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Its almost sure tat A.SHAHZAD wont be selected in next ODI SQUAD (its a different thing that he might get selected as this is Pakistan cricket).Bcoz new selectors will make some changes to show as if they are doing a good job

Now I can see these FANTASTIC 4 are waiting to grab t opportunity for tour of ENGLAND..Our next major bilateral and icc tournaments are mostly in English conditions...

1.SAMI ASLAM
(Reasons for selectors to select him-left handed to partner azhar, gone through proper system, has experience of playing in u-19 in England, proper decent player, good form recently, scored 40+ in one match he got

reasons not to select-well I dont know any

2.SHARJEEL KHAN
(Reasons to select-leftie, aggressive, plays modern cricket, clean hitter, if dean jones gets selected as coach he will put weight behind his selection

reasons not to select-fitness, HIGHHHHHHLY INCONSISTENT)

3.SALMAN BUTT
(Reasons to selection-again leftie, has experience, played well in England, decent player

reasons not to select-u all know it

4.FAKHAR ZAMAN
(Reasons to selection-again leftie,good attackin player, gone through domestic and A teams

reasons not to select-no international exposure

SO THESE 4 CAN END A.SHAHZADS EGO

There shud be 3 openers in a squad, right nw we hav only 1 azhar (its a different thing even he is not genuine opener nd unfit for ODI).so out of these 4 atleas 2 will b selected..WHICH 2 WILL IT BE?

BUT T BIG QUESTION IS CAN THEY END AHMED SHAHZADS CAREER?, CAN THEY BRING SUNSET IN A.SHAHZADS LIFE FULL OF ATTITUDE?, CAN THEY BECOME OUR TRUE OPENERS?, CAN THEY HELP POOR PAKISTAN TEAM?, CAN THEY TURN MINNOWS INTO TEAM OF 1992?


its a different thing that THESE 4 might turn into another Shahzad (selfie), u akmal (talent), another afridi (BOOM BURST)

And our selectors might bring back TTF'S and our score card FOR CT 2017 and WC 2019 may look something like this

A ALI 20 (35)
A SHAHZAD 7 (17)
M HAFEEZ 30 (43)
A SHAFIQ 20 (37)
S MALIK 10 (17)
U AKMAL 23 (40)
S AHMED 27 (31)

Alas this is PCB
this is PAKISTAN CRICKET
 
I like sharjeel and I want him to be given a chance but I don't think he will be a god choice in ODIs or Tests.

SOme people rate fakhar highly and some have doubts , I think the upcoming pentagular tournament will be our first chance to see him batting live (hope he is selected and the tournament is broadcast ). I am not too sure about salman butt , we arent going to play india or srilanka in the next 12 months and butt is good against only these two plus minnows in ODIs (i am not too eager on getting him back). Sami aslam can not survive with his poor technique in international cricket.
 
I wud personally lik to see
sami and fakhar..after few odi series I wud even take sharjeel if needed
 
When did Salman Butt play well in England. He's generally been poor in England. In ODIs played just one match and got out for a duck. In test cricket, was nothing remarkable in England, did have a good australian rest series there but was followed by an awful England series there.

Salman Butt literally performed just against Australia in test cricket (and yes he did it both in australia and out), and against India and Bangladesh in ODIs. In ODIs in fact funnily enough you call him a flat track bully, really only performed in Asia, against Bangladesh (when Bangladesh was a minnow) and India. He's even worse than Hafeez in that regard. Take Bangladesh and India out from his stats, and the guy doesn't even average 24 in ODIs. Not saying that doing well against India is a good thing, it is, but it shows he has a massive overeliance on one team, as he did for test cricket too. Not much point if he performs against one (not the minnow) teams and goes missing against the rest.

Feel people overrate Butt. They don't remember how good or bad he was. Yeah it made no sense that he was great against Australia in test cricket and yet somehow poor against the rest. But he was, and really should have been better than what he was.
 
Acricketfan said:
Because he is a pathetic batsman.
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He's so overrated, just based on his Australian test record. If you do well against one country doesn't mean you can do nothing against the rest (which his record represents).

It's funny, I don't remember people rating him when he was playing as much as they do now :)). I remember quite a few being rather embarrassed we were carrying an opener who was struggling to stay over 30 average (and then on top of that made captain with such a low average). Yet people are criticising guys in our team who are averaging 40. At least it's good how our standards have improved to what we want from players at least in test cricket.
 
fazleefridi said:
Its almost sure tat A.SHAHZAD wont be selected in next ODI SQUAD (its a different thing that he might get selected as this is Pakistan cricket).Bcoz new selectors will make some changes to show as if they are doing a good job

Now I can see these FANTASTIC 4 are waiting to grab t opportunity for tour of ENGLAND..Our next major bilateral and icc tournaments are mostly in English conditions...

1.SAMI ASLAM
(Reasons for selectors to select him-left handed to partner azhar, gone through proper system, has experience of playing in u-19 in England, proper decent player, good form recently, scored 40+ in one match he got

reasons not to select-well I dont know any

2.SHARJEEL KHAN
(Reasons to select-leftie, aggressive, plays modern cricket, clean hitter, if dean jones gets selected as coach he will put weight behind his selection

reasons not to select-fitness, HIGHHHHHHLY INCONSISTENT)

3.SALMAN BUTT
(Reasons to selection-again leftie, has experience, played well in England, decent player

reasons not to select-u all know it

4.FAKHAR ZAMAN
(Reasons to selection-again leftie,good attackin player, gone through domestic and A teams

reasons not to select-no international exposure

SO THESE 4 CAN END A.SHAHZADS EGO

There shud be 3 openers in a squad, right nw we hav only 1 azhar (its a different thing even he is not genuine opener nd unfit for ODI).so out of these 4 atleas 2 will b selected..WHICH 2 WILL IT BE?

BUT T BIG QUESTION IS CAN THEY END AHMED SHAHZADS CAREER?, CAN THEY BRING SUNSET IN A.SHAHZADS LIFE FULL OF ATTITUDE?, CAN THEY BECOME OUR TRUE OPENERS?, CAN THEY HELP POOR PAKISTAN TEAM?, CAN THEY TURN MINNOWS INTO TEAM OF 1992?


its a different thing that THESE 4 might turn into another Shahzad (selfie), u akmal (talent), another afridi (BOOM BURST)

And our selectors might bring back TTF'S and our score card FOR CT 2017 and WC 2019 may look something like this

A ALI 20 (35)
A SHAHZAD 7 (17)
M HAFEEZ 30 (43)
A SHAFIQ 20 (37)
S MALIK 10 (17)
U AKMAL 23 (40)
S AHMED 27 (31)

Alas this is PCB
this is PAKISTAN CRICKET
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Bro, just try to use proper grammar, fonts and spacing. It makes the posts much easier to read.
 
emranabbas said:
90, 95, 81*, 30, 6, 99*, 135, scores since 2016 how is it pathetic? explain
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Yes, at the SR of 120 against best bowlers of the country on seaming wicket, right?
Even Kamra Akmal avg was higher than him, but when Kami faced good bowlers in PSL, we all know what happened.

Let's see how he is going to perform in upcoming domestic tournament and Quaid e Azam trophy
 
emranabbas said:
90, 95, 81*, 30, 6, 99*, 135, scores since 2016 how is it pathetic? explain
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That's not international standard, that's domestic. As others have said Kamran has performed. Loads have performed in domestic that no one wants in the international team. Farhat is a gun batsman in domestic for example.

His performances in domestic are extremely good, and would warrant a comeback, but that doesn't make me forget his past international performances which have been on average, average. Shouldn't assume he'll rain in the runs in international cricket upon recall when he certainly didn't do it before. He might, but who knows. All we have is his past international record to judge him which isn't good.
 
I can understand...but feel bored to use full grammar and sentence....bcoz my soul aim is to convince t msg...and I know u ppl will understand it...wont u?
 
#GreenRoars said:
Yes, at the SR of 120 against best bowlers of the country on seaming wicket, right?
Even Kamra Akmal avg was higher than him, but when Kami faced good bowlers in PSL, we all know what happened.

Let's see how he is going to perform in upcoming domestic tournament and Quaid e Azam trophy
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butt averaged nearly twice as much as kamran did in the same tournament vs the same bowlers infact butt averagd higher then babar azam and sami aslam in the same tournament vs the same bowlers

no need to make up fake stats to win an argument?
 
Sami Aslam is the right choice.

Not sure if they want to be taking Salman Butt.
 
ads101 said:
That's not international standard, that's domestic. As others have said Kamran has performed. Loads have performed in domestic that no one wants in the international team. Farhat is a gun batsman in domestic for example.

His performances in domestic are extremely good, and would warrant a comeback, but that doesn't make me forget his past international performances which have been on average, average. Shouldn't assume he'll rain in the runs in international cricket upon recall when he certainly didn't do it before. He might, but who knows. All we have is his past international record to judge him which isn't good.
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i understand but others are lying to win the argument with made up stats

salman averaged higher than kamran, sami aslam, babar azam in the same tournament vs same bowlers

Butt - AVG 107
Babar Azam - AVG 101
Sami Aslam - AVG 67
K Akmal - AVG 72
Farhat did not play
 
emranabbas said:
i understand but others are lying to win the argument with made up stats

salman averaged higher than kamran, sami aslam, babar azam in the same tournament vs same bowlers

Butt - AVG 107
Babar Azam - AVG 101
Sami Aslam - AVG 67
K Akmal - AVG 72
Farhat did not play
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And do you know his SR?
 
emranabbas said:
butt averaged nearly twice as much as kamran did in the same tournament vs the same bowlers infact butt averagd higher then babar azam and sami aslam in the same tournament vs the same bowlers

no need to make up fake stats to win an argument?
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Ok, if you are so fond of avg then let me tell you Akbar avg higher than Salman Butt with higher strike rate. So, why Salman Butt then???
People don't want Azhar and Shehzad in ODI because they can't play at SR of 100+ but yes they want Salman Butt whose SR is i guess 74 or 75 is worst than them, and we don't know how the King Butt will perform against good bowling attack.

That's why i said wait for the upcoming Pentangular cup.
 
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Fakhar can't handle international class bowling or pressure.

Sami Aslam from his U19 days is destined to play for us and take our opening forward, atleast in ODIs. The batsman that we saw in his only ODI was excellent, confident and a good stroke-maker who can cut, pull, cover drive, inside out.
 
Major said:
Butt has scored the most runs in the domestic season
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Most runs? No, most runs were scored by Kamran Akmal. And also people saying Butt has the highest avg but i guess they are only seeing the name starting from 2 in stats, not from 1.

And important thing is bro Butt SR if 74, do you really think it is good enough for international standard? If yes, then Azhar Ali is miles better than him.
 
#GreenRoars said:
Ok, if you are so fond of avg then let me tell you Akbar avg higher than Salman Butt with higher strike rate. So, why Salman Butt then???
People don't want Azhar and Shehzad in ODI because they can't play at SR of 100+ but yes they want Salman Butt whose SR is i guess 74 or 75 is worst than them, and we don't know how the King Butt will perform against good bowling attack.

That's why i said wait for the upcoming Pentangular cup.
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I don't care about Butt because he was a worse failure than Imran Farhat and Ahmed Shehzad against all top 8 sides.

He only scored against India while failing against all other cricketing nations.

Can't play swing, seam, spin.
 
Hawkeye said:
I don't care about Butt because he was a worse failure than Imran Farhat and Ahmed Shehzad against all top 8 sides.

He only scored against India while failing against all other cricketing nations.

Can't play swing, seam, spin.
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This is what i am saying, people want change, people want new faces, but on the other hand they are willing to bring proven failures.
 
#GreenRoars said:
Ok, if you are so fond of avg then let me tell you Akbar avg higher than Salman Butt with higher strike rate. So, why Salman Butt then???
People don't want Azhar and Shehzad in ODI because they can't play at SR of 100+ but yes they want Salman Butt whose SR is i guess 74 or 75 is worst than them, and we don't know how the King Butt will perform against good bowling attack.

That's why i said wait for the upcoming Pentangular cup.
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im not fond of averages i judge by watching, you sir are the one who bought up that akmal averaged higher than butt and that was incorrect information

discussion by the OP is about sharjeel fakhar sami and butt you need to speak to OP and ask him to add akbar in the post too

i dont really care what people want everyone has their favorites, team should be selected on merit if butt does well he should be selected

sir best is to wait and see how he performs in future but so far he has done well

also sir i only asked you why not butt and you also replied on behalf of a poster who said salman is pathetic
so on 1 hand your saying butt is pathetic and other you saying lets wait till upcoming pentangular cup
 
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I think it will be difficult for salman to make it

three more left

sami
sharjeel
fakhar...

I think new selectors will look at pentagular cup performance. ..nd select 2 among these 3...
 
ads101 said:
He's so overrated, just based on his Australian test record. If you do well against one country doesn't mean you can do nothing against the rest (which his record represents).

It's funny, I don't remember people rating him when he was playing as much as they do now :)). I remember quite a few being rather embarrassed we were carrying an opener who was struggling to stay over 30 average (and then on top of that made captain with such a low average). Yet people are criticising guys in our team who are averaging 40. At least it's good how our standards have improved to what we want from players at least in test cricket.
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Only a certain poster who has been watching cricket for over 40 years thinks he is a world class batsman.
 
emranabbas said:
im not fond of averages i judge by watching, you sir are the one who bought up that akmal averaged higher than butt and that was incorrect information

discussion by the OP is about sharjeel fakhar sami and butt you need to speak to OP and ask him to add akbar in the post too

i dont really care what people want everyone has their favorites, team should be selected on merit if butt does well he should be selected

sir best is to wait and see how he performs in future but so far he has done well

also sir i only asked you why not butt and you also replied on behalf of a poster who said salman is pathetic
so on 1 hand your saying butt is pathetic and other you saying lets wait till upcoming pentangular cup
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Nah, you mentioned his scores to the other poster, yes i said about higher avg but it was a mistake, it wasn't Kami, Kami has scored more runs with higher SR but as i said in above post, his avg was lower than Butt. On the other hand Akbar avg and SR was higher than Butt.

And from this i mean, only score or average is not the criteria, you need to see his SR, right?
You are talking about merit, then i must say Butt is not on merit, his SR is poor and every sane person he was a poor batsman before his ban too.

And i said in my first post that better to wait for upcoming domestic tournaments and let's see how he will perform.

You are saying he should be selected on merit but on the other hand you are saying he has done well so far, how he has done well? He has performed poor if we compare it to international standards.

He was pathetic and he is pathetic, and am not saying to myself, i am saying to others that wait for a good tournament and then you people will see how poor he is, and we have better players than him who should be given chance ahead of him.

And i hope this Pentangular cup will be televised.
 
we have to great selection process wit us

1.PENTAGULAR CUP
2. 5 PAKISTAN A MATCHES IN ENGLAND

I think they shud give preference to performances in PAKISTAN A squad compared to pentagular cup...bcoz we know balls and pitches used in domestic, also we totally have 2 bilateral and 2 icc tourneys in ENGLAND. ..

5 ODIS IN 2016
CT IN 2017
5 ODIS IN 2018
WC IN 2019

hence performance un England of Pakistan a squad shud be given more preference

As I said..if SHARJEEL is groomed he might do well in ENGLAND as he wont be facing much spin
 
emranabbas said:
but he can hold the team from the start rather than what misbah did coming in the middle and trying to hold the team together
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If holding the team is the criteria of selection, then better to use Azhar Ali. By playing at the SR of 70,80 at opening position is not holding the team.
 
no brother we dont hav much time to invest in players who are yet to be groomed for international cricket...mukhtar, nauman,imam, khurram, are not yet ready for international (its another story that they are not even international material)

ri8 nw we hav these 3 players who are atleas ready for international cricket

sami, sharjeel and fakhar
 
The imminent dropping of Shehzad could actually turn out to be a blessing in disguise for him. Like the rest, he would have been severely exposed in English conditions and emphatically put in his place by Anderson, Broad, Finn, Stokes etc etc.

We will now be selecting a rookie in alien conditions and expecting miracles as usual. In all likelihood whoever comes in will fail and the Pakistani public who are well known for having short term memory will be clamoring for the return of the talented 'golden boy' who was dropped for discipline totally ignoring that he has been rubbish for years. One or two ex cricketers with their own vested agendas will throw their behind him and back will come the 'golden boy' more untouchable than ever.
 
yes we want A shahzad as we have invested lot in him...but he shud be away atleas for a yr...so tat he can improve his game and attitude....

champions trophy is in june 2017...

so for me 3 openers will be...

S ASLAM
F ZAMAN
S KHAN/A SHAHZAD (but only after CT 17 and if he has improved bcoz I dont want azhar...sarfraz shud b captain)
 
Why people are so against Azhar Ali as a Captain. I actually believe he can be a good captain. Guys remember to make a great captain you also need to have match winners, i am sorry but you can be a great tactical captain, but you need to have players who can win you matches on their own thinking, planning and match winning abilties. We all saw what happened to Ricky Ponting as soon as he lost glenn, gilly, hayden, lee, he went to become a pretty mediocre captain. And no salman butt please as i said earlier he damaged Pakistan cricket to the most extent. And he should not be allowed back sames goes asif. We need to move on from them and lets not make other playing nations eyes on us all the time. Amir is enough pls, there are better players than Salman butt outthere.
 
fazleefridi said:
yes we want A shahzad as we have invested lot in him...but he shud be away atleas for a yr...so tat he can improve his game and attitude....

champions trophy is in june 2017...

so for me 3 openers will be...

S ASLAM
F ZAMAN
S KHAN/A SHAHZAD (but only after CT 17 and if he has improved bcoz I dont want azhar...sarfraz shud b captain)
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Weren't you an Indian ?
 
emranabbas said:
but he can hold the team from the start rather than what misbah did coming in the middle and trying to hold the team together
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Yes and remain stuck in the cricket on 80s and 90s. Don't utilize power plays. Just hold the team. Already an excuse for Butt if he can't score at a good rate.

Even if Butt performed in last One Day Cup, he doesn't merit a spot as of yet. Need to play a complete domestic season which will be in later part of the year.
 
Sharjeel might be limited technically, but I think we should give him a long rope in limited overs cricket. Our batting is so staid and dormant that we need someone to provide impetus at the top. Sharjeel might only come off once in five matches, but it's not as if the current lot amounts to anything. Of course, he has no place in our test team, which is fine really.

I'd have Hafeez and Shehzad/Masood open in tests in England right now, simply because I don't want Sami Aslam to be thrown to the wolves at this stage of his career. We're not likely to win anyway.
 
Acricketfan said:
Only a certain poster who has been watching cricket for over 40 years thinks he is a world class batsman.
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lol I know who you are talking about, I've disagreed with him many times on that subject, but he's free to have his opinion.
 
lahoriyah1234 said:
Why people are so against Azhar Ali as a Captain. I actually believe he can be a good captain. Guys remember to make a great captain you also need to have match winners, i am sorry but you can be a great tactical captain, but you need to have players who can win you matches on their own thinking, planning and match winning abilties. We all saw what happened to Ricky Ponting as soon as he lost glenn, gilly, hayden, lee, he went to become a pretty mediocre captain. And no salman butt please as i said earlier he damaged Pakistan cricket to the most extent. And he should not be allowed back sames goes asif. We need to move on from them and lets not make other playing nations eyes on us all the time. Amir is enough pls, there are better players than Salman butt outthere.
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It's not his captaincy people have problem with most people feel he is not a limited overs player and does not deserve a place in the side specially in today's world of over 6 runs per over run rates.

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emranabbas said:
i understand but others are lying to win the argument with made up stats

salman averaged higher than kamran, sami aslam, babar azam in the same tournament vs same bowlers

Butt - AVG 107
Babar Azam - AVG 101
Sami Aslam - AVG 67
K Akmal - AVG 72
Farhat did not play
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Agree Butt's been the best. Just saying people in the past have performed in domestic, doesn't mean their excellent players. Farhat has been extremely good in domestic over his career yet he hasn't translated that into international performances. Same as Butt too actually before he got banned.

In all honesty I would me more willing to give him another chance if he hadn't fixed. He has badly underperformed for his talent, and I'm always a fan of giving guys who have earnt their chance through domestic and potentially gone and improved their game. The guys who don't perform (by perform I mean excel) in domestic and get put into the international team due to their 'talent' generally always fail.

I'm not even a fan of Amir back in the side tbh. But at least Amir and Asif were good before their ban. Butt IMO was distinctly average.
 
JibranAnsari said:
I like sharjeel and I want him to be given a chance but I don't think he will be a god choice in ODIs or Tests.

SOme people rate fakhar highly and some have doubts , I think the upcoming pentagular tournament will be our first chance to see him batting live (hope he is selected and the tournament is broadcast ). I am not too sure about salman butt , we arent going to play india or srilanka in the next 12 months and butt is good against only these two plus minnows in ODIs (i am not too eager on getting him back). Sami aslam can not survive with his poor technique in international cricket.
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Is Pentangular Cup going to be 50 over format ? Would like to see more of Fakhar against decent bowling attacks. He should be in A team for England tour.

As for OP - Sharjeel is too inconsistent for ODIs but he's the sort of hack you need in a T20 to get you off to a good start, he should be given long rope in that format. I wouldn't completely dismiss Mukhtar Ahmed as we have a total lack of power hitters.

Thought Sami Aslam was prematurely dropped despite having done little wrong with a decent ODI debut vs Bangladesh. However he does have technical issues he needs to resolve and struggled vs England Lions.

Salman Butt was like sitting duck vs England in 2010, with the overseas tours coming up he'll be exposed again. People call Hafeez a HTB but Butt wasn't even that - struggling even at home on flat Pakistani phattas. No to Butt.
 
"Ahmed Shehzad has brains but no shots, Umar Akmal has shots but no brains"...M A Jinnah 13 July 1937
I know this thread isnt about Junior Junior Akmal, just wanted to the quote in and give myself a pat on the back!
 
Usman Chadda said:
Has bashed India like no tomorrow. You don't have the right to an opinion on that sorry.

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By that logic you don't have the right to call Sehwag and Kohli all kinds of names because they have pummeled your team to no end.
 
Sub hype hai dada, do chaar match khelien gaye yeh aur phir tum saray Shehzad ke liyay ro rahay hogaye
 
JibranAnsari said:
I like sharjeel and I want him to be given a chance but I don't think he will be a god choice in ODIs or Tests.

SOme people rate fakhar highly and some have doubts , I think the upcoming pentagular tournament will be our first chance to see him batting live (hope he is selected and the tournament is broadcast ). I am not too sure about salman butt , we arent going to play india or srilanka in the next 12 months and butt is good against only these two plus minnows in ODIs (i am not too eager on getting him back). Sami aslam can not survive with his poor technique in international cricket.
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He is a good choice for ODIs, but not for Tests. Sami Aslam will fare well with his technique in ODIs.
 
It's a sad state of affairs when those 4 are the best we have in Pakistan. I'm sure the management wanted to drop Shehzad and Akmal long ago but when there's nothing to replace them with you can hardly play them for taking the gamble. Even if their attitudes were terrible sadly they're the best we have.
 
Those mentioned above are no good. They lack mental toughness.

Coaches need to to work with Sami Aslam , he can be a okay opener/.
 
Sami Asam should have been give more chances. Sharjeel would most likely fail in ODIs. Butt - No comments. Haven't seen Zaman play.
 
Back Sharjeel and he will give you a better return than any other opener
 
Eagerly waiting to see what Sami Aslam and Fakhar Zaman do in the Pentangular Cup

Expecting some tons from them :)
 
hitthestump said:
It's a sad state of affairs when those 4 are the best we have in Pakistan. I'm sure the management wanted to drop Shehzad and Akmal long ago but when there's nothing to replace them with you can hardly play them for taking the gamble. Even if their attitudes were terrible sadly they're the best we have.
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How can they prepare replacement unless they give proper chance to others? Only Umar Akmal started his career with a bang. Shehzad was horrible from the word go (I liked him in his debut series against Aus, much more compact). It was PCB who kept on giving him chances so he can learn. Same can be done with others and you will see better results.
 
Sami Aslam and Shehzad should be our long term opening pair.
 
Rather see Ahmed Shehzad play for pakistan for the next 10 years straight then see Salman Butt in a Pakistan shirt again.


Captain of the team fixing matches, traitor !
 
Square Drive said:
Shehzad and long-term? :))

He is only a decent option for Tests and even then with his attitude, he has no future.
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I still see a future for him in LOI.

Needs a big score in ODI's to get back into his groove.
 
Markhor said:
Is Pentangular Cup going to be 50 over format ? Would like to see more of Fakhar against decent bowling attacks. He should be in A team for England tour.

As for OP - Sharjeel is too inconsistent for ODIs but he's the sort of hack you need in a T20 to get you off to a good start, he should be given long rope in that format. I wouldn't completely dismiss Mukhtar Ahmed as we have a total lack of power hitters.

Thought Sami Aslam was prematurely dropped despite having done little wrong with a decent ODI debut vs Bangladesh. However he does have technical issues he needs to resolve and struggled vs England Lions.

Salman Butt was like sitting duck vs England in 2010, with the overseas tours coming up he'll be exposed again. People call Hafeez a HTB but Butt wasn't even that - struggling even at home on flat Pakistani phattas. No to Butt.
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Butt has scored two 100s in Australia, how many Pakistani openers have done that? - In his last foreign tours(2009/2010), he featured very well against AUS(both in AUS and ENG)/NZ but failed against ENG... Where as Hafeez and others never succeeded anywhere outside Asia...After Anwar he was one of the better openers we had...

I have not seen him recently, but if he is in good form, for test he is must...Mainly because of experience, our openers are walking wickets, you want some experience there...

Misbah and Co have not developed an opener in last 4/5 years, Hafeez and Shezad cannot play pace, even in ODI they are more comfortable attacking spinners than pacers, Why they keep on investing in them?? - They should have brought guys like Sami, Babar, Harris, Umar Akmal, Nasir Jamshed into the top order(in various formats), guys who have technique to play pace, by now they would have developed game against spin...You can see those guys were/are comfortable against pace...That is one of the reason Pakistan is failing badly at top, because we have invested in wrong horses...We have always saved guys with poor technique against pace(Hafeez, Sarfraz, Malik, Misbah, Shezad), because bench mark is technique against spin in UAE, Domestic is full of that kind of garbage, there is no need to put these guys in top 4...They had develop their UAE game because of decade of domestic + UAE experience, but they are completely clueless else where...Even in UAE they don't score against pace... :facepalm:

Now in every tournament(you will see that in next 10 tests as well on tour), we have no confidence from ball number 1, guys who hide from seamers all their life have to face them, result is we loose the match starting from very first over... We have seen our top order features worse than most associate forget about test nations... Keep on investing in this garbage, keep getting the same result :(
 
Pak should do good with alrounder rather than searching for pure batsman.... the likes of Amir yamin Hamad azam zafar gohar and the likes must be given more chances.....everywhere this has been the norm for a while
 
Any news on Nasir Jamshed ? Although he struggled in the WC , but i liked his stroke play.
 
Hawkeye said:
Fakhar can't handle international class bowling or pressure.

Sami Aslam from his U19 days is destined to play for us and take our opening forward, atleast in ODIs. The batsman that we saw in his only ODI was excellent, confident and a good stroke-maker who can cut, pull, cover drive, inside out.
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