Gadhimai Hindu festival: World’s ‘largest animal sacrifice’ under way in defiance of ban

[KingKhanWC]

Hindu worshippers have begun beheading thousands of buffalo in Nepal as part of what is thought to be the world’s largest animal sacrifice event.

The Gadhimai festival started in the early hours of Tuesday morning as a priest killed a goat, rat, chicken, pig and pigeon and then offered blood from his own body.

Around 200 butchers wielding curved ***** knives then descended on a walled temple arena containing an estimated 3,500 buffalo to behead the animals.

Campaigners for animal rights charity Humane Society International described seeing baby buffaloes bellowing as they watched their mothers being decapitated.

They said others collapsed from exhaustion, sickness and stress as worshippers attempted to drag them to their deaths.

“The suffering of these animals is so upsetting, they have endured exhausting journeys to get here and are paraded in front of a baying crowd as all around them they witness other animals being decapitated one by one,” she said.

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This is disgusting to say the least. Look at the state of those blades and the passion of the butchers.

Cows are holy yet these animals which are very similar are butchered to this extreme? Can any Hindu poster explain this please?

 

[Swashbuckler]

Cow is holy for a section of Hindus, not buffalo.

Nepalese consume buffalo meat, how is this festival any different from Bakr Id? As usual vegan NGOs whining over a non-issue. Don't people consume meat anywhere else in the world? How do you think meat comes on the table? BJP is trying to stop this practice, those idiots have imposed a lot of pressure on the Nepalese, banned transport of animals from India, pushed for its complete ban which is frankly none of our business. Nepalese have every right to celebrate their culture the way they see fit.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Till 2014 there was no controversy regarding this festival. Then BJP came to power and immediately started dictating to Nepal what to do. Nepal depends a lot on India being landlocked and because many of their youth come to India to find jobs. This allows GOI to bully the Nepalese, no wonder they are tilting towards China now. There is a big Hindutva hand in this, if sane people can't stand by the Nepalese today there will be no place to hide when they ban Bakr Id sacrifices or Christmas Turkey consumption in the future.

 

[troodon]

I remember reading about this before too. Pathetic people killing animals due to irrational beliefs.

I wonder how their God would even allow this carnage.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Cow is holy for a section of Hindus, not buffalo.

Nepalese consume buffalo meat, how is this festival any different from Bakr Id? As usual vegan NGOs whining over a non-issue. Don't people consume meat anywhere else in the world? How do you think meat comes on the table? BJP is trying to stop this practice, those idiots have imposed a lot of pressure on the Nepalese, banned transport of animals from India, pushed for its complete ban which is frankly none of our business. Nepalese have every right to celebrate their culture the way they see fit.

Sure some Muslims may slaughter animals in the inproper manner but the vast majority of meat on Eid is from animals who have been carefully slaughtered. The Islamic halal method is a method where the animals feel no harm. Here, it's a bloodbath, heads rolling, crazy Hindu extremist nutters running around with weird blunt swords.


Look at this. No meat comes on the table due to this method. You shouldn't be defending this.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Till 2014 there was no controversy regarding this festival. Then BJP came to power and immediately started dictating to Nepal what to do. Nepal depends a lot on India being landlocked and because many of their youth come to India to find jobs. This allows GOI to bully the Nepalese, no wonder they are tilting towards China now. There is a big Hindutva hand in this, if sane people can't stand by the Nepalese today there will be no place to hide when they ban Bakr Id sacrifices or Christmas Turkey consumption in the future.

Problems started in nepal once the constitution made them "Secular", till then they were a hindu nation.

Knowing nepalese, they will thumb the noses of these Ngos.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sure some Muslims may slaughter animals in the inproper manner but the vast majority of meat on Eid is from animals who have been carefully slaughtered. The Islamic halal method is a method where the animals feel no harm. Here, it's a bloodbath, heads rolling, crazy Hindu extremist nutters running around with weird blunt swords.


Look at this. No meat comes on the table due to this method. You shouldn't be defending this.

Extremists? Sacrificing animals is extremism?

Lol at when muslims sacrifice its fine while hindus are extremist.

This is no different from Bakr Id.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Extremists? Sacrificing animals is extremism?

Lol at when muslims sacrifice its fine while hindus are extremist.

This is no different from Bakr Id.

Stick to the topic, not usual diversion RSS tactic.s

This is not stunning or halal method, this is outright brutal cowardly cruelty. Trust RSS members to support this.

How is the buffalo different to a cow? Call David Attenborough and please explain.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Sure some Muslims may slaughter animals in the inproper manner but the vast majority of meat on Eid is from animals who have been carefully slaughtered. The Islamic halal method is a method where the animals feel no harm. Here, it's a bloodbath, heads rolling, crazy Hindu extremist nutters running around with weird blunt swords.


Look at this. No meat comes on the table due to this method. You shouldn't be defending this.

Read this article, the meat is consumed. https://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/29/world/asia/nepal-gadhimai-ritual-slaughter/index.html

Which method is relatively less painful is still up for debate. Muslims may feel halal is humane, people from other religions may disagree. The shape of the swords and manner depend entirely on the method of sacrifice.

Bloodbath happens because this is a third world country with third world mentality. I am sure there is blood bath during Id in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh as well, in places with poor drainage and obsolete urban planning, also depends on population density. I remember seeing a video of a river of blood in Dhaka during Bakr Id a couple of years ago, available on youtube. Not posting here but you can check it out. Besides I don't think majority of animals in Id are properly slaughtered, I have had Muslim friends say this to me because there is paucity of professional butchers. Idea should be to propose solutions, not be condescending towards practices of others. I won't mind if the idea behind this is to educate the people there about the shortcomings in their methods and propose better alternatives.

Why insult those people by calling them crazy extremist Hindu nutters? Wouldn't it be bigoted to call Muslims celebrating Id as crazy extremist Muslim nutters? This is their culture, part of their religious belief and from all links I see they do consume all of the meat. We sacrifice goats, chicken in our village and nothing goes to waste. The scale is nowhere as big as over here but I think the whole of Nepal comes to this one place because that temple has importance.

The ones opposing them are BJP/RSS people, who are the extremists here?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Read this article, the meat is consumed. https://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/29/world/asia/nepal-gadhimai-ritual-slaughter/index.html

Which method is relatively less painful is still up for debate. Muslims may feel halal is humane, people from other religions may disagree. The shape of the swords and manner depend entirely on the method of sacrifice.

Bloodbath happens because this is a third world country with third world mentality. I am sure there is blood bath during Id in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh as well, in places with poor drainage and obsolete urban planning, also depends on population density. I remember seeing a video of a river of blood in Dhaka during Bakr Id a couple of years ago, available on youtube. Not posting here but you can check it out. Besides I don't think majority of animals in Id are properly slaughtered, I have had Muslim friends say this to me because there is paucity of professional butchers. Idea should be to propose solutions, not be condescending towards practices of others. I won't mind if the idea behind this is to educate the people there about the shortcomings in their methods and propose better alternatives.

Why insult those people by calling them crazy extremist Hindu nutters? Wouldn't it be bigoted to call Muslims celebrating Id as crazy extremist Muslim nutters? This is their culture, part of their religious belief and from all links I see they do consume all of the meat. We sacrifice goats, chicken in our village and nothing goes to waste. The scale is nowhere as big as over here but I think the whole of Nepal comes to this one place because that temple has importance.

The ones opposing them are BJP/RSS people, who are the extremists here?

If a Muslim did this I would call them extremist cowardly nutters or Jews/Chrisitan/Athiests.

Post me one video where so many animals are butcherd in such a fashion with their offspring crying on ground while their parents head is torn off with blunt rusty blade. Just one?

Halal method is the most humane but again don't divert the thread, you are not an RSS member but a good poster.

What is the difference between a cow and buffalo in Hinduism?

 

[Swashbuckler]

Hindus and Sikhs don't do halal, we kill the animal with one blow, instantaneous death. I won't mind if all animals are stunned before slaughter, we can improve and adopt the technology used in western countries. Our minds are conditioned to believe that killing with one blow is less painful, Muslims may believe halal is painless. That can be discussed in a separate thread, but point is in the minds of the faithful both groups feel they are right.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Nepalese can do better here, I am not going to blatantly defend them. Instead of being disrespectful or outright banning why not educate those people? Encourage them to build the necessary infrastructure?

 

[Swashbuckler]

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Post me one video where so many animals are butcherd in such a fashion with their offspring crying on ground while their parents head is torn off with blunt rusty blade. Just one?

Even if there are videos I won't post them. I am not in the mood to browse through gory videos/images, nor do I want to do point scoring.

Animal cruelty is a reality everywhere, in some places large scale while in others spread across many smaller places. Consumption of lamb, veal etc is common, so even the young ones aren't spared.

What is the difference between a cow and buffalo in Hinduism?

Cow is important in Hinduism, from scriptures. Buffalo not so, in fact India is one of the top exporters of buffalo meat. Many Hindus outside the Hindi belt and Gujarat consume buffalo meat.

 

[Swashbuckler]

I have seen that video (#5) just now [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]. No way would I approve such types of slaughter, they aren't doing it right. Much worse than I imagined, happens differently in Tamil Nadu. I hope they introspect, banning won't be right but they can be coerced into doing it in a better manner.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I have seen that video (#5) just now [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]. No way would I approve such types of slaughter, they aren't doing it right. Much worse than I imagined, happens differently in Tamil Nadu. I hope they introspect, banning won't be right but they can be coerced into doing it in a better manner.

Thank you! I was a bit surprised you were defending this. I never thought for one second this is Hinduism. Thanks for clarifying.

Cow is mentioned which makes it holy, fair enough. But don't you think both are very similar creatures, even if the buffalo isn't mentioned I would have thought Hindus would still not kill such an animal.

 

[kingusama92]

Disturbing video.

Torturing an animal to this extent is disgusting.

 

[Romali_rotti]

It's brutal and disgusting, I have heard about this, Nepali's are more backwards than ISIS it seems. Bunch of Animals..... Makes my blood boil....

 

[Swashbuckler]

Thank you! I was a bit surprised you were defending this. I never thought for one second this is Hinduism. Thanks for clarifying.

Cow is mentioned which makes it holy, fair enough. But don't you think both are very similar creatures, even if the buffalo isn't mentioned I would have thought Hindus would still not kill such an animal.

Never knew it was this bad until I saw that video. Earlier I was looking at it from the angle of freedom to choose what to eat. You must be aware of happenings in India post 2014 where meat eaters are made to feel guilty, where people have been lynched for their dietary habits. Since GOI has a habit of bullying Nepal and BJP is GOI at present, my judgement was clouded. I support the right of those Nepali people to continue their sacrifice tradition but it should be done humanely, not in a barbaric manner.

Regarding the cow vs buffalo thing, explanation will be long-winded and I have a few theories. Since I am feeling sleepy, I will perhaps address it later .

 

[Technics 1210]

Think of the bright side; Greta will be pleased with the reduction in methane levels.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

The head blinked after decapitation. Slashing, in front of herd. Apocalyptic

 

[pillionrider]

...but the vast majority of meat on Eid is from animals who have been carefully slaughtered.

) Oh man

Europe and its residents should first take care of their Spanish bulls and other animals before they start lecturing third world countries about their practices.

 

[minamino]

If a Muslim did this I would call them extremist cowardly nutters or Jews/Chrisitan/Athiests.

Post me one video where so many animals are butcherd in such a fashion with their offspring crying on ground while their parents head is torn off with blunt rusty blade. Just one?

Halal method is the most humane but again don't divert the thread, you are not an RSS member but a good poster.

What is the difference between a cow and buffalo in Hinduism?

Just asking, Have you ever seen any animal being sacrificed on Eid?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Barbarians.

 

[MP2011]

Disgusting act by barbarians...Those who defend it in the name of religious freedom are equivalent of those barbarians...

I don't condone whatever is done in Bakrid either, that is also a reprehensible act.

Who are we to sacrifice these hapless animals? What if some superior race comes tomorrow and sacrifices our kids for their own rituals?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Never knew it was this bad until I saw that video. Earlier I was looking at it from the angle of freedom to choose what to eat. You must be aware of happenings in India post 2014 where meat eaters are made to feel guilty, where people have been lynched for their dietary habits. Since GOI has a habit of bullying Nepal and BJP is GOI at present, my judgement was clouded. I support the right of those Nepali people to continue their sacrifice tradition but it should be done humanely, not in a barbaric manner.

Regarding the cow vs buffalo thing, explanation will be long-winded and I have a few theories. Since I am feeling sleepy, I will perhaps address it later .

Where does bjp and goi come here?

 

[Slog]

Just asking, Have you ever seen any animal being sacrificed on Eid?

Butchers do it in a prescribed way.

Here it’s just people with daggers slashing at will and with however many blows they want.

 

[minamino]

Butchers do it in a prescribed way.

Here it’s just people with daggers slashing at will and with however many blows they want.

Exactly. Butchers in Pakistan don't know how to slaughter animals they are just doing muk mukka in a hurry

 

[Slog]

Exactly. Butchers in Pakistan don't know how to slaughter animals they are just doing muk mukka in a hurry

How many Pakistani slaughter houses have you gone to and checked each butcher on their sacrificial techniques?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I remember TM Riddle posting that in India it was considered big props to sever the head of the buffalo in one blow. Now I see what he meant.

Killing animals for food is not going to be pleasant viewing whichever way you look at it. I think it always looks worse when you see it done en masse like this.

 

[Mesozoic]

Dear Lord!

I just saw a buffalo blinking after it's decapitated. How am I going to unsee this? Imagine the pain it had to go through in those few seconds.

 

[troodon]

Dear Lord!

I just saw a buffalo blinking after it's decapitated. How am I going to unsee this? Imagine the pain it had to go through in those few seconds.

Animal slaughter should be outright banned. There is no place for it in a civilized society.

All their life, these buffaloes serve humans by giving milk and helping in Agriculture and carrying heavy loads. Even their dung is used as a fuel for cooking. This is what those poor animals deserve at the end for serving their master all their life?

Really shameful backward pathetic humans. They are murderers and should be punished for this brutality.

 

[minamino]

The only thing I can take out from this thread is that its generalization at its best. At first, I thought it was happening in India but no its happening in Nepal, then why should Indians be answerable for that? Does the OP know that there are Hindus in Pakistan as well? Iran hangs people over petty crimes, does it mean every Muslim should be answerable for that or when a woman is stoned in Afghanistan, should it mean all the Muslims should be answerable for that? I would like to hear OP's response to this.

 

[Slog]

The only thing I can take out from this thread is that its generalization at its best. At first, I thought it was happening in India but no its happening in Nepal, then why should Indians be answerable for that? Does the OP know that there are Hindus in Pakistan as well? Iran hangs people over petty crimes, does it mean every Muslim should be answerable for that or when a woman is stoned in Afghanistan, should it mean all the Muslims should be answerable for that? I would like to hear OP's response to this.

Not once in the OP or subsequent posts has any poster said that indians should be answerable.

Again you are making things up in your hand and are a little too sensitive about your India even when not in the conversation

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The only thing I can take out from this thread is that its generalization at its best. At first, I thought it was happening in India but no its happening in Nepal, then why should Indians be answerable for that? Does the OP know that there are Hindus in Pakistan as well? Iran hangs people over petty crimes, does it mean every Muslim should be answerable for that or when a woman is stoned in Afghanistan, should it mean all the Muslims should be answerable for that? I would like to hear OP's response to this.

Is that the only thing you could take out of this thread? More worried about India's reputation than the animals getting their heads hacked off in the hundreds?

 

[minamino]

Is that the only thing you could take out of this thread? More worried about India's reputation than the animals getting their heads hacked off in the hundreds?

As I have said this already that if you have seen animals being zibah in Pakistan, most of them are still moving without even their heads and I don't know how that is any better than the sacrifice in Nepal. Secondly its not even about India, its happening in Nepal.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The only thing I can take out from this thread is that its generalization at its best. At first, I thought it was happening in India but no its happening in Nepal, then why should Indians be answerable for that? Does the OP know that there are Hindus in Pakistan as well? Iran hangs people over petty crimes, does it mean every Muslim should be answerable for that or when a woman is stoned in Afghanistan, should it mean all the Muslims should be answerable for that? I would like to hear OP's response to this.

Can you point out the post where I have wrote the word India or Indians?

This thread is specific to this brutal inhumane cruel ritual in the name of religion. It's some Indian posters getting defensive, which cant be helped.

A Hindu poster [MENTION=143530]Swashbuckler[/MENTION] has condemned this practice.

This is pure evil, nothing short. Ive seen more videos, buffalos are chased and hacked from behind in a field of death.

 

[minamino]

Can you point out the post where I have wrote the word India or Indians?

This thread is specific to this brutal inhumane cruel ritual in the name of religion. It's some Indian posters getting defensive, which cant be helped.

A Hindu poster [MENTION=143530]Swashbuckler[/MENTION] has condemned this practice.

This is pure evil, nothing short. Ive seen more videos, buffalos are chased and hacked from behind in a field of death.

From what I think, most of the Hindu posters have already condemned it.

 

[KingKhanWC]

) Oh man

Europe and its residents should first take care of their Spanish bulls and other animals before they start lecturing third world countries about their practices.

Ive been to Spain many times, never to a bullfight but its on the T.V over there. Cant recall any time a bull was hacked with a rusty big blade? Or am I not aware of something you have seen?

Just asking, Have you ever seen any animal being sacrificed on Eid?

Yes, it was done very well, the animal was killed very quickly via the Islamic method, the most humane. Food of the animal was given to the poor. Of course some hurt animals but even this is never a ritual of a bloodbath animal orgy.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

As I have said this already that if you have seen animals being zibah in Pakistan, most of them are still moving without even their heads and I don't know how that is any better than the sacrifice in Nepal. Secondly its not even about India, its happening in Nepal.

As I already said in my first post in this thread, #29, killing animals en masse is not going to make pleasant viewing for anyone, regardless of where it happens. It's not about Pakistan vs India so stop getting so triggered and defensive over India. You aren't even meant to be Indian remember? (lol)

 

[KingKhanWC]

From what I think, most of the Hindu posters have already condemned it.

Its about 50/50 but should only be 100% condemnation. This is not a dig at Hinduism because no religion would support such barbarity. People should be in tears watching this not thinking of whattaboutism. The way of the current world I suppose.

 

[Slog]

As I have said this already that if you have seen animals being zibah in Pakistan, most of them are still moving without even their heads and I don't know how that is any better than the sacrifice in Nepal. Secondly its not even about India, its happening in Nepal.

From what I think, most of the Hindu posters have already condemned it.

Why are you getting so defensive about India when thread is not even about India and the country is not remotely mentioned

 

[Technics 1210]

No one has answered the pertinent question here : what is the difference between a Cow and a Buffalo?

 

[KingKhanWC]

No one has answered the pertinent question here : what is the difference between a Cow and a Buffalo?

It was said the Cow is mentioned in the holy book but the buffalo is not.

The follow on question is both are similar animals so why would a religion place on of these animals so highly as holy while the other is ok to be killed, sold off for profit? Perhaps this is the reason why some extremists don't have the same empathy for the buffalo as they do for the cow?