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Contradicting Trump’s threats of “fire and fury” on North Korea, Bannon said: “There’s no military solution [to North Korea’s nuclear threats], forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that 10 million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.”
 
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i think most people with half a brain know that all this sabre rattling from Kim Jong Un and Trump is just responding in kind. the NK regime know if they nuke Seoul or Tokyo then thats it for their regime and they will be wiped off the map and considering these guys dont believe in any afterlife they have no desire to relinquish earthly power.

And Trump is just pandering to his support base by playing the aggressive chest thumper who will stick it to America's enemies. most people in govt the "deep state"
wouldnt let Trump ever actually use nukes.

NKs nukes make an invasion basically impossible.

Its just good headlines for newspapers and news channels.

nothing will happen its just a waiting game for the NK regime to collapse.
 
Kim Jong Un is basically a spoiled little brat who has a country to play with.

The danger is Trump doing something stupid, like taking out the launchpad as the North Koreans are preparing another missile test in order to "send a message", thereby provoking the spoiled little child to retaliate back. And before you know it, the North Koreans will have destroyed large areas of Seoul as well as it's northern suburbs and the South Korean towns and villages close to the border, with their many hundreds of conventional artillery pieces and rocket launchers raining fire on the city before the USA bombers and missiles could take them all out.

It won't just be a case of the actual numbers of South Koreans (and foreigners) killed (tens of thousands at the very least, millions if the North Koreans manage to get a nuke or two away before before destroyed), but the wider ramifications of targeting a major city, one of the world's commercial hubs, in this way.

Once it starts, no one knows who will also get dragged into it aka WW1 and WW2
 
Although in the executive and military branches of the US government the President theoretically has the final say on everything, the reality is quite different. The senior figures in the military and the most influential members of the Cabinet are typically much smarter and more pragmatic than whoever may be the current Commander-in-Chief. Certainly in the case of Trump, who is a man of mediocre intelligence at best, his underpinning puppet-masters would never let him make any stupid mistakes regarding North Korea.
 
Although in the executive and military branches of the US government the President theoretically has the final say on everything, the reality is quite different. The senior figures in the military and the most influential members of the Cabinet are typically much smarter and more pragmatic than whoever may be the current Commander-in-Chief. Certainly in the case of Trump, who is a man of mediocre intelligence at best, his underpinning puppet-masters would never let him make any stupid mistakes regarding North Korea.
Disagree. All it will take is a few chest thumping Trump tweets, the type he sometimes makes when he gets up in the middle of the night to go have a pee, tweets to which the spoiled brat in Pyongyang reacts, has a tantrum, orders a few more of his generals and relatives to be executed, and then does something stupid, like going ahead with his previous plan of the test firing of a long range ballistic missile in the general direction of Guam to show he's not intimidated, intending it to splash down a hundred or so miles from Guam but getting much closer than that. To which Trump then retaliates..... Bang!
 
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Donald Trump fires chief strategist Steve Bannon

Steve Bannon has been fired, or has resigned - depending upon who you believe. Is this good news, and if so, why?
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/18/p...081817steve-bannon-white-house1256PMStoryLink

(CNN)President Donald Trump's chief strategist Steve Bannon is out at the White House, two administration officials told CNN on Friday.

The President has privately stewed over Bannon in recent days, including Thursday night from his golf course in New Jersey. He was furious with his chief strategist after he was quoted in an interview with the American Prospect contradicting him on North Korea and asserting that he was able to make personnel changes at the State Department.

Bannon's exit comes just seven months after Trump took office and three weeks after retired Gen. John Kelly took over as chief strategist, looking to instill order in a chaotic White House beset by internal divisions, staff infighting and a storm of controversies.
Bannon's exit meant one of the White House's most controversial staffers, the man generally perceived as the driving force behind Trump's "nationalist" ideology, would no longer be at the center of the Trump universe.

Bannon joined Trump's campaign last year, moving from the sidelines as one of Trump's top cheerleaders to a position atop his campaign apparatus.

He did not travel with the President during the first week of what White House officials described as a "working vacation" at Trump's golf course in Bedminster, New Jersey. Instead Bannon remained in Washington to work out of a temporary office in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bannon friend says Breitbart ramping up for war against Trump. "It's now a Democrat White House," source says.</p>— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) <a href="https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/898594013409882112">August 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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This is getting interesting.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bannon friend says Breitbart ramping up for war against Trump. "It's now a Democrat White House," source says.</p>— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) <a href="https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/898594013409882112">August 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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This is getting interesting.

Obviously, POTUS comparing anti-fascist protesters to the KKK, neo-Nazis and White supremacists is not good enough for that extreme right-wing rag.
 
Trump gets rid of Stephen Bannon, a top proponent of his nationalist agenda

President Trump on Friday dismissed his embattled chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, an architect of his 2016 general election victory, in a major White House shake-up that follows a week of racial unrest, according to multiple administration officials.

Trump had been under mounting pressure to dispense with Bannon, who many officials view as a political Svengali but who has drawn scorn as a leading internal force encouraging and amplifying the president’s most controversial nationalist impulses.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, said in a Friday afternoon statement to reporters: “White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly and Steve Bannon have mutually agreed today would be Steve’s last day. We are grateful for his service and wish him the best.”

Some White House officials also said Friday they expect some of Bannon’s allies inside the administration to exit with him. Bannon works closely with a number of White House officials, including national security aide Sebastian Gorka and assistant Julia Hahn.

Bannon, the former executive chairman of Breitbart News — a fiery, hard-right news site that has gone to war with the Republican establishment — had been expecting to be cut loose from the White House, people close to him said. One of them explained that Bannon was resigned to that fate and is determined to continue to advocate for Trump’s agenda on the outside.

“No matter what happens, Steve is a honey badger,” said this person, who like others interviewed spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation. “Steve’s in a good place. He doesn’t care. He’s going to support the president and push the agenda, whether he’s on the inside or the outside.”

Bannon has told associates in recent days that if he were to leave the White House, the conservative populist movement that lifted Trump in last year’s campaign would be at risk. One person close to him said the coalition would amount to “Democrats, bankers, and hawks.” Bannon also has predicted that Trump would eventually turn back to him and others who share the president’s nationalist instincts, especially on trade.

John F. Kelly, the retired four-star Marine Corps general brought in late last month as White House chief of staff, has been contemplating dramatic changes to West Wing staffing that included firing Bannon, a right-wing populist who helped guide the president to victory in the final months of last year’s campaign.

The decision to fire Bannon was made by Kelly, officials said. It came after almost exactly three weeks on the job as chief of staff, a position in which he was given unilateral power to overhaul the West Wing staff in an effort to staunch warring factions, aides and advisers going rogue, and repeated leaks to the news media.

“This was without question one man’s decision: Kelly. One hundred percent,” one senior White House official said. “It’s been building for a while.”

This past week, as mainstream Republicans lambasted Trump for his handling of last week’s deadly white supremacist demonstration in Charlottesville, Va., many on the White House staff led a drum beat for the president to dismiss Bannon and any other aides who have connections of any kind to the white nationalist movement, this official said.

“The fevered pitch was basically outrage from dozens on the staff that anybody who’s ever had a part of that has to be purged immediately,” this official said.

Kelly has no personal animus toward Bannon, said people familiar with his thinking, but was especially frustrated with Bannon’s tendency to try to influence policy and personal matters not in his portfolio, as well as a negative media campaign he and his allies waged against national security adviser H.R. McMaster.

The president, meanwhile, had been upset about Bannon’s participation in a book by a Bloomberg News reporter Joshua Green, “Devil’s Bargain” — particularly the shared photo billing on the cover between Trump and his chief strategist.

This week, at a moment when even his allies and confidants agreed his job security was as precarious as it has ever been, Bannon further imperiled his own standing by giving an interview to the liberal American Prospect magazine, in which he sniped by name at his enemies within the White House including Gary Cohn, the National Economic Council director, and publicly contradicted the administration’s stance on North Korea.

Bannon confidants said he believed his conversation with the magazine was off the record, but the damage was done. Kelly, said two people familiar with his thinking, was most frustrated by his comments on North Korea, explaining that, as a general, he understands the human toll and the prospect of war with a hostile nation is not merely an intellectual exercise for him.

As Bannon waited to hear his fate in recent days, he was keeping in close touch with billionaire ally Robert Mercer and other longtime friends and benefactors in conservative politics and the right-wing media community, expressing a desire to stay in the White House while also musing about what his future could be outside of the federal government.

Associates said Bannon may partner on a new venture with the Mercer family, conservative mega-donors who served as his patrons in an array of enterprises before he joined the Trump campaign. One strong possibility: a new media entity.

“They have a very strong working relationship together and I would be shocked if we don’t hear of a major initiative involving Steve and the Mercers in the next 30 and 60 days,” said a person familiar with the family’s views, who requested anonymity to describe the thinking of the Mercers. “They don’t walk in lockstep in terms of their views, but they like the fact that Steve gets results and they think money put into ventures he’s involved in is money well spent.”

Hedge fund executive Robert Mercer and his daughter Rebekah collaborated with Bannon on at least five ventures between 2011 and 2016, including Breitbart, which Bannon ran. He also served as vice president and secretary of the Mercer-funded Cambridge Analytica, a data science company that worked for Trump’s campaign.

Bannon earned at least $917,000 in 2016, drawing at least $545,000 of that from four Mercer-backed ventures, according to a personal financial disclosure he filed in late March. At the time, he estimated that his assets were worth between $11.8 million and $53.8 million. Among his holdings: three rental properties and a strategic consulting firm he said was worth between $5 million and $25 million. The filing also showed that Bannon had significant cash reserves, reporting at least $1.1 million in three different U.S. bank accounts.

Much of Bannon’s time in recent days was spent in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building on the White House grounds, as the West Wing is under renovation, where he has a spacious corner office on the first floor that is piled with books he is reading and files on trade policy and immigration policy.

Bannon closely monitored media coverage of both him and Trump on television, thumbing his phone whenever associates would text or email him new articles. Whenever he read articles about rivals such as Cohn reportedly being critical of the president’s conduct, he fumed that they were undermining him as he was trying to enact what Trump promised his base voters.

Bannon has told people that he called The American Prospect simply to talk China policy, an example of how he has often acted as an in-house professor of sorts for Trumpism inside the White House. But when coverage of the candid interview exploded, he began to say that it was partly strategic, and most people close to him aren’t exactly sure what to believe about why and how that phone call unfolded.

Inside Trump’s circle, there have been two camps: those who argued he should fight to stay and be a political warrior for Trump’s nationalist instincts and those who believe his battles with the “globalists,” as he calls the more moderate wing of the White House, had reached their nadir. Bannon seemed to veer between those two sides in conversations with friends and allies,

As Bannon has come under scrutiny, so have his allies inside. Senior policy adviser Stephen Miller has a large footprint already and is seen as safe, but Bannon’s close allies Gorka and Hahn — both of whom worked at Breitbart — are seen as more vulnerable to changes. They have asserted themselves in talks with colleagues as Trump allies first, Bannon allies second.

Bannon has been under fire before, most prominently in early April, when Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, was pushing for his ouster; the president himself dinged him in the New York Post, and a Bannon friend likened him to a terminally ill patient who had been moved to hospice care.

“The guy is a survivor, and there’s no way he could be at the center of this for so long, and as controversial as he’s been and as outspoken as he’s been on every major debate — win, lose or draw — without being a savvy operator,” said one person familiar with the situation. “I certainly don’t think that he is just totally done.”

The potential for Bannon to wreak havoc and mischief on the White House from the outside is among the reasons Trump had been skittish about firing his chief strategist. And Bannon himself had used wartime metaphors to signal to friends and confidants that he would continue to pursue his nationalist, populist agenda if he leaves his government perch.

“I think the thing the president will need to get used to is Steve may from time to time call the president to account to his fealty or lack of fealty to the president’s agenda and that could get complicated politically,” said one outside White House adviser close to Bannon. “But I don’t think Steve is going to totally abandon the president or be totally disloyal, unless the president allows himself to be overtaken by the liberal Democrats, in which case every Republican will call him to account.”

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...utType=default-article&utm_term=.aa39622a8914
 
The New York Times reported, “As of Friday morning, the two men were still discussing Mr. Bannon’s future, the officials said. A person close to Mr. Bannon insisted the parting of ways was his idea, and that he had submitted his resignation to the president on Aug. 7, to be announced at the start of this week, but it was delayed in the wake of the racial unrest in Charlottesville, Va.”


A person close to Mr. Bannon insisted the parting of ways was his idea, and that he had submitted his resignation to the president on Aug. 7


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/18/white-house-john-kelly-steve-bannon-agree-today-is-bannons-last-day/
 
I hope Sebastian Gorka goes next. Despicable nazi trash. Trump is of course the final boss.
 
Steve Bannon has been fired, or has resigned - depending upon who you believe. Is this good news, and if so, why?

He is a known Anti-Semite and racist. Breitbart is an alt-right (read racist, disgusting) newspaper which he used to run to push his Islamophobic, Anti-Semitic racist views. In short, not a nice guy but perfectly suitable for a bigot like Trump.
 
Was on the cards. Scaramucci few days ago predicted this would happen talking to Stephen Colbert. The mouch has also done a 180 and seems to me is now leaning to the left as the entire show was him cleaning the air about himself, not sure if you watch the late show [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] and happened to catch that?

What a sham this is turning out to be regardless. It's like a monkey is the pilot in the cockpit as well as the captain.
 
Well trump gave it away in his rant a few days ago when he said we'll see what happens with Mr. Bannon. It appears to me it was bannon vs the goldman sach guys fighting over China policy. And the goldman sachs guys won so it will be interesting to see how they get along with the military guys...
 
He is a known Anti-Semite and racist. Breitbart is an alt-right (read racist, disgusting) newspaper which he used to run to push his Islamophobic, Anti-Semitic racist views. In short, not a nice guy but perfectly suitable for a bigot like Trump.
How big/influential is Breitbart? Presumably not in the big league?
 
How big/influential is Breitbart? Presumably not in the big league?

Not even a bit. They got their 15 minutes of fame by constantly backing Trump and chest-thumping when he won by collusion/American stupidity. They are essentially trolls. Some of it is thought-provoking but then you realize they are just trying to rile up their base of unemployed white trash. Their response to every horrible/stupid thing Trump does is to point at Hilary.

Breitbart is about as valuable as a tabloid newspaper but Bannon is a hemorrhoid on the face of this earth.
 
He is a known Anti-Semite and racist. Breitbart is an alt-right (read racist, disgusting) newspaper which he used to run to push his Islamophobic, Anti-Semitic racist views. In short, not a nice guy but perfectly suitable for a bigot like Trump.


I think Breitbart is a website, not newspaper. You are right, it does promote anti-Semitic, Islamophobic, ant-immigrant material, and is definitely a pro-White nationalist platform.

As for Steve Bannon, he is an arrogant fool who pretends to be god-like in his power to create America in his image. He may do more harm out of office than in, because there is nothing and no-one to constrain him.

Recent events have revealed just how bitterly divided the US - I have been watching CNN and FOX of late, simply to witness for myself the kinds of differences that are dominating current discourse, and why these differences, in policy, social culture and the state/future of the country, exist.


http://www.breitbart.com/
 
I think Breitbart is a website, not newspaper. You are right, it does promote anti-Semitic, Islamophobic, ant-immigrant material, and is definitely a pro-White nationalist platform.

http://www.breitbart.com/

Do people here only get their news from the MSM or do they ever do any independent research?

How is Breitbart anti-semitic at all? Breitbart himself was Jewish and the concept for the website was developed in a round table in Israel. Bannon himself comes from pro Judeo-Christian philosophy with a very Israel First agenda when it comes to American foreign policy. Bannon is also a civic/economic nationalist, not a WHITE nationalist. There's not a single article on Breitbart that calls for white nationalism.
 
Do people here only get their news from the MSM or do they ever do any independent research?

How is Breitbart anti-semitic at all? Breitbart himself was Jewish and the concept for the website was developed in a round table in Israel. Bannon himself comes from pro Judeo-Christian philosophy with a very Israel First agenda when it comes to American foreign policy. Bannon is also a civic/economic nationalist, not a WHITE nationalist. There's not a single article on Breitbart that calls for white nationalism.


Are Jews incapable of hating and reviling other Jews or non-Jews? Yes, Andrew Breitbart was Jewish, but so are Zionists, who hate with a vengeance their own coreligionists because they oppose the Occupation and the State of Israel.

"The only time Breitbart and his goon squad get upset about racism is when they think it is somehow being directed against white people like themselves. That’s why a particularly manic mob member (who wouldn’t stop using the pretentious word “rubric”) seemed to argue to me against the existence of the Congressional Black Caucus because it would not allow a hostile conservative congressman to join. And it’s why when CPAC chose as its keynote speaker the race-baiter Glenn Beck, who claimed Obama has “a deep-seated hatred for white people.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/feeling-the-hate-at-cpac_b_474077.html

As for Steve Bannon, he is Irish-Catholic, and is clearly on the 'alt-right' of politics. If you do not understand what 'alt-right' is, then I suggest you engage in some research about the subject.

Breitbart promotes anti-immigrant, Islamophobic and anti-Semitic agendas. Jews themselves have accused the publication of being anti-Semitic - as being pro-Israel does not mean that they are pro-Jews.

'Steve Bannon’s friends on the far right of the Jewish community can make facile claims about his support for Israel, but that does nothing to change the fact that Bannon spreads an ideology of hatred and bigotry that is extremely hostile and dangerous to American Jews and to all of the values – like tolerance, diversity, and equality – that we stand for and that protect us in this country,” Rosenblum said in a statement.'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-israel-american-jews_us_582cbc4ee4b030997bbd266f
 
Shame trump keeps hiring these racists. All these unnecessary controversies are making him forget his objectives when he became president. Trump should concentrate all his energies on defeating evils like islamism and white nationalism.
 
Are Jews incapable of hating and reviling other Jews or non-Jews? Yes, Andrew Breitbart was Jewish, but so are Zionists, who hate with a vengeance their own coreligionists because they oppose the Occupation and the State of Israel.

"The only time Breitbart and his goon squad get upset about racism is when they think it is somehow being directed against white people like themselves. That’s why a particularly manic mob member (who wouldn’t stop using the pretentious word “rubric”) seemed to argue to me against the existence of the Congressional Black Caucus because it would not allow a hostile conservative congressman to join. And it’s why when CPAC chose as its keynote speaker the race-baiter Glenn Beck, who claimed Obama has “a deep-seated hatred for white people.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/feeling-the-hate-at-cpac_b_474077.html

As for Steve Bannon, he is Irish-Catholic, and is clearly on the 'alt-right' of politics. If you do not understand what 'alt-right' is, then I suggest you engage in some research about the subject.

Breitbart promotes anti-immigrant, Islamophobic and anti-Semitic agendas. Jews themselves have accused the publication of being anti-Semitic - as being pro-Israel does not mean that they are pro-Jews.

'Steve Bannon’s friends on the far right of the Jewish community can make facile claims about his support for Israel, but that does nothing to change the fact that Bannon spreads an ideology of hatred and bigotry that is extremely hostile and dangerous to American Jews and to all of the values – like tolerance, diversity, and equality – that we stand for and that protect us in this country,” Rosenblum said in a statement.'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-israel-american-jews_us_582cbc4ee4b030997bbd266f


So you're saying Breitbart was a self hating jew? And your source is an opinion post from huffington post? The most far left tabloid rag?

Bannon is not anti-immigrant. Trump is not anti-immigrant. They are anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. There is so much disinfo in that garbage you quoted but I'm not even going to bother unless you bring out more tone neutral sources. Christ..dude.
 
So you're saying Breitbart was a self hating jew? And your source is an opinion post from huffington post? The most far left tabloid rag?

Bannon is not anti-immigrant. Trump is not anti-immigrant. They are anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. There is so much disinfo in that garbage you quoted but I'm not even going to bother unless you bring out more tone neutral sources. Christ..dude.



So you are dismissing the views of Jews - rabbis, journalists, academics - because of your claim that the source is a far-left tabloid? How very scholarly, I don't think.

You appear immune to the truth. Fair enough - you are entitled to believe in falsehoods. But, at least provide sources for your claims, that Bannon and Trump are not anti-immigrant.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steve Bannon is vowing he will "never turn" on President Donald Trump <a href="https://t.co/81O4wqUIJ5">https://t.co/81O4wqUIJ5</a> <a href="https://t.co/y28utbOJRK">pic.twitter.com/y28utbOJRK</a></p>— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/901339206588542976">August 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Former White House strategist Steve Bannon steps down from Breitbart News Network after public break with Trump.</p>— The Associated Press (@AP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP/status/950838301459705857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steve Bannon is vowing he will "never turn" on President Donald Trump <a href="https://t.co/81O4wqUIJ5">https://t.co/81O4wqUIJ5</a> <a href="https://t.co/y28utbOJRK">pic.twitter.com/y28utbOJRK</a></p>— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/901339206588542976">August 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Well that 'never' didn't last long.
 
just another member of the Evangelical Zionist fellowship brotherhood

That this loon was anyone near any government tells u a lot about America
This guy should be behind bars somewhere in Norway or in Mongolia
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon charged with fraud over fundraising campaign to build US-Mexico border wall <a href="https://t.co/DwaG66DuxL">https://t.co/DwaG66DuxL</a></p>— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1296443453153345538?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon charged with fraud over fundraising campaign to build US-Mexico border wall <a href="https://t.co/DwaG66DuxL">https://t.co/DwaG66DuxL</a></p>— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1296443453153345538?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Steve Bannon, a former adviser to U.S. President Donald Trump, has been charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud in relation to a fundraising campaign to support the building of the U.S.-Mexico border wall, the Justice Department said on Thursday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...th-fraud-by-federal-prosecutors-idUSKBN25G1J4
 
I’m actually surprised by this news. Disagree as one might with Bannon, he always came across as a disheveled ideologue who wouldn’t care about something as banal as financial fraud.
 
I’m actually surprised by this news. Disagree as one might with Bannon, he always came across as a disheveled ideologue who wouldn’t care about something as banal as financial fraud.

Same. Democrats are still focusing on that failed witch hunt. They need to let it go and focus on things that actually matter.

I don't like Bannon and I think he is a Nazi. But, Democrats need to try a different tactic if they want to win.
 
I’m actually surprised by this news. Disagree as one might with Bannon, he always came across as a disheveled ideologue who wouldn’t care about something as banal as financial fraud.

Really?

Oh dear god
 
Really?

Oh dear god

Really. That was the image he crafted of himself, but I guess the former Goldman Sachs exec in him will manifest itself no matter how many dowdy plaid shirts he puts on...
 
Same. Democrats are still focusing on that failed witch hunt. They need to let it go and focus on things that actually matter.

I don't like Bannon and I think he is a Nazi. But, Democrats need to try a different tactic if they want to win.

How is this in any way related to what I was referring to?
 
I thought you were calling out Democratic Party's approach. What were you referring to?

I was referring to the fact that wannabe ideologues are likely to leave hackneyed fiscal manipulations to underlings, portraying themselves as being above the fray, unconcerned with such banalities, consumed with questions of a more abstract ideological nature.

Bannon the alt-right icon had certainly portrayed himself thus so far.

Besides, how does him being hauled in by the Feds in NY dovetail with the Democrats’ approach?
 
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And so it begins...

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Fox host blames ‘deep state’ for Bannon arrest – Bannon says that's for 'nut cases'

Fox Business host Lou Dobbs has blamed the “deep state” conspiracy theory for the arrest of Steve Bannon, the former Trump campaign manager who on Thursday pleaded not guilty to a charge of skimming donations from a fundraising campaign for a border wall with Mexico.

Bannon himself is a key propagator of the theory that unknown government operatives are working against the Trump administration – but has also said the idea is “for nut cases” and should not be taken seriously.

Addressing the story on his show on Thursday night, Dobbs, one of Donald Trump’s favorite Fox hosts, said Bannon “was arrested this morning, not by the FBI or US Marshals but by inspectors of the US Postal Service while Bannon was cruising aboard a mega yacht, owned by a Chinese billionaire”.

“Yes, you heard that correctly – an elite police unit of the Postal Service. They’re called the US Postal Inspection Service and they had authority to arrest Bannon and they did so … Somehow, the deep state launched agents of the US Postal Service to arrest Mr Bannon.”

The “deep state” is supposedly a conglomeration of bureaucrats and law enforcement agents which exists to thwart Trump’s agenda. Bannon enthusiastically propagated the theory when he was Trump’s campaign manager in the 2016 election and then a senior adviser in the White House.

However, since leaving Trump’s employ he has repeatedly cast doubt on the theory.

In Deep State: Trump, the FBI and the Rule of Law by James B Stewart, published last October, Bannon said the “deep state conspiracy theory is for nut cases”, because “America isn’t Turkey or Egypt”.

There is a formidable government bureaucracy in the US, he told Stewart, but “there’s nothing ‘deep’ about it. It’s right in your face.”

Bannon also described to the journalist Michael Wolff, for his book Siege: Trump Under Fire, advice he gave to a ghostwriter working on Trump’s Enemies: How the Deep State is Undermining the Presidency, a book by Trump aides Corey Lewandowski and David Bossie.

As quoted by Wolff, Bannon said: “You do realise that none of this is true.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/21/steve-bannon-lou-dobbs-deep-state-conspiracy-theory
 
Steve Bannon gets May 2021 trial date in We Build the Wall fraud case

The judge overseeing the New York fraud case against former Trump campaign manager and White House strategist Steve Bannon set a trial date of 24 May 2021, but also recognized that Covid-19 limitations on court proceedings could lead to a change.

“There are only a few courtrooms that are outfitted” to deal with the pandemic, Manhattan federal court judge Analisa Torres said during a video conference on Monday afternoon.

But, she said: “I’m going to be optimistic.”

Bannon attended proceedings, though remotely, visible only as a slate grey icon on a conference screen.

“Mr Bannon, are you on the line?” asked a court clerk.

“Present,” the invisible Bannon responded.

The conference was visible on large screens in the jury assembly room at the downtown Manhattan courthouse where the trial will take place.

Bannon, who worked in the White House in the first year of Donald Trump’s presidency, was arrested on 20 August on a luxury yacht off the Connecticut coast. He is alleged to have siphoned money from We Build the Wall, an online fundraiser for Trump’s contentious border wall with Mexico.

The Manhattan district attorney alleges that Bannon used a non-profit he controlled to divert “over $1m from the … online campaign, at least some of which he used to cover hundreds of thousands of dollars in personal expenses”.

Officials said We Build The Wall raised more than $25m.

Three other men – Brian Kolfage, Andrew Badolato and Timothy Shea – are charged. Each faces one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and one of conspiracy to commit money laundering. Each count carries a maximum 20-year prison sentence.

Prosecutors claim the men “orchestrated a scheme to defraud hundreds of thousands of donors” who were promised 100% of donations would go to building the wall. Prosecutors also say the defendants made up invoices and bogus “vendor” agreements to cover up their skimming.

Kolfage, Badolato and Shea – who, like Bannon, did not appear visually – pleaded not guilty. Kolfage will remain released pending trial on a $500,000 bond. Badolato and Shea will each remain out on a $250,000 bond.

On Monday, the downtown courthouse was quiet, with just two TV cameras on the sidewalk. it marked a dramatic contrast from Bannon’s first appearance in this case, earlier this month, which ended in theatrics.

Bannon’s attorney then entered a not guilty plea. Just before Bannon stepped out of the building, released on a $5m bond, he tugged off his mask and flipped his stringy hair to the side. He smiled and waved to reporters and photographers, maintaining a triumphant demeanor despite the possibility of decades behind bars.

“This entire fiasco is to stop people who want to build the wall,” he said.

Prosecutors’ concerns about Kolfage’s recent social media posts were also discussed on Monday. Some of Kolfage’s posts have maintained that the case against him is “political”, “an assault on every [We Build the Wall] donors[’] freedom”, a “witch hunt” and an attempt to take “political prisoners”.

In a letter late last week, prosecutors wrote that Kolfage had made “at least a dozen extrajudicial statements about this case on his Facebook account, which has more than 630,000 followers”.

Prosecutors said they were concerned the posts could affect witnesses and alleged victims, “many of whom appear to follow Kolfage’s social media accounts”, and potentially taint a future jury pool.

On Monday, Judge Torres warned the four men against making statements that could affect the impartiality of potential jurors or a fair trial.

“Do you understand, Mr Kolfage?”

“Yes, your honor.”

“Mr Bannon?”

“Yes, your honor.”

The two other men also said they understood.

Harvey Steinberg, Kolfage’s attorney, took issue with prosecutors’ comments about his client’s statements, pointing out that they issued a press release following the arrests, which used the word “fraudsters”.

“It reminds me of the bully who pick[ed] on, if you will, the person they perceived to be the weakest,” Steinberg said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/31/steve-bannon-new-york-court-fraud-case-we-build-wall
 
<b>Steve Bannon: Jury finds Trump ally guilty of contempt of Congress</b>

A US jury has found former Trump strategist Steve Bannon guilty on two counts of contempt of Congress.

Mr Bannon, 68, was indicted last year over his failure to co-operate with the congressional committee probing the events leading up to the Capitol riot.

The former White House chief strategist is said to have been an unofficial adviser to Mr Trump at the time of the insurrection on 6 January 2021.

He faces up to two years in jail and up to $200,000 (£167,000) in fines.

Mr Bannon will report to probation officers before leaving the court on Friday.

His sentencing hearing has been set for 21 October.

Lawyers with the US Department of Justice had argued that Mr Bannon felt "above the law" by ignoring a "mandatory" legal summons from the congressional committee investigating the 6 January breach of the US Capitol.

"Our government only works if people show up, it only works if people play by the rules, and it only works if people are held accountable when they do not," prosecutor Molly Gaston said during closing statements.

"The defendant chose allegiance to Donald Trump over compliance with the law."

Despite vowing to go "medieval" on his enemies, Mr Bannon's defence team rested its case on Thursday without him testifying and without calling any other witnesses.

Attorneys claimed the trial against Mr Bannon was an act of political retribution.

They asserted that rather than ignoring the subpoenas, he believed he was negotiating on them, and also believed the deadlines in the summons were flexible, not fixed.

In closing statements, lawyer Evan Corcoran told the court the path his client Mr Bannon took "turned out to be a mistake" but "was not a crime".

The 12-member jury panel deliberated for about three hours on Friday before reaching its verdict.

Mr Bannon was a key player in former president Donald Trump's 2016 election win, serving first as his campaign chief and later taking on the role of chief strategist at the White House.

He left that position amid political fallout from a violent far-right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017.

But the podcaster is still considered a top ally of Mr Trump.

The House of Representatives select committee investigating the Capitol riots first issued a legal summons to Mr Bannon in September 2021.

The panel has long believed Mr Bannon was involved in efforts by Trump supporters to storm Congress and challenge the outcome of the November 2020 presidential election.

It is particularly interested in Mr Bannon's communications with Mr Trump ahead of the incident, as well as "war room" meetings held at a nearby hotel with other key figures, allegedly as part of a last-ditch attempt to thwart the certification of President Joe Biden's election win.

But Mr Bannon proclaimed his innocence and defied the subpoenas, saying he would turn it into a "misdemeanour from hell" for the Biden administration.

He also maintained his conversations with the former president were covered by executive privilege.

This is a legal principle that holds communications between presidents and their advisers to be protected from disclosure in order to allow for candid advice.

A judge, however, ruled he could not claim privilege in this case.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62259034.amp
 
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