How the most vocal critics of Pakistan Cricket, Mohammad Amir and Imad Wasim lost us two games directly in the World T20 2024

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I remember back in 2023, Amir and Imad kept throwing every kind of insult at the team when they were invited as experts to give their analysis on Pakistan Cricket.

9 months later, both are bought back in the team after they have their conditions negotiated with the new chairman, and than what happened next everyone knows.

-Amir ends up bottling a super over where he gets smack for 19 runs by an Associate nation. In the process he gives 3 wides and was shouting at his own team mates.

-Imad ends up playing Axar Patel for 4 dot balls as he was unable to hit the ball and was trying to dab him on the offside and missed every single thing. Pakistan would eventually end up losing because of Imad's pathetic batting at the middle order.

The two biggest critics end up being at the forefront of the most important time. Had they won the game, it would had been all praises, yet when they are involved at the losses, certain fans are looking for someone else to blame.

I think after this World Cup, alot of these cricketers will be careful when opening their mouths on TV.
 
Amir was reason the match went to super over . Imad bowled perfectly yesterday . His batting was questionable. Amir spell against India was brilliant too . Let’s hide Babar’s short comings by blaming Amir and imad
Exactly this run a ball chase was Babar’s game. And he bottled it and is primarily to blame for the loss.
 
They have picked up awards for worst super over in the history of cricket and perhaps worst chasing knock.
 
Everyone is a big mouth on TV i saw a clip of Shehzad after first innings of India, Imam on Shadab list goes on.

Amir still bowled really well except that super over, Rauf was responsible for that filth.
 
Everyone is a big mouth on TV i saw a clip of Shehzad after first innings of India, Imam on Shadab list goes on.

Amir still bowled really well except that super over, Rauf was responsible for that filth.
Things don't work like that. We can't pick and choose cut off points.

We can also say that Rauf bowled well apart from his final over vs the USA if we use that logic.

The super over is essentially a match on its own and Amir completely bottled it.
 
Things don't work like that. We can't pick and choose cut off points.

We can also say that Rauf bowled well apart from his final over vs the USA if we use that logic.

The super over is essentially a match on its own and Amir completely bottled it.
That is true as well.
 
I remember back in 2023, Amir and Imad kept throwing every kind of insult at the team when they were invited as experts to give their analysis on Pakistan Cricket.

9 months later, both are bought back in the team after they have their conditions negotiated with the new chairman, and than what happened next everyone knows.

-Amir ends up bottling a super over where he gets smack for 19 runs by an Associate nation. In the process he gives 3 wides and was shouting at his own team mates.

-Imad ends up playing Axar Patel for 4 dot balls as he was unable to hit the ball and was trying to dab him on the offside and missed every single thing. Pakistan would eventually end up losing because of Imad's pathetic batting at the middle order.

The two biggest critics end up being at the forefront of the most important time. Had they won the game, it would had been all praises, yet when they are involved at the losses, certain fans are looking for someone else to blame.

I think after this World Cup, alot of these cricketers will be careful when opening their mouths on TV.
Ngl, these talks have gotten so tedious from you folkes as almost everybtopic has been done to death and genuine people who don't even care about this crapola are being affected.

I'm bowing out from this stupid war amd focusing on the cup. My team is in it, Pakistan team is irrelevant now.

Laro jagro, but yall children I swear.
 
Please add Wahab Riaz to the list he use to mock M.Wasim the selector as Mr.laptop and blah blah and today he is being washed like dirty linen from Newspaper to Social Media to TV channels
 
This disasterous tournament has been a collective failure. Anyone pinning this debacle solely on Amir/Imad or solely on Babar/Rizwan are driven by personal agendas. Nobody's blameless.

That said when you talk the talk in TV studios then you should walk it, and Imad especially was quite cutting in the media. The lack of boundaries I can accept on a slow pitch but the lumbering between the wickets was unforgivable, dodgy knee or not. Amir was fine against India but the meltdown in the Super Over vs USA wasn't befitting a bowler of his experience.

Babar and Rizwan should also be thoroughly ashamed. The one game where we needed their brand of riskless accumulation ! One bottled it (as ever) and the other, an experienced pro having already about 3 lives and consuming 44 balls, decided to slog one of the best white-ball bowlers in the world. That too was unforgivable.

As painful as these defeats were, at least the cracks cannot be concealed like in the 2022 T20 World Cup where our fluky run to the Final masked an array of deficiencies. What we choose to do after this tournament is over is anyone's guess.
 
Imad Wasim is a garbage cricketer. Always was and always will be. He is a poor man’s Krunal Pandya.

We all know that his deluded fans don’t know anything about cricket. They live in a fantasy world where he is some master tactician and great reader of the game.

It was inevitable that he was going to get exposed but the way he got exposed was even beyond our imagination. He was humiliated.

Nonetheless, him and his supporters deserve this humiliation. The Imad chapter will be closed forever very soon and this time no one will take him seriously on TV because he is now cooked for life.

As far as Amir is concerned, he was finished years ago and his lackluster bowling post comeback, starting with getting tonked by Seifert and some Irish batsmen and culminating with a humiliation for the ages vs USA was also necessary. Both him and his fans deserve this humiliation.

One track mind fans didn’t have these performances in mind when they were doing bhangra on their return and now they are trying to deflect attention to others.
 
If Pakistan played Nawaz instead of Imad, and Nawaz played the knock Imad played today, one track mind posters would claim that had Pakistan played Imad instead, he would have won Pakistan this match.

Similarly, if Hassan Ali had conceded 19 runs in the Super Over vs USA, few posters would claim that had Pakistan played Amir, he would have never conceded 19 runs in a Super Over vs USA because of his ability to handle pressure bla bla.

Similarly, had Pakistan played Saim at 3 and he failed the way he has failed as an opener, posters would argue that he failed because Babar selfishly didn’t give him the opening slot and had he opened, he would have done well.
 
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Imad Wasim is garbage that is the majority view on this forum and no doubt it is the reality add to it he is not fully fit for this tourney have some knee issue
 
We all know what Amir and Imad would have said if they were still on TV.

There would be separate threads on PP and their delusional fans would be doing bhangra in those threads.

Amir: “Pakistan showed lack of composure in the Super Over. You have to control your emotions bowled disciplined lines.

The way he (insert bowler’s name) bowled wides was very disappointing to see. Pakistan definitely missed an experience bowler”

Imad: “Pakistani batsmen showed lack of application on the pitch. The game awareness was poor, the approach was totally wrong. When Rizwan got out, the equation was still run a ball but the lower order panicked. They missed an experienced and cool head”

:klopp
 
Every where in Pakistan people are insulting Imad Wasim. Even on social media, Imad Wasim is now the no.1 enemy.

Oh man, how the might has fallen. From Mr. Elite to public enemy no.1

Than again, he deserves it.
 
When it is over and the dust settles, Amir and Imad will be lying in their beds at night starting at the ceiling and asking themselves why on earth did they come back.

They would want to turn back the clock and stay retired. They had no reason to expose themselves like this.

They were so much better off staying on TV and fooling their fans into thinking that they know what they are talking about.
 
Every where in Pakistan people are insulting Imad Wasim. Even on social media, Imad Wasim is now the no.1 enemy.

Oh man, how the might has fallen. From Mr. Elite to public enemy no.1

Than again, he deserves it.
And Chacha gets away scott free without ever contributing in his 8 year international tenure...he must really be everyone's real Chacha... that's the only logical explanation
 
Imad Wasim through his sources is already making the excuse that the team management and the PCB forced him to play the game via pain killing injections even though he wasn't 100%. He will blame his poor performance on playing with injury.
 
Imad Wasim through his sources is already making the excuse that the team management and the PCB forced him to play the game via pain killing injections even though he wasn't 100%. He will blame his poor performance on playing with injury.
I heard from credible sources he’s in tomorrow’s playing 11.
 
Imad himself said that he is the best allrounder at the start of this World T20, could some mod plz post that video.

its just hilarious the ego this guy has
 
And Chacha gets away scott free without ever contributing in his 8 year international tenure...he must really be everyone's real Chacha... that's the only logical explanation
bro, everyone is being blamed.

But this thread is about the most vocal critics that sat on TV to judge the players during the World Cup 2023. Thing is, its easy to talk and critisize.
 
bro, everyone is being blamed.

But this thread is about the most vocal critics that sat on TV to judge the players during the World Cup 2023. Thing is, its easy to talk and critisize.
Everyone is to blame, correct...but at least the likes of Imad and Amir have performed in the past World Cups, what has Chacha done to warrant his selection 3 World Cups in a row? Why is he an automatic selection in the playing 11, even in the matches prior to the World Cups where he fails as well?
 
Everyone is to blame, correct...but at least the likes of Imad and Amir have performed in the past World Cups, what has Chacha done to warrant his selection 3 World Cups in a row? Why is he an automatic selection in the playing 11, even in the matches prior to the World Cups where he fails as well?
He played well in the PSL. The same PSL where Imads performance had people wanting him back.
 
He played well in the PSL. The same PSL where Imads performance had people wanting him back.
Did he actually play well in the past PSL? I just checked and found he scored one 50. Just one 50!!

Imad failed with the bat but he bowled well...Amir bowled well against the US until he choked in the super over...

Chacha never chokes because to choke you have to perform well at some of the match...the man comes out to bat with a look like he is about to crap his pants...of he plays tomorrow, I'm fully done with team!
 
Did he actually play well in the past PSL? I just checked and found he scored one 50. Just one 50!!

Imad failed with the bat but he bowled well...Amir bowled well against the US until he choked in the super over...

Chacha never chokes because to choke you have to perform well at some of the match...the man comes out to bat with a look like he is about to crap his pants...of he plays tomorrow, I'm fully done with team!
Chacha performed very badly. But the guys you are giving excuses for performed the same if not worse.

There is no point in ' batted or bowled well until.....'

You do well or you don't.

We have witnessed the world's worst super over.

And the world's worst chasing knock.

That's the reality. Sadly we don't have a editing software for real live matches where we can edit out the parts after the 'performed well until'. The super over from Amir and Imad jogging while killing our chase are part of the match.
 
Everyone is to blame, correct...but at least the likes of Imad and Amir have performed in the past World Cups, what has Chacha done to warrant his selection 3 World Cups in a row? Why is he an automatic selection in the playing 11, even in the matches prior to the World Cups where he fails as well?
Iftikhar helped Pakistan qualify for the semifinals in 2022 with his explosive match winning knock vs SA.

He also played a quality knock vs India under high pressure when Pakistan were stuttering and put the pressure back on India.

It would have been a match winning innings had Rauf not bottled it.

Those two knocks are better than anything Imad has ever done in a World Cup including the innings vs Afghanistan where he was plumb LBW but the umpire was too blind to see.
 
Chacha performed very badly. But the guys you are giving excuses for performed the same if not worse.

There is no point in ' batted or bowled well until.....'

You do well or you don't.

We have witnessed the world's worst super over.

And the world's worst chasing knock.

That's the reality. Sadly we don't have an editing software for real live matches where we can edit out the parts after the 'performed well until'. The super over from Amir and Imad jogging while killing our chase are part of the match.
The lengths people go to to defend their favorites.

Hassan Ali would have been buried alive had he conceded 19 runs in a Super Over vs USA.
 
Real mixed bag by both. Amir bowled well in the US game and then bowled one of the worst ever super overs that I can remember. One of my colleagues wasn't buying Amir just got it wrong on 3 occasions, he said the wides were meant to go for 4s but Riz got across and saved even more damage.
Imad bowled well but his batting was awful. For such an experienced player, it was plain dumb.
So far neither have added anything to a poor team
 
Let’s be honest here. Amir schooled Shaheen on how left armers should bowl.

Imad schooled Shadab on how a spinner should bowl.

Imad had a shocker with the bat yes. Amir bowled a poor super over yes, but he also got you there.

These two guys who let’s face it are way out of their prime, haven’t really played much international cricket of late, you want them to go and win both matches for you? You want these two to cover up for your super duper players who have been consistently part of tue setup for years and should be in the prime of their careers.

It says more about babar, rizwan, shadab and shaheen than them.
 
Iftikhar helped Pakistan qualify for the semifinals in 2022 with his explosive match winning knock vs SA.

He also played a quality knock vs India under high pressure when Pakistan were stuttering and put the pressure back on India.

It would have been a match winning innings had Rauf not bottled it.

Those two knocks are better than anything Imad has ever done in a World Cup including the innings vs Afghanistan where he was plumb LBW but the umpire was too blind to see.
Two performances, only one which resulted in a win in a career spanning 8 years...wow! Also, surprised you didn't mention his 80 odd score in the last ODI World Cup in the warm-up against the Aussies where he was dropped twice off the bowling of Steven Smith and David Warner.

Enjoy having Chacha Fraud in the team for the foreseeable future and probably the next World Cup...
 
The lengths people go to to defend their favorites.

Hassan Ali would have been buried alive had he conceded 19 runs in a Super Over vs USA.

Hassan Ali would’ve made sure that the game was over before the 15th over.

You along with all the other RizBar fans have been humiliated, two accumulators that can bat till the end couldn’t chase down 120?

Babar has now become a specialist captain, which he sucks at.

Rizwan has become a specialist WK.
 
Two performances, only one which resulted in a win in a career spanning 8 years...wow! Also, surprised you didn't mention his 80 odd score in the last ODI World Cup in the warm-up against the Aussies where he was dropped twice off the bowling of Steven Smith and David Warner.

Enjoy having Chacha Fraud in the team for the foreseeable future and probably the next World Cup...
You made an incorrect statement and I corrected you. That’s all.

Iftikhar is a crap player just like Imad.
 
Everyone is to blame, correct...but at least the likes of Imad and Amir have performed in the past World Cups, what has Chacha done to warrant his selection 3 World Cups in a row? Why is he an automatic selection in the playing 11, even in the matches prior to the World Cups where he fails as well?
bro, we are not talking about past world cups.

Thing is, Chacha didnt give statements on tv of being the best.

Again, i blame everyone for this loss, but the fact that two guys sat on tv bashed the tv during the WOrld Cup 2023 and even went as far as insulting the captain and the players and than be directly involved in the 2 losses seems quite funny to me.

They talked soo much that when they were asked to come and do their job, they failed
 
Hassan Ali would’ve made sure that the game was over before the 15th over.

You along with all the other RizBar fans have been humiliated, two accumulators that can bat till the end couldn’t chase down 120?

Babar has now become a specialist captain, which he sucks at.

Rizwan has become a specialist WK.
Only people who have been humiliated are Amir and Imad fans. So much chest thumping over the return of two players who have not only added zilch to the team but have played starring roles in two humiliating defeats.
 
Only people who have been humiliated are Amir and Imad fans. So much chest thumping over the return of two players who have not only added zilch to the team but have played starring roles in two humiliating defeats.

Going by all your posts it seems as if we’re playing with a team of 2 and everyone else has immunity.

Amir has outperformed Shaheen, had Shaheen bowled the Super Over I’m pretty sure he would’ve conceded 20+.
 
Let’s be honest here. Amir schooled Shaheen on how left armers should bowl.

Imad schooled Shadab on how a spinner should bowl.

Imad had a shocker with the bat yes. Amir bowled a poor super over yes, but he also got you there.

These two guys who let’s face it are way out of their prime, haven’t really played much international cricket of late, you want them to go and win both matches for you? You want these two to cover up for your super duper players who have been consistently part of tue setup for years and should be in the prime of their careers.

It says more about babar, rizwan, shadab and shaheen than them.

I don't understand this about getting us to a super over. How is this measured? If people are able to make allowances for Amir flopping the super over then why not make the same allowances for Rauf flopping his final over?
 
bro, we are not talking about past world cups.

Thing is, Chacha didnt give statements on tv of being the best.

Again, i blame everyone for this loss, but the fact that two guys sat on tv bashed the tv during the WOrld Cup 2023 and even went as far as insulting the captain and the players and than be directly involved in the 2 losses seems quite funny to me.

They talked soo much that when they were asked to come and do their job, they failed
Didn't he call himself the best finisher in Pakistan right now?
 
Every where in Pakistan people are insulting Imad Wasim. Even on social media, Imad Wasim is now the no.1 enemy.

Oh man, how the might has fallen. From Mr. Elite to public enemy no.1

Than again, he deserves it.
Why are people not blaming Rizwan, Ifthi, and Fakhar before blaming him?
They are the main batsmen and are supposed to finish the match, right?
 
What's the point of claiming Amir got us to a super over, when he bottled the super over?

Technically it was Rauf who got us to a super over by gifting USA with a boundary on the last ball!
 
What's the point of claiming Amir got us to a super over, when he bottled the super over?

Technically it was Rauf who got us to a super over by gifting USA with a boundary on the ball!
Using the logic that is being used to defend Amir

If Rauf had conceded a six off the last ball instead of a four we would have won the game.

He did well to restrict the US batsman and take us to a super over.
 
Didn't he call himself the best finisher in Pakistan right now?
Again im not saying that ifti isnt to be blamed, but Ifti never called himself the best, he said his role is of a finisher so he is known as the finisher.
You are not getting the point. AMir and Imad sad on national tv and insulted the Pak team for 2 whole months
 
I don't understand this about getting us to a super over. How is this measured? If people are able to make allowances for Amir flopping the super over then why not make the same allowances for Rauf flopping his final over?

The last over was Babar’s fault, he had mid off in the circle when Rauf was bowling full. Had there been a long off, it would’ve been a single of the last ball.
 
Why are people not blaming Rizwan, Ifthi, and Fakhar before blaming him?
They are the main batsmen and are supposed to finish the match, right?
Imad came to bat at no.5. Imad has said in interviews that he can bat at 4 and 5.

when 45 are needed from 45, and you end up playing 12 dot balls, than offcourse you will be blamed. Imad had 12 dot balls in a situation where 45 was needed off 45.
 
I don't understand this about getting us to a super over. How is this measured? If people are able to make allowances for Amir flopping the super over then why not make the same allowances for Rauf flopping his final over?

I didn’t even mention Rauf. People have been annoyed with Rauf with his consistent poor performances over the last couple of years and that last over added to it - I will say that babar was at fault for that final delivery in the US game too. He bowled well against India (apart from his first over).

Even if you take out that one sentence of mine about “getting you there”, my point still stands.
 
The last over was Babar’s fault, he had mid off in the circle when Rauf was bowling full. Had there been a long off, it would’ve been a single of the last ball.
Babar, Rizwan deserve to be called out. Baber should not have accepted the captaincy again nor should the PCB have even considered him.

I just disagree with absolving Imad and Amir.

The two comeback kings produced some of the worst individual performances in Pakistan history but strangely all sorts of stories are being spun about their performances not being that bad.
 
Let’s be honest here. Amir schooled Shaheen on how left armers should bowl.

Imad schooled Shadab on how a spinner should bowl.

Imad had a shocker with the bat yes. Amir bowled a poor super over yes, but he also got you there.

These two guys who let’s face it are way out of their prime, haven’t really played much international cricket of late, you want them to go and win both matches for you? You want these two to cover up for your super duper players who have been consistently part of tue setup for years and should be in the prime of their careers.

It says more about babar, rizwan, shadab and shaheen than them.
I am seriously worried about SSA cricketing intelligence at times. I don't know what is going on with him
 
Imad came to bat at no.5. Imad has said in interviews that he can bat at 4 and 5.

when 45 are needed from 45, and you end up playing 12 dot balls, than offcourse you will be blamed. Imad had 12 dot balls in a situation where 45 was needed off 45.
So, Imad is picked and promoted in the batting order based on his own claims in interviews.
If that's the case, the selectors should have picked Umar Akmal as well; he is good at making those kinds of 'I am a world beater' statements.
 
Babar, Rizwan deserve to be called out. Baber should not have accepted the captaincy again nor should the PCB have even considered him.

I just disagree with absolving Imad and Amir.

The two comeback kings produced some of the worst individual performances in Pakistan history but strangely all sorts of stories are being spun about their performances not being that bad.

I agree but to me it looks like all the blame is being directed towards two players.

The super over was horrible, what about his bowling vs India? Haven’t seen much talk about that on this forum compared to that one over vs USA.
 
I agree but to me it looks like all the blame is being directed towards two players.

The super over was horrible, what about his bowling vs India? Haven’t seen much talk about that on this forum compared to that one over vs USA.
His bowling vs India was good but I think he was maybe the 5th best bowler or 6th across all teams. For Pakistan Haris and Naseem outbowled him and Bumrah, Pandya and possibly Axar had better games.
 
Clearly it's Misbah's fault that Amir and Imad are such garbage cricketers. :p
 
So, Imad is picked and promoted in the batting order based on his own claims in interviews.
If that's the case, the selectors should have picked Umar Akmal as well; he is good at making those kinds of 'I am a world beater' statements.
bro, he claims to be the best allroudner and good enough to bat.

He made the statements on tv, he got selected by mOhsin Naqvi because of those claims.

Nice try hiding behind that oh its the captain who sends the players in.
 
The funny thing is both came down to fitness or injury. Amir was probably too tired in the super over thus bowled so many wides. Was one over too far.

Imad was too tired/unfit/injured to properly rotate strike and pick up singles.

We cry about not hitting boundaries. But the games we are losing in these crunch matches are often decided by this. Even the final last time, we decided to slog for boundaries and got out when we should have focused on rotating strike on that pitch.
 
Going by all your posts it seems as if we’re playing with a team of 2 and everyone else has immunity.

Amir has outperformed Shaheen, had Shaheen bowled the Super Over I’m pretty sure he would’ve conceded 20+.
Even you would not have conceded 20+.

Amir revoked his retirement to bowl the worst Super Over in history.

God decided to humiliate him once more. It was his destiny. He was born to be disgraced & humiliated.

He was blessed with natural talents few possessed but he will be remembered for being a fixer and for bowling the worst Super Over in history.

“And He honours whom He wills, and He disgraces whom He wills”

Quran 3:26
 
Just out of interest, why didn’t Shaheen “no1 schupestar bowler” bowl the super over?

Amir had a great game vs India - he showed that even with his waning fitness and waning ability he’s still ahead of Shaheen.

Amir and Naseem gave you that game on a plate and the Schuper dooper darlings babar and Rizwan fluffed it.
 
Just out of interest, why didn’t Shaheen “no1 schupestar bowler” bowl the super over?
Because Babar, like the delusional Amir fans, thought that he was a big moments player and had the experience and composure to deliver in the Super Over and win Pakistan the match.

Had Shaheen or any other bowler bowled the Super Over and conceded 19 runs, you and other Amir fans would claim that Amir would have never conceded 19 runs and Babar showed inept leadership by not trusting Amir and showed that he has an agenda against him.

Amir will be remembered for bowling the worst Super Over in history of cricket. It was his destiny to be disgraced yet again.

Amir fans would love to go back in time and give the ball to Shaheen or any other bowler so that their hero is protected from this humiliation but they have to live with it.

No one asked Amir to bowl a gazillion wides and concede 19 runs. How embarrassing was that to watch.
 
Let’s be honest here. Amir schooled Shaheen on how left armers should bowl.

Imad schooled Shadab on how a spinner should bowl.

Imad had a shocker with the bat yes. Amir bowled a poor super over yes, but he also got you there.

These two guys who let’s face it are way out of their prime, haven’t really played much international cricket of late, you want them to go and win both matches for you? You want these two to cover up for your super duper players who have been consistently part of tue setup for years and should be in the prime of their careers.

It says more about babar, rizwan, shadab and shaheen than them.
Then there fans should not have talked so much for the past two months.

If Amir and Imad are rusty and washed up, then their fans should have kept low and not made big claims that they are both winners and Pakistan have no chance of competing without them.

The fact is that both add nothing to the team. In fact, they have both played starring roles in two embarrassing defeats.

Amir bowled the worst Super Over of all time; Imad played one of the worst innings of all time.

Pakistan under Babar and the same group of players played the final in 2022. This time, under Babar and the same group of players + Amir & Imad is on the brink of crashing out in the group stage.

Ergo, their return has 0 positive impact on the team and it has proved to be a grand waste of time.

They took their retirement back to bowl the worst Super Over in history and play one of the most embarrassing innings in history.
 
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For those who understand cricket, the Super Over isn't part of the actual match; it's just a tie-breaker. The runs scored and wickets taken during the Super Over don't even count towards the players' career stats.

Amir nearly clinched the match, but then Haris Rauf gave away a boundary on the last ball, and Shaheen dropped a crucial catch in the final over.

so who lost us the match? say again?
 
For those who understand cricket, the Super Over isn't part of the actual match; it's just a tie-breaker. The runs scored and wickets taken during the Super Over don't even count towards the players' career stats.

Amir nearly clinched the match, but then Haris Rauf gave away a boundary on the last ball, and Shaheen dropped a crucial catch in the final over.

so who lost us the match? say again?
In all fairness bro, if you have been asked to bowl the super over…you gotta do the best job still even if you are not the right choice to bowl it.

It was initially a wrong call by the management to ask Amir to bowl it in the first place. It should have been Naseem Shah, I recon he would have given 6-8 runs had if been Naseem. Anyhow, those wides against the left hander are inexcusable by Amir. It is what it is.
 
In all fairness bro, if you have been asked to bowl the super over…you gotta do the best job still even if you are not the right choice to bowl it.

It was initially a wrong call by the management to ask Amir to bowl it in the first place. It should have been Naseem Shah, I recon he would have given 6-8 runs had if been Naseem. Anyhow, those wides against the left hander are inexcusable by Amir. It is what it is.
i agree but it should have not got that stage in the first place against an associate team so its not fair to blame amir
 
In all fairness bro, if you have been asked to bowl the super over…you gotta do the best job still even if you are not the right choice to bowl it.

It was initially a wrong call by the management to ask Amir to bowl it in the first place. It should have been Naseem Shah, I recon he would have given 6-8 runs had if been Naseem. Anyhow, those wides against the left hander are inexcusable by Amir. It is what it is.
He was out of breath by 4th ball. If he had no bowled wides he would have had some energy in the tank. He lost the radar massively due to that.
 
i agree but it should have not got that stage in the first place against an associate team so its not fair to blame amir
It’s cricket. Part of the game. USA realistically should not have depended on a super over, they were cruising and should have won the game during the chase without much difficulty. Yes Rauf got it wrong with some poor deliveries but this is the beauty of the game, you get it slightly wrong and you pay significantly.
 
bro, we are not talking about past world cups.

Thing is, Chacha didnt give statements on tv of being the best.

Again, i blame everyone for this loss, but the fact that two guys sat on tv bashed the tv during the WOrld Cup 2023 and even went as far as insulting the captain and the players and than be directly involved in the 2 losses seems quite funny to me.

They talked soo much that when they were asked to come and do their job, they failed
Their is no doubt we are the best team in the world 🤡.

In Pakistan I am famously hailed a finisher.

Come off it already.
 
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Because Babar, like the delusional Amir fans, thought that he was a big moments player and had the experience and composure to deliver in the Super Over and win Pakistan the match.

Had Shaheen or any other bowler bowled the Super Over and conceded 19 runs, you and other Amir fans would claim that Amir would have never conceded 19 runs and Babar showed inept leadership by not trusting Amir and showed that he has an agenda against him.

Amir will be remembered for bowling the worst Super Over in history of cricket. It was his destiny to be disgraced yet again.

Amir fans would love to go back in time and give the ball to Shaheen or any other bowler so that their hero is protected from this humiliation but they have to live with it.

No one asked Amir to bowl a gazillion wides and concede 19 runs. How embarrassing was that to watch.
That’s babar’s problem. If after all these years he can’t make the right call it’s on him. Amir bowled a bad over, everyone accepts that.

Had X happened, had Y happened? What is this childish nonsense? Come back with a more coherent argument.

You’re all over the place mate.
 
You guys are incredible. Mohammad Amir was the reason why USA match went to Super over. The blame for that match should go to Haris Rauf who conceded 12 runs in 3 balls. Amir was incredible in the second match also and was very unlucky in his first over.

Similarly Imad Wasim is a bowling all rounder, his job isn't to score runs. Bloke bowled his overs to both lefties including Pant who's a monster to left arm bowlers and still didn't conceded too many runs.

Both of them are hardly responsible for your first two matches.
 
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