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will they box or fight in ufc ring?
will they box or fight in ufc ring?
It's going to be a table tennis match
I think they will bring out the ludo board and play a round of ludo instead of doing judo karate LMAO
I wouldn't be surprised if that happened
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[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] I get what you were saying before, the white dude in the video echo's your views. It's a big no win situation for Floyd regardless unless he absolutely destroys him; otherwise Conor is the one to gain even in a defeat. There is a lot more pressure on Floyd in that regard because everything is on the line literally
I would say the pressure on Floyd is to totally dominate the fight. As the commentator says, one clean hit by McGregor would be an embarrassment to Floyd. I think he will get hit but not cleanly, most likely when they get inside and on the body or grazing the chin with an uppercut possibly.
What I would love to see happen is McGregor getting frustrated (which he will) and doing something which gets him disqualified. I wouldn't be surprised if this goes down as Im sure there is some sort betting behind the scences, maybe not an all out disqualification but losing some points for excessive holding/pushing/low blows or elbows etc. If he does get disqualifed it will make him even more notorious, bring boxing fans to UFC and stop this madness for the future preserving boxing for the art it is.
Paulie Malignagi has sparred with Conor and has said there is a method to his madness whilst he has respectable power compared to other guys he has sparred especially in his left, he says there is ability there and game plan; stylistically it will not be anything like what Floyd has come across before and there is a chance that Conor may have his moments in the fight, they realise how good Floyd is but will look to cash in on the moments which come there way. I can see him trying to make it as dirty as possible and use the maidana blue print to annoy floyd. Doubt Conor will try anything silly because there are clauses in the contracts to severely penalise Conor if he bends the rules beyond what you can get away with normally in the ring, his camp have even hired Joe Cortez to officiate Conor's sparring sessions! so they are serious
I got a feeling Floyd will win but Conor will do better then what we expect. There will be pressure on Floyd to totally dominate but I don't see him forcing a stoppage but what if the old Floyd comes out and goes all guns blazing from round 1 itself ! what if the PRETTY BOY returnswe don't want to see Money Mayweather
Pauli obviously has a great boxing brain but he is also part of Showtime. Sure he tries to say what he truly feels but cannot fully dismiss McGregor for promotional reasons.
Im not sure if Pretty Boy will return, I think he will be more focused than ever as we discussed the pressure is all on him this time. Boxing is second nature to Floyd, he could beat McGregor with one eye just by instinct. But yes how McGregor fights will be interesting esp his transition from MMA to Boxing. Other MMA fighters have a stance more similar to boxers but McGregor has a very wide position with his hands, it's also very high which is excellent for MMA but will have to make massive adjustments to even stand properly in the ring. Will he be able to become more compact in his guard and will be able to use the 10lb gloves both offensively and defensibly? He has a lot of power as shown in MMA but can he have the same impact with larger gloves where the power is more spread out? Let's assume he connects perfectly on Floyd's chin? With MMA gloves he would knock him down if not knock him clean out but with those gloves and less power will he also knock him down? Let's remember Floyd doesn't have a weak chin, Maidana hit a few times and so have boxers in the past. One of his great performances came against Arturo Gatti , who used to hit and hit very hard. A lot of pundits truly believed Gatti would win by a KO but Floyd showed his class. How do you feel McGregor could adapt here?
Don't think Paulie would chat it because his reputation would be on the line, he hasn't overly praised Conor but basically has said that he's better then what he expected. What happened was, Paulie trashed Conor and his chances against Floyd like majority of pundits; then Conor's camp reached out to Paulie for potential sparring, basically Conor got worked up and wanted to have a knock more then anythingafter they had their little battle to settle their differences Conor's camp offered Paulie to remain in their camp and he accepted the deal to help them out.
True plus its the pressure of getting 50-0 and breaking Marciano's record so it will most likely be a safety first approach from Floyd, plus the guy has been inactive for 2 years and is no spring chicken at 40+ years of age so that ought to be a big factor when you're returning to the squared circle.
Those are some big questions and I can't really justifiably answer them with regards to Conor's hypothetical boxing pedigree but we can discuss how he could potentially utilise his MMA strengths in the boxing world. The gloves are a big issue, if it was 6oz it would make the fight very very interesting but that's not the case; the glove size is a big issue because it tests your endurance levels as well beyond whether or not the power would be there. The wide guard is efficient in MMA for him because he can rely on his reflex's to block punches and kicks across a wide array of angles up above and below, the stance is also not as close say in Boxing where you're a lot closer within punching distance so maybe it's something he can use to his advantage.
Beyond Conor's MMA influences it's also important to point out that his first taste of combat sport was Boxing, he went to an amateur club in Ireland who laid the groundwork for his MMA success and his coach pointed out how he left for the MMA stuff just when he was starting to get really good but learning striking there became one of his fundamental strengths in the Octogan, in fact in the UFC the only way to beat Conor is to take him down to the ground otherwise you are screwed; feinting and setting up that crushing left is a product of Boxing when it comes to Conor's skill set and not mixed martial arts.
However beyond that there's not much else to say because when it comes to angles, range and distance he's a lot more adjusted to the Octagon. The key will be to cut off Floyd and use his wide guard (which should be a little closer on fight night) to threaten floyd with a long lead jab and his signature left, if he manages to back floyd into a corner where he loves to use his shoulder roll against orthodox fighters to parry a jab Conor can switch to southpaw to create a pocket were he can throw his left and even if he doesn't get all of it Floyd could open up a bit for a right hook he doesn't see coming.
The other thing would be to make best use of his superior physical attributes, for a man his size he unsually has very long arms and he makes best use of that reach in the Octogan by throwing it long so he"ll need to keep out of Floyd's punching range to exploit his reach advantage. Mcgregor also tends to stand very square but relies a lot on his guard and head movement when he's applying pressure, so I'd aim to Jab floyd's head using the extra inches of reach to feel him out and then parry to the body to bring Floyd's hands down.
If Conor kept at boxing I actually think he could be a world champion by now, anyhow whatever I said is all hypothetical but that's how I'd envision him adapting making small tweaks because at this stage in his career you can't teach an old dog new tricks with regards to their style so it would be all about utilizing what he has. I've read a lot on the build thus far and the criticism with the spectacle itself but I do agree with those who point fingers at us and say that boxing needs to get it's house in order in itself as it is, think about it we're in disarray; it's a business which has been consumed by politics, the best no longer fight the best, there are alphabet titles every where and you can be champ by beating cans.
And I may not agree with the occasion in itself but I respect Conor's self belief, hard work and refusal to give up; also respect that he's stepping in the ring. The man like 5 years ago was just about getting by on state welfare and has done well for himself now, he has had to endure hard times so it's always nice to see a working class hero triumph in this cruel world
Thanks, I dont really know much about Conner or even UFC as I dont watch it much. Not because I have anything against MMA but just never got into it even though I have been to watch many Cage Fights here in the UK. If he really had the ability to become a World Champion in boxing at welterweight or any divisions near then he must have some skill. From watching his UFC fights, he does have good striking ability and power but wasn't really impressed with any follow up shots/combinations but that's probably my boxing head judging him unfairly. And of course I respect what he has achieved in his life. Btw saw a social media post earlier where he was wearing an NBA shirt, apparently the guy who went with his Floyds mrs. lol
The pressure is on Floyd and it's huge but this is he easiest fight since he was in school, which will take off a lot off pressure after round 1. It maybe hard to predict McGregors tactics as he must adapt quickly but Floyds tactics are pretty much straight forward imo, just box. Sure he is 40+ with being inactive for a couple of years but Floyd has remained in good shape throughout regularly working in his Vegas gym. He might claim he isn't the same fighter he was 2 years ago but he could beat anyone in his division right now.
Its nice Pauli is helping McGregor but I have a feeling Pauli will be on the phone to Floyd both laughing about what he witnessed , he is showtime after all.
I agree boxing is in decline in so many ways, it's way too easy to win a belt and there are too many in each division. But we have seen some great fights recently, Pacman V Horn, Kovalev V Ward and now we look forward to Canelo V GGG.
Here's a controversial question, in your opinion which is the superiour sport Boxing of MMA?yweather
Btw @mods can we please get a Floyd avatar? The legend coach comes up when I type mayweather lol.
greatest sporting event of this (current) century.....
last time in that 300 million dollar match mayweather won quite easily defeating that probably japanese guy but McGregor is a beast...... He will knock him over...
remember mayweather has never lost... he has won 49 out of 49..
I don't think you're judging him unfairly to be honest those are just facts, although in the Octogan; you don't really need follow up shots and combinations; you just need to rely mostly on your IQ, power punching technique and timing because once you knock a guy down you finish him off with hammer fists on the floor or apply a submission; that's actually a really good point because Conor's combination punching ought to be weak but am not sure what level he is at or what raw talent he posses in that regard at this stage. So it's safe to say he'd be looking for that one big shot every time after using his jab more often then, won't expect to see more then 2 punch combos from him.
Yeah Floyd repeatedly just says he isn't the same and all etc mainly because he is a business man trying to sell the event but I do believe it's a factor I don't care if he is floyd mayweather when you're not active in the ring it does take it's toll on you because you're not in fighting shape, gym sessions are just not enough. But he's a very disciplined fighter and even when he's not in the ring he eats right and keeps in shape which is a bonus, plus he's a reactive fighter but it's just nature like we all age and die, he ought to lose a step but given his high IQ it may not matter.
lmao I wouldn't be surprised but Paulie is old school, what ever happens in sparring doesn't leave the boxing gym
Boxing for me is the embodiment of combat sport and most superior, in pure self defence it's the greatest, from an entertainment point of view it's the greatest to watch given the nature of the combat which is specialised and it's a metaphor for life itselfI love MMA and wing chun as well but Boxing is my first love
Also, I'd always back the pure boxer in the Octogan then an MMA fighter in the Boxing ring. About a year or two ago you may have heard the name but a female Olympian called Ronda Rousey took female combat sport to the main stream, she finished off her opponents with the arm bar within seconds in the first round and was dubbed the female Tyson of MMA; she main-evented and drew record crowds and shattered PPV records for the UFC, she was deemed invincible and unbeatable, a fighter in a league of her own and a level above the rest and it would be decades before someone would beat her; but then HOLLY HOLMS happened, the greatest female boxer of all time would make Ronda Rousey look like a rank amateur in the Octogan enroute to defeating her by knock out in the second round and she did it on pure boxing, footwork, counter punching, speed and lateral movement; she won her last fight two and would have become the first woman to become a 2 weight world champion amongst the women but was screwed by the judges.
"He's a lot younger. When you look at myself and Conor McGregor on paper, he's taller, has a longer reach, he's a bigger man from top to bottom. He's a lot younger, so youth is on his side," Mayweather told ESPN.
"And I've been off a couple of years. And I'm in my 40s. So, if you look at everything on paper, it leans toward Conor McGregor."
Mayweather added: "I'm older. I'm not the same fighter I was two years ago. I'm not the same fighter I was five years ago. I lost a step.
"A fighter like Andre Berto isn't even supposed to go the distance with Floyd Mayweather, but remember, I was 38. It's obvious I'm slipping a little bit to even let a fighter like that go the distance with me.
"I'm not what I used to be. I used to have a 90 per cent knockout ratio. It's obvious I slipped somewhere. Something has taken a toll on my career."
He continued: "I didn't say I couldn't fight. I just said I'm not the same Floyd Mayweather I once was."
Expected result... Kudos to Conor for holding on that long
Conor has won just by stepping in a ring and lasting ten rounds making Mayweather go on defensive when he should've been attacking. Needless to say, a joker like Mayweather would never step in the octagon.
McGregor ain't no boxer but he definitely gave that clown Floyd the hardest fight of his life who resorted to using the same stupid *** tactic he did to beat a way past the prime Pacquiao.
Have mad respect for the notorious.
The first two rounds he didn't do anything because he wanted Macreggor to wear himself out. And Connor fell for it, then was too exhausted to do anything in the following rounds.
Conor has won just by stepping in a ring and lasting ten rounds making Mayweather go on defensive when he should've been attacking. Needless to say, a joker like Mayweather would never step in the octagon.
McGregor ain't no boxer but he definitely gave that clown Floyd the hardest fight of his life who resorted to using the same stupid *** tactic he did to beat a way past the prime Pacquiao.
Have mad respect for the notorious.
Yes, that's the tactic I was talking about.
Yes it is a valid tactic.
Its boxing not a street fight.
Btw its a valid tactic in UFC too. If you recall the Diaz fight, Connor was exhausted after the first few rounds. His fighting style is very explosive which is exciting but it also means he gets tired quick.
Yes, that's the tactic I was talking about.
Might be a valid tactic but it reeks of cowardice.
Lol.
You think this was Mayweather's toughest fight?
He dominated atleast 6 out of 10 rounds.
The first two rounds he didn't do anything because he wanted Macreggor to wear himself out. And Connor fell for it, then was too exhausted to do anything in the following rounds.
Its not cowardice, its strategy.
Boxing is 12 rounds, not 5. You have to create your opportunities and play the long game.
Its like test matches compared to t20s.
Mayweather (Dravid) was the test match player and Mcgreggor (Afridi) the t20 player.
And they were playing with test match rules.
Lol at the boxing experts claiming that Mayweather would have won in the third round but instead decided to chillax and take the fight to the tenth.
Give credit where credit is due, McGregor was never going to win the fight but he was the better boxer in the first three rounds, call it Floyd's strategy or what not. McGregor held his own till the eighth and really lost it in the ninth. Tenth was just a formality.
I think Floyd was going to knock out Mcgregor had the fight not been stopped. He was still hitting with decent power while conor had nothing. I agree with Conor felt the fight was called too early, could have let Conor hit the floor first. But when it was stopped the fight was already over, would have been a matter of time before he secured the knock out.
Would love to see Floyd take on Amir Khan and Joshua, actual boxers.