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Haris Sohail and Shoaib Malik a must for the T20 World Cup

Our order is not performing - Malik is not good but he is better tha haider - haider is just not good enough

It's not performing because our top order did most of the batting and Hafeez played a bat shot in the final game.
It's not performing because Haider Ali is too raw and Asif does not belong at that level.
But for those two you don't need to go back to an old player with a 120 strike rate who has been failing of late. Especially when you have two guys who can slot in there (Imad and Shadab)
 
We already have a top six for T20's

Why is this a debate??

Here are 7,


Sharjeel
Rizwan
Fakhar
Babar
Hafeez
Imad
Shadab

Then you still have Faheem & Nawab and of course Hasan Ali who can slog a few sixes.

Where does Malik fit into it?

Imad Shadab lol
 
But then you must not complain when we go at 8 runs per over and finally end up on 170 odd on a flat track.

No one should complain about strike rates when you have three or four guys playing a similar role.

No one should harp on about playing the modern game when you have a player from the bygone era sitting in your middle order

You still aren't suggesting a solution. Yes, everyone would agree that a more aggressive player is needed much more than Malik is. There is no such international standard player in Pakistan though.

You might want 200+ scores but Asif and Khushdil aren't going to get you that i assure you.
 
Fakhar, Babar, Rizwan. Those are three players. Who comes after that? If Pakistan has so many "good players" and "domestic performers" like you mention, where are the performances from these so-called "good players"? In our playing XI, we have about 5 opening batsmen (Hafeez, Babar, Rizwan, Fakhar, Haider), so where are these so-called domestic performers? Are they just hiding somewhere?

Iftikhar Ahmed - Given ample opportunities, apart from the innings in Australia he failed to do anything. Even his T20 credentials don't suggest that he has any experience in the hitting department.

Khushdil Shah - Need I say more than him being a leg-side hack. He couldn't get Zimbabwe's bowlers away when they bowled on the off-side, and you think he'll survive against someone like Bumrah?

Hussain Talat - Arguably what a lot of our fans describe as "talented", but what did we see, the repeated inability to play spin properly.

Haider Ali - Another in the long list of leg-side hacks, anything on leg-stump is his sign to go back to the pavilion. Not fit for international cricket.

Asif Ali - Our prized hitter who has a strike rate in the 120s. If this were the 1980s, that strike rate would be acceptable for a hard-hitting batsman, but I've seen Misbah play faster knocks in test cricket than Asif in limited overs.

No disrespect to any of the players, they all tried their best to make ends meet but they couldn't.

Additionally, if you read my post, you would have understood what I meant but I shall repeat myself nonetheless:

Do we have 5-7 years before the next World Cup? The obvious answer, no we do not. We barely have about 6 months to go.

You can keep bringing Malik and Hafeez's stats up in their first 50 innings but it won't justify your point neither will it justify the context of this thread being the upcoming T20 World Cup. If I were talking about giving players chances to grow and develop, your point would be valid but try to look at it from the context of the T20 World Cup as opposed to developing these talentless players.

Secondly, bringing in domestic players not selected for the test team doesn't help your point either, it only makes your argument more confusing. If there are so many domestic performers in the T20 circuit, it would have been so easy for you to name some of them, instead, you name the players who weren't selected in test cricket.

If you were following the SAF series, you would have understood what became our undoing. The inability to play spin. Ironically, we're the only Asian side that can't even play off-spin properly, much less any other type of spin. Shamsi was stat-padding against our incompetent middle-order batsmen, none of whom learned anything from each of the innings they played on that tour.

Furthermore, one can even check PSL statistics to see that only Haider trumped Malik in terms of runs and a strike rate, but when it came to playing spin, he flopped against Shamsi yet again. He's probably Shamsi's bunny now, just a walking wicket.

From a bowling perspective as well, neither of the players above apart from Iftikhar contribute with the ball. Malik can be a reliable bowling option of one or two overs are needed given how frequently our express pacers are being bashed around the park. He has bowled on the international scene and hasn't been that horrible, so it wouldn't be a bad call from that perspective as well.

Furthermore, and perhaps the most glaring piece of information, Malik is a world-class player of spin. You can ask experts, past players, and even analysts, and the stats back it up. Malik is world-class against spin, and that's where our team is failing consistently right now.

Malik deserves a chance ahead of the likes of Haider Ali, Iftikhar Ahmed, Hussain Talat, and Khushdil Shah.

There is one player whose selection I did call for, in case you didn't read that part. It was Sohaib Maqsood.

He should be given a chance out of sympathy given how poorly everyone else brought in for that role performed.

No hard feelings.

Thanks. Now you’re saying Pakistan has talent in opening positions but not in Middle order, which is more nuanced than saying Pakistan doesn’t have batting talent.
Almost all teams are struggling to find MO batsmen for T20s including India, NZ, SA and Aus. India has tried 15 MO batsmen since Apr 2016. T20 has increasingly become a top order batsmen’s game due to just 20 overs and flat wickets. MO batsmen hardly get a chance to get in. We need to be super patient with new MO batsmen in developing them.
In addition, Pak has not tried the right horses and when they did, they didn’t play them in the their rightful roles. Here’s my perspective on these players you mentioned:

Iftikhar: He got his domestic runs as top order batsman. He was never and still isn’t a MO batsman. Failed experiment.

Khusdil Shah: his list A domestic stats suggest he’s suited to ODI. Domestic T20 stats are underwhelming. But he only got 1 ODI game and was discarded. He plays 2 down in domestic and he takes his time to get going. Another Failed experiment for “hitter” role in T20s. He’s a proper batsman not hitter.

Asif Ali: Asif Ali has actually performed to his domestic potential but his potential wasn’t a lot to start with. He’s averaging 30 in list A with SR of 115. In ODIs, his averaging 26 with a SR of 120. So pretty close. The same situation in T20s.

Haider Ali/Danish Aziz/Abdullah Shafique: too soon to debut! Batting versions of Naseem shah. Don’t judge them. Send them to FC to plays at least 2 seasons. Look at Gill, Shaw etc. all playing domestic.

MO options that need more games for 5/6 role

T20s:
Sohaib Maqsood and Hussain Talat. If you’re playing Khusdhil, play him at no 4.

ODIs:
Khusdil and Saud in ODIs for 4/5/6.
 
Sohaib Maqsood should be a given a run in the T20 middle order. He was in decent touch during the PSL, but also had a solid domestic season

I agree and also Umar Amin. Both of them should be back I believe.

For the ODIs, the pool of middle order should be from the following

Haris Sohail
Saud Shakeel
Haider Ali
Umar Amin
Sohaib Maqsood

Asif , danish should be replaced
 
Thanks. Now youÂ’re saying Pakistan has talent in opening positions but not in Middle order, which is more nuanced than saying Pakistan doesnÂ’t have batting talent.
Almost all teams are struggling to find MO batsmen for T20s including India, NZ, SA and Aus. India has tried 15 MO batsmen since Apr 2016. T20 has increasingly become a top order batsmenÂ’s game due to just 20 overs and flat wickets. MO batsmen hardly get a chance to get in. We need to be super patient with new MO batsmen in developing them.
In addition, Pak has not tried the right horses and when they did, they didnÂ’t play them in the their rightful roles. HereÂ’s my perspective on these players you mentioned:

Iftikhar: He got his domestic runs as top order batsman. He was never and still isnÂ’t a MO batsman. Failed experiment.

Khusdil Shah: his list A domestic stats suggest he’s suited to ODI. Domestic T20 stats are underwhelming. But he only got 1 ODI game and was discarded. He plays 2 down in domestic and he takes his time to get going. Another Failed experiment for “hitter” role in T20s. He’s a proper batsman not hitter.

Asif Ali: Asif Ali has actually performed to his domestic potential but his potential wasnÂ’t a lot to start with. HeÂ’s averaging 30 in list A with SR of 115. In ODIs, his averaging 26 with a SR of 120. So pretty close. The same situation in T20s.

Haider Ali/Danish Aziz/Abdullah Shafique: too soon to debut! Batting versions of Naseem shah. DonÂ’t judge them. Send them to FC to plays at least 2 seasons. Look at Gill, Shaw etc. all playing domestic.

MO options that need more games for 5/6 role

T20s:
Sohaib Maqsood and Hussain Talat. If youÂ’re playing Khusdhil, play him at no 4.

ODIs:
Khusdil and Saud in ODIs for 4/5/6.

Khushdil failed in the PSL and failed in the National T20 Cup apart from that 100 he hit. He is mediocre, a leg-side hack who rightfully got exposed at the international level. I don't think he can even be associated with being a hitter or middle-order batsman, bowl outside off-stump and he's practically a tailender.

Not much to say about Sohaib given that he hasn't been tried on the international level, but he wasn't too shabby in the PSL either, so he's a fair selection.

Again, Hussain Talat neither has the PSL performances, nor domestic stats to suggest that he can accelerate when it's needed. A strike rate of 123 doesn't really signal that the guy can start bashing the ball at will, but from the factor of age and future, maybe he can be considered.

I won't bother speaking about ODI as the subject of the thread is T20 World Cup.

Despite the options you've given, only Sohaib really seems like he's deserving of a call-up. Khushdil doesn't deserve a call-up, and Hussain Talat would be very lucky to get called up as well.

My prediction is that we'll see Malik in Pakistan colors very soon, and hopefully he ends his career on a high by performing at the big stage.
 
Khushdil failed in the PSL and failed in the National T20 Cup apart from that 100 he hit. He is mediocre, a leg-side hack who rightfully got exposed at the international level. I don't think he can even be associated with being a hitter or middle-order batsman, bowl outside off-stump and he's practically a tailender.

Not much to say about Sohaib given that he hasn't been tried on the international level, but he wasn't too shabby in the PSL either, so he's a fair selection.

Again, Hussain Talat neither has the PSL performances, nor domestic stats to suggest that he can accelerate when it's needed. A strike rate of 123 doesn't really signal that the guy can start bashing the ball at will, but from the factor of age and future, maybe he can be considered.

I won't bother speaking about ODI as the subject of the thread is T20 World Cup.

Despite the options you've given, only Sohaib really seems like he's deserving of a call-up. Khushdil doesn't deserve a call-up, and Hussain Talat would be very lucky to get called up as well.

My prediction is that we'll see Malik in Pakistan colors very soon, and hopefully he ends his career on a high by performing at the big stage.

Again, I would ignore Khusdhil stats in T20 no 6 slot. He’s no 4 slot ODI batsman and is probably adjusting to that role.

I don’t think you’re looking at the right data. Now let’s look at the three options currently on the table. I am going to look at their most recent form in the same format at the PSL 6 and National T20 cup 2021.

S Maqsood:
PSL 5 games : 45 average at 140 SR.
National T20 Cup 12 games: 32 average at 167 SR (3rd highest run getter)
Age: 34


S Malik:
PSL 5 games: 33 average at 119 SR
National T20 Cup 12 games: 39 average at 145 SR
Age: 40

Talat:
PSL 5 games: 25 average at 120 SR
National T20 Cup 12 games: 35 average at 150 SR
Age: 25

Based on the data, Sohaib Maqsood is miles ahead of S.Malik and should have been called up ahead of Danish Aziz and Talat. He’s my front runner for MO slot currently as mentioned in the post earlier.
Talat’s stats are comparable to Malik’s and he’s just 25 years of age vs Malik’s 40. I would groom Talat in the squad and give him games to be ready in the next 1-2 years. Talat also offers something with the ball.

Above all, I would be patient. MO is very tricky and unforgiving in T20s. You have to come in and score right off the bat. I would give them a long run of 20-30 games each to come good.

Malik has shown his ceiling which isn’t that high. He’s a bottler in ICC tournaments vs potent attacks as has been proven time and again. He’s also not going to offer anything in the future. But I do agree that he will be back in the squad given the limited vision PCB management generally tend to demonstrate
 
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Again, I would ignore Khusdhil stats in T20 no 6 slot. He’s no 4 slot ODI batsman and is probably adjusting to that role.

I don’t think you’re looking at the right data. Now let’s look at the three options currently on the table. I am going to look at their most recent form in the same format at the PSL 6 and National T20 cup 2021.

S Maqsood:
PSL 5 games : 45 average at 140 SR.
National T20 Cup 12 games: 32 average at 167 SR (3rd highest run getter)
Age: 34


S Malik:
PSL 5 games: 33 average at 119 SR
National T20 Cup 12 games: 39 average at 145 SR
Age: 40

Talat:
PSL 5 games: 25 average at 120 SR
National T20 Cup 12 games: 35 average at 150 SR
Age: 25

Based on the data, Sohaib Maqsood is miles ahead of S.Malik and should have been called up ahead of Danish Aziz and Talat. He’s my front runner for MO slot currently as mentioned in the post earlier.
Talat’s stats are comparable to Malik’s and he’s just 25 years of age vs Malik’s 40. I would groom Talat in the squad and give him games to be ready in the next 1-2 years. Talat also offers something with the ball.

Above all, I would be patient. MO is very tricky and unforgiving in T20s. You have to come in and score right off the bat. I would give them a long run of 20-30 games each to come good.

Malik has shown his ceiling which isn’t that high. He’s a bottler in ICC tournaments vs potent attacks as has been proven time and again. He’s also not going to offer anything in the future. But I do agree that he will be back in the squad given the limited vision PCB management generally tend to demonstrate

You make good points but still miss the point of my argument.

Right now, Malik is better than Talat. In the present moment, he is a better player than Hussain Talat is in T20s.

If Malik has stated that he is available and will retire after the T20 World Cup, it would be foolish to neglect him and instead go for Talat who failed against South Africa's B Team.

Nevertheless, I agree that Talat did not get enough opportunities at the international level, but based on international stats I think that Malik will be the better choice.

Talat's bowling is practically useless, has no control whatsoever. I'd take MS Dhoni's bowling ahead of Talat's bowling.

PCB is narrow-minded and incompetent, had Talat, Asif, Maqsood all been tried years ago with consistent opportunities, we would not have been in this situation at the moment.

The credibility of stats is also important, can we really rely on National T20 Cup stats to back up international performances? PSL stats are more defining because they put players against better bowling attacks.

So the real question just comes down to your own perspective on the issue: would you rather take Talat/Khushdil to the world cup and risk them failing thoroughly on the international level? Or would you go to someone who is past his prime, yet still a reliable figure in the middle order?

If it were up to me, I'd take Malik to the squad along with two of Maqsood/Haider/Talat/Khushdil. I wouldn't start Malik straight away, but if our middle order starts to struggle against spin in the World Cup, we'd have someone able to play that role if need be.
 
You make good points but still miss the point of my argument.

Right now, Malik is better than Talat. In the present moment, he is a better player than Hussain Talat is in T20s.

If Malik has stated that he is available and will retire after the T20 World Cup, it would be foolish to neglect him and instead go for Talat who failed against South Africa's B Team.

Nevertheless, I agree that Talat did not get enough opportunities at the international level, but based on international stats I think that Malik will be the better choice.

Talat's bowling is practically useless, has no control whatsoever. I'd take MS Dhoni's bowling ahead of Talat's bowling.

PCB is narrow-minded and incompetent, had Talat, Asif, Maqsood all been tried years ago with consistent opportunities, we would not have been in this situation at the moment.

The credibility of stats is also important, can we really rely on National T20 Cup stats to back up international performances? PSL stats are more defining because they put players against better bowling attacks.

So the real question just comes down to your own perspective on the issue: would you rather take Talat/Khushdil to the world cup and risk them failing thoroughly on the international level? Or would you go to someone who is past his prime, yet still a reliable figure in the middle order?

If it were up to me, I'd take Malik to the squad along with two of Maqsood/Haider/Talat/Khushdil. I wouldn't start Malik straight away, but if our middle order starts to struggle against spin in the World Cup, we'd have someone able to play that role if need be.

Whatever the standard of National T20 Cup, PSL, QEA Trophy, Pak CUP, it’s the same for every batsman, so conclusions can be drawn on the relative performance of players. This year almost all the international players were also there at the National T20 CUP due to COVID. Malik did not even outperformed Talat in National T20 so on what basis can we say his recent form is better than Talat at the international level?

The other important thing is that Talat did REALLY well in FC cricket last season as a MO batsman. He was averaging 88 with SR of 77 last season with 2 centuries and a high score of 253*. Sure it’s 4 day not T20, but anytime a batsman does well in the long format, it shows that the batsman has decent basics and technique. It also shows the player is composed and is hungry for runs
I can’t think of any Indian batsmen in recent times who made a debut for India and didn’t already do well in FC. The recent T20 sensation SuryaKumar Yadav, who just debuted for Indian T20 side, is 30 years old with LOADS of FC experience and done really well there averaging 45. If the basics are good, batsmen can develop and evolve much more easily. They’re following proper process and pathways, whereas we are stuck 90s mindset of “eyeballing” talent.

Also btw, Muhammad wasim said that Malik has demanded that he will only play if he is given the no4 slot and the Pak management is not aligned with that. It seems that even Malik isn’t even confident he can do well at 5/6 and wants to come higher up the order.
 
So it seems like the top 4 are kind of decided:

Babar
Rizwan
Fakhar
Hafeez

Even though I would have played Babar in the middle order but after that epic century it seems unlikely he would want to give up his slot.

For number 5 and 6, the options are Haider, Asif, Malik, Shadab, Imad, Ifti and Haris. None of these are match winning batsmen so for me it really doesnt matter who the management choses.

If we were to win the T20s it would be the top 4 batsmen who would be playing a vital role.
 
Whatever the standard of National T20 Cup, PSL, QEA Trophy, Pak CUP, itÂ’s the same for every batsman, so conclusions can be drawn on the relative performance of players. This year almost all the international players were also there at the National T20 CUP due to COVID. Malik did not even outperformed Talat in National T20 so on what basis can we say his recent form is better than Talat at the international level?

The other important thing is that Talat did REALLY well in FC cricket last season as a MO batsman. He was averaging 88 with SR of 77 last season with 2 centuries and a high score of 253*. Sure itÂ’s 4 day not T20, but anytime a batsman does well in the long format, it shows that the batsman has decent basics and technique. It also shows the player is composed and is hungry for runs
I can’t think of any Indian batsmen in recent times who made a debut for India and didn’t already do well in FC. The recent T20 sensation SuryaKumar Yadav, who just debuted for Indian T20 side, is 30 years old with LOADS of FC experience and done really well there averaging 45. If the basics are good, batsmen can develop and evolve much more easily. They’re following proper process and pathways, whereas we are stuck 90s mindset of “eyeballing” talent.

Also btw, Muhammad wasim said that Malik has demanded that he will only play if he is given the no4 slot and the Pak management is not aligned with that. It seems that even Malik isnÂ’t even confident he can do well at 5/6 and wants to come higher up the order.

Any player would want to choose their own position to bat, and Malik has served Pakistan Cricket enough to demand a spot on the team batting at a position he wants. However, given Hafeez's form at the moment, I don't think Malik will make the team at that position.

Malik's stats at 5 are quite commendable, and his stats batting in India are quite good as well with an SR of 140.

Hussain Talat couldn't play chinaman spin, like most others in our middle order. He had three opportunities in the series to showcase his ability to play spin and he failed in all three. I know that three opportunities are not enough, but in that middle order, we need people who can play all types of spin.

Comparing the likes of Suryakumar Yadav to Hussain Talat is not helpful because the Indian domestic system is more rigorous and more reliable. Their players have the confidence to perform at the international level. Put SKY in front of this South African team and he'd bash them to pieces.

At this point, the management will have to make a decision on Haider. His form has been atrocious, to say the least, has not contributed at all, and has repeated the same mistakes again and again.

Knowing the PCB, Malik will make it into the squad for the England series, and my guess is that Haider will get sent back to domestic.
 
So it seems like the top 4 are kind of decided:

Babar
Rizwan
Fakhar
Hafeez

Even though I would have played Babar in the middle order but after that epic century it seems unlikely he would want to give up his slot.

For number 5 and 6, the options are Haider, Asif, Malik, Shadab, Imad, Ifti and Haris. None of these are match winning batsmen so for me it really doesnt matter who the management choses.

If we were to win the T20s it would be the top 4 batsmen who would be playing a vital role.

So if the top four are performing, and you have two out the four that have shown the capability of batting through the entire innings than what is the need for two more of these types of players?

Afterall we're talking about T20 and not ODI's.
So the logical thing would be to pick a couple of bigger hitters there... maybe one or two allrounders.

They don't have to avgerage in the 30's just have good strike rates.
Imad is one of them and if Haider keeps failing then pick someone else like Shadab.

Absurd to go back to Malik... makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
We'd be the laughing stock of world cricket
 
You still aren't suggesting a solution. Yes, everyone would agree that a more aggressive player is needed much more than Malik is. There is no such international standard player in Pakistan though.

You might want 200+ scores but Asif and Khushdil aren't going to get you that i assure you.

I already have.
You're clearly missed my earlier posts
 
Pakistan have no specialist batters for no.5 and 6. The one's who are considered specialist for those positions have failed at international level. Malik can be an option but it's too big a risk to bring him back. I would go with Imad at 5 and Shadab at 6. Both of them have potential to be good lower order batters and they should be worked upon to improve their batting even more. I believe that Imad and Shadab are better option for those positions than everyone else that we have tried in those positions. Their bowling will be a bonus. I would go with the following line up in next series:

1- Rizwan
2- Babar
3- Fakhar
4- Hafeez
5- Imad
6- Shadab
7- Faheem/Nawaz
8- Hasan
9- Usman
10- Rauf
11- Shaheen
 
So if the top four are performing, and you have two out the four that have shown the capability of batting through the entire innings than what is the need for two more of these types of players?

Afterall we're talking about T20 and not ODI's.
So the logical thing would be to pick a couple of bigger hitters there... maybe one or two allrounders.

They don't have to avgerage in the 30's just have good strike rates.
Imad is one of them and if Haider keeps failing then pick someone else like Shadab.

Absurd to go back to Malik... makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
We'd be the laughing stock of world cricket
I agree with you. We can slot some hard hitting guys at 5 and 6. The problem though is that I have not seen any hard hitting at all from Asif or Haider. Not even in a blue moon.

You know with Malik he would give you a solid 20 ball 22. He is not a viable option as you said if we will be chasing big scores.
 
The case for Malik's return becoming stronger with every game. Time for us to realize that we simply can't have a decent chance at the World Cup with this middle-order.
 
I agree with you. We can slot some hard hitting guys at 5 and 6. The problem though is that I have not seen any hard hitting at all from Asif or Haider. Not even in a blue moon.

You know with Malik he would give you a solid 20 ball 22. He is not a viable option as you said if we will be chasing big scores.

I don't think Asif Ali is the way forward and the way Haider Ali keeps failing, he may have to warm the Bench too.

Imad would easily slot in to the number 6 position with the number 5 slot going to Haider Ali (if he finds his form) or to Shadab Khan.

To be honest I would rather we did not participate in the world cup than to have a 40 year old out of form has been in the squad let alone in the playing eleven.
 
With Malik, we might be able to win 1 or 2 games out of 4 but we are not going to win the T20 WC. So I'd it's better if we go to the WC without a player who is 40 years old & is useless.
 
I don't think Asif Ali is the way forward and the way Haider Ali keeps failing, he may have to warm the Bench too.

Imad would easily slot in to the number 6 position with the number 5 slot going to Haider Ali (if he finds his form) or to Shadab Khan.

To be honest I would rather we did not participate in the world cup than to have a 40 year old out of form has been in the squad let alone in the playing eleven.

So going into the WC with 2 specialist batsmen in the whole XI. WCGW?

I'm not sure why you keep repeating yourself throughout the thread. Your ideas are either to pack the side with bowling all rounders who can't build an innings or to destroy the Rizwan-Babar opening partnership to shoe in an overweight hack in Sharjeel. And you worry about Malik, a decorated t20 player with a great record against spin. He will turn Pak into a laughing stock and Sharjeel won't? Do me a favour.
 
Any player would want to choose their own position to bat, and Malik has served Pakistan Cricket enough to demand a spot on the team batting at a position he wants. However, given Hafeez's form at the moment, I don't think Malik will make the team at that position.

Malik's stats at 5 are quite commendable, and his stats batting in India are quite good as well with an SR of 140.

Hussain Talat couldn't play chinaman spin, like most others in our middle order. He had three opportunities in the series to showcase his ability to play spin and he failed in all three. I know that three opportunities are not enough, but in that middle order, we need people who can play all types of spin.

Comparing the likes of Suryakumar Yadav to Hussain Talat is not helpful because the Indian domestic system is more rigorous and more reliable. Their players have the confidence to perform at the international level. Put SKY in front of this South African team and he'd bash them to pieces.

At this point, the management will have to make a decision on Haider. His form has been atrocious, to say the least, has not contributed at all, and has repeated the same mistakes again and again.

Knowing the PCB, Malik will make it into the squad for the England series, and my guess is that Haider will get sent back to domestic.

3 chances in T20s are not enough and that precisely is the problem. We don't believe in process and mechanisms and impatience and short-term thinking are rampant. Pakistan should identify 1-2 MO order batsmen and then invest in them long-term, but currently there is a circus going on.
 
3 chances in T20s are not enough and that precisely is the problem. We don't believe in process and mechanisms and impatience and short-term thinking are rampant. Pakistan should identify 1-2 MO order batsmen and then invest in them long-term, but currently there is a circus going on.

I agree with Talat, but Haider has had enough chances in my opinion. He's had about 15 games now, and only performed in two. He's awful right now to say the least, and should be rightfully dropped from the squad. Sohaib Maqsood deserves a chance.
 
Sohaib Maqsood deserves a chance.

Maqsood was really good in last domestic season but, his success came in the top 3, 4. So unless he is given one of those numbers I am not sure how useful he will be, as he doesnt have the temperament for batting at no 5 or 6 as he has shown quite a few times.
 
So going into the WC with 2 specialist batsmen in the whole XI. WCGW?

I'm not sure why you keep repeating yourself throughout the thread. Your ideas are either to pack the side with bowling all rounders who can't build an innings or to destroy the Rizwan-Babar opening partnership to shoe in an overweight hack in Sharjeel. And you worry about Malik, a decorated t20 player with a great record against spin. He will turn Pak into a laughing stock and Sharjeel won't? Do me a favour.

You're not any making sense.
 
Can't believe some people have the gall say Malik doesn't deserve to be in the squad when guys like Asif Ali and Danish Aziz are taking his place.
 
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