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"For me, Babar Azam is the Virat Kohli of Pakistan's line-up" : Michael Clarke

Not a great day for Bobby.

He is no Kohli but he is best Pakistan has had after Imran Farhat.
 
Can we talk about this guy's pathetic dismissal.


The team is reeling at 62/3. Our top order is back in the hut, you have an out-of-form captain at the other end. You are supposedly best batsman in the side. A young bowler comes into the attack for the first time. Bowls a nothing bowl 2 feet outside the off stump. You flail at it with your bat without even moving your feet an inch and edge it to the keeper. A lot is made of Babar's talent and technique, but he got out like a tailender today with zero match sense.


But but but I'm Pakistan's Kohli
 
Maybe it's just because he's never performed against India and I don't watch other Pakistan matches but I don't buy the Babar hype yet.
 
Hes a good player when there's no pressure.
Ive always maintained hes a softie.
 
Syed1 said:
But but but I'm Pakistan's Kohli
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He never claimed that. It's other people who've been comparing him with Kohli not him.
In my opinion, he is a very good batsman, not comparable to Kohli but definitely amongst the top 10 batsmen playing presently.
 
It just shows how much pressure he was under. He didn't play at deliveries he'd normally spank to the boundary, and in the end, played a nothing shot because he wasn't thinking clearly.
 
Syed1 said:
Can we talk about this guy's pathetic dismissal.


The team is reeling at 62/3. Our top order is back in the hut, you have an out-of-form captain at the other end. You are supposedly best batsman in the side. A young bowler comes into the attack for the first time. Bowls a nothing bowl 2 feet outside the off stump. You flail at it with your bat without even moving your feet an inch and edge it to the keeper. A lot is made of Babar's talent and technique, but he got out like a tailender today with zero match sense.


But but but I'm Pakistan's Kohli
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Remarkable catch from hope though
That was going straight to Gayle
 
Syed1 said:
Can we talk about this guy's pathetic dismissal.


The team is reeling at 62/3. Our top order is back in the hut, you have an out-of-form captain at the other end. You are supposedly best batsman in the side. A young bowler comes into the attack for the first time. Bowls a nothing bowl 2 feet outside the off stump. You flail at it with your bat without even moving your feet an inch and edge it to the keeper. A lot is made of Babar's talent and technique, but he got out like a tailender today with zero match sense.


But but but I'm Pakistan's Kohli
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This guy has done nothing when it matters.
 
Appalling dismissal today. He should be ashamed of himself for that shot. Your team needs you, theoretically our most reliable batsman but he showed his family genetics with that one.

Nobody in this team has an ounce of courage.
 
Markhor said:
Appalling dismissal today. He should be ashamed of himself for that shot. Your team needs you, theoretically our most reliable batsman but he showed his family genetics with that one.

Nobody in this team has an ounce of courage.
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harsh but fair. ppl will start talking about his age and what did the others do, BUT this is exactly what separates the elite sportsmen from the also rans. You have to step up when your team really needs you.

Same reason malik and hafeez, none of their 50's will win us a game this tournament. Their combined 30 years of cricket is supposed to get out of jail 9 out of 10 times. But they cant, because they were never match-winners.
 
chacha kashmiri said:
He was definitely under used as a bowler too , same with Steve smith
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Bad back was the reason he didn't bowl much in the later part of his career.
Had the potential to be a very serviceable all rounder in LOI's with his bowling at the same level or arguably even better than what Maxwell offers.
 
Wait for a few more games before lynching Babar Azam.

He is no Kohli or Tendulkar and never will be but he is young, capable batsman and the best Pakistan has produced in decades.
 
People need to realise that this was only our first game. I understand kohli won India a lot of matches when he was the same age but he had support. Look at how much kohli averaged in the 2011 WC. If that was babar now, pak have literally no chance of making the semis. This shows how much we are relying on a 24 year old kid.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
People need to realise that this was only our first game. I understand kohli won India a lot of matches when he was the same age but he had support. Look at how much kohli averaged in the 2011 WC. If that was babar now, pak have literally no chance of making the semis. This shows how much we are relying on a 24 year old kid.
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He is a chicken hearted player he will never score runs when it matters
He is not even comparable to s.hope
 
Ronaldo7 said:
People need to realise that this was only our first game. I understand kohli won India a lot of matches when he was the same age but he had support. Look at how much kohli averaged in the 2011 WC. If that was babar now, pak have literally no chance of making the semis. This shows how much we are relying on a 24 year old kid.
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Kohli scored some important runs in final after 2wkts
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Bad back was the reason he didn't bowl much in the later part of his career.
Had the potential to be a very serviceable all rounder in LOI's with his bowling at the same level or arguably even better than what Maxwell offers.
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It’s still a shame how Andrew symonds career ended
Much more talent than lehman etc
 
Syed1 said:
Can we talk about this guy's pathetic dismissal.


The team is reeling at 62/3. Our top order is back in the hut, you have an out-of-form captain at the other end. You are supposedly best batsman in the side. A young bowler comes into the attack for the first time. Bowls a nothing bowl 2 feet outside the off stump. You flail at it with your bat without even moving your feet an inch and edge it to the keeper. A lot is made of Babar's talent and technique, but he got out like a tailender today with zero match sense.


But but but I'm Pakistan's Kohli
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He is mentally not as strong as he should be atm and that was probably the "strike rate brigade" getting to him
 
Syed1 said:
Can we talk about this guy's pathetic dismissal.


The team is reeling at 62/3. Our top order is back in the hut, you have an out-of-form captain at the other end. You are supposedly best batsman in the side. A young bowler comes into the attack for the first time. Bowls a nothing bowl 2 feet outside the off stump. You flail at it with your bat without even moving your feet an inch and edge it to the keeper. A lot is made of Babar's talent and technique, but he got out like a tailender today with zero match sense.


But but but I'm Pakistan's Kohli
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That was a good set-up by Thomas. The deliveries earlier in the spell did the actual damage.
 
He never compared himself to kohli, nor he should be at this current stage... Youngsters need development and he is developing, Pakistani fans wanting him to perform like kohli this early are forgetting that kohli was not made from match 1 he had a struggle at intl level, he started showing glimpses of the kohli we now know way after his first world cup in 2011

He scored a soft hundred against bangladesh in the group stage of the WC11 and then had an off season at the world cup before the final match where he played a good hand. He showed glimpses in 2012, but the real change came from 2014 (wt20 man of the series), and then finally 2016 the year he became the King kohli, and that was 8 years after his debut. He was mediocre in tests as well, and he developed during the years.

People are expecting way too much from a youngster at this stage of his career, He will fail he will surely fail, but we have to stick with him, as these situations make big match players. International cricket is all about handling pressure and learning how to do so.

Hold your nerves, the guy does not have legends around him, he has out of form batsmen and batsmen with poor technique around, or softies and coward batsmen like haris sohail, you simply cannot put the blame on one guy who is your best batsman since Inzi or yousuf.

He is not the kohli of Pakistan, he is babar azam and let him be himself, as I mentioned kohli had his struggle and worked extremely hard to come to the point he is right now, he didn’t win india matches straight away (this is coming from a guy who has followed kohli since his u19 times) he always had the potential. Same is the case for babar, what we need is patience, patience and patience.
 
Attiq_Lone said:
He never compared himself to kohli, nor he should be at this current stage... Youngsters need development and he is developing, Pakistani fans wanting him to perform like kohli this early are forgetting that kohli was not made from match 1 he had a struggle at intl level, he started showing glimpses of the kohli we now know way after his first world cup in 2011

He scored a soft hundred against bangladesh in the group stage of the WC11 and then had an off season at the world cup before the final match where he played a good hand. He showed glimpses in 2012, but the real change came from 2014 (wt20 man of the series), and then finally 2016 the year he became the King kohli, and that was 8 years after his debut. He was mediocre in tests as well, and he developed during the years.

People are expecting way too much from a youngster at this stage of his career, He will fail he will surely fail, but we have to stick with him, as these situations make big match players. International cricket is all about handling pressure and learning how to do so.

Hold your nerves, the guy does not have legends around him, he has out of form batsmen and batsmen with poor technique around, or softies and coward batsmen like haris sohail, you simply cannot put the blame on one guy who is your best batsman since Inzi or yousuf.

He is not the kohli of Pakistan, he is babar azam and let him be himself, as I mentioned kohli had his struggle and worked extremely hard to come to the point he is right now, he didn’t win india matches straight away (this is coming from a guy who has followed kohli since his u19 times) he always had the potential. Same is the case for babar, what we need is patience, patience and patience.
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Exactly . people Comparing Him to kohli Are only those who followed kohli after 2014-15.
Have you seen kohli form after 2012.
Just Search Kholi Bad form on YouTube i guess you will find videos as indians Really love Uploading kohli videos.
He Was Bad and so bad You Wont Even Believe it.
But Thats What make Kohli Different He Had a problem with his bottom hand His bottom hand is very strong And he picks length early But It was also the reason he wasn't performing .
Babar has Just started And His playing all formats kohli started playing tests after 4 year of his odi Debut.and he started playing t20 after 3 years of His odi debut.
Babar Is already phenomenal in white ball cricket and elevated his game in red ball recently.
This is his first WC.Dont Expect him To Outclass or Score 500 In WC wait for The Next WC Then You Can Compare Him to Kohli if He Is performing
Babar technique has Changed Over the Years and he is Evolving .
 
Babar Azam has the best body language even when things are not going Pak way. His confidence and stance at crease releases the pressure on the other end as well. Love watching him drive though!
 
Good knock today.
Should have gone on. What he tried to do was hafeezs job.
This guy just needs to stay in and play run a ball until the slog overs and let the others loose around him.
He shouldnt worry about what strike rate brigade think, and I am not happy at all about his last 2 dismissals. Needs to cut this out
 
Just waiting for a big innings from him now. A big 100 against SL would do him a world of good.
 
Abdullah said:
Good knock today.
Should have gone on. What he tried to do was hafeezs job.
This guy just needs to stay in and play run a ball until the slog overs and let the others loose around him.
He shouldnt worry about what strike rate brigade think, and I am not happy at all about his last 2 dismissals. Needs to cut this out
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People call him selfish if he play run a ball
 
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freelance_cricketer said:
As is proven by far only Kohli.and Joe are ahead of Babar The Bobby Azam at chasing

A genius is born

Future GOAT Pakistani Odi Batsman

Future leaders of Asian bloc batsmanship
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Lmao they actually have a graphic of fab 4 that’s quite pathetic lmao that would be more like a discussion between cricket followers not in actual stats. It looks so funny and stupid because In reality their is no fab 4 their is only one outstanding and thats Virat Kohli the averages don’t even come close of the other 4 batsman but babar can soon catch up if he play 3-4 match winning innings with hundreds
 
Most people on this thread are pathetic. Saying a 24 year old (who is doing better than everyone else did at this age) isn't fit to tie Kohli's laces, or is a mental midget, or Softy. Pakistanis never give a batsman a chance. As soon as he made a 50 against England all these Babar haters went quite.

In the world cup Kohli and Root didn't do well under pressure. Williamson and Smith did well under pressure but were limited by their abilities in LOI cricket. Babar was the stand out, he scored runs and won a very tough chase.
 
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jeeteshssaxena said:
No he didn't, his team failed to reach knockouts and he failed badly in important matched.
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We are talking about individual performances. India reached the semis because of Rohit Sharma, not Kohli.
Babar outscored Kohli, won against NZ, SA and England. Babar performed in all of Pakistan's must win games, Kohli only had one must win game and failed badly.

I'm not saying Babar is better than Kohli, there's still 4 years till we can say that, just saying Babar was better in the world cup and the comparison in LOI is a lot closer than everyone thinks. Babar has already surapssed Root, Williamson and SMith in LOI, only Sharma and Kohli are left.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
No he didn't, his team failed to reach knockouts and he failed badly in important matched.
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When it mattered Bobby produced a stunning knock vs Kiwis.

What did Kohli do in semis?

There is no shame in admitting that Bobby is better at ODI world cups and hence a big occasion player which Kohli isn't.
 
Usman Chadda said:
I see. That match against NZ was sure important. Failing badly would have meant him failing there too little one.
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Danyaalr01 said:
We are talking about individual performances. India reached the semis because of Rohit Sharma, not Kohli.
Babar outscored Kohli, won against NZ, SA and England. Babar performed in all of Pakistan's must win games, Kohli only had one must win game and failed badly.

I'm not saying Babar is better than Kohli, there's still 4 years till we can say that, just saying Babar was better in the world cup and the comparison in LOI is a lot closer than everyone thinks. Babar has already surapssed Root, Williamson and SMith in LOI, only Sharma and Kohli are left.
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freelance_cricketer said:
When it mattered Bobby produced a stunning knock vs Kiwis.

What did Kohli do in semis?

There is no shame in admitting that Bobby is better at ODI world cups and hence a big occasion player which Kohli isn't.
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Kohli scored 5 consecutive fifties,but yes he choked in semi final.
Most of his half centuries weren't converted to 100 as rohit sharma was dominating and most of the time kohli entered the field when the need was to accelerate.
Unlike babar, kohli wasn't the only world class batsman in his team.

Secondly babar's knock vs newzealand was great but that game wasn't a knockout, kohli has played many such knocks in league stage. Its nit kohlis fault that his team never has any difficulties in mauling every other team in group stages.

Babar is world class but just like kohli, he is yet to perform in knockouts, but yeah he has 3 more worldcups to do that.
 
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freelance_cricketer said:
When it mattered Bobby produced a stunning knock vs Kiwis.

What did Kohli do in semis?

There is no shame in admitting that Bobby is better at ODI world cups and hence a big occasion player which Kohli isn't.
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There were many other matches where winning mattered, losing games like those was the reason pakistan had to rely on other teams to get them through to the knockouts.

It was a good knock in a league match, the pressure was nowhere close to a knockout match.
 
Problem with this PP
Is some people will straight up say babar is better then kohli when infact no one Is Close to kohli There is a Huge Gap Between kohli And other Players
And then there are people who Will Call him just a good player when infact he is only behind Kohli In Limited overs Cricket Period
 
I've seen both bat and let me clarify as an Indian - Babar Azam is actually a better batsman in pressure situations than Virat Kohli. If you look at matches where early wickets fall, I will definitely be more confident in Babar than Kohli. I'm sure even the statistics can confirm this. Babar also has a crucial innings of 40 odd against India in CT final whereas Kohli doesn't even have an average of 10 in important matches.
 
The reason Babar can take pressure is because of the batting line up he plays in. More often than not the whole team relys on him. In the beginning of his career he didn't take it extremely well, but now he has gone through it so much and hardened him.

Kohli is a great player and at the moment is better than Babar and is the only batsman in LOI standing in Babars way, but he doesn't take the pressure as well as Babar because he rarely finds himself in a horrible position in bilateral series due to Rohit Sharma being there with him.
 
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