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"How can a home team, hosting its 1st intl. tournament for so long, be playing the biggest match of the tournament away from home?": Jonathan Agnew

Up to PCB but if I were them, they should simply let the ICC know from now that they will not play any games in India during the ICC Men's T20 World Cup, scheduled for February 2026 (co-hosted with Sri Lanka).

Make it clear from now and be prepared to boycott it.
 
Did it take Mr. Agnew to make us think about this? Next time Pakistan will get the same benefit. Wasn’t that the decided deal? In fact I will argue those tournaments are even more important than CT that no one cares about.
 
who cares, we have complained about this enough. No one wants to talk about this.

The journalist and media people have been a failiure, they never really got everyone talking about this before.
 
Pakistan can return the favor and never step on the Indian soil for a Cricket match , every Indian Pakistan match going forward should be in a Third Country and anyway playing in a neutral venue still doesnt excuse Pakistan from not putting up an effort and surrendering so meekly.
 
Major said:
who cares, we have complained about this enough. No one wants to talk about this.

The journalist and media people have been a failiure, they never really got everyone talking about this before.
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Why are you calling it a failure? Didn’t PCB get the deal that Pak team will get the same benefit?
 
Pakistan should do these:

1) Pakistan shouldn't play in India until India play in Pakistan.

2) If Pakistan host any event in the future, all games should be in Pakistan. Pakistan should refuse to play in neutral venues.

3) For ICC events hosted in India, Pakistan should demand neutral venues.

:inti
 
Local.Dada said:
Did it take Mr. Agnew to make us think about this? Next time Pakistan will get the same benefit. Wasn’t that the decided deal? In fact I will argue those tournaments are even more important than CT that no one cares about.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but posters like @Rajdeep and @Mesozoic firmly believe that BCCI will make a U-turn and refuse to let the Indian team play its match against Pakistan outside India. :inti
 
Local.Dada said:
Why are you calling it a failure? Didn’t PCB get the deal that Pak team will get the same benefit?
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the deal was stupid.
PCB should had said accepted hosting in Pakistan or pull out. ICC had no basis of changing hosting, the case could had gone to CAS because than it would had been a matter between PCB and ICC
 
No one cares about Pakistan but now it's upto them to have some self-respect. What Indians think about is irrelevant.

We have until next year to get used to the idea of not playing in that tournament. Let that become the talking point.
 
Pakistan is a very minor force in world cricket and so no one cares about Pakistan’s position. If Pakistan was winning and competitive, sure some people would take it serious. No one is gonna to take this sorry team and pathetic board serious.
 
chinaman00 said:
Pakistan is a very minor force in world cricket and so no one cares about Pakistan’s position. If Pakistan was winning and competitive, sure some people would take it serious. No one is gonna to take this sorry team and pathetic board serious.
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That's fine - then in that case no point of going to that tournament as they wont win.

Let the world get used to playing these tournaments without Pakistan.
 
What is the ‘aukaat’ of Pakistan to demand things?
 
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MenInG said:
No one cares about Pakistan but now it's upto them to have some self-respect. What Indians think about is irrelevant.

We have until next year to get used to the idea of not playing in that tournament. Let that become the talking point.
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there are ways. Pakistan was in the right. But the thing is you need educated people to know how to make decisions.

Our political govt, no matter who is charge is just stupid.

All Pakistan had to do was be stern, than ICC either deciding to shift it to UAE entirely or kick India out. Had they opeted for UAE, than Pakistan could had taken the case to CAS and it would had been one of the biggest sports case. Once the matter was between Pakistan and ICC, CAS would had decided in our favor.

Look at Davis Cup. The tennis federation made it clear if India doest go Pakistan wins. So Indian team came to Pakistan.

That event would had gone in our favor if the case went to CAS.
 
India would have demolished Pakistan more badly in Lahore flat pitch.

However that is beyond the point. It is unfair for home side to play in a neutral venue against its arch rivals where 80% of the crowd support is for India. What is the hosting advantage then?

That is why I will not count this as victory of India even if we win.

I 100% agree where Jonathan Agnew is coming from. PCB should have never ever accepted hybrid model. I have said it then and I say it now.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Because PCB are shameless leaches who want to make money off India.. at any cost. No izzat..
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Izzat? Indias main issue with Pakistan is dieing citizens and soldiers. Yet at the current IndPak match, BJPs Jay Shah is there enjoying the match, last night was with Akhtar.
 
This will only help India. Every team will struggle against their spinners in UAE and their batting on these slow wickets are at a different level. In hindsight Pakistan should have opted out of «hosting» if India rejected to travel to Pakistan, but you need courage for that which PCB doesn’t have.
 
Major said:
Izzat? Indias main issue with Pakistan is dieing citizens and soldiers. Yet at the current IndPak match, BJPs Jay Shah is there enjoying the match, last night was with Akhtar.
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We order you guys to play when and where we want.. and Pakistanis turn up like little poodles to make some dollars.
 
Rajdeep said:
India would have demolished Pakistan more badly in Lahore flat pitch.

However that is beyond the point. It is unfair for home side to play in a neutral venue against its arch rivals where 80% of the crowd support is for India. What is the hosting advantage then?

That is why I will not count this as victory of India even if we win.

I 100% agree where Jonathan Agnew is coming from. PCB should have never ever accepted hybrid model. I have said it then and I say it now.
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Yes, India would have demolished Pakistan in Pakistan but so has Kiwis done. My issue is that India playing all matches in UAE give them advantage against SENA teams as well. In Pakistan they would have been given better competition from SENA on true flat wickets. Khalid, it’s ok, enjoy the success☺️
 
Aggers should have ECB to speak up at the time.

Now there is no point crying over split milk. The decision has been made and agreed.
 
BCCI is a powerhouse- fact.
Does BCCI influence things in its favor- absolutely.

It doesn’t matter if we think it’s ethical or not.

However let’s think from a common sense perspective

If I was a small business with potential to grow (like PCB with cricketing talent, fan interest etc.), what will I achieve having a pathological hatred and rivalry with say an Ambani.

It would be my own self interest to work with the big fish than against it.

If “self-respect” “integrity” is so important to PCB, it’s free to cut its own prospects.
 
Rajdeep said:
India would have demolished Pakistan more badly in Lahore flat pitch.

However that is beyond the point. It is unfair for home side to play in a neutral venue against its arch rivals where 80% of the crowd support is for India. What is the hosting advantage then?

That is why I will not count this as victory of India even if we win.

I 100% agree where Jonathan Agnew is coming from. PCB should have never ever accepted hybrid model. I have said it then and I say it now.
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This will be a victory for India, whether you acknowledge it or not. Reset your counter to zero once your Team England finally manages to win a match. :kp :inti
 
@DeadlyVenom bro remember I said I will do bhangra in Southall Broadway if we win today? Pardon me but that plan is cancelled as I have now realized it was an unfair contest.

I have postponed it and will do now when India beats Pak in WT20 next year in Modi stadium Ahmedabad.

:inti:kp
 
Agreed.

This game has been a farce from the beginning.
 
Rajdeep said:
@DeadlyVenom bro remember I said I will do bhangra in Southall Broadway if we win today? Pardon me but that plan is cancelled as I have now realized it was an unfair contest.

I have postponed it and will do now when India beats Pak in WT20 next year in Modi stadium Ahmedabad.

:inti:kp
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You deserve a wee bhangra bro. Maybe GB news will pick it up to show what foreigners are doing in London and do some India bashing and that will give me some relief
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
This will be a victory for India, whether you acknowledge it or not. Reset your counter to zero once your Team England finally manages to win a match. :kp :inti
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World can say whatever they want. Just like I have never acknowledged our loss in BGT due to clear umpiring bias, I will never consider this win as well for unfairness. This match is erased from my record book.
 
Rajdeep said:
World can say whatever they want. Just like I have never acknowledged our loss in BGT due to clear umpiring bias, I will never consider this win as well for unfairness. This match is erased from my record book.
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That makes it even more insulting :(
 
I’m sure next time there is an ICIX tournament in Bharat, we will push for Pakistan team to visit our country and play their match here and let us have the opportunity to show our hospitality to them like always.
 
IAJ said:
Yes, India would have demolished Pakistan in Pakistan but so has Kiwis done. My issue is that India playing all matches in UAE give them advantage against SENA teams as well. In Pakistan they would have been given better competition from SENA on true flat wickets. Khalid, it’s ok, enjoy the success☺️
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Rajdeep is Khalid? Khalid Prasad Yadav from Darbhanga, Bihar? :ba_shock :inti
 
ICC President doing gup-shup with BCCI president and omnipresent Shukla ji
 
Major said:
What is with You and We?

This matter is not about You, Me, We, I or Us.
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Some of these Indians act like they work for BCCI, RAW, GOI etc.

In reality, they are just powerless Rajus and Babus from Hoshiarpur.

:qdkcheeky
 
Let this sink in for the everyone and particularly those that support Mohsin Naqvi..

Pakistan are the hosts
Lahore have shown that they are a great crowd and can fill the stadium even when Pakistan are not playing..

You have India playing at least four games in Dubai (including the semi) with other teams flying back and forth and India used to the conditions...

Here is the crux..

There is now a real possibility of a final of a tournament hosted by Pakistan being played in Dubai with a full Indian crowd...

Who is the winner here?
 
India ensuring they get National Day to beat Pakistan and even take them out of the country.

PCB bent over for this
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Ask PCB chiefs who beg India always for some short change.. Always begging for a series.
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you are the one who said Indian dollars and ICC exchange, so plz explain what they are.

Stop this rant of PCB PCB PCB.
 
Major said:
you are the one who said Indian dollars and ICC exchange, so plz explain what they are.

Stop this rant of PCB PCB PCB.
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I am not going to explain to you how money is distributed and how Pakistanis get there pennies from ICC. Go read about it and then come back to me. What rant? We are talking about PCB accepting to play a self hosted tournament outside Pakistan right??
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
I am not going to explain to you how money is distributed and how Pakistanis get there pennies from ICC. Go read about it and then come back to me. What rant? We are talking about PCB accepting to play a self hosted tournament outside Pakistan right??
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You said Indian dollars, forget PCB rant, telll us what is an Indian dollar
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
lol really!! I am not taking the bait from a troll this time simply. Go find out how PCB gets Indian dollars lol.. Ramiz can tell you all about it.
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first it was PCB, that the chief, than icc, now ramiz.

You are the one who said Indian dollars not them, so elaborate instead telling posters here to FAFO.
 
I think it's time for everyone to suck their pride and get behind the de facto hosts: INDIA
 
Look at the quality of this team and its output, they are virtually sitting at the bottom of the rankings in almost all the formats. Do you think anyone will take such a team seriously?
 
The bigger question should be how one country can play ALL it's games in one venue right throughout the tournament, while ALL other teams travel?

Pakistan would have lost to India on any ground in the world, there's no doubt about that though.
 
India should not have been accomodated in the Champions Trophy, that's the only fair perspective here.

Not playing in Pakistan was Bharat's choice and it was made. They had every right to make that choice.
 
MenInG said:
Up to PCB but if I were them, they should simply let the ICC know from now that they will not play any games in India during the ICC Men's T20 World Cup, scheduled for February 2026 (co-hosted with Sri Lanka).

Make it clear from now and be prepared to boycott it.
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They said it. Still game is in Dubai.

Pakistan will play its games in sri Lanka.

The only option Pakistan had was to boycott this CT, as ICC wouldn't host a tournament without India.
 
Wasn't india gone bangladesh to play 1st match of the World Cup 2011

Australia played in NZ in 2015 World cup when both were co - hosted

:kp
 
Jonathan Agnew is a respected cricket journalist but he should stick to writing about cricket rather than pontificating about political issues that are beyond his scope of expertise.

And just to add, if this match were played in Lahore or Karachi, Pak would have been thrashed even harder within 35 overs irrespective of what target they set.
 
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PCB had the opportunity to refuse hybrid model. But they succumbed to financial benefits. I would have preferred India not playing this.
 
cricketjoshila said:
They said it. Still game is in Dubai.

Pakistan will play its games in sri Lanka.

The only option Pakistan had was to boycott this CT, as ICC wouldn't host a tournament without India.
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It's not about India - This is about Pakistan.

What India does or not do is irrelevant. Pakistanis need to decide what is important.
 
I hope it least final happens in Lahore

Will be so disgusting to see final in Dubai
 
Major said:
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there are ways. Pakistan was in the right. But the thing is you need educated people to know how to make decisions.

Our political govt, no matter who is charge is just stupid.

All Pakistan had to do was be stern, than ICC either deciding to shift it to UAE entirely or kick India out. Had they opeted for UAE, than Pakistan could had taken the case to CAS and it would had been one of the biggest sports case. Once the matter was between Pakistan and ICC, CAS would had decided in our favor.

Look at Davis Cup. The tennis federation made it clear if India doest go Pakistan wins. So Indian team came to Pakistan.

That event would had gone in our favor if the case went to CAS.
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Did ICC and PCB have any agreement saying disputes will be decided by CAS?

Without that there is no scope of arbitration by CAS.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Did ICC and PCB have any agreement saying disputes will be decided by CAS?

Without that there is no scope of arbitration by CAS.
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ICC recognizes CAS

You dont need an agreement.

Only BCCI doesnt accept CAS, which is why i never said the pak vs Ind issue should be taken their. THe issue between PCB and iCC should had been taken there
 
cricketjoshila said:
Would pakistanis want the entire tournament out of Pakistan?
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I am talking obviously not about CT2025 as it's done.

But future tournaments in India should not be entertained by Pakistan.

We will not lose anything by not going there, just like India did.
 
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