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Fixing in the PSL....was always going to happen wasn't it?

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Yes the details are yet to come out regarding Sharjeel Khan and Khalid Latif but Najam Sethi's words seems quite damning.

I guess it was naive to think that the PSL would be free of controversy and free of fixing allegations and that Pakistani cricketers could be honest.
 
Yes the details are yet to come out regarding Sharjeel Khan and Khalid Latif but Najam Sethi's words seems quite damning.

I guess it was naive to think that the PSL would be free of controversy and free of fixing allegations and that Pakistani cricketers could be honest.

Yes but I am happy that the reaction from PCB has been swift and decisive.
 
These lucrative T20 leagues seem to attract corruption like bees to a honeypot.

Its not surprising given the UAE has a history with matchfixing as 90s fans will recall.
 
It was going to happen, because we are playing in the fixing hub, UAE.

But credit to PCB for taking swift action. Instead of keeping hush and shush, they have done the right thing by doing a provisional suspension.

Remember, when Nasir Jamshed was involved in something similar in the BPL, his acts caused a bad reputation for the league.

PCB did the right thing here by making examples, even if its for mingling with suspected people
 
These lucrative T20 leagues seem to attract corruption like bees to a honeypot.

Its not surprising given the UAE has a history with matchfixing as 90s fans will recall.

they will always attract corruption, but what these leagues require is swift action by the management.

I'm fed up how that stupid Bangladesh Premier League hushes up the players involvement each year. Nasir Jamshed, Imad Waseem's name have come up their and yet they do nothing for the sake of their own reputation.
 
The real question is however, will the PSL lose its charm or continue to be a successful league? I'm not sure how many of us want to watch a league with a bad name on it.
 
BPL has a terrible reputation. Hopefully the PSL won't go the same way.
 
The real question is however, will the PSL lose its charm or continue to be a successful league? I'm not sure how many of us want to watch a league with a bad name on it.

People won't bother too much about it. They will always tune in. But the problem comes in the power structure.
Such scandals weaken the position of the management and the professional rivals will try to take advantage to acquire power in the lucrative league. All this power structure eventually weaken the league from within and hurt the finances.
 
If guilty, PCB has to come down hard on them.

Their response was good (minus reporting it in the middle of a game!) so it's clear they're being vigilent and won't let things carry out under their noses.

It shows they're being responsible as a board and that's a positive step.
 
The anti corruption rules have become very strict, any approach by a bookie must be reported.

There would always have been such an issue with some players not reporting approaches but actual fixing is still very rare and Pak players know better than anyone there is little point in such activities.
 
The anti corruption rules have become very strict, any approach by a bookie must be reported.

There would always have been such an issue with some players not reporting approaches but actual fixing is still very rare and Pak players know better than anyone there is little point in such activities.

LMAO, what an excuse! So its not a crime if no one got hurt is that your reasoning?
 
Always had a feeling it would happen but presumed it would be from a random old domestic player who wanted a final pay day .


Didn't think a cricketer like sharjeel who is playing all formats, had a county deal signed and would soon be going to get league offers


If true it's Amir all over again
 
There's not much noise about this outside Pakistan
I only heard about it during the commentary

Khan and Latif are guilty of fuelling gambling interest in the Psl, surely they made enough money last year
 
LMAO, what an excuse! So its not a crime if no one got hurt is that your reasoning?

It wasn't an excuse, it was to say this WOULD happen. Approaches have taken place across leagues around the world. If you expect bookies not to turn up, then you're not in tune with reality. If approached players must report or face the penalty.
 
OK.

But when has it happened in the first place? Why calling it fixing when the investigation isn't even done and nothing's found yet?
 
I guess it was naive to think that the PSL would be free of controversy and free of fixing allegations and that Pakistani cricketers could be honest.
What did anyone expect when these T20 leagues are simply the cricket equivalent of the Harlem Globetrotters, ie going from league to league, club to club, playing in matches where, certainly for most of them, winning or losing is meaningless since the vast majority of their earnings are based on contracts and appearance money.

For example, what meaning is there, for say, for the likes of Gayle playing for a team against a team containing, say, Sangakkara and then a few weeks later, on a different continent, playing in a different league for a different club, but with Sangakkara as his team mate,... and then a few weeks later, different continent, different league, different clubs .... and repeating this over and over again 5 or 6 times a year, only to start the cycle again the following year.

If winning or losing matches in these T20 leagues becomes meaningless for the "Superstars", then some of it is bound to rub off on the lower level players, and since not all of them can make the really big bucks, they become ripe pickings for bookies and blackmailers.
 
BPL has a terrible reputation. Hopefully the PSL won't go the same way.

That laregly depends on how they deal with them. Didn't BPL let off a few players from other nations with a warning for misconduct? Also doesn't help they had their icon Ashraful involved in the act.
 
With leagues like this corruption is inevitable..so strict measures is the way to go. Love the attitude shown by Sethi. This is the way to handle such practice. no matter how big name is involved just take them out.
 
It wasn't an excuse, it was to say this WOULD happen. Approaches have taken place across leagues around the world. If you expect bookies not to turn up, then you're not in tune with reality. If approached players must report or face the penalty.

Your language in the previous post implied otherwise. Anyway clarified.
 
Why does it have to be Sharjeel? He was on his way to super stardom and can't, just can't believe he would do something daft.

Hereis hoping that Sharjeel has a full explainable, clean story.
 
Why does it have to be Sharjeel? He was on his way to super stardom and can't, just can't believe he would do something daft.

Hereis hoping that Sharjeel has a full explainable, clean story.

Really a big dumbass if he has done it with his recent performances he would have many contract around the world,but just one match played so far so i don't think so maybe they were planning
 
It's not even a surprise to me. The game itself is designed for illegal activities - besides the people who are pouring money are not doing to promote the game to be honest. I actually don't agree with punishing players for corruption in T20 leagues - these are unlucky rather than corrupt, many others are lucky. T20 is made to make money - make it whichever way you can.

Not every "type" of movie is subject to censor board, not every "movie" star are considered for Academy Awards. Cricket also has found it's "special" version of "short film" - when I watch it, I do know that it's for cheap entertainment - fake or fixed, who cares.

I would have fined them big amount to hurt their pocket, but won't have banned - simple reason is that I don't believe those people pouring money in a game that they hardly understand or bother for, would allow it to run on a fair contest. If we start to scrutinize T20 leagues, then we'll start to lose many other players - Japanese Generals allowed "comfort" zone/day for their soldiers, so that they remain committed in battle field. Players should be allowed forr their "Comfort" zones, aka T20 Leagues. As long as they are perfect in International or FC level, I am OK with that.

It's like rag day in dorms - doesn't matter if you are the valedictorian or drop out........


PS: No offense please, I am just enjoying my day. PSL was supposed to unearth some talent - here it might have cost one the best PAK got in last 10-12 years - it's just the start ................ T20 Zindabad.
 
BPL has a terrible reputation. Hopefully the PSL won't go the same way.

Saj Bhai, going by all the news, i think the BPL bad apples are coming back to bite us. Some really interesting findings
 
And people here used to mock the IPL because of the match-fixing.

This is well deserved karma. Pakistani supporters have been rightfully embarrassed.
 
And people here used to mock the IPL because of the match-fixing.

This is well deserved karma. Pakistani supporters have been rightfully embarrassed.

The difference here is that match-fixing plan has been stopped or minimized in advance due to precautionary measures which is a good positive.
 
And people here used to mock the IPL because of the match-fixing.

This is well deserved karma. Pakistani supporters have been rightfully embarrassed.

Well your obsession with india is just beyond imagination .Wait for the investigation to over before chest pumping
 
And people here used to mock the IPL because of the match-fixing.

This is well deserved karma. Pakistani supporters have been rightfully embarrassed.

naa. Here the match fixing was stop in well advance.
 
I see no difference. Corruption exists in both leagues and both boards dealt with it. Indian authorities suspended the most successful franchise.

However, it's important that we make excuses and provide justifications now because back then, we lacked the vision to realize that these things will happen in the PSL as well and there is was no need of taking the moral high ground.
 
Honesty is too much to ask from our cricketers and usually the guys are those who are representing or have represented pakistan. Aparently playing for pakistan cricket team and earning more than enough money arent good enough for them.
 
Wait.

Aren't we getting ahead of ourselves here. Is there any evidence of actual fixing taking place or even an investigation into a potential match or an event that was possibly fixed? I must be missing something here because I've not heard or read anywhere that a particular game was fixed.
 
Wait.

Aren't we getting ahead of ourselves here. Is there any evidence of actual fixing taking place or even an investigation into a potential match or an event that was possibly fixed? I must be missing something here because I've not heard or read anywhere that a particular game was fixed.

It's been less than 24 hours, things will be clear in the next few days. There are rumors that Sharjeel took a lot of money for two dot balls, let's see if it has any legs.

Obviously, there is too much noise for it to be nothing but hot air. Something must have happened, whatever it is.
 
Have to say. Having dealt with Pakistani cricketers over the years, they are very money orientated people. For some money matters more than anything.
 
Honesty is too much to ask from our cricketers and usually the guys are those who are representing or have represented pakistan. Aparently playing for pakistan cricket team and earning more than enough money arent good enough for them.

Greed.

The more they earn, the greedier they become.

No morals either.
 
Have to say. Having dealt with Pakistani cricketers over the years, they are very money orientated people. For some money matters more than anything.

How has your dealing been with sngpl and faisalabad gang. Misbah, azhar and co?
 
How has your dealing been with sngpl and faisalabad gang. Misbah, azhar and co?
Not willing to comment on individuals.

Will say though that nearly all of them are money-mad even the ones who you think wouldn't be like that.
 
Not willing to comment on individuals.

Will say though that nearly all of them are money-mad even the ones who you think wouldn't be like that.

Understandable since these guy in most cases dont possess other skills and their careers end in 30s, living on that money till death must be hard.
 
Never could understand, why cricketers do fixing..

May be i am wrong but i dont think it is money.. How much money could he earn by fixing ?
He had 70000 pound deal with english county.. Another good psl and he would have been playing all the leagues in the world Plus being a central contracted player and match fee combined, he was making tons of money..

I think they may do it for the thrill of it, the thrill of doing something illegal and getting away with it
 
Understandable since these guy in most cases dont possess other skills and their careers end in 30s, living on that money till death must be hard.

you have to be kidding. they can go on to become coaches,jobs in PCB, cricket analysts,commentary...much more
 
What's incredible is that Khalid Latif would have been attractive to some T20 teams in the BPL and would have made decent money there and also in some overseas club cricket, as well as international cricket.

As for Sharjeel, he had his best years ahead of him. International cricket, T20 leagues around the world, county cricket and others.
 
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