Government, TLP reach agreement; state to take legal measures to place Asia Bibi's name on ECL

[Zeeraq]

The government and Tehreek-i-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) have reached terms to conclude the latter's nationwide protest, DawnNewsTV has reported, with the government making the concession to "initiate the legal process" to place Asia Bibi's name on the exit control list (ECL).

The government has also said it will not oppose a review petition filed against the Supreme Court's judgement in the Asia Bibi blasphemy case.

The government has also promised to take appropriate legal action to redress any deaths that may have occurred during the protests against the Asia Bibi verdict and to release all people picked up in connection with the protests starting October 30.

The TLP has in turn apoloigised if it "hurt the sentiments or inconvenienced anyone without reason".

The agreement was signed by Dr Noorul Haq Qadri (religious affairs minister) and Raja Basharat (law minister Punjab) on behalf of the government, and by Pir Muhammad Afzal Qadri (senior leader of the TLP) and Muhammad Waheed Noor (central chief nazim of the TLP).

The complainant in the Asia Bibi case, Qari Muhammad Salaam, had filed a review petition a day earlier through his counsel, Ghulam Mustafa, against the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Asia's conviction in the blasphemy case.

The petitioner had also sought the placement of Asia's name on the Exit Control List (ECL) till the judgement is reviewed.

The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf had said yesterday that the federal government does not plan to “put Asia Bibi’s name on the exit control list (ECL) or [file an] appeal for a review against the apex court’s verdict”.

It had further said that the review petition filed by Salaam was "filed by the concerned party, which has nothing to do with the government”.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1443123/g...egal-measures-to-place-asia-bibis-name-on-ecl

 

[Bewal Express]

Positive- No large scale loss of life,no civil war
Negative- State still weak and the inevitable battle with maulvis put off for little longer

 

[MenInG]

Positive- No large scale loss of life,no civil war
Negative- State still weak and the inevitable battle with maulvis put off for little longer

They are controlling this.

How dare they ask someone to be put on ECL?

 

[Farz]

Positive- No large scale loss of life,no civil war
Negative- State still weak and the inevitable battle with maulvis put off for little longer

I dont see any positives here. There was no civil war, but what about all the drama they did for no reason? What about all the properties that they burned of innocent people? Maybe a short term political gain but huge long term loss here for the country. Government is setting up bad example here by bending over to please these extremist mullas.

 

[MenInG]

 

[PetroDollars]

how did the TLP get so powerfull

Pakistan is a doomed nation, and pti has shown to be spineless, this is why Mush was great he would take these mullahs on with full force.

 

[RickyG]

I’ve defended Imran Khan before. But this is indefensible.

I don’t know how he’ll live with this decision.

This is no different from something pml-n or ppp would’ve done.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

I’m absolutely disgusted

 

[Extra_Cover]

Not happy with this. How can someone (not related to case) challenge the verdict and ask for review of the case?

We need more competent people at the helm to deal with adhoc/emergency situations.

I support PTI and will continue to do that but cannot defend what is wrong. This is wrong.

 

[Bewal Express]

I dont see any positives here. There was no civil war, but what about all the drama they did for no reason? What about all the properties that they burned of innocent people? Maybe a short term political gain but huge long term loss here for the country. Government is setting up bad example here by bending over to please these extremist mullas.

I can’t disagree with the damage these buffoons have done but the prevention of civil war is def a positive.

 

[Bewal Express]

how did the TLP get so powerfull

Pakistan is a doomed nation, and pti has shown to be spineless, this is why Mush was great he would take these mullahs on with full force.

So we go back to the inevitable conclusion that civilians are incapable of running PK- the Generals are the only ones that can

 

[Manager101]

So we go back to the inevitable conclusion that civilians are incapable of running PK- the Generals are the only ones that can

Army under a marshal law would use force as first option, but under a civilian government they show hesitation considering today's statement from ISPR.

 

[Bewal Express]

Army under a marshal law would use force as first option but under civilian rule they show hesitation considering today's statement from ISPR.

This fudge shows that the Maulvis are in the ascendancy and as soon as you beat one lot like with the TTP another lot appear TLP.

 

[Manager101]

This fudge shows that the Maulvis are in the ascendancy and as soon as you beat one lot like with the TTP another lot appear TLP.

Yeah, unfortunately this is the reality, thats why correct education in all Madarassa is required, hopefully Imran Khan can implement the plan which he had mentioned regarding this issue.

 

[Bewal Express]

Yeah, unfortunately this is the reality, thats why correct education in all Madarassa is required, hopefully Imran Khan can implement the plan which he had mentioned regarding this issue.

After this debacle, no one can unless they are prepared to fight.

 

[sjahmed23]

Forget army, isi or any foreign governments. Moulvis reign supreme in this country they've been getting their way for the last 30-40 years and looks like thats not ending anytime soon. Common people in Pakistan don't know how to stand up for their rights or other's rights. Completly cynical.

 

[Bewal Express]

Forget army, isi or any foreign governments. Moulvis reign supreme in this country they've been getting their way for the last 30-40 years and looks like thats not ending anytime soon. Common people in Pakistan don't know how to stand up for their rights or other's rights. Completly cynical.

How do we change it without a civil war?

 

[MABA]

Forget army, isi or any foreign governments. Moulvis reign supreme in this country they've been getting their way for the last 30-40 years and looks like thats not ending anytime soon. Common people in Pakistan don't know how to stand up for their rights or other's rights. Completly cynical.

These mullahs need to be crushed. No matter what happens you need to set an example.

 

[Bewal Express]

These mullahs need to be crushed. No matter what happens you need to set an example.

Bar the Millitary no one can do it.

 

[troodon]

So the unrest has been postponed. A minor victory for religious lunatics. Now they will gain confidence from this.
If Pak army can handle TTP, then these mullahs should be lot more easier right?

 

[Bewal Express]

So the unrest has been postponed. A minor victory for religious lunatics. Now they will gain confidence from this.
If Pak army can handle TTP, then these mullahs should be lot more easier right?

The battle with the TTP was in the hills and mountain's. This would be unrest in urban areas where innocent people would also be caught up. The answer is to use intelligence and pick up the leaders and charge with sedition.

 

[RickyG]

I can’t disagree with the damage these buffoons have done but the prevention of civil war is def a positive.

You can't spin it any other way. You can't compromise on principles. You can't let people throw tantrums like little kids and then let them have their way. What these people did to get their way was raise hell and instead of punishing them Imran Khan has rewarded them.

Abraham Lincoln risked a civil war by doing the right thing. Then he fought the civil war and won. The country was better for it.

Imran Khan has failed on this. He has failed and he has failed you.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You can't spin it any other way. You can't compromise on principles. You can't let people throw tantrums like little kids and then let them have their way. What these people did to get their way was raise hell and instead of punishing them Imran Khan has rewarded them.

Abraham Lincoln risked a civil war by doing the right thing. Then he fought the civil war and won. The country was better for it.

Imran Khan has failed on this. He has failed and he has failed you.

I see it differently. They planned a much longer disturbance but didn't last a week. After Imran's address to the nation, they realised this man has the support of the majority of the population so decided to stop their hooliganism. Nothing will happen again after this.

 

[MABA]

The battle with the TTP was in the hills and mountain's. This would be unrest in urban areas where innocent people would also be caught up. The answer is to use intelligence and pick up the leaders and charge with sedition.

The Taliban were battle hardened, a lot of these people just show up to the protests because they have nothing better to do with their lives. Show them the power of the military and they will not bother showing up again. Its because they know that there are no consequences that they come time and time again.

 

[Sunny786]

I can't believe Imran Khan gave in after making that speech. How hard can it be to stop these religious fanatics from protesting? They are destroying their own country in the name of religion and are criminals who should be put in jail.

 

[s28]

How do we change it without a civil war?

All of these people who seem to want a Civil War will be the ones who will be hiding from the front lines.

LOL talk about keyboard warriors

 

[RickyG]

I see it differently. They planned a much longer disturbance but didn't last a week. After Imran's address to the nation, they realised this man has the support of the majority of the population so decided to stop their hooliganism. Nothing will happen again after this.

You may be right. But it's not the example to set. This will embolden the thugs further every time they don't get their way.

It also doesn't help perception. It comes across as IK appeasing a mob that deserves punishing. Let's see if there are any consequences for their actions. I'm worried that they're won't be.

I just don't want the poor woman to suffer any longer. As long as this does not delay the justice that Asia and her family are owed I can maybe live with it. If this is going to prolong her suffering then I will start viewing IK in a very different light unfortunately.

 

[RickyG]

All of these people who seem to want a Civil War will be the ones who will be hiding from the front lines.

LOL talk about keyboard warriors

All these people that cry about the power of Mullahs are the same ones that justify rewarding them for breaking the rule of law.

LOL talk about people with no principles and no spine.

 

[Bewal Express]

The ability to Compromise is normally a strength but sooner or later, the writ of the state has to be fully established. I think IK needs the ISI to start planning now for the next conflict because if he doesnt his authority will ne permanently damaged. I wonder if he feels he had the army with him after the statement by them today.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You may be right. But it's not the example to set. This will embolden the thugs further every time they don't get their way.

It also doesn't help perception. It comes across as IK appeasing a mob that deserves punishing. Let's see if there are any consequences for their actions. I'm worried that they're won't be.

I just don't want the poor woman to suffer any longer. As long as this does not delay the justice that Asia and her family are owed I can maybe live with it. If this is going to prolong her suffering then I will start viewing IK in a very different light unfortunately.

Its not an ideal situation, the best would be to lock up anyone who has broken the law but this is the political landscape Pakistan finds itself in. It all goes back to the War of Terror where those with extreme mindsets were able to influence others suggesting this is a war on Islam(which has some merit). IK diffused the situation, addressed the nation to clearly state they are wrong and the court decides. Pakistan needs to be stable for improvement, overall well handled by the PM imo.

 

[RickyG]

Its not an ideal situation, the best would be to lock up anyone who has broken the law but this is the political landscape Pakistan finds itself in. It all goes back to the War of Terror where those with extreme mindsets were able to influence others suggesting this is a war on Islam(which has some merit). IK diffused the situation, addressed the nation to clearly state they are wrong and the court decides. Pakistan needs to be stable for improvement, overall well handled by the PM imo.

It goes further back. It goes back to the pure creation of Pakistan, the sole identity of which was an Islamic state for Muslims. How can a Maulana not salivate at that prospect knowing he could gain some real power and influence. It was further reinforced during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. When Pakistan, USA, and Saudi used the Mullahs to spin it as a holy war. War on terror didn't help because Mushy was a spineless fool who had no morals.

I don't think he has diffused it. I think he has delayed it. That is what people in the past did. They delayed the inevitable and compromised and then paid a bigger price later.

If Imran Khan can empower the court and punish the religious leaders that led these disturbances then I'll see merit in that decision. But I just don't think it will happen. I really really hope I am wrong. His address to the nation was fine but his actions since are worrying.

 

[sjahmed23]

How do we change it without a civil war?

First thing would be to call spade a spade and say that these lunatics are a problem and the biggest threat to Pakistan's security and economy. Yes politicians are corrupt but these moulvis are thugs who want anarchy and can go to any lengths to have it their way, including asking people to assasinate judges and generals.

Launch a public smear campagn, find dirt, create dirt and show the public these people have dodgy motives and are not worth listening to then quietly start rounding them up and making them disappear. I thought ISI was good at that.

I hope this decision is an abberation and PTI and army have plans to deal with these lunatics.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It goes further back. It goes back to the pure creation of Pakistan, the sole identity of which was an Islamic state for Muslims. How can a Maulana not salivate at that prospect knowing he could gain some real power and influence. It was further reinforced during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. When Pakistan, USA, and Saudi used the Mullahs to spin it as a holy war. War on terror didn't help because Mushy was a spineless fool who had no morals.

I don't think he has diffused it. I think he has delayed it. That is what people in the past did. They delayed the inevitable and compromised and then paid a bigger price later.

If Imran Khan can empower the court and punish the religious leaders that led these disturbances then I'll see merit in that decision. But I just don't think it will happen. I really really hope I am wrong. His address to the nation was fine but his actions since are worrying.

There was no terrorism in Pakistan and extremism was a fringe element before the invasion of Pakistan. The CIA and others helped fuel this by employing their proxy mercenaries who then radicalised vulnerable people and paid other thugs to join them in order to destablise Pakistan. To assume some elements in Pakistan now aren't handled by outside agencies would be naive. Of course there are many who are just uneducated and extreme, looking for power themselves using religion but they are no real force in Pakistan. Fighting them with outright force would have only made things worse and gave them sympathy while the outside world would be quick to jump up and shout down Pakistan as no real democracy, IK puppet of army etc.

I haven't heard of a better suggestion than this deal.

 

[Bewal Express]

First thing would be to call spade a spade and say that these lunatics are a problem and the biggest threat to Pakistan's security and economy. Yes politicians are corrupt but these moulvis are thugs who want anarchy and can go to any lengths to have it their way, including asking people to assasinate judges and generals.

Launch a public smear campagn, find dirt, create dirt and show the public these people have dodgy motives and are not worth listening to then quietly start rounding them up and making them disappear. I thought ISI was good at that.

I hope this decision is an abberation and PTI and army have plans to deal with these lunatics.

There is a lack of trust amongst the institutions to truely develop a consensus on how to deal with these thugs. The SC seems to have a guy at the top who wants to be top of the pops too often, the army blows hot and cold and the opposition is just desperate to get a free pass for their corruption. The ISI must go back to its role of protecting the state and IK needs its heads in to talk quietly but firmly.

 

[sjahmed23]

There is a lack of trust amongst the institutions to truely develop a consensus on how to deal with these thugs. The SC seems to have a guy at the top who wants to be top of the pops too often, the army blows hot and cold and the opposition is just desperate to get a free pass for their corruption. The ISI must go back to its role of protecting the state and IK needs its heads in to talk quietly but firmly.

I think it's more like addressing the elephant in the room like situation. Everyone is afraid of turning into the next syria so they rather not take any action. But if nothing is done then forget foreign investment, soon America and west are going to put sanctions on Pak for its nukes.

 

[Bewal Express]

There was no terrorism in Pakistan and extremism was a fringe element before the invasion of Pakistan. The CIA and others helped fuel this by employing their proxy mercenaries who then radicalised vulnerable people and paid other thugs to join them in order to destablise Pakistan. To assume some elements in Pakistan now aren't handled by outside agencies would be naive. Of course there are many who are just uneducated and extreme, looking for power themselves using religion but they are no real force in Pakistan. Fighting them with outright force would have only made things worse and gave them sympathy while the outside world would be quick to jump up and shout down Pakistan as no real democracy, IK puppet of army etc.

I haven't heard of a better suggestion than this deal.

We can blame the Foreign agencies as much as we like but the Maulvis want power to get their hands on the wonga. IK has a weak govt and didn't want to lose power so quickly because the opposition is just desperate to get a free pass for its corruption and any loss of life would have been used. But sooner or later we have to realise that the Maulvis represent a big threat to PK as the RAW or CIA and no amount of suger coating will make that fact go away. He has lived to fight to another day but a new battle is around the corner.

 

[DRsohail]

The ability to Compromise is normally a strength but sooner or later, the writ of the state has to be fully established. I think IK needs the ISI to start planning now for the next conflict because if he doesnt his authority will ne permanently damaged. I wonder if he feels he had the army with him after the statement by them today.

Firs of all IK needs to bring Army and ISI with him i eman on same page.i dont think so Army is ready tot ake actions against TLP and i hope you know the reasons.

 

[InziRules]

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION], [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Looks like the fake news is true again


U-Turn strikes again

 

[gazza619]

My opinion is that putting her name on ECL is not a bad thing. Consider if she leaves the country, foreign elements would use her against Pakistan. I can imagine her being on CNN, BBC, every other show, Times magazine, noble peace prize candidate etc. She would be an anti pakistan machine just how Malala and her father have turned out to be.

For me Pakistan comes first, then comes freedom of speech, then comes everything else.

 

[Savak]

These Mullah's and Fanatics make me sick, where is all this outrage when the politicians and generals loot, plunder the country with impunity?

 

[InziRules]

[MENTION=137997]Abdullah[/MENTION]619, not to say I told you so, but I told you so. This is the modus operandi of most governments. Leak their position, see reaction, then go ahead with it

 

[Bewal Express]

Firs of all IK needs to bring Army and ISI with him i eman on same page.i dont think so Army is ready tot ake actions against TLP and i hope you know the reasons.

Lets see but the writ of the state needs to be established. The TLP may or may not be ISI's creation but if they are then its left the army with egg on its face because of the abuse of Bajwa by Rizvi and co. The army never trusted NS or AZ and subsequent revelations have shown that they were right but if they dont trust IK either, then i am not sure whats next.

 

[Bewal Express]

[MENTION=137997]Abdullah[/MENTION]619, not to say I told you so, but I told you so. This is the modus operandi of most governments. Leak their position, see reaction, then go ahead with it

From a legal point of view- they have a right to review and it would be pointless if she left the country.

 

[InziRules]

Lets see but the writ of the state needs to be established. The TLP may or may not be ISI's creation but if they are then its left the army with egg on its face because of the abuse of Bajwa by Rizvi and co. The army never trusted NS or AZ and subsequent revelations have shown that they were right but if they dont trust IK either, then i am not sure whats next.

The Army is now bad for PTI but when they did this with NS, they were good. Nice to see

 

[InziRules]

From a legal point of view- they have a right to review and it would be pointless if she left the country.

That is not how this works.

If this was not a blasphemy case, and she wanted to leave, no one would have put her on the ECL. Imran can talk, but that's all he can do. As usual

 

[Bewal Express]

These Mullah's and Fanatics make me sick, where is all this outrage when the politicians and generals loot, plunder the country with impunity?

Its because the loot is shared with these losers.

 

[DRsohail]

Its because the loot is shared with these losers.

Lolz cracking one from Bewal express.

 

[Bewal Express]

The Army is now bad for PTI but when they did this with NS, they were good. Nice to see

The duffer is a crook that no one could trust and still doesnt. Would the army share its secrets with crook, remember what Haqqani did under AZ. I dont know if the army is bad but we will see, it may that IK wanted the compromise and not the Army.

 

[Bewal Express]

That is not how this works.

If this was not a blasphemy case, and she wanted to leave, no one would have put her on the ECL. Imran can talk, but that's all he can do. As usual

Agreed, but the alternative was a civil war.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

My opinion is that putting her name on ECL is not a bad thing. Consider if she leaves the country, foreign elements would use her against Pakistan. I can imagine her being on CNN, BBC, every other show, Times magazine, noble peace prize candidate etc. She would be an anti pakistan machine just how Malala and her father have turned out to be.

For me Pakistan comes first, then comes freedom of speech, then comes everything else.

Makes me wonder what exactly IS Pakistan?

 

[DeadBall]

Don't want to add anything to this topic. Just refer to my avatar. Thanks.

 

[InziRules]

Agreed, but the alternative was a civil war.

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There was never a chance of civil war.

 

[shortbread]

The mullah brigade is groomed and put to use by the powers above when it suits them. These guys will never be exterminated.

Tomorrow when it's time for PTI to be pushed out, the same mob will be put to use by men in uniform. Then the cycle starts all over again!

 

[Bewal Express]

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There was never a chance of civil war.

What would you call it if a large proportion of the population doesnt accept the writ of the state.

 

[DeadBall]

Agreed, but the alternative was a civil war.

Kuch zyaada ho gaya. These are just some faarigh laaton kai bhooth, give them some danda and they will come back to their auqaat.

 

[DeadBall]

What would you call it if a large proportion of the population doesnt accept the writ of the state.

Wasn't a large proportion of the population by any stretch of the imagination. Just some illiterate, brainwashed, rouge minority.

 

[Minnowbasher]

Govt is too weak atm. Even ppp govt was stronger.

 

[Bewal Express]

Kuch zyaada ho gaya. These are just some faarigh laaton kai bhooth, give them some danda and they will come back to their auqaat.

If only it was that easy. I think you need to use intelligence and danda, if you try to use danda on its own, you will get chaos.

 

[Bewal Express]

Govt is too weak atm. Even ppp govt was stronger.

Thats because they wanted to loot and didnt mind if others also did it. In that sense they were very fair

 

[saeedhk]

Massive loss to property. Have you been watching the videos?

 

[DeadBall]

If only it was that easy. I think you need to use intelligence and danda, if you try to use danda on its own, you will get chaos.

A bit of chaos sure, but if that is only the language they understand then so be it. It would be a different matter if the majority were out on the streets but these are just a minority and with correct balance of danda and explanation (to the masses) can be easily managed.

 

[saeedhk]

PTI-led government has turned put to be terribly spineless. What was the use of Imran Khan’s speech if he had to go back on everything he said.

 

[InziRules]

PTI government assures TLP that Asia will be punished in secret passages

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">حکومت اور حساس اداروں (فوج) نے ہمیں گارنٹی دی ہے آسیہ بی بی کی سزا بحال کروائے گے <br>پیر افضل قادری کی پریس کانفرنس<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AsiaBibi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AsiaBibi</a> <a href="https://t.co/YnBHtLlOuC">pic.twitter.com/YnBHtLlOuC</a></p>— A W B (@WaqarBibi) <a href="https://twitter.com/WaqarBibi/status/1058439104256503808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pir Afzal Qadri TLP says Govt has guaranteed Aasiya Bibi sentence will be restored. Says, some agreements are part of written document some are not (hidden). Calls Fed Info Min an irresponsible person.<br><br>How can Govt assure this? What are hidden assurances? <a href="https://twitter.com/fawadchaudhry?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@fawadchaudhry</a></p>— Gharidah Farooqi (@GFarooqi) <a href="https://twitter.com/GFarooqi/status/1058434723050123264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Thoughts?
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

 

[KingKhanWC]

Where is the official statement from the government?

 

[InziRules]

Where is the official statement from the government?

Sorry, but we don't trust the government. I hope they get jailed, just like you people did

 

[KingKhanWC]

Sorry, but we don't trust the government. I hope they get jailed, just like you people did

If government has made this deal, where is their official confirmation? I dont understand the second part.

 

[Gollum]

I think this 'agreement' is signed to pacify these fools and nothing will come off it. It's a good step done by the government to pour water on the fire. I hope in the short term they will charge and prosecute the mobs who destroyed public and private property. In the medium term they should ban and break up the TLP (where are you ISI?) as it's becoming a very dangerous threat to the state.

 

[adil_909]

Next time India or USA or any other country accuses us of being under writ of militancy, not sure how any Pakistani can deny it now. Another shameful episode in the country's history. Bunch of thugs brought the supposedly progressive government to its knees. I miss Musharraf so bad, if only he would stepped down and found a way to transition power prior to 2007 debacle, but no he let power get to his head.

 

[sjahmed23]

This whole episode is like the salem witch trails. Sad that Pakistan is stuck in dark ages. This thing will be a dark part of history but eventually Pak will come out of it though it may take a few hundred years...

 

[Buffet]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ani-government-vows-to-stop-asia-bibi-leaving

Pakistan’s government has been accused of signing the “death warrant” of Asia Bibi after it said it would begin the process of preventing her leaving the country.

Bibi, a Christian farm labourer, was acquitted of blasphemy on Wednesday. She had spent eight years on death row after she drank from the same cup as a Muslim, prompting false allegations that she insulted the prophet Muhammad.

The ruling Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) administration signed an agreement with the anti-blasphemy group Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) on Friday night, giving in to many of its demands in the face of massive, countrywide protests calling for Bibi to be put to death.

In a document signed by the PTI’s religious affairs minister and the TLP’s second-in-command, Pir Afzal Qadri, the government promised not to oppose a court petition to reverse Bibi’s release. It also pledged to work in the meantime to put her name on the exit control list (ECL) which would prevent her leaving the country.

“Placing Asia Bibi on the ECL is like signing her death warrant,” said Wilson Chowdhry of the British Pakistani Christian Association. Bibi, a mother of five, remains in the same prison where last month two men tried to kill her, although she has been shifted out of her windowless cell.

The agreement was a “historic capitulation”, tweeted analyst Mosharraf Zaidi. On Wednesday night, the prime minister and leader of the PTI, Imran Khan, defended the verdict acquitting Bibi and suggested the government would clamp down on protesters it termed “enemies of the state”.

The TLP has agreed to call off its protests, which saw thousands of Islamists blockade the country’s major motorways, burning cars and lorries and chanting that they were ready to die to protect the honour of the prophet.

Meanwhile, the government has promised to free any TLP workers arrested during the three-day protest. The group has only apologised for the damage it caused, the cost of which one government official estimated at $1.2bn (£900m).

Afzal Qadri told the Guardian “the government has almost accepted our maximum demands” and that if it backtracked “we can come [out on the streets] again”.

Islamists poured on to the streets after Friday prayers in a show of force that briefly unified extremist groups from the majority Barelvi sect, which the TLP springs from, and the more traditionally hardline Deobandis. Terrorist-linked outfits including Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat held rallies in Islamabad, alleging that the EU had pressurised the government into releasing Bibi.

While the protests were ongoing, unknown assailants stabbed Sami ul Haq – the leader of the Haqqania madrasa known as the “father of the Taliban” – to death in his own home.

The spokesperson for Pakistan’s army, Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor, said that the military’s chief condemned the assassination and expressed “grief and condolences” for the ul Haq family. Earlier in the day, Ghafoor released a statement about the protests which avoided criticising the TLP, despite its leaders calling for soldiers to mutiny.

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I thought IK was not a hardliner. Am I missing something here?

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: Aasia Bibi’s lawyer Saiful Malook left Pakistan early Saturday morning fearing for his safety.

Malook claims he is facing threats from sections of lawyers and it is difficult for him to practice in the prevailing situation.

Talking to The Express Tribune, Malook, however, clarified that he would return to Pakistan to represent Aasia at hearing of the review petition if the army provided him security.

“My family is also facing immense security threat and the federal government should provide security to them,” he added.

Full text of Supreme Court’s judgement in Aasia Bibi case

Meanwhile, complainant Qari Muhammad Saalam has requested the Supreme Court for the early hearing of a review petition against its October 31 order to acquit Aasia Bibi, a Christian woman who was booked for blasphemy in 2009.

Filing an early hearing plea, Saalam said Aasia is planning to leave the country and an application has already been filed to place her name on the Exit Control List (ECL). In case this review petition is not fixed, he said, the application/petition shall suffer an irreparable loss and injury.

It is learnt that the review petition, which was filed in SC Lahore registry, has been transferred to Islamabad registry where all judges are sitting. A number has also been allotted to the review petition.

Legal team of the petitioner expects that the review petition may be fixed the next week. However, review petitions are very rarely heard so soon. Several “lacunas and factual legal contradictions” have been raised in the review petition filed through Ghulam Mustafa Chaudhry and Azhar Siddique.

Highlighting “inordinate delay, defective investigation and other technicalities” in the review petition, he has asked whether these should be made hurdles in dispensation of justice although the SC was bound to take into consideration the nature of the case and the test which were especially applicable to a normal case in view of the application of blasphemy laws read with judgements of the superior courts.

The petitioner has also asked whether the country’s top court had jurisdiction to overrule a peculiar fact like the confessional statement of Bibi. Pointing out the shortcomings, Salaam has asked whether the SC, acquitting Aasia, met the standards of jurisprudence set in this regard in view of the history as well as Islamic provisions and normal principle of justice with reference to application in blasphemy laws.

The petition also sought if the SC had taken into consideration inclusion of members of the Appellate Shariat Court in its bench, adding that the matter needed detailed consideration due to the peculiar circumstances of the case as well as application of Section 295-C in its time letter and spirit.

The complainant said the SC did not interpret the provisions of Code of Criminal Procedure 1898 read with Section 295-C of Pakistan Penal Code as well as Article 25 of the Constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan 1973 while passing the judgement.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1839669/1-aasia-bibis-lawyer-leaves-country/

 

[Something]

This is absolutely pathetic from PTI. Shows how fragile they really are.

Welcome to naya pakistan where one an appeal a supreme court decision and even if you're acquitted you're put on the ECL. Is this the justice that tehreek e insaaf has been promising?

 

[Mamoon]

And we were asked to apologize for believing in the “fake” news. So who is going to apologize now?

You have to feel sorry for PTI supporters. They will defend literally anything and will fall over each other to justify the U-turns.

If their leader goes from A to B and B to C 10 times in a minute, they will defend him 10 times.

PTI supporters have completely lost the ability to think critically and differentiate between right and wrong - the only thing that matters to them is what their supreme leader says.

First Atif Mian and now this. This is only the beginning - our PM can not withstand pressure from the right wing and caves in easily.

PTI government’s jelly spine is simply giving more power and influence to these forces.

However, what did they expect? They used these elements to come into power and the chickens had to come home to roost.

This is a clueless government and their inexperience is showing, but it is all good as long as Imran is not corrupt. That is the depth of their thinking and that is how shallow their understanding is.

Bending backwards to appease extremists will do a lot more damage in the long run than corruption.

This is yet another defeat for Pakistan and it’s quest to progress as a nation. In only a matter of few months, we have lost one of the leading economists in the world and are hesitant to give justice to an innocent woman because a group of people with archaic mindsets are unhappy.

PTI and their supporters deserve this humiliation, but it is the country on the whole that will suffer in the long run.

Welcome to Naya Pakistan - a Pakistan where the government does not have the guts to impose itself, eradicate extremism, and persist with its decision.

This is a reality check for the party and its supporters. Riding a cart looks easy until you are the one holding the reigns.

Taking over the capital with containers and hurling insults and abuses was a lot easier than running the government and showing how it’s done.

 

[Mamoon]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ani-government-vows-to-stop-asia-bibi-leaving

Pakistan’s government has been accused of signing the “death warrant” of Asia Bibi after it said it would begin the process of preventing her leaving the country.

Bibi, a Christian farm labourer, was acquitted of blasphemy on Wednesday. She had spent eight years on death row after she drank from the same cup as a Muslim, prompting false allegations that she insulted the prophet Muhammad.

The ruling Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) administration signed an agreement with the anti-blasphemy group Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) on Friday night, giving in to many of its demands in the face of massive, countrywide protests calling for Bibi to be put to death.

In a document signed by the PTI’s religious affairs minister and the TLP’s second-in-command, Pir Afzal Qadri, the government promised not to oppose a court petition to reverse Bibi’s release. It also pledged to work in the meantime to put her name on the exit control list (ECL) which would prevent her leaving the country.

“Placing Asia Bibi on the ECL is like signing her death warrant,” said Wilson Chowdhry of the British Pakistani Christian Association. Bibi, a mother of five, remains in the same prison where last month two men tried to kill her, although she has been shifted out of her windowless cell.

The agreement was a “historic capitulation”, tweeted analyst Mosharraf Zaidi. On Wednesday night, the prime minister and leader of the PTI, Imran Khan, defended the verdict acquitting Bibi and suggested the government would clamp down on protesters it termed “enemies of the state”.

The TLP has agreed to call off its protests, which saw thousands of Islamists blockade the country’s major motorways, burning cars and lorries and chanting that they were ready to die to protect the honour of the prophet.

Meanwhile, the government has promised to free any TLP workers arrested during the three-day protest. The group has only apologised for the damage it caused, the cost of which one government official estimated at $1.2bn (£900m).

Afzal Qadri told the Guardian “the government has almost accepted our maximum demands” and that if it backtracked “we can come [out on the streets] again”.

Islamists poured on to the streets after Friday prayers in a show of force that briefly unified extremist groups from the majority Barelvi sect, which the TLP springs from, and the more traditionally hardline Deobandis. Terrorist-linked outfits including Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat held rallies in Islamabad, alleging that the EU had pressurised the government into releasing Bibi.

While the protests were ongoing, unknown assailants stabbed Sami ul Haq – the leader of the Haqqania madrasa known as the “father of the Taliban” – to death in his own home.

The spokesperson for Pakistan’s army, Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor, said that the military’s chief condemned the assassination and expressed “grief and condolences” for the ul Haq family. Earlier in the day, Ghafoor released a statement about the protests which avoided criticising the TLP, despite its leaders calling for soldiers to mutiny.

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I thought IK was not a hardliner. Am I missing something here?

Throughout his political career, he has bent over backwards to accommodate the sentiments of the extremists.

When the whole country had enough of their brutality, he was the only one advocating for “peace talks”, before he finally woke up and realized that these factions are beyond that.

However, later on, he used these factions to come into power, and now after a fake speech, he has caved in yet again.

 

[MenInG]

 

[MenInG]

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Let them also face their day in court.

 

[InziRules]

Asia's lawyer now out of the country, so no one will fight her case. So that's her death warrant signed by Imran Khan.

 

[Major]

Finally i could say that thank god i dint waste my vote on this pathetic ruling party.

Once again these people have destroyed our country.

Salman Taseer gave up his life for defending something that was right. While the PM cant even risk his seat and would rather place an innocent women in jail for 10 more years just so that he could enjoy being the PM

 

[Major]

Thats because they wanted to loot and didnt mind if others also did it. In that sense they were very fair

oh forgods sake stop.


Salman Taseer gave his life for an innocent women.

You lot just do not care that an innocent women was placed in 8 years in jail and now has to live in this country while her life is a threat.

All imran cares about having the PM seat and its powers.

 

[Major]

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION], [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Looks like the fake news is true again


U-Turn strikes again

exactly.

Now look at how berewal express and syed will defend this.

Apologies? knowing this govt, knew it that they would do anything to please the lunatics and do wrong to the innocent.