How do you rate the current government among all the governments Pakistan has had up till now?

[GoloriousPotato]

Also share which government in your view was the best and the worst.

As much as I hate the current rule there's no denying that they are far from the worst we have had so I dont rate them that badly abd for me Zia rule has to be the worst rule Pakistan has ever experienced.

 

[Markhor]

Under Ayub there was some industrialisation, infrastructure development and economic planning. He was ahead of his time regarding overpopulation, saying there'll be a day when "Pakistanis eat Pakistanis". However he treated Fatima Jinnah, daughter of the nation no less, appallingly. Wealth inequality became problematic - just 20 families controlled two-thirds of industry and three-quarters of the banking sector. Bengali grievances were exacerbated during his tenure, holding some rather racist views.

Yahya was a drunk and wasn't around for long.

ZAB's "Islamic socialism" had an attractive message to the poor. He was a great orator. However ZAB had an authoritarian streak. He nationalised industries and often put them in the hands of party loyalists. He also kowtowed to the religious right particularly on the Ahmadis issue. Worst of all was East Pakistan debacle.

ZAB conspired to retain power through the Legal Framework Order at the expense of Mujibur Rehman who won the 1970 elections. The Order was kept vague to make sure a deadlock can be achieved in the assemblies and hence weaken Mujib's power. ZAB of course threatened to break the legs of any member who attended the following session of the National Assembly. This unprincipled act was the first of many such acts by Bhutto. It was instrumental in antagonising the East Pakistanis. He also made the infamous comment 'Hum yahan tum wahan'.

I agree with OP's assessment of Zia. Enough has been said of that era.

Musharraf's era did see GDP growth and increased foreign investment. There was some semblance of political stability im the years prior to 2007 before he decided to take on the CJ. However he did benefit from the US's massive debt relief post 9/11 in exchange for Pakistani support in the WOT. Steel Mills saga also happened under his watch. NRO was unforgiveable.

Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif did musical chairs in the 90s, but Pakistan was under severe economic strain due to sanctions and there was terrible political instability as well as corruption. Overall, I'll go for Ayub but there's not exactly a great list to choose from.

 

[WebGuru]

I will also go for Ayub if the choice isn't limited to democratic governments.

 

[Syed1]

The only reason this Nawaz government seems like it is mildly average is because it is directly succeeding the Zardari government which was utterly awful.


Growth rates have only increased from 3.5 to around 5. Exports are falling, foreign debt has doubled, load-shedding is still a reality, FDI hasn't improved at all. This government has benefited greatly from China's benevolence and falling oil prices. If both these factors weren't present the incumbent government would have been as bad as the previous one.

The Quaid was correct when he said "Every successive government would be worse than the previous one"

 

[Slog]

The only reason this Nawaz government seems like it is mildly average is because it is directly succeeding the Zardari government which was utterly awful.


Growth rates have only increased from 3.5 to around 5. Exports are falling, foreign debt has doubled, load-shedding is still a reality, FDI hasn't improved at all. This government has benefited greatly from China's benevolence and falling oil prices. If both these factors weren't present the incumbent government would have been as bad as the previous one.

The Quaid was correct when he said "Every successive government would be worse than the previous one"

They are just lucky they happened to come in the middle of an era of dirt cheap oil prices, global economic improvement, being a useful pawn China in its global power game and the fact that Raheel Sharif is a competent army chief who has done great things from a security perspective. Even then they've messed up on many counts.

PPP rule was in the middle of the greatest global economic recession since 1920s, oil at 140$ per barrel, terrible security situation with a bomb everyday due to Musharrag policy. Add to that the fact that they had to tend with a pml-n stooge kaana Dajjal in Supreme Court due to whom the PM and cabinet spent as many days in the Courts as they did in the parliament

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Under Ayub there was some industrialisation, infrastructure development and economic planning. He was ahead of his time regarding overpopulation, saying there'll be a day when "Pakistanis eat Pakistanis". However he treated Fatima Jinnah, daughter of the nation no less, appallingly. Wealth inequality became problematic - just 20 families controlled two-thirds of industry and three-quarters of the banking sector. Bengali grievances were exacerbated during his tenure, holding some rather racist views.

Yahya was a drunk and wasn't around for long.

ZAB's "Islamic socialism" had an attractive message to the poor. He was a great orator. However ZAB had an authoritarian streak. He nationalised industries and often put them in the hands of party loyalists. He also kowtowed to the religious right particularly on the Ahmadis issue. Worst of all was East Pakistan debacle.

ZAB conspired to retain power through the Legal Framework Order at the expense of Mujibur Rehman who won the 1970 elections. The Order was kept vague to make sure a deadlock can be achieved in the assemblies and hence weaken Mujib's power. ZAB of course threatened to break the legs of any member who attended the following session of the National Assembly. This unprincipled act was the first of many such acts by Bhutto. It was instrumental in antagonising the East Pakistanis. He also made the infamous comment 'Hum yahan tum wahan'.

I agree with OP's assessment of Zia. Enough has been said of that era.

Musharraf's era did see GDP growth and increased foreign investment. There was some semblance of political stability im the years prior to 2007 before he decided to take on the CJ. However he did benefit from the US's massive debt relief post 9/11 in exchange for Pakistani support in the WOT. Steel Mills saga also happened under his watch. NRO was unforgiveable.

Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif did musical chairs in the 90s, but Pakistan was under severe economic strain due to sanctions and there was terrible political instability as well as corruption. Overall, I'll go for Ayub but there's not exactly a great list to choose from.

Well summed up.


These days I love reading yours & DW44 posts. Provide great insight into National & International Events. JazaakAllah. Stay Blessed.

 

[Mian]

Musharraf and the local governments during his time in office. These days funds are limited to mna mpa and senators only and they spend it as they want without any knowledge of local issues.

 

[Syed1]

Musharraf and the local governments during his time in office. These days funds are limited to mna mpa and senators only and they spend it as they want without any knowledge of local issues.

Quite ironic that a 'dictator' was the one who liberated the media (we had been stuck with PTV for most of our history) and diregulated the power down to the local level.

If it were left to the Bhuttos and Sharifs we would only have provincial governments and state owned media.

 

[Mian]

I remember same media bashing Mush every day and after him PPP also faced it but Noon is finding life hard in the time of free media so they are investing big money to buy media. Thanks to a dictator for giving us these things inper hota to ptv he dekh rahe hote aaj be

 

[HussainRx8]

Zardari's government was the worst in recent memory. Zia's regime, historically.

Nawaz's government is okay. But he has dictatorial tendencies.

 

[Waseem]

Zardari's government was the worst in recent memory. Zia's regime, historically.

Nawaz's government is okay. But he has dictatorial tendencies.

No doubt, Zardari's government was absolutely pathetic and he didn't even pretend he was doing something for the country. It was literally being run on auto pilot and Zardari simply had no intention to even try winning 2013 elections. This made PMLN government look far better because whether their priorties are right or wrong, people started to see things happening. I remember Punjab government literally did NOTHING during 2008-2013 except (mtero bus project in Lahore) and still won easily in Punjab, this is how pathetic PPP was.

Had Benazir not been killed, we would have been in much better position today.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

No doubt, Zardari's government was absolutely pathetic and he didn't even pretend he was doing something for the country. It was literally being run on auto pilot and Zardari simply had no intention to even try winning 2013 elections. This made PMLN government look far better because whether their priorties are right or wrong, people started to see things happening. I remember Punjab government literally did NOTHING during 2008-2013 except (mtero bus project in Lahore) and still won easily in Punjab, this is how pathetic PPP was.

Had Benazir not been killed, we would have been in much better position today.

I was in Pakistan before the Elections of 2013. There was Massive support for Imran Khan in Urban Punjab. People wanted a change and they voted for Imran.


The seats of Khawaja Asif, Saad Rafique, Ayaz Sadiq & Ahsan Iqbal were highly suspicious. (To Name Few)


Why did Government remove Chairman Nadra ? Why he was threatened that his children will be kidnapped ?


My friend was studying in Comsats and Comsats was sealed for 1 week amid fear of terrorists attacks. Actually what happened in Comsats in those days wrt certain constituencies Election material is known to many.


If Tariq Malik would have been Chairman Nadra than more wickets have been knocked out.


It was highly unlikely that Bushra Aitzaz of PPP would win from Lahore but did you see what came out of the Ballot boxes ? Rubbish.



Had it not been massive rigging in Urban Punjab than PTI might have been in a position to form Coalition government in Punjab or in Centre. If not than PML N would have never won with a 2/3rd majority.



At 10:00pm live on television 5 hours after polling had ended to whom was Nawaz Sharif asking that please give me Majority ?



Judicial Commission like hundreds of previous JC'c was a joke with the nation. Once again Nazariya e Zarurat rose above all.



Billion of Rupees of Public money was used to buy magnetic ink which could not be read by machines ?




2008 Election was free & fair. Otherwise No way PML Q would have been wiped out. Yes People of Punjab than voted in huge numbers for PPP & PML Q because apart from Sheikh Rasheed & Pervez Elahi the performance of other PML Q MNA's & MPA's was poor and because of free media people knew that PML Q did not won through their votes in 2002. In 2008 PTI wasn't a force plus they boycotted the election so people had no choice. Atleast PPP & PML N were better than JI, MMA, JUI F etc so they voted for them. While in 2013 people of punjab did have a choice and PTI's election campaign had already outperformed PML N & PPP in Urban punjab. People voted in huge numbers for PTI but there vote wasn't counted. Wrt Rural Punjab (the Wadera Jageerdaar System) PTI did not have strong candidates plus the poor people are not free to vote as per their will hence PML N clean sweeped.



Lastly, Yes losing BB Shaheed was a big blow for Pakistan.

 

[Hamza_]

I was in Pakistan before the Elections of 2013. There was Massive support for Imran Khan in Urban Punjab. People wanted a change and they voted for Imran.


The seats of Khawaja Asif, Saad Rafique, Ayaz Sadiq & Ahsan Iqbal were highly suspicious. (To Name Few)


Why did Government remove Chairman Nadra ? Why he was threatened that his children will be kidnapped ?


My friend was studying in Comsats and Comsats was sealed for 1 week amid fear of terrorists attacks. Actually what happened in Comsats in those days wrt certain constituencies Election material is known to many.


If Tariq Malik would have been Chairman Nadra than more wickets have been knocked out.


It was highly unlikely that Bushra Aitzaz of PPP would win from Lahore but did you see what came out of the Ballot boxes ? Rubbish.



Had it not been massive rigging in Urban Punjab than PTI might have been in a position to form Coalition government in Punjab or in Centre. If not than PML N would have never won with a 2/3rd majority.



At 10:00pm live on television 5 hours after polling had ended to whom was Nawaz Sharif asking that please give me Majority ?



Judicial Commission like hundreds of previous JC'c was a joke with the nation. Once again Nazariya e Zarurat rose above all.



Billion of Rupees of Public money was used to buy magnetic ink which could not be read by machines ?




2008 Election was free & fair. Otherwise No way PML Q would have been wiped out. Yes People of Punjab than voted in huge numbers for PPP & PML Q because apart from Sheikh Rasheed & Pervez Elahi the performance of other PML Q MNA's & MPA's was poor and because of free media people knew that PML Q did not won through their votes in 2002. In 2008 PTI wasn't a force plus they boycotted the election so people had no choice. Atleast PPP & PML N were better than JI, MMA, JUI F etc so they voted for them. While in 2013 people of punjab did have a choice and PTI's election campaign had already outperformed PML N & PPP in Urban punjab. People voted in huge numbers for PTI but there vote wasn't counted. Wrt Rural Punjab (the Wadera Jageerdaar System) PTI did not have strong candidates plus the poor people are not free to vote as per their will hence PML N clean sweeped.



Lastly, Yes losing BB Shaheed was a big blow for Pakistan.

I don't see PTI Winning elections. Pmln would win, Yet again

 

[Mian]

I was in Pakistan before the Elections of 2013. There was Massive support for Imran Khan in Urban Punjab. People wanted a change and they voted for Imran.


The seats of Khawaja Asif, Saad Rafique, Ayaz Sadiq & Ahsan Iqbal were highly suspicious. (To Name Few)


Why did Government remove Chairman Nadra ? Why he was threatened that his children will be kidnapped ?


My friend was studying in Comsats and Comsats was sealed for 1 week amid fear of terrorists attacks. Actually what happened in Comsats in those days wrt certain constituencies Election material is known to many.


If Tariq Malik would have been Chairman Nadra than more wickets have been knocked out.


It was highly unlikely that Bushra Aitzaz of PPP would win from Lahore but did you see what came out of the Ballot boxes ? Rubbish.



Had it not been massive rigging in Urban Punjab than PTI might have been in a position to form Coalition government in Punjab or in Centre. If not than PML N would have never won with a 2/3rd majority.



At 10:00pm live on television 5 hours after polling had ended to whom was Nawaz Sharif asking that please give me Majority ?



Judicial Commission like hundreds of previous JC'c was a joke with the nation. Once again Nazariya e Zarurat rose above all.



Billion of Rupees of Public money was used to buy magnetic ink which could not be read by machines ?




2008 Election was free & fair. Otherwise No way PML Q would have been wiped out. Yes People of Punjab than voted in huge numbers for PPP & PML Q because apart from Sheikh Rasheed & Pervez Elahi the performance of other PML Q MNA's & MPA's was poor and because of free media people knew that PML Q did not won through their votes in 2002. In 2008 PTI wasn't a force plus they boycotted the election so people had no choice. Atleast PPP & PML N were better than JI, MMA, JUI F etc so they voted for them. While in 2013 people of punjab did have a choice and PTI's election campaign had already outperformed PML N & PPP in Urban punjab. People voted in huge numbers for PTI but there vote wasn't counted. Wrt Rural Punjab (the Wadera Jageerdaar System) PTI did not have strong candidates plus the poor people are not free to vote as per their will hence PML N clean sweeped.



Lastly, Yes losing BB Shaheed was a big blow for Pakistan.

An eye opener for all of us read it guys [MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION]

 

[Waseem]

^^This is the reason i don't waste my time responding to our dear friend talentspotter.

I mean i can understand one can change opinion about a party or leader but going back on each and every word you said means you were either fake before or you are fake now (nothing in between unfortunately).

I remember Marvi Memon accusing PMLN of all sort of things and after joining PMLN her excuse was "Whatever she said about PMLN was what PMLQ leadership told us"

 

[Mian]

^^This is the reason i don't waste my time responding to our dear friend talentspotter.

I mean i can understand one can change opinion about a party or leader but going back on each and every word you said means you were either fake before or you are fake now (nothing in between unfortunately).

I remember Marvi Memon accusing PMLN of all sort of things and after joining PMLN her excuse was "Whatever she said about PMLN was what PMLQ leadership told us"

haha "leadership told us" these guys are hilarious i mean inka apna demagh kaam nae kerta ke itne jaldi yaqeen kerlete hen?

 

[Bewal Express]

An eye opener for all of us read it guys [MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION]

It sounds like a very detailed explanation of rigging. This guy sounds as if he is in the know. Whatever happened to him?

 

[Bewal Express]

^^This is the reason i don't waste my time responding to our dear friend talentspotter.

I mean i can understand one can change opinion about a party or leader but going back on each and every word you said means you were either fake before or you are fake now (nothing in between unfortunately).

I remember Marvi Memon accusing PMLN of all sort of things and after joining PMLN her excuse was "Whatever she said about PMLN was what PMLQ leadership told us"

Hung by his own petard. Anyone with an ounce of dignity would have given up.

 

[Bewal Express]

As for the BB loss, the estate agents in Surrey were particularly devastated.