Have you ever cheated in your life?

[big_gamer007]

I was reading one of the threads where some cricketer was accused of fixing and some guy posted he cheated in school so that got me thinking is cheating in school such a big thing to others as well?

I was under the impression everyone cheated in school/college atleast once in their lives.. Not the paying others money to pass or leak papers or something of that sort but copying your partners answers has others here done that or am I the only one on here? Was just wondering to get a perspective from others on this..

 

[Mamoon]

Bribing someone to pass exams is too extreme and hardly any does it, but leaking papers was quite common among FSc students back in my time, probably still is.

Cheating on the exam by asking a friend or looking over your shoulder is nothing though. Almost everyone has done it at some point, but it gets tougher and riskier after school, and nearly impossible in medical college.

 

[PakLFC]

Sure I have cheated. Most have lied to their parents when growing up like asking for money to buy or spend it on something they wouldn't agree with. Most have skipped class one time or another as well going to the theatre to watch the latest movie. I don't think most would cheat whilst setting any exam for fear of being disqualified. I never did that, copying someone else's work will ultimately be no benefit to you when the subject at hand is not understood.

 

[Justcrazy]

Yes , I cheated.

I used to write some difficult formulas on scale ( ruler )

 

[world cup captain]

I once cheated in the 3rd grade in Pindi for science, coincidentally my last year in Pakistani schools. I had recently bought a batman diary, him being my favorite at that point in time. I use it to copy down some of the notes for which I got busted for.

At the time, I was the joint class monitor along with the girl I had a crush on, which is even worse. The teacher saw my diary and I got busted which was the most embarrassing moment of my life. I'd never done anything like that before but after I was caught, I regretted it.

Fortunately but surprisingly, the teacher let me go. I didn't face any consequences except the fact that I didn't get the diary back. I still wonder to this day what she did with it.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

I've cheated a lot.....while playing gully cricket Whenever I used to stand in as an Umpire I would literally never give edges to keeper or runouts for my friends

I haven't cheated anyone in particular though nor have I ever committed a felony by law - makes me kinda of a boring person to be honest

However, during my A levels I would literally never go to class and play basketball all day long , screwed up my grades for the first year though

 

[Rayyman]

No I don't think so.

Maybe my ego won't let me remember.

 

[Abdul]

Many times, most recently today.

Don't know why I took accounting. It's mad hard.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Many times, most recently today.

Don't know why I took accounting. It's mad hard.

Really ?? Never really felt as such to be honest.

 

[Abdul]

Really ?? Never really felt as such to be honest.

It depends. Some people enjoy it, while others don't. Main portion of accounting is based on calculations and formulas. Mathematics just isn't my cup of tea. English, Law and psychology are my strongest academic suits.

By the way, are you an accountant by profession?

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

It depends. Some people enjoy it, while others don't. Main portion of accounting is based on calculations and formulas. Mathematics just isn't my cup of tea. English, Law and psychology are my strongest academic suits.

By the way, are you an accountant by profession?

By academics I am indeed a chartered accountant but I just wasn't really into the profession as being career defining for me, so a pursued a different path.

I don't really hate the accounting occupation but neither do I love it as well. It's somewhere in between for me. Let's just say it wasn't inspiring enough for me to pursue something full time.

From a very young age I was fascinated by the use of numbers and thoroughly, even to this day, believe that every single entity, quality, matter and other things included are governed by it one way or another

For this very reason my love with data analysis, Bayesian calculations and statistics are the building blocks of what I do right now - professionally (in my work and business) as well as an implementable hobby to things I love such as cricket and sports in general

I am assuming based on what you've written that you're a bit younger than me so as your senior let me just give you one solid piece of advice accumulated through my own life experience - don't let your education define of what you do in life rather use it to complement your goals, dreams and the things you aim for in future.

This is the life scematic I am following ever since I was 15 and for a guy who started with absolutely nothing it has worked for me, in a net positive, for the last decade or so...

It could apparently stop working tomorrow for but at least it gave me a good 10 years

 

[Slog]

funnily enough ive only ever cheated once as far as tests, exams or academics are concerned. In class 5 or 6 i copied a whole math question working off someone and erased the one id done on my own as i was not confident abt it. Turns out that not only was it wrong it was wrong so uniquely that the teacher connected the dots and knew we'd copied off each other or sth. Never cheated again.

 

[JaDed]

Yes in school 9th grade,never in college. I hate the concept of it all one of the reasons being desi schools give so much importance to these "tests" when they hardly measure any practical capability as such but that's a story for another thread.

 

[Ankit007]

I have done it. Many time in exams. Unfortunately I rarely ask anyone answers of questions. And everyone would ask me only because I am topper of my batch. But that also is cheating in a way

 

[Dr_Bassim]

It was really hard to cheat in medical school.

Our college made sure by giving every line a different paper set.

And then when you give USMLE, PLAB, AMC or those differential exams you find out how much in the dust you are as it's impossible to cheat.

Asking a friend for an answer is the most common thing most of us have cheated on till entering professional universities I am assuming.

 

[Hitman]

I did while obtaining my driving license many years ago. You get a sheet where you need to learn all the traffic signs from. Next an officer will be asking you about those signs and you need to be able to identify what those signs mean.

I paid Rs. 200 to a broker who made a deal with that officer and he signed my form without asking me anything.

 

[Slog]

I did while obtaining my driving license many years ago. You get a sheet where you need to learn all the traffic signs from. Next an officer will be asking you about those signs and you need to be able to identify what those signs mean.

I paid Rs. 200 to a broker who made a deal with that officer and he signed my form without asking me anything.

lol thats so cheap

here the 'fee' to make this happen goes upto PKR 3000 so sth like INR 1800

 

[Itachi]

By academics I am indeed a chartered accountant but I just wasn't really into the profession as being career defining for me, so a pursued a different path.

I don't really hate the accounting occupation but neither do I love it as well. It's somewhere in between for me. Let's just say it wasn't inspiring enough for me to pursue something full time.

From a very young age I was fascinated by the use of numbers and thoroughly, even to this day, believe that every single entity, quality, matter and other things included are governed by it one way or another

For this very reason my love with data analysis, Bayesian calculations and statistics are the building blocks of what I do right now - professionally (in my work and business) as well as an implementable hobby to things I love such as cricket and sports in general

I am assuming based on what you've written that you're a bit younger than me so as your senior let me just give you one solid piece of advice accumulated through my own life experience - don't let your education define of what you do in life rather use it to complement your goals, dreams and the things you aim for in future.

This is the life scematic I am following ever since I was 15 and for a guy who started with absolutely nothing it has worked for me, in a net positive, for the last decade or so...

It could apparently stop working tomorrow for but at least it gave me a good 10 years

Ajmedwaqas, that was indeed a good advice.

 

[Itachi]

lol thats so cheap

here the 'fee' to make this happen goes upto PKR 3000 so sth like INR 1800

It's just a step. Other fees aren't included there I suppose.

 

[Hitman]

It's just a step. Other fees aren't included there I suppose.

Yes, that's just one of the procedures. I passed the practical exams on my own merit though.

15-20 years ago one just needed to pay around Rs. 2000 to a broker for a driving license to be obtained, along with the documents from your side. You didn't even have to visit the office. But things got very strict since my time when I obtained my driving license. Brokers could do very little since then to help you.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

It was really hard to cheat in medical school.

Our college made sure by giving every line a different paper set.

And then when you give USMLE, PLAB, AMC or those differential exams you find out how much in the dust you are as it's impossible to cheat.

Asking a friend for an answer is the most common thing most of us have cheated on till entering professional universities I am assuming.

i know med school people these days and they cheat all the time. in their stages, profs, and what not. one of them had whole biochem stuff written sneakily underneath their arm or something (even had the guts to post a snap of it later)

until matriculation, i was really good at studies so the need to cheat never existed. in fsc it went all bad and the exams were so bad that even cheating wouldn't have saved and hence no cheating there as well. uni was a blur in a way because that shiz was scary but still never cheated and somehow managed to get a degree out of that thing too

don't even cheat in card games or board games or don't even lie in bluff (the card game). the best bit is cricket, play hard, have fun, never intentionally cheat however in the heat of the moment sometimes kinda end up believing that i have not edged it while others may insist that i have. then i let go after a few deliberations but that doesn't count as cheating

summing up, education and career, no cheating ever. as clean as it comes.

 

[shaz619]

I've cheated a lot.....while playing gully cricket Whenever I used to stand in as an Umpire I would literally never give edges to keeper or runouts for my friends

I haven't cheated anyone in particular though nor have I ever committed a felony by law - makes me kinda of a boring person to be honest

However, during my A levels I would literally never go to class and play basketball all day long , screwed up my grades for the first year though

) You legend, am the same; in club cricket opposing members of the teams in the lower leagues are asked to be an umpire; we'd take turns being square leg umpire and I'd give my team mates run out so my batting comes quicker ) was getting bored lol oh and in casual games I was the worst, would just be on my phone during the entire time and when people would appeal I'd say I didn't see anything bro sorry

Speaking of cheating did the standard stuff like looking over me shoulder, maybe writing down a couple of things but have always sat me own exam and beyond school or possibly college never did any of that. As far as the law is concerned have never been in trouble with them although there a couple of things I did here and there which I regret but was desperate in that moment so I don't find myself successfully convincing the old me not to do x,y,z etc

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

) You legend, am the same; in club cricket opposing members of the teams in the lower leagues are asked to be an umpire; we'd take turns being square leg umpire and I'd give my team mates run out so my batting comes quicker ) was getting bored lol oh and in casual games I was the worst, would just be on my phone during the entire time and when people would appeal I'd say I didn't see anything bro sorry

Speaking of cheating did the standard stuff like looking over me shoulder, maybe writing down a couple of things but have always sat me own exam and beyond school or possibly college never did any of that. As far as the law is concerned have never been in trouble with them although there a couple of things I did here and there which I regret but was desperate in that moment so I don't find myself successfully convincing the old me not to do x,y,z etc

Everyone does some stuff in the heat of the moment, that is normal my friend. Even I might have done it; although I don't necessarily remember the details, or as someone have pointed out earlier (My ego wouldn't let me ) however it is ok, if your intentions in the grand scheme of things are not targeted to intentionally hurt or undermine someone else physically, emotionally, financially or socially.

Other than that I am of the notion that most people in this world aren't exactly evil or bad of character. I always like to see the positive in things around me, which is probably why I ended up in the Spirit Squad

 

[Dr_Bassim]

i know med school people these days and they cheat all the time. in their stages, profs, and what not. one of them had whole biochem stuff written sneakily underneath their arm or something (even had the guts to post a snap of it later)

until matriculation, i was really good at studies so the need to cheat never existed. in fsc it went all bad and the exams were so bad that even cheating wouldn't have saved and hence no cheating there as well. uni was a blur in a way because that shiz was scary but still never cheated and somehow managed to get a degree out of that thing too

don't even cheat in card games or board games or don't even lie in bluff (the card game). the best bit is cricket, play hard, have fun, never intentionally cheat however in the heat of the moment sometimes kinda end up believing that i have not edged it while others may insist that i have. then i let go after a few deliberations but that doesn't count as cheating

summing up, education and career, no cheating ever. as clean as it comes.

Oh I am not saying medical students don't cheat.

They do.

But it's harder if you are from a reputable university.

Even harder if the questions are oriented in such a way that the person beside you has a different set and you have a different set.

I also didn't feel the need to cheat in medical. It was more like, what's the point.

If I don't know it, when I see a patient, my friend won't be there to help me. Suck it up, lose the marks and study tomorrow so that I can make a difference.

However on a lighter note, I do remember a class fellow of mine bringing biochem notes in her sock. Needless to say it did not end well for her.

 

[Slog]

I've cheated a lot.....while playing gully cricket Whenever I used to stand in as an Umpire I would literally never give edges to keeper or runouts for my friends

The old 'give a timely no-ball in midst of a tough run chase' was always convenient

Did it this weekend

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

The old 'give a timely no-ball in midst of a tough run chase' was always convenient

Did it this weekend

And then the fielding captain to ask one of his Short Mid Wicket fielders to:

No Ball Check Kar Iski

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Oh I am not saying medical students don't cheat.

They do.

But it's harder if you are from a reputable university.

Even harder if the questions are oriented in such a way that the person beside you has a different set and you have a different set.

I also didn't feel the need to cheat in medical. It was more like, what's the point.

If I don't know it, when I see a patient, my friend won't be there to help me. Suck it up, lose the marks and study tomorrow so that I can make a difference.

However on a lighter note, I do remember a class fellow of mine bringing biochem notes in her sock. Needless to say it did not end well for her.

apparently med students are scared of bio chem more than they are scared of anything else.

i generally remember the chemistry in first or second year, and there was this benzene reaction or whatever, and i knew it was going to be in the board exam yet i skipped it. every other person in the exam hall had a 'booti' of it and i neither prepared the topic nor made a booti

then there were some who the examiners were helping in the exam. it was all a mayhem. funny days those

needless to say i scored really badly in chemistry

 

[confused_amoeba]

As for cheating in school or college. Occasionally, like peeking over the shoulder to catch the answer during a test. Nothing major. One time a friend managed to leak the exam paper a day before, but it was a scam. Someone made good money from all us fools that day.

 

[Belawal2014]

apparently med students are scared of bio chem more than they are scared of anything else.

i generally remember the chemistry in first or second year, and there was this benzene reaction or whatever, and i knew it was going to be in the board exam yet i skipped it. every other person in the exam hall had a 'booti' of it and i neither prepared the topic nor made a booti

then there were some who the examiners were helping in the exam. it was all a mayhem. funny days those

needless to say i scored really badly in chemistry

I thought you were pretty young, sort of my age. What is your profession if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Vorador]

I have always been one of the better students in class, though I never hesitated to attempt a peek in another's paper if I found myself stuck, but I doubt that's big enough to consider cheating.

Nevertheless, my current job is all about helping students cheat.

 

[troodon]

Everyone cheats at some point.

It depends on whether you get caught or not.

 

[aloo paratha]

One time in grade 7, I had a history test. It was just boring aboriginal BS, and tbf I didn't really care about history, I still don't, so I didn't study at all. Mid way through the test I had no idea what to write. Conveniently the girl who was sitting beside me had a crush on me so she let me copy off like half a page. Got a higher mark than her in the end

Also a couple of months ago, we had a little science quiz on the symbols for the elements on the periodic table. The teacher didn't feel like marking 25 little papers so he was just like "pass it to the person beside you.". My friend sat beside me and while marking his I noticed that he spelled potassium with only one s. Because he was my friend i quickly added an s. Got him an extra mark

 

[aloo paratha]

Ah, I remember 2 more instances, both last year. I had a French quiz and it was some dumb listening test where we listened to some French song and had to fill in the blanks with the right word. Had 2 words left at the end, asked the teacher if I could go to the washroom and I just searched it there.
Also did the same thing for a math test

 

[Cosmic]

Ah, I remember 2 more instances, both last year. I had a French quiz and it was some dumb listening test where we listened to some French song and had to fill in the blanks with the right word. Had 2 words left at the end, asked the teacher if I could go to the washroom and I just searched it there.
Also did the same thing for a math test

Nice Boi!!!

 

[GenericBrand]

Copying labs during undergrad when I didn't have the time to finish it or if I was having a difficult time with it lol

 

[msb314]

I was reading one of the threads where some cricketer was accused of fixing and some guy posted he cheated in school so that got me thinking is cheating in school such a big thing to others as well?

I was under the impression everyone cheated in school/college atleast once in their lives.. Not the paying others money to pass or leak papers or something of that sort but copying your partners answers has others here done that or am I the only one on here? Was just wondering to get a perspective from others on this..

Bribing someone to pass exams is too extreme and hardly any does it, but leaking papers was quite common among FSc students back in my time, probably still is.

Cheating on the exam by asking a friend or looking over your shoulder is nothing though. Almost everyone has done it at some point, but it gets tougher and riskier after school, and nearly impossible in medical college.

Yes , I cheated.

I used to write some difficult formulas on scale ( ruler )

I've cheated a lot.....while playing gully cricket Whenever I used to stand in as an Umpire I would literally never give edges to keeper or runouts for my friends

I haven't cheated anyone in particular though nor have I ever committed a felony by law - makes me kinda of a boring person to be honest

However, during my A levels I would literally never go to class and play basketball all day long , screwed up my grades for the first year though

No I don't think so.

Maybe my ego won't let me remember.

Many times, most recently today.

Don't know why I took accounting. It's mad hard.

funnily enough ive only ever cheated once as far as tests, exams or academics are concerned. In class 5 or 6 i copied a whole math question working off someone and erased the one id done on my own as i was not confident abt it. Turns out that not only was it wrong it was wrong so uniquely that the teacher connected the dots and knew we'd copied off each other or sth. Never cheated again.

Unfortunately - I have also cheated several times but on homework.

Always used to give me mates a call or text asking to "compare answers" and once I got their answer - I merely told them I got the same when in reality I didn't even do the homework It was effective on multiple choice homework in college.

Never cheated on an exam as far as I can recall although I was generous to my buddies who did cheat off me from time to time - one guy even took a photo with his cell phone of the last page of my exam to copy as the professor was collecting our exams.

LOL good times!

 

[aloo paratha]

Unfortunately - I have also cheated several times but on homework.

Always used to give me mates a call or text asking to "compare answers" and once I got their answer - I merely told them I got the same when in reality I didn't even do the homework It was effective on multiple choice homework in college.

Never cheated on an exam as far as I can recall although I was generous to my buddies who did cheat off me from time to time - one guy even took a photo with his cell phone of the last page of my exam to copy as the professor was collecting our exams.

LOL good times!

I've asked a friend to copy their homework so many times I don't even count it as cheating.

Did it 3 days ago

 

[Chrish]

Yes

 

[dhump]

I was reading one of the threads where some cricketer was accused of fixing and some guy posted he cheated in school so that got me thinking is cheating in school such a big thing to others as well?

I was under the impression everyone cheated in school/college atleast once in their lives.. Not the paying others money to pass or leak papers or something of that sort but copying your partners answers has others here done that or am I the only one on here? Was just wondering to get a perspective from others on this..

Is there a difference between cheating and fraud ?? I think cricketers committed fraud.

I am not sure that cheating in an exam is actually comparable to this or am I wrong ?

 

[dhump]

I've asked a friend to copy their homework so many times I don't even count it as cheating.

Did it 3 days ago

Well I am not sure if this is cheating end of the day you copied it and got some benefit out of it...things you have missed are your own loss and not really harmful to anyone else.

I think we are mixing cheating and fraud.

 

[Belawal2014]

Is there a difference between cheating and fraud ?? I think cricketers committed fraud.

I am not sure that cheating in an exam is actually comparable to this or am I wrong ?

People brought up Nasir Jamshed and him cheating in his matriculation exam or sth like that, hence this thread.

 

[dhump]

People brought up Nasir Jamshed and him cheating in his matriculation exam or sth like that, hence this thread.

No one opposed his selection after he was caught cheating in exam, but now this fixing is another level.

Also Nasir Jamshed cheating in federal board exam which is offence punishable by law.

 

[Mamoon]

People brought up Nasir Jamshed and him cheating in his matriculation exam or sth like that, hence this thread.

No one opposed his selection after he was caught cheating in exam, but now this fixing is another level.

Also Nasir Jamshed cheating in federal board exam which is offence punishable by law.

Cheating on a board exam takes a lot of nerve. If you are caught slipping, your career could be ruined. Similarly, spot-fixing takes nerve as well, so there is a correlation. However, Jamshed's case is different because he probably didn't care about his academic career but still, getting caught is humiliating enough and he did get humiliated for it.

 

[Mamoon]

Unfortunately - I have also cheated several times but on homework.

Always used to give me mates a call or text asking to "compare answers" and once I got their answer - I merely told them I got the same when in reality I didn't even do the homework It was effective on multiple choice homework in college.

Never cheated on an exam as far as I can recall although I was generous to my buddies who did cheat off me from time to time - one guy even took a photo with his cell phone of the last page of my exam to copy as the professor was collecting our exams.

LOL good times!

Cheating on homework/assignments is extremely common.

 

[dhump]

Cheating on a board exam takes a lot of nerve. If you are caught slipping, your career could be ruined. Similarly, spot-fixing takes nerve as well, so there is a correlation. However, Jamshed's case is different because he probably didn't care about his academic career but still, getting caught is humiliating enough and he did get humiliated for it.

Yes cheating in board exams is definitely something very dangerous, but yet again I think spot fixing is more like fraud than cheating. By cheating in board exams you are more or less damaging your own career but by fixing a match you are actually doing fraud with your employer and also effecting the outcome of some kind of bet.

I think these are 2 different things.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes cheating in board exams is definitely something very dangerous, but yet again I think spot fixing is more like fraud than cheating. By cheating in board exams you are more or less damaging your own career but by fixing a match you are actually doing fraud with your employer and also effecting the outcome of some kind of bet.

I think these are 2 different things.

Yes, not the best analogy in any case. However, in both cases, you are risking your career for short-term gain.

 

[msb314]

Cheating on homework/assignments is extremely common.

Whilst it is common - I am not proud of it and only did it due to laziness at times.