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"I can say many things too, but I'm not going to stoop to their level" : Mohammad Amir

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Fascinating.
 
What you did 10 years ago was worse than anything just about any Pakistani cricketer has done, so I'd suggest keeping your mouth shut.
 
Shoaib Akhtar is a clown. No one should take him seriously.

Having said that, Amir has no right to say things like “I’m not going to stoop to their level” after what he did in 2010.
 
He shouldn't say much either - I can ignore 2010 as foolishness by a young man and he was actually tapped into it as well; but there is no excuse to leave country (Test Cricket) at this time when team desperately needs a senior pacer to lead the attack with few exciting youngsters to look at him.
 
It's true that many have done way worse than Amir.

He spot fixed, teenager, say under pressure or lured by the captain.

This can't even be compared to how the so-called legends fixed MATCHES. Everyone loves them now and have forgotten the past, plus the justice's report.

As a professional Amir can choose to be available for any format he wants. Cricketers do it all the time. If it hurts us or our egos or the team, it's not his worry.

Though, he's also one of those who sold the team, in the same category, and has no right to pretend to be self-righteous.

He's not, he's in the same league as other fixers but it's sad that the biggest fixers are now called legends.
 
You would think somebody in amir’s position would be grateful of still having a job and would embrace any challenge given to him whether it be Odi, test or t20. The fact he was graciously accepted back into the team after serving his sentence is something he should be thanking Allah and the PCB for giving him another opportunity.

However, with all this said have to blame mickey as well for not giving amir a rest in tests when he requested it, I particularly remember this in a series against Zimbabwe. It would’ve been an excellent opportunity to start trying your bench strength.
 
He has put himself above everything else on more than one occasion so its better for him to maintain his silence and look in the mirror before pointing fingers. I have always been an advocate of 2nd chances but even after he got his chance his commitment and attitude which should have been better than before didnt show much difference. Funnily he gave statements as well as how he want to achieve things for his country after his mistake only to retire 3 years after from tests and again going after the same thing he went before but this time legally atleast.

He is indebted to Pakistan and Pak cricket big time which looks to be something he needs to be realized every now and then so that he shifts his focus towards the right things.
 
I remember a post years ago by someone who had a conversation with Amir. It was deleted and the guy wasn't sure whether he should have posted it or not.

If that conversation is true (or even otherwise) most likely there's quite a few fixers that got away with it. I think this is also why a lot of our cricketers had the mentality that somehow they'd been wronged by the crime. As if others were doing it and only they'd been punished.

As I've said before, I think we should be happy that the trio fixing scandal happened. Not sad. As it brought fixing to the limelight. If it didn't matter who knows how many more Pakistani cricketers would have fixed or continued to fix. Maybe some still do, as I said the punishment was extremely lenient on the trio, most boards would have issued life bans.
 
Unfortunately for Amir, he has lost all moral high ground to level any kind of allegation against other players. This is a handicap he has to live with for the rest of his career.

He hasn't done himself any favors by taking the easy route by retiring from Test cricket. It's heartening to see Pakistan's fast bowling stocks looking bright which means fans will easily move on from him.

I think the smart thing for him to do now is to keep his mouth shut and let his performance do the talking.
 
Amir is not going to last much longer in Pakistani colours, his ODI and T-20 form is non existant and i don't think the PCB will be interested in keeping him around only for the T-20 format. Better to move on and focus on hungry youngsters available for Pakistan in all formats.
 
Can’t wait for the day Amir plays his last match for Pakistan. Arguably the most disgraceful individual to play international cricket.
 
Not even going to talk about his disgraceful actions in 2010. But we all know he retired from test cricket for selfish reasons. He is entitled to do that but he has no business making himself some sort of victim. The PCB and the fans invested so much hope and time in him. He could have been dropped earlier for poor performances. But PCB stuck by him. They also didn't need to select him in 2016. It upset some players and media but PCB still stuck their neck out for him. And he repays Pakistan and the fans by retiring from tests .

I have lost a lot of respect for Amir.
 
Savak said:
Amir is not going to last much longer in Pakistani colours, his ODI and T-20 form is non existant and i don't think the PCB will be interested in keeping him around only for the T-20 format. Better to move on and focus on hungry youngsters available for Pakistan in all formats.
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I may be completely wrong, but I've got a feeling he doesn't want to don Pakistan colors for much longer. Perhaps he is waiting to become eligible for British citizenship and will then commit to Essex full-time. During the offseason, he'll travel across the world playing leagues. Once he becomes British, the IPL will also welcome him.
 
omairsiddiqui said:
I may be completely wrong, but I've got a feeling he doesn't want to don Pakistan colors for much longer. Perhaps he is waiting to become eligible for British citizenship and will then commit to Essex full-time. During the offseason, he'll travel across the world playing leagues. Once he becomes British, the IPL will also welcome him.
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Well he will have to perform for those teams, international teams are not like Pakistani selectors who will give players extended runs based on past heroics. Only Pakistan would persist with a bowler who was wicketless for 14 ODI's in a row
 
Pretty damn hypocritical. It's mind boggling how Amir and Butt can talk about not "stooping" to certain levels when they have been way down in the basement.

Amir is really a pathetic creature in terms of morality. He should be ashamed and keep his mouth shut. I remember all too well how this guy was coming on tv and playing the victim and trying to act as if it was something to do with Pakistan rather than his own heinous act.
 
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MMHS said:
He shouldn't say much either - I can ignore 2010 as foolishness by a young man and he was actually tapped into it as well; but there is no excuse to leave country (Test Cricket) at this time when team desperately needs a senior pacer to lead the attack with few exciting youngsters to look at him.
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His test match bowling wasn't at a good level. Even tough he was still Pakistan's best when he played, he was clearly not the Amir we wanted, or even he wanted. I really think this is why he retired, being unselfish.

In LOI's, he has lost pace, but he can bank on other skills to produce the goods and still be one of the best in the world.
 
He should have thought twice before making such a statement, keeping in mind what he did back in 2010, and even now agter retiring aged just 27 to play league cricket around the world.

The words used are right, as Shoaib is nothing more than a joke who actually deserves to be dragged to the court by the PCB for his recent statements about the Kaneria issue. However, Amir is definitely not the person making these kind of comments, as spot-fixing was surely not something his parents taught him during his upbringing.
 
As the saying goes...it’s never too late to come clean. Unless Amir has a 3rd birth I think we’ve seen the best of him. Won’t be surprised if he comes back in 10 years and tries to earn fame from this story just like the rest of Pakistani cricketers.
 
can't wait till he's replaced in the ODI and T20. Shaheen, Naseem, Shinwari, Rauf, Hussnain, Hassan - who need Amir's drama
 
Mamoon said:
Can’t wait for the day Amir plays his last match for Pakistan. Arguably the most disgraceful individual to play international cricket.
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Some serious mercenaries out there. AB Devilliers and a few of the West Indians are pretty bad also.
 
Mamoon said:
Can’t wait for the day Amir plays his last match for Pakistan. Arguably the most disgraceful individual to play international cricket.
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Don't you think that would be Mohammad Asif instead?
 
And your parents taught you to sell your country? Beghairat insaan.
 
Woooohooo!

Why people are going crazy over one balanced statement Amir has given. Now before people start saying curse words too me, lets think about logically :

I have never been supporter of match fixer and those should be punished. I think what Amir did he got it. And I would still give him benefit of doubt for a young 18 years old who got entangled into this by his own captain. World bowling was on his feet and he was superstar in making, it would be super idiot from any human being to do spot fixing when he was a teenage superstar. We might not be aware of what judges during his trial has got, and that is why he got leniency. On the other hand we have Mr. Butt who was saying not guilty until there was no option left, and still some media sections support him so well.

Now referring to Amir's statement, I am more convinced that in 2010 spot fixing , there were other players or officials were involved too, but since they were not part of those no balls, so got off the hook. Amir might be referring to that.

We have 100's of Akmal's supporters based on God knows which past performance. so if past performance and talent is the criteria then Amir should be the first one to be part of the team. But no one wants to support a good bowler who was instrumental in winning us CT 2017. Plus his performance was not bad in WC 2019. 5 years out of the game at young age was a heavy punishment, 1 year in jail as a teenage was a heavy punishment. He played some tests and realized his body can not cope up with it, and might lose everything that he is left with.

I think after Babar , he is the only player in our line up, international teams respect or recognize. Otherwise we are left with only jokers such as Shehzads, Akmals, Butts, etc.

And the person who has questionable credibility is Shoaib Akhtar. Spread any story or lies for YT views and let the people guess who did it. And whatever he said about Kaneria's incident is farce. Because as I know, when Inzi was highly religious , still Kaneria played that 2007 WC. So I don't think some one would do that to him. Akhtar's approach is very straightforward, say anything about X, and then people would think who the hell did that? And then people will view his videos more, and then he keeps on making it.. I still remember the problem child for Pakistan in 2000's were Shoaib Akhtar and Shahid Afridi. Had Pakistan cricket management invested in level headed people (not Misbah), we might have different team culture and legacy
 
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Mamoon said:
Can’t wait for the day Amir plays his last match for Pakistan. Arguably the most disgraceful individual to play international cricket.
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I think that day may be near. I dont think he has any passion left to play for his country any more. He wanted to use that as a springboard to get league contracts and now he can happily play around the world.
 
HEYY said:
Whats this about?? Shoaib and Amir have issues between them????
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Shoaib has issues with everyone. He will end up in deep trouble soon enough if he keeps going down this route.

Having said that, Amir should be ashamed of himself. A country that accepts you back as a hero after what you did, you proceed to slap it in the face by saying I'm not interested in playing for you anymore. He doesn't need to stoop to any level, he is already in the last level possible and has no respect left.
 
The gall on this guy to play the victim card. Buddy you have already been to the lowest level possible, whats up with this rubbish self righteous talk of not stooping to someone else's level?
You retired from test cricket early after PCB invested so much in you. You always have been money hungry lalchi.
 
Mamoon said:
Can’t wait for the day Amir plays his last match for Pakistan. Arguably the most disgraceful individual to play international cricket.
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He’s not the flavour of the month just now & his past is there for everyone to see but...Arguably not even in the top 10 most disgraceful individuals to play international cricket.
 
I don't know why people are upset,
Amir has never been that bowler we wanted after his come back. He's made the right decision to quit test cricket as he was becoming baggage.

Most of you wanted him dropped anyways so why all the hue and cry?
 
People are coming with different names, but I have to say that Amir is certainly more disgraceful than them all. No fixer in history has received as much love and support from his team and his people than he has, but his entitlement is disgusting.

He is under the impression that he doesn’t owe anyone anything. He is completely wrong - he owes everything to PCB and the Pakistan cricket fans.

He has paid them back by retiring from Test cricket in his prime within 3 years of his comeback. Even Butt and Asif would have been more grateful to get another chance to play for Pakistan. If the PCB had any inclination of the stunt that he was going to pull off, I don’t think they would have gone from pillar to post to fast-track him.

I also agree that he doesn’t want to play for Pakistan anymore. He seems to have mapped it out perfectly. Retire from Test cricket now and utilize that time to earn franchise money, play ODIs and T20Is till the 2023 World Cup and then retire from international cricket at the age of 31-32, focusing on franchise and County cricket.

I hope PCB pours cold water on his ambitions and not give him a central contract from next year onwards. For once, it is time to teach him a lesson.
 
Many people saying that aamir retired so early is selfishness but a few months ago they were calling for his head , the fact is that he made the right decision by retiring from test cricket. His career was going nowhere in test cricket , his performances were below par. Tell me , has he taken any fiver in test cricket (apart from 1against west indies) after his comeback despite playing in places like england , south africa , newzealand and australia? 1 fiver in 22 test matches after his return was not something which could keep him in the game.

He should watch his mouth though when talking about others doing worse things.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Many people saying that aamir retired so early is selfishness but a few months ago they were calling for his head ,
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JibranAnsari said:
the fact is that he made the right decision by retiring from test cricket. His career was going nowhere in test cricket , his performances were below par. Tell me , has he taken any fiver in test cricket (apart from 1against west indies) after his comeback despite playing in places like england , south africa , newzealand and australia? 1 fiver in 22 test matches after his return was not something which could keep him in the game.

He should watch his mouth though when talking about others doing worse things.
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People wanted him to get dropped from the Test team so that he can work hard in FC and come back as a better Test bowler.

They did not expect him to run away like a coward because he does not have the heart to work hard.

It is his life at the end of the day, but it is also clear that he is extremely selfish and ungrateful. PCB needs to make him realize that he owes everything to Pakistan cricket.

It is time PCB prepares for life after him because he is clearly not fully committed to Pakistan cricket and he can quit LOIs at any point without looking back.
 
Mamoon said:


People wanted him to get dropped from the Test team so that he can work hard in FC and come back as a better Test bowler.

They did not expect him to run away like a coward because he does not have the heart to work hard.

It is his life at the end of the day, but it is also clear that he is extremely selfish and ungrateful. PCB needs to make him realize that he owes everything to Pakistan cricket.

It is time PCB prepares for life after him because he is clearly not fully committed to Pakistan cricket and he can quit LOIs at any point without looking back.
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Off course, he is selfish but can you blame him? Most cricketers will take his route, if they have a choice. Cricket is their bread and butter.
Anyways, why expect Amir to play test cricket. He is a proven spot fixer. He wouldn't have done it if Green jersey meant anything to him. Growing up i thought Indian cricketers as role models who represent India but now i see them as just entertainers. Even normal public don't react emotionally much. IPL has changed perception of cricketers in their eyes.
 
The guy is not really a big loss. Extremely over rated cricketer and bowler.
 
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at least when shoaib took the field to play he gave it his all . injuries or not. Amir is so inept that he will not put any effort into his body to be Test match ready. he simply gave him on his nation for selfish reasons. we know T20 is masala cricket and he chose that as his primary. Pakistan should revoke his contract so he can end his career in international leagues as his bowling is impotent now. He cannot move the ball like he used to. He has dropped 20 kph while being in his prime bowling age. His batting has dropped to a number 11 quality.
 
Mamoon said:
People are coming with different names, but I have to say that Amir is certainly more disgraceful than them all. No fixer in history has received as much love and support from his team and his people than he has, but his entitlement is disgusting.

He is under the impression that he doesn’t owe anyone anything. He is completely wrong - he owes everything to PCB and the Pakistan cricket fans.

He has paid them back by retiring from Test cricket in his prime within 3 years of his comeback. Even Butt and Asif would have been more grateful to get another chance to play for Pakistan. If the PCB had any inclination of the stunt that he was going to pull off, I don’t think they would have gone from pillar to post to fast-track him.

I also agree that he doesn’t want to play for Pakistan anymore. He seems to have mapped it out perfectly. Retire from Test cricket now and utilize that time to earn franchise money, play ODIs and T20Is till the 2023 World Cup and then retire from international cricket at the age of 31-32, focusing on franchise and County cricket.

I hope PCB pours cold water on his ambitions and not give him a central contract from next year onwards. For once, it is time to teach him a lesson.
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agree with you, he is a very selfish person who can anything for money.
 
Mobashir said:
His test match bowling wasn't at a good level. Even tough he was still Pakistan's best when he played, he was clearly not the Amir we wanted, or even he wanted. I really think this is why he retired, being unselfish.

In LOI's, he has lost pace, but he can bank on other skills to produce the goods and still be one of the best in the world.
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I don't agree. How often does a 27 year old retire from tests because he lost form? He should have worked on returning back to his best. After the second opportunity he received, Pakistan fans are justified at being angry towards Amir for making himself unavailable for selection as that wasn't his call to make.
 
People can try and defend him , that is their choice. Just like it is Amir decision to retire from tests. But he is clearly a selfish person who has no appreciation for the support he has received. If he was English or Australia he would have been banished away long ago. Never mind being begged to return by our fans and PCB giving him special treatment.
 
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