saqlain said:I am not really an expert and to be honest neither I have watched every cricket match and nor I know or recall how every batsmen got out. I think short pitch is a pretty tricky ball because you are hoping that a batsmen would play that delivery by pulling or hooking the ball and hopefully the fielder at the boundry would take that catch. In my understanding this is whats going on most of the time. There are only three things which are possible. Either the ball will go for a 4 or a 6, got out close to the boundry or the batsman is gonna completly miss the ball or duck. Bottom line is any player can get out and any player can hit a 4 or 6. There are no good or bad players of short balls out there. At international level if you are comfortable you are gonna play or go after the player and if you are not comfortable you are let the ball pass. I dont think there is any instance where a bowler is bowling all 6 deliveries as short balls. But it is a good way to play with the batsmen's mind.
kingusama92 said:The players who can't play the short ball are usually the ones who get caught in two minds. They set themselves to play the shot and then see the ball in front of their face and completely lose focus causing the ball to hit them flush on the helmet.
You stated that the guys who are not comfortable leave the ball and watch it go by. This is incorrect in a way because the guys who are uncomfortable aren't able to make the decision quick enough and get themselves tangled up.
You can judge a player on his ability against the short ball by seeing if he gets the ball off the middle of the bat every single time the short ball is bowled. Top edges don't count because those are usually because you were scared and got lucky.
saqlain said:Tell me this, how many times it has happened that the captain or the bowler asked for a fielder at the deep and he tried or actually went for a short pitch delivery?? I know sometimes bowlers do this just to confuse the batsmen but when they actually gonna be sending a short pitch delivery there is always a guy in the deep. You tell me if you are a batsmen and you know whats going on, if you are not good 80% sure that you can either put the ball in the gap or across the rope would you go for that shot (unless you are Afridi)????? Trust me you wont untill u r sure that the players are inside the circle and you the area is all wide open. Anyway, i dont want to make me sound like an expert because i am not and I am sure most of us who have not have any experience of playing first class cricket or better might not know how it feels like facing short pitch deliveries. By leaving the ball doesnt mean that one is not a good player of a short pitch delivery.
mindless slogging said:For me Ricky Ponting has a reputation of playing the pull shot well, but KP is also fantastic against the short ball. He never seems to be in trouble with that delivery.
Also a lot of people here seem to be suggesting players like Nazir, Afridi etc, but I think the OP means who plays the short ball well in the heat of battle in a test match on a rough track. Afridi and Nazir can play it well in ODI flat decks, so I wouldn't count them.
kingusama92 said:I never said leaving the short ball means you are a poor player of the short pitch delivery. Usually guys who can leave the ball well are good players of the short ball. It's the amount of times you leave it that tells the bowler if you suck at the short ball or not.
You are completely right that in most cases the player is at deep square leg when they know a short delivery is imminent. The thing with the deep square leg is that this fielder is usually there the whole time. There is no way a batsman will keep giving away dot balls to the bowler.
Most batsman who are proficient at handling the short ball will look to smash the ball in front of square. The only way you will get out at deep square leg is if you mistime the ball. If the shot is played properly you won't have it going to that guy.
Both of us have valid reasons according to me and it really comes down to the batsman himself. Bowlers will feel that they are winning if the batsman keeps leaving the ball due to him being incapable of playing the short ball. Once they notice you are leaving every ball that's short, they begin to aim at your body with shortish deliveries and it's almost impossible to move away from those.
The_Cricket_Devil said:I'm going to go with Ponting out of the current crop of the players though Akmal, Strauss and Kallis play it very well too
Out of past players, other than the ones that have already been mentioned I think Michael Slater is up there as well. The way he comfortably pulled Shoaib Akhtar during the 99/2000 series was a sight to behold
There are three ways to handle short pitched bowling. If I explain it from Sri Lankan experiences,cricketisit said:Arvinda DeSilva was one of the best ever,
then probably Ponting and Viv.
Bro, never use the word ‘never’ when you referring to some players. Just look at this,mindless slogging said:KP is also fantastic against the short ball. He never seems to be in trouble with that delivery.
aravinda1234 said:2. Defensive but positive approach… for example Hashan Thilakaratne. He rarely played pull and hook shots but was very competent against the short ball compare to other SL batsmen. He had some special achievements as a SL test batsmen… only batsmen to score a test century in SA up to now… and to my knowledge he is the only batsmen to score a test century at WACA ground (those days the pitch was very quick).
aravinda1234 said:Really? I don't think he's that bad though... he had a nice back lift... definitely better than Mr. D. Leman.
We had a lead in the first innings in all three matches... and AUS had the advantage of bowling in the fourth innings on deteriorating pitches. With that, negative captaincy of Thilakaratne couse the defeat. Honestly speaking I remember the innings of Hayden, Gilcrist, Langer but not the Sir Lehmann’s.Random Aussie said:Sir Lehmann was crucial in our little beating of you 3-0 on your home turf.
aravinda1234 said:We had a lead in the first innings in all three matches... and AUS had the advantage of bowling in the fourth innings on deteriorating pitches. With that, negative captaincy of Thilakaratne couse the defeat. Honestly speaking I remember the innings of Hayden, Gilcrist, Langer but not the Sir Lehmann’s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQY2tZkLZbE&feature=fvwKhalil said:Who in your opinion is/was the best batsmen against short pitched deliveries in matches outside the subcontinent.
To me it was Azhar Mahmood and than Azhruddin
DHONI183 said:Sachin Tendulkar is quite good!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbKACsCo4x4&feature=relatedJAV12341 said:ponting and tendulkar are the best at playing short stuff and nazir can be destructive on his day of short bowling :iamlegend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuZz0fNO13Q&feature=relatedsali said:Gorden Greenidge
Brian LaraViv Richards