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How the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) Consistently Rose Above Enmity and Insult

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To Islamophobes, he was a violent man who overcame his foes with terror, and ruled them with cruelty. To over a billion Muslims, he represents the epitome of mercy, and never allowed persecution or oppression to tarnish his exalted character. So which image is more accurate?

Descriptions of Muhammad’s life, military career, and traditions form the foundation for most judgments about his mission. Islam as a whole, through these depictions, is seen as either a religion of peace or a religion of war, depending on which interpretation of the messenger and message is followed. Modern critiques of some of the Prophet’s undertakings are meant to question the civility of Islam in the ongoing manufactured clash of civilizations that fuels both Islamophobes and extremists. Michael Bonner notes, “Many of these modern arguments over historiography, and over the rise of Islam and the origins of jihad more generally, began in the nineteenth and the earlier twentieth centuries among European academic specialists in the study of the East, often referred to as the orientalists.” [1] He goes on to note that the motivation of these arguments cannot be disconnected from “their involvement in the colonial project.”[2] By portraying the Prophet himself as a barbarian, surely his followers cannot but be treated as an inherently violent political body that will employ any means necessary to achieve global domination.

What is uncontroversial is that Muhammad succeeded at wielding unprecedented power after decades of persecution. Michael Hart, who famously considered him the most influential man in history, wrote, “My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.” [3] The question of whether or not he sacrificed his principles in the pursuit of that success is one that requires an in depth look at his consistency, or lack thereof, in varied political contexts.

For the first time in any language, researchers at the Yaqeen Institute for Islamic Research have compiled seventy incidents in which the Prophet Muhammad rose above enmity and insult. The primary goal is to form a foundation for understanding how Muhammad consistently chose mercy when insulted and attacked.

The French historian, Louis Sedillot, writes that, “It is such a distortion of historical facts when some writers accuse Prophet Muhammad of cruelty… They forget that he spared no effort in eliminating the inherited desire for revenge between Arabs; despite the fact that revenge was highly esteemed in Arabia like fencing was in Europe. They do not read the Quranic verse by which the Prophet broke the horrible habit of burying new-born girls alive. They never think of the pardon he granted to his worst enemies after the Conquest of Mecca. Neither do they consider the mercy he showed to many tribes during war. Do they not know that he never misused his power in fulfilling the desire for cruelty?” [4]

The incidents compiled in this research show just that. Both when Muhammad was a persecuted outcast and after he became a ruler, he consistently demonstrated a remarkable level of tolerance and morality that was unprecedented in history. These seventy incidents, paraphrased for the sake of brevity, serve as a reminder of who the Prophet really was, and why over a billion people in the world hold him in such high regard.

The full research publication can be read at this link: https://www.yaqeeninstitute.org/publications/how-the-prophet-muhammad-rose-above-enmity-and-insult/

Author: Imam Omar Suleiman - Founder and President of the Yaqeen Institute for Islamic Research, and an Adjunct Professor of Islamic Studies in the Graduate Liberal Studies Program at SMU (Southern Methodist University).
 
The Prophet of Islam is the most influential person in human history http://www.biographyonline.net/people/100-most-influential.html Like all great people particularly those related to any religion he also has many critics. These are the people who compare ancient Arabia to how life it today:facepalm:

- There are so many lists available not so dissimilar to the lists we see in cricket section.

- I have not seen much criticism about cyrus the great or about Umer bin Abdul Aziz.

- I believe your facepalm is for someone who considers a person from ancient arabia his role model.
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...e394fe4b06992b1b60afa?timestamp=1484667415135


To Islamophobes, he was a violent man who overcame his foes with terror, and ruled them with cruelty. To over a billion Muslims, he represents the epitome of mercy, and never allowed persecution or oppression to tarnish his exalted character. So which image is more accurate?

Descriptions of Muhammad’s life, military career, and traditions form the foundation for most judgments about his mission. Islam as a whole, through these depictions, is seen as either a religion of peace or a religion of war, depending on which interpretation of the messenger and message is followed. Modern critiques of some of the Prophet’s undertakings are meant to question the civility of Islam in the ongoing manufactured clash of civilizations that fuels both Islamophobes and extremists. Michael Bonner notes, “Many of these modern arguments over historiography, and over the rise of Islam and the origins of jihad more generally, began in the nineteenth and the earlier twentieth centuries among European academic specialists in the study of the East, often referred to as the orientalists.” [1] He goes on to note that the motivation of these arguments cannot be disconnected from “their involvement in the colonial project.”[2] By portraying the Prophet himself as a barbarian, surely his followers cannot but be treated as an inherently violent political body that will employ any means necessary to achieve global domination.

What is uncontroversial is that Muhammad succeeded at wielding unprecedented power after decades of persecution. Michael Hart, who famously considered him the most influential man in history, wrote, “My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.” [3] The question of whether or not he sacrificed his principles in the pursuit of that success is one that requires an in depth look at his consistency, or lack thereof, in varied political contexts.

For the first time in any language, researchers at the Yaqeen Institute for Islamic Research have compiled seventy incidents in which the Prophet Muhammad rose above enmity and insult. The primary goal is to form a foundation for understanding how Muhammad consistently chose mercy when insulted and attacked.

The French historian, Louis Sedillot, writes that, “It is such a distortion of historical facts when some writers accuse Prophet Muhammad of cruelty… They forget that he spared no effort in eliminating the inherited desire for revenge between Arabs; despite the fact that revenge was highly esteemed in Arabia like fencing was in Europe. They do not read the Quranic verse by which the Prophet broke the horrible habit of burying new-born girls alive. They never think of the pardon he granted to his worst enemies after the Conquest of Mecca. Neither do they consider the mercy he showed to many tribes during war. Do they not know that he never misused his power in fulfilling the desire for cruelty?” [4]

The incidents compiled in this research show just that. Both when Muhammad was a persecuted outcast and after he became a ruler, he consistently demonstrated a remarkable level of tolerance and morality that was unprecedented in history. These seventy incidents, paraphrased for the sake of brevity, serve as a reminder of who the Prophet really was, and why over a billion people in the world hold him in such high regard.

The full research publication can be read at this link: https://www.yaqeeninstitute.org/publications/how-the-prophet-muhammad-rose-above-enmity-and-insult/

Author: Imam Omar Suleiman - Founder and President of the Yaqeen Institute for Islamic Research, and an Adjunct Professor of Islamic Studies in the Graduate Liberal Studies Program at SMU (Southern Methodist University).

As you are always keen to highlight bias and hidden agendas, I we safe to assume the Yaqeen Institute is free of such shackles?
 
Apologetic filtered material which tells a partial story.

Instead of making baseless arguments, why don't you point out specific incidents to make your point? And yes, a man from 7th century Arabia is my role model and I'm proud of it.
 
- There are so many lists available not so dissimilar to the lists we see in cricket section.

- I have not seen much criticism about cyrus the great or about Umer bin Abdul Aziz.

- I believe your facepalm is for someone who considers a person from ancient arabia his role model.

The people you mentioned lived in different times to the Prophet(saw) therefore can't be compared. He had to fight wars that was required during that period. There may be many lists available but the Prophet(saw) is generally regarded as amongst the greatest of all people. My facepalm is for people who compare life today to how it was in ancient Arabia thus forming an opinion. Sure as a Muslim he is my ultimate hero and example! Him being an Arab is totally irrelevant.
 
The people you mentioned lived in different times to the Prophet(saw) therefore can't be compared. He had to fight wars that was required during that period. There may be many lists available but the Prophet(saw) is generally regarded as amongst the greatest of all people. My facepalm is for people who compare life today to how it was in ancient Arabia thus forming an opinion. Sure as a Muslim he is my ultimate hero and example! Him being an Arab is totally irrelevant.

I gave example of two people, one lived before and other after Mohammad.
Both ruled much much much bigger area. Cyrus had to fight wars too.

Whatever time period/era you compare him with, picture is still worth hiding.

I am assuming you living in current era, and he is still your hero (I am assuming you think him as your moral guide too) so its you who is comparing ancient arab with today's time.

Have you read that list? Hitler is also there.

That list is not about good moral people, this list is about influential people, just like Trump was the person of 2016.
 
Instead of making baseless arguments, why don't you point out specific incidents to make your point? And yes, a man from 7th century Arabia is my role model and I'm proud of it.

Actually, I did not make (= present) any argument (baseless or otherwise). I just commented about it.
If I point out specific incidents, I would be violating the guide lines of TimePass forum.

Plus, its of no use, we would be talking about two different personalities. (I would be talking about historic person, and you would deny the facts as those fit your perception of that personality)

There is no cost associated with being wrong so you can stay incorrect all your life.
 
I gave example of two people, one lived before and other after Mohammad.
Both ruled much much much bigger area. Cyrus had to fight wars too.

Whatever time period/era you compare him with, picture is still worth hiding.

I am assuming you living in current era, and he is still your hero (I am assuming you think him as your moral guide too) so its you who is comparing ancient arab with today's time.

Have you read that list? Hitler is also there.

That list is not about good moral people, this list is about influential people, just like Trump was the person of 2016.

Fighting wars or not doesn't make a person historically influential whatsoever. Ones you mentioned have ruled more parts of the world but that does not been they were just. What "hiding picture" are you talking about?? Is there any doubt in your mind that I am living in the current era?? Many hold the likes of Gandhi, Mandela or Jinnah as their political hero's, none of them are with us anymore. Yes Hitler was influential but Muhammad(saw) is generally regarded as a beacon for good that is not to suggest that I am even remotely envious of Arab people as a whole. Those who contributed to the list I was talking off included testimonies of some of the world's leading thinkers, historians and intellectuals. It is to be noted that the likes of the Sikh Prophet's including Nanak have never been on any such list even though they are generally not seen as war mongers. It is the critics of the Prophet(saw) who compare ancient Arabia with todays times, not me. I am just pointing out how his critics think.
 
Fighting wars or not doesn't make a person historically influential whatsoever. Ones you mentioned have ruled more parts of the world but that does not been they were just. What "hiding picture" are you talking about?? Is there any doubt in your mind that I am living in the current era?? Many hold the likes of Gandhi, Mandela or Jinnah as their political hero's, none of them are with us anymore. Yes Hitler was influential but Muhammad(saw) is generally regarded as a beacon for good that is not to suggest that I am even remotely envious of Arab people as a whole. Those who contributed to the list I was talking off included testimonies of some of the world's leading thinkers, historians and intellectuals. It is to be noted that the likes of the Sikh Prophet's including Nanak have never been on any such list even though they are generally not seen as war mongers. It is the critics of the Prophet(saw) who compare ancient Arabia with todays times, not me. I am just pointing out how his critics think.

- Being influential or not, is pretty subjective, plus its worth less if it disregards morality as one of it's main criterion. (as you accepted that Hitler is also on the list).
- If we are disregarding morality, then I would propose that Genghis Khan should be #1, as .5% of all male population at the moments is his descendants. (how more one could be more influential )http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html

- No, he is not "generally regarded as a beacon for good". Out side of Muslims (Muslims account of 23.2% of world population), he is not considered as a true prophet so for outsider he was just another human being, behaving like other local leaders of 600 AD. So they do not expect much from him at the first place. And sometimes they say good words cause they want to be politically correct/ they do not want to hurt feelings of Muslims.

- Again, this is list is worthless (remember, Trump is THE MAN of YEAR 2016 and Obama got Nobel Peace Prize and Saudi Arabia is heading Human Right Commission in UN), nothing wrong if Guru Nanak is not on it.

- I have avoided some of your points intentionally.
 
- Being influential or not, is pretty subjective, plus its worth less if it disregards morality as one of it's main criterion. (as you accepted that Hitler is also on the list).
- If we are disregarding morality, then I would propose that Genghis Khan should be #1, as .5% of all male population at the moments is his descendants. (how more one could be more influential )http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html

- No, he is not "generally regarded as a beacon for good". Out side of Muslims (Muslims account of 23.2% of world population), he is not considered as a true prophet so for outsider he was just another human being, behaving like other local leaders of 600 AD. So they do not expect much from him at the first place. And sometimes they say good words cause they want to be politically correct/ they do not want to hurt feelings of Muslims.

- Again, this is list is worthless (remember, Trump is THE MAN of YEAR 2016 and Obama got Nobel Peace Prize and Saudi Arabia is heading Human Right Commission in UN), nothing wrong if Guru Nanak is not on it.

- I have avoided some of your points intentionally.

I disagree! He is regarded as a beacon of good by most people however since there has been no votes on this issue it can not be proved. Hitler was infamous not famous, there is a difference between the two for sure. Many non-Muslim's respect the Prophet of Islam as well, no doubt about it whatsoever. Your percentage game of Muslim's being whatever number in the world applies to every religion. As I have said so before that every religious figure has critics, no one dislikes Christ more then the Jews that does not disqualify his greatness. They are criticised because people read and take an interest in them. The only worse thing to being noticed is being ignored.

Yes there is something wrong if no one else has an opinion on a person one community see's as a Prophet or great person! Trump or Obama is not the issue when we are discussing historical or religious figures here. Trump and Obama don't fall in to that category at all. If they attack the Prophet in the name of freedom then let him be praised in the name of political correctness as well.
 
[MENTION=42489]Black Zero[/MENTION], on politics we disagree...here we don't.

He was a very admirable man, certainly did a lot of great things and not even being religious I admire him. Muslims would have been better off had he was alive today. Saying that, like the time it was back then, there are also atrocities committed under his forces. Just like there were under every emperor. So perhaps the title is a bit off-mark.
 
There was many conquerors who were just as successful as Prophet Mohammed in expanding their rule. Alexander did it many centuries before Prophet Mohammed did.

But the greatest success of Prophet Mohammed is because he combined his conquest with the concept of God.

You cannot buy loyalty of foot soldiers for too long just by throwing in money. The soldiers will soon give up as they see the futility of war. They will not be willing to lay down their lives if they realize that the opponent is many times more powerful than themselves.

But if you tell the same soldiers that they are fighting for God and the death would take them straight to heaven for the noble cause, the soldiers will be pumped up. We can still see the examples of brainwashed individuals willing to blow themselves up or go for a battle where they know that they will surely die.

Religion and God are powerful concepts which have been used many times before in the past not just by Muslims. Crusaders did it. Marathas also did it. But their ambition was not to convert the newly conquered lands unlike Muslim conquests who want to convert all infidels to Islam. Even now you see the war cries when India and Pak go for wars. From Nare Takbeer to Bole Sonehal or Jai Bhavani etc.
 
[MENTION=42489]Black Zero[/MENTION], on politics we disagree...here we don't.

He was a very admirable man, certainly did a lot of great things and not even being religious I admire him. Muslims would have been better off had he was alive today. Saying that, like the time it was back then, there are also atrocities committed under his forces. Just like there were under every emperor. So perhaps the title is a bit off-mark.

Not so quick about our agreement (unfortunately :( )

He was a very admirable man --- I respectfully disagree
Certainly did a lot of great things --- He did few good things and couple of great things, but in comparison ...
Muslims would have been better off had he was alive today --- no comment as no way to prove or disapprove the point
There are also atrocities committed under his forces --- in some (or most) cases "his forces" did not want to fight but he forced them. (2.216 Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you.)
 
There was many conquerors who were just as successful as Prophet Mohammed in expanding their rule. Alexander did it many centuries before Prophet Mohammed did.

But the greatest success of Prophet Mohammed is because he combined his conquest with the concept of God.

You cannot buy loyalty of foot soldiers for too long just by throwing in money. The soldiers will soon give up as they see the futility of war. They will not be willing to lay down their lives if they realize that the opponent is many times more powerful than themselves.

But if you tell the same soldiers that they are fighting for God and the death would take them straight to heaven for the noble cause, the soldiers will be pumped up. We can still see the examples of brainwashed individuals willing to blow themselves up or go for a battle where they know that they will surely die.

Religion and God are powerful concepts which have been used many times before in the past not just by Muslims. Crusaders did it. Marathas also did it. But their ambition was not to convert the newly conquered lands unlike Muslim conquests who want to convert all infidels to Islam. Even now you see the war cries when India and Pak go for wars. From Nare Takbeer to Bole Sonehal or Jai Bhavani etc.


“So enjoy what you have gotten of booty in war, lawful and good’ [al-Anfaal 8:69].

If fighting for God was the sole motivation needed then why offer war booty?...why were his fighters allowed to confiscate property and wealth?...

Ghaneemah is booty and fay is spoils of war...booty is that which is taken from fighting and the latter is that which hasnt...

“And know that whatever of war-booty that you may gain, verily, one-fifth (1/5th) of it is assigned to Allaah, and to the Messenger, and to the near relatives [of the Messenger (Muhammad)], (and also) the orphans, Al‑Masaakin (the poor) and the wayfarer” [al-Anfaal 8:41]

The other 4/5 of that which is attained during battle is divided amongst the fighters...

And remember booty also included women:

"And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. 4:24

"Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty;..." 33:50

That said for the ideologues among the fighters Islam definitely has the best Heaven of any religion...and martyrs are offered the best of what heaven has to offer...so you go to war and win you get rich and get to enjoy whatever or whomever you capture...if you die then you get the best of heaven...

Its quite a potent combination...
 
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If fighting for God was the sole motivation needed then why offer war booty?...why were his fighters allowed to confiscate property and wealth?...

Ghaneemah is booty and fay is spoils of war...booty is that which is taken from fighting and the latter is that which hasnt...



The other 4/5 of that which is attained during battle is divided amongst the fighters...

And remember booty also included women:





That said for the ideologues among the fighters Islam definitely has the best Heaven of any religion...and martyrs are offered the best of what heaven has to offer...so you go to war and win you get rich and get to enjoy whatever or whomever you capture...if you die then you get the best of heaven...

Its quite a potent combination...

What is wrong with having war booty ?

Fighting for God is not the purpose , but establishing land where laws of God are are followed is the purpose.
 
What is wrong with having war booty ?

Fighting for God is not the purpose , but establishing land where laws of God are are followed is the purpose.


Its not about defining right and wrong...although as someone who isnt religious I certainly do see a problem...

The post was a response to the idea that everyone fought solely for ideological reasons...i was simply pointing out that it was a sweet deal on this Earth for fighters...they can confiscate property, they can confiscate belongings...they can take women as their slaves...if people leave then they are also entitled to the spoils that are left behind...its war economy 101...nothing unique there...

Its amusing though when you consider how furious the OP is about states like Israel...when you lose wars which the Arabs constantly did against Israel then you lose land, and you lose property...its what happens in every conflict...one can hide behind UN rulings but these arguments only have an iota of legitimacy when they come from people who dont glorify Islamic expansion...

I mean a third of Turks aren't originally Turks...they are those who were expelled from old Ottoman lands when nations won wars and became independent thus expanding their lands...its the consequence of war...

Whats 'wrong' it seems for some is WHO is doing the expanding...not the fact that expansion itself is wrong which shows a level of inconsistency...

As for my other point...i said Muhammad PBUH had an excellent strategy which is still to this day proving useful which is the fact that martyrdom guaranteed the best part of heaven...so not only were you guaranteed riches in the dunya but also in the akhirah...it was smart...and i was just commending that as a strategy...
 
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Its not about defining right and wrong...although as someone who isnt religious I certainly do see a problem...

The post was a response to the idea that everyone fought solely for ideological reasons...i was simply pointing out that it was a sweet deal on this Earth for fighters...they can confiscate property, they can confiscate belongings...they can take women as their slaves...if people leave then they are also entitled to the spoils that are left behind...its war economy 101...nothing unique there...

Its amusing though when you consider how furious the OP is about states like Israel...when you lose wars which the Arabs constantly did against Israel then you lose land, and you lose property...its what happens in every conflict...one can hide behind UN rulings but these arguments only have an iota of legitimacy when they come from people who dont glorify Islamic expansion...

I mean a third of Turks aren't originally Turks...they are those who were expelled from old Ottoman lands when nations won wars and became independent thus expanding their lands...its the consequence of war...

Whats 'wrong' it seems for some is WHO is doing the expanding...not the fact that expansion itself is wrong which shows a level of inconsistency...

As for my other point...i said Muhammad PBUH had an excellent strategy which is still to this day proving useful which is the fact that martyrdom guaranteed the best part of heaven...so not only were you guaranteed riches in the dunya but also in the akhirah...it was smart...and i was just commending that as a strategy...

Maybe you are new to this whole concept but the name of the Prophet Mohammad is ALWAYS to be accompanied by the abbrev PBUH

Clear?

I have changed your post above and if others are reading this then note also for future ref
 
Even if you don't believe in Islam, you cannot question the character and morals of the Prophet (PBUH), as well as his influence, due to which Michael H. Hart give him the #1 rank in his book "The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History."

Even his staunchest enemies didn't question his character but only his beliefs and claim to Prophethood.
 
Problem With Muhammad's(saw) critics is this. When they attack him it's called "freedom of speech" and when he is praised it's called "political correctness" as seen by an above poster. In other words he and his supporters just can't win no matter what they do. No one would accept anyone attacking their parents without any reason, even critics of the Prophet(saw) would never accept this under "freedom of speech" or rubbish like that. In many western countries denying the holocaust could lead to big trouble. I am not at all suggesting that Muslim's get mad and violent when he is attacked but the hypocrisy and double standards are for all to see here.
 
The Prophet Mohammad PBUH was not an ordinary man. WE collectively do not come close to one millionth of what he represented.

Now I understand the need to discuss things etc but on this forum we will not allow any post which questions the character of importance of Hazoor SAW.

It is a sensitive topic and if you are not discussing what is the first post then keep other discussions off this thread.
 
As for my other point...i said Muhammad PBUH had an excellent strategy which is still to this day proving useful which is the fact that martyrdom guaranteed the best part of heaven...so not only were you guaranteed riches in the dunya but also in the akhirah...it was smart...and i was just commending that as a strategy...

Why should not martyr gets highest parts of paradise. They have not seen Allah , and they are fighting and dying for that cause . Its not easy , the belief ( Iman ) has to be of highest level.

Those who have believed in Allah without seeing him or unseen things mentioned in Quran , deserve that .
 
Even if you don't believe in Islam, you cannot question the character and morals of the Prophet (PBUH), as well as his influence, due to which Michael H. Hart give him the #1 rank in his book "The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History."

Even his staunchest enemies didn't question his character but only his beliefs and claim to Prophethood.

Michael Hart made Muhammad SAW as number one in that list , not randomly , but because of a specific reason . No other person in Human history has been so successful in both religious and secular field simultaneously . he was THE person , no competition .

You see his life , from an orphan to ruler , yet his lifestyle remained same.

He was not only a prophet , but also an Imam leading prayers , general leading army , guide , law giver , father , neighbor , looking after orphans , widow etc. In 23 years he achieved such things that others could not , and the impact was such that even after his death Islam continued to grow.
 
Michael Hart made Muhammad SAW as number one in that list , not randomly , but because of a specific reason . No other person in Human history has been so successful in both religious and secular field simultaneously . he was THE person , no competition .

You see his life , from an orphan to ruler , yet his lifestyle remained same.

He was not only a prophet , but also an Imam leading prayers , general leading army , guide , law giver , father , neighbor , looking after orphans , widow etc. In 23 years he achieved such things that others could not , and the impact was such that even after his death Islam continued to grow.

Since when did Michael Hart become an authoritative source...i just find it odd how this ranking is being used when its simply a subjective opinion of one man...

Its like when people dig up quotes saying so and so random person has said this about X...you can just as easily dig up a list of people who say the opposite...

Also as Black Zero has mentioned 'influence' and 'good' aren't the same thing...

I mean Trump won 'man of the year' because of his influence not because he is good...Hitlers 39th on Harts list...so if one is going to use the source then at least use it as it should be used...
 
Would you like to suggest your own ranking?
 
Since when did Michael Hart become an authoritative source...i just find it odd how this ranking is being used when its simply a subjective opinion of one man...

Its like when people dig up quotes saying so and so random person has said this about X...you can just as easily dig up a list of people who say the opposite...

Also as Black Zero has mentioned 'influence' and 'good' aren't the same thing...

I mean Trump won 'man of the year' because of his influence not because he is good...Hitlers 39th on Harts list...so if one is going to use the source then at least use it as it should be used...

Yes , off course it is subjective opinion , but not a random one . He has given reasons behind that. If you want to discredit him , you need to give counter points.

Influence and good are not same things I agree . But what negative influence did Muhammad SAW have ?
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/01/29/muslim.inventions/ are some things that Muslim's who are the people of Muhammad(saw) have given to the world. It is the Prophet of Islam(saw) who is the root cause of this learning. Now, non Muslim's have the right to reject him as a Prophet but they do not have the right to insult him when we Muslim's are told to love him more then our parents. Similarly, I have the right to reject Paul as a Prophet but would never make any personal remarks against him offending Christian believers. There is a limit to freedom of speech as well like how we all have to respect the law of the country we live n. Islam is the law for Muslim people!
 
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