"I expect Pakistan board will arrange neutral venue for us as they did for WI" : BCB's Nazmul Hassan

[Abdullah719]

"I expect Pakistan board will arrange neutral venue for us as they did for WI" : BCB's Nazmul Hassan

Bangladesh national cricket team’s Pakistan tour is still under cloud as Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) president Nazmul Hassan on Thursday said that the board is yet to get a positive response from the government to tour Pakistan.

He said that many of the national players are not agreed to go to Pakistan to play a full series.

In the proposed series, Bangladesh are scheduled to play a three-match T20I and two-match Test series against their sub-continental rivals.

“We have been facing several issues before finalizing the tour of Pakistan. There are a few numbers of stakeholders. We have to respect the opinions of every party before going to play a full series in Pakistan. At this moment, I don’t think we have a chance to tour Pakistan to play a Test series,” Nazmul Hassan told the media on Thursday at the BCB headquarters in Mirpur.

“We have to make sure that we secure the positive response from the government's authorities. Before that, we have to talk to the players, coaching staff, and of course, we have to hear the final decision of the board. At the same time, we have to take the security situation of Pakistan under consideration. Our women’s team and Under-16 national team have toured Pakistan this year. So the security situation is not that bad. Despite that, there are some risks in playing in Pakistan,” Nazmul added.

Nazmul also said that most of the coaching staff is reluctant to tour Pakistan. However, some of the players and coaching staff have no objection touring Pakistan if it is for a shorter period of time, he added.

“But we have sent a response to Pakistan board saying that we are trying to tour Pakistan only for the three-match T20Is series. We told them to host the Test series in a neutral venue. We have got security clearance from some of the government’s authorities. We need to get more clearance which might arrive within two-three days. After securing all the government’s clearance, we will make the final decision,” Nazmul further told the media.

BCB proposed Pakistan to tour to play T20I series, albeit they didn't get the security clearance from the respective government agencies, as Nazmul said, “We need to secure the clearance for T20I series. This is the first thing. We have decided to bring the members from Directorate General of Forces Intelligence (DGFI) and National Security Intelligence (NSI) along with our security personnel. Since it is our first Pakistan tour in more than a decade, we don’t want to take any risk.”

If Bangladesh remain firm on their decision, the Pakistan board might bring the issue on the table of the International Cricket Council (ICC). As the Test series of this tour is a part of World Test Championship, Bangladesh might face trouble if they deny the tour. However, Nazmul is not worried about this.

“We are not worried about this. The decision is our, we have to take our decision whether we want to go to Pakistan or not. We have to think about our players and coaching staff. So we are not worried about other things. We didn’t say that we won’t go. But since it is the first tour in years, there are some fears. We don’t want to force anyone to tour Pakistan,” Nazmul added.

“I expect Pakistan board will arrange a neutral venue for us as they did for the West Indies. I don’t think they have any problem to treat us like the West Indies,” he further told the media.

https://www.unb.com.bd/category/Sports/bangladeshs-pakistan-tour-under-cloud/39400

 

[Rana]

Mr Nazmul Hussain, how could you send your U16s and women to Pakistan if you have security concerns for men? Are the lives of your children and women less valuable?

 

[Xoib]

When?

Last time windies were here it was 2016.

 

[warcry]

nah we dont host minnows in neutral conditions.

look at them, comparing themselves with two time odi & t20 worldcup & champions trophy winners.
i havent even begun about the contributions west indies have made in enriching test cricket.

in fact no cricket is preferable to be playing bangladesh, be at home or overseas, we only forced to play them due to ftp commitment.

 

[Rana]

nah we dont host minnows in neutral conditions.

look at them, comparing themselves with two time odi & t20 worldcup & champions trophy winners.
i havent even begun about the contributions west indies have made in enriching test cricket.

in fact no cricket is preferable to be playing bangladesh, be at home or overseas, we only forced to play them due to ftp commitment.

It’s a major series for Babar Azam to score 300* off 350 balls and get his average to 50 in the process. We need this to happen.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Who do these people think they are??

You're MINNOWS.

I don't even remember if you've even a single test match yet in SENA or not, let alone a test series.

If Sri Lanka (a far better test team than BD) can visit despite them being the ones who were attacked in 2009. What excuse do you have?

 

[warcry]

pakistan would have to lose two wickets for that to happen

we could be 500/0 against them and declare and win by innings. in both tests

end result: Shan Massod reaches an average of 40.
Abid Ali starts averaging 700.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

"After securing all the government's clearance"))

 

[angrypathan]

Poor Papon, even a gust of wind would bruise his ego

 

[Shafi]

I hope PCB will get the message and cancel the series. We shouldn't show any interest to play with them in future. Any sane person know who is behind that. PCB shouldn't bother to complain to ICC.

 

[Banton10]

Bcci is behind this whole saga.

 

[Hitman]

Bcci is behind this whole saga.

Yes, the evil BCCI backed up by the racist ICC.

 

[Titan24]

If BD can pay for that than it might be considered and if they are not going to pay than don’t understand why do they expect favours from Pakistan when they are the ones who have the issues travelling to Pak.

If anything BD should be arranging the neutral venue and ask as they have the issues. Pak has done the heavy lifting of costs for quite sometime and now when everything is as good as it gets for having tours at home there is no point for them to incur those costs again because someone is not willing to tour without any solid reasoning.

 

[DoosraTeesra]

Play in Pakistan or forfeit. Pakistan should no longer tolerate any further disrespect and disregard of her fans. We have successfully proven with our fool-proof security that test matches can be held in Pakistan.

 

[Veteran]

A lot of disrespect being shown to Bangladesh in some of these comments. Arrogance and disrespect towards Bengalis led to the breakup of the country. I grew up in East Pakistan and remember the sneering attitude of a lot of West Pakistanis. I also remember how East Pakistani cricketers were not given opportunities and personally saw how a promising East Pakistani cricketer was deliberately run out so he would be out of the running for selection. People like myself who have lived in what was East Pakistan know how much Bengalis suffered because of Pakistan behaving like a colonial power. That some people here still use the same kind of rhetoric of superiority is very sad. We need to be more humble and conciliatory. There is a lot of history here and it is naive to see it in simplistic terms such as in the frequently stated point that Bangladesh owes us because we helped them obtain test status.

 

[sweep_shot]

Play in Pakistan or forfeit. Pakistan should no longer tolerate any further disrespect and disregard of her fans. We have successfully proven with our fool-proof security that test matches can be held in Pakistan.

I don't think ICC will force any team to tour Pakistan. Apart from SL and West Indies, I don't see any other nation touring Pakistan for Test. Even West Indies may decline Test.

Bangladesh can come but relation needs to be better before it happens.

 

[ZamanFan]

After so much sabre rattling why Pcb has gone silent,
is PCB still waiting for an official response?
The excuse of no govt. clearance is coming. Looks like Bcb is not happy Pakistan is hosting tournaments and wants this banter and propaganda to continue. Mani and wasim need to make a decision soon as they are going to b3 called cowards and jokes which they kind of are. They will be laughed at for giving noc to pak players for bpl and when Bangladeshi players take part in Psl.

Just need to call off the tour and ask Pak players to return
indian board and bcb are more interested in scoring talking points and keeping the discussion which is eroding the effect created by Sl tour. Afghanistan is another board Pakistan needs to stay away with. Time to vacate from acc, the most useless organization.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

I don't understand why can't these both boards grow up and have the T20I in Jan and the tests in March right before SA yours

I am pretty sure if BD your for T20I they will come for tests

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don't understand why can't these both boards grow up and have the T20I in Jan and the tests in March right before SA yours

I am pretty sure if BD your for T20I they will come for tests

When is the SA tour?

 

[andy0204]

Play in Pakistan or forfeit. Pakistan should no longer tolerate any further disrespect and disregard of her fans. We have successfully proven with our fool-proof security that test matches can be held in Pakistan.

I know its been 10 years since you have played in your home but you cant expect that all teams will come here to play you need to be patient.
First improve your grounds then invite them,till then play psl and t20 series here.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

A lot of disrespect being shown to Bangladesh in some of these comments. Arrogance and disrespect towards Bengalis led to the breakup of the country. I grew up in East Pakistan and remember the sneering attitude of a lot of West Pakistanis. I also remember how East Pakistani cricketers were not given opportunities and personally saw how a promising East Pakistani cricketer was deliberately run out so he would be out of the running for selection. People like myself who have lived in what was East Pakistan know how much Bengalis suffered because of Pakistan behaving like a colonial power. That some people here still use the same kind of rhetoric of superiority is very sad. We need to be more humble and conciliatory. There is a lot of history here and it is naive to see it in simplistic terms such as in the frequently stated point that Bangladesh owes us because we helped them obtain test status.

I'm personally sorry for the attitude displayed by some of the people here and everywhere else that's disrespectful.

The burden of history weighs heavy and we Pakistanis should never forget it but such has been the educational system that we sweep all of that under the carpet.

On topic - Bangladesh citing security reasons in the current climate is a bad excuse. South Asia is volatile and the English team visited Bangladesh under a cloud of security and I'm sure the same can be done for the BD team too. A test team has visited Pakistan and that event isn't even a week old. Bangladesh is a proud nation that's doing well economically and is also starting to become a good cricket team.

It's high time that both of these countries mend their relationship and act sensibly for a better collective future.

 

[Pete Rose]

Play them in the t20 and do tests in neutral venue. Every team has to see it to understand it. I believe one/some sri Lankan players regret not coming earlier after having seen the security.

This is a process and we shouldn't let ego get in the way of it.

 

[hur rizvi]

Play them in the t20 and do tests in neutral venue. Every team has to see it to understand it. I believe one/some sri Lankan players regret not coming earlier after having seen the security.

This is a process and we shouldn't let ego get in the way of it.

Play T20s and postpone tests but shouldn’t play them at neutral venue

 

[MMHS]

I told you guys - I know Papon personally . Those few cancelled games in 2017 cost BCB that time ..... it has to cost PCB something
[MENTION=3505]Veteran[/MENTION] - not the best time I guess as the emotions are high; may be sometimes later I’ll share few stories from my family which was ideologically divided by three generations.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Goverment clearance? Why are pakistan and bangladesh at war? PCB should just cancel your and tell BCB to get lost.

 

[MMHS]

Goverment clearance? Why are pakistan and bangladesh at war? PCB should just cancel your and tell BCB to get lost.

True - that was exactly my question two years back. We were not at war, no diplomatic crisis - then why PCB cancelled the tour at last moment?

I don’t think BCB is asking for anything here - rather they have informed their stand and asked PCB to oblige or get lost.

What Misbah or Azhar did is good for charming blogs, PakPassion - but do you think any maturity was practiced there?

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Relax bro. Why are you opening the door for everyone to bash you. Time is not at your side and your filthy arrogance will make things worse only.

From being BCCI’s poodle, now the storyline has changed .... but I knew always the fact behind: PCB has to pay back for that last minute cancelled series and it’ll continue if the attitude doesn’t change. For that, I actually gave a clue - a quick trip by Mani or WK to Dhaka could have cracked some codes. Instead, PCB went for the usual route - this time even using coach & captain..... then I read about the worth of Bangladesh team against the might of Pakistan t*alunt... I wonder if this is after one win against a depleted SRL team after winning a crucial toss, what could have happened had you really made Aussies sweat a bit!!!

Regarding PAKs support - yes, it needed 6 votes and PCB was one of the voters, apart from that not sure what was PAK’s contribution? Don’t go to that WC “forfeited” game much - you’ll be foolish to believe that a country was given Test status based on one ODI game. By that logic Ireland & Kenya .... you know,

I don’t understand why you guys are going to this route? You do have a valid point being upset with BCB (not me - will never forget why that series in 2017 was cancelled; we are not in war, there was no diplomatic crisis and it was PCB’s reluctance not to host BD in UAE..., then they cancelled that series at last moment!!!!!). BUT, if you think bullying, calling names, questioning “t*lunt”, threatening to withdraw PAK players for BPL is going to work - you are waiting for a surprise. The same route you think BD is not worthy opponents ... imagine what your talunts should be treated like ....

I think pakistan should accept Bangladesh for T20is only and postpone tests until March or April. Then maybe Bangladesh will be happy with the security.

 

[Artaxerxes]

PCB should cancel the series with Bangladesh.We gain nothing from playing with BD.We have a proud history of playin good cricket.Our team suffered because we could not play at home for 10 years.It is only a matter of time before Pakistan becomes a top team.

 

[Hyperion66]

I told you guys - I know Papon personally ��. Those few cancelled games in 2017 cost BCB that time ..... it has to cost PCB something��

Guy is a no nonsense boss, I am a fan. You are lucky to have a strong administrator like him, knows the strength of his position and not shy to use it. Any other BCB head would have succumbed to the pressure by now.

 

[MMHS]

Guy is a no nonsense boss, I am a fan. You are lucky to have a strong administrator like him, knows the strength of his position and not shy to use it. Any other BCB head would have succumbed to the pressure by now.

Won’t - I can tell you that. Most people here are making one fundamental mistake - Hasina is behind it for her hate. Partially true, but no matter who is in power PAK will never achieve anything from BD with their usual attitude.

PCB made two mistakes- me is to cancel last tour and second one was not hosting BD in UAE, when they were ready to host others.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Won’t - I can tell you that. Most people here are making one fundamental mistake - Hasina is behind it for her hate. Partially true, but no matter who is in power PAK will never achieve anything from BD with their usual attitude.

PCB made two mistakes- me is to cancel last tour and second one was not hosting BD in UAE, when they were ready to host others.

I have read that it was not financially viable to host Bangladesh in UAE, thats why it never happened.

 

[Hyperion66]

PCB made two mistakes- me is to cancel last tour and second one was not hosting BD in UAE, when they were ready to host others.

They always sight financial reasons for not hosting BD in UAE yet BD would most definitely generate more revenue in UAE than the likes of SL, WI and dare I say perhaps even NZ due to a huge and dedicated fan-base. They would understand that if they had a little more brain and a tad less ego.

 

[Ronaldo7]

They always sight financial reasons for not hosting BD in UAE yet BD would most definitely generate more revenue in UAE than the likes of SL, WI and dare I say perhaps even NZ due to a huge and dedicated fan-base. They would understand that if they had a little more brain and a tad less ego.

Why did it take YOU so long to invite Bangladesh??

 

[MenInG]

Guys dont make it personal about each other.

 

[Slim]

They always sight financial reasons for not hosting BD in UAE yet BD would most definitely generate more revenue in UAE than the likes of SL, WI and dare I say perhaps even NZ due to a huge and dedicated fan-base. They would understand that if they had a little more brain and a tad less ego.

Is this why you invite bangladesh every year for a test series? Oh wait...my hypocrisy meters is going off the charts.

 

[Slim]

At the end of the day, it is Bangladesh's call. If they want to play, most welcome. If not, then no problem. If they only want to play t20Is, let them play but let ICC know that we are not organising tests anywhere else unless BCB is ready to bear costs for UAE.

 

[SARJ_BD]

Pakistan's Point of View:
We have damaged ourselves in hosting cricket in UAE. Pakistan is safe, and Srilanka series proves that Pakistan is ready to host any country now. Thus, Bangladesh has no excuse not to come.

Bangladesh's Perspective:
1. Once there was a terrorist attack on player, what is the guarantee that such thing will happen again?
2. Our foreign coaches are not happy to go to Pakistan.
3. Players are not comfortable in locking themselves in hotel rooms. They like shopping, having food in different restaurants, none of these are possible in Pakistan. All these are important to keep high morals during matches.
4. Since with Pakistan there always is an option of hosting in UAE, why not?
5. Australia, England, New Zealand did not risk themselves going to Pakistan, why should we?

My opinion:
Bangladesh should definitely be treated as much as Srilanka. Srilanka refused to play Test innitially. Did Pak fans bashed them like the way they are bashing Bangladesh? PCB must persue Bd to play t20s initially and postpone Test for 6 months maybe.

 

[Hyperion66]

Why did it take YOU so long to invite Bangladesh??

How is this even relevant? Pakistan wants to host BD in Pak, while BD wants to play in UAE sighting examples of WI and SL. Since PCB is the one crying financial loss, I pointed out that considering the viewership and tv deal PCB would probably earn more by hosting BD in UAE than WI, SL and even NZ.

Neither BD is complaining for not being able to tour India for so long nor refused the last tour. Since you had to bring this up, I must say BCCI took so long to invite BD due to reasons best known to them, I am neither their spokesperson nor privy to such information but what I can say purely as a cricket fan that they should have invited BD at least a couple times last decade, I don't know why they didn't.
[MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION] just cause you learned a new word doesn't mean you have to throw it around to show off, please point out the 'Hypocrisy' in my post.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Pakistan's Point of View:
We have damaged ourselves in hosting cricket in UAE. Pakistan is safe, and Srilanka series proves that Pakistan is ready to host any country now. Thus, Bangladesh has no excuse not to come.

Bangladesh's Perspective:
1. Once there was a terrorist attack on player, what is the guarantee that such thing will happen again?
2. Our foreign coaches are not happy to go to Pakistan.
3. Players are not comfortable in locking themselves in hotel rooms. They like shopping, having food in different restaurants, none of these are possible in Pakistan. All these are important to keep high morals during matches.
4. Since with Pakistan there always is an option of hosting in UAE, why not?
5. Australia, England, New Zealand did not risk themselves going to Pakistan, why should we?

My opinion:
Bangladesh should definitely be treated as much as Srilanka. Srilanka refused to play Test innitially. Did Pak fans bashed them like the way they are bashing Bangladesh? PCB must persue Bd to play t20s initially and postpone Test for 6 months maybe.

Your third point is outdated.

Sri Lanka went to restaurants,they talked to the Pakistani public, they went shopping as well. Pictures can be found on Saj Sadiq's twitter and maybe on this forum too. You can even find some videos on the PCB YT channel.

You sent your u16 and women's team to Pakistan but are unwilling to send your men's team why?
Is it because you think your women's and u16's lives are not as precious?

 

[sweep_shot]

Pakistan's Point of View:
We have damaged ourselves in hosting cricket in UAE. Pakistan is safe, and Srilanka series proves that Pakistan is ready to host any country now. Thus, Bangladesh has no excuse not to come.

Bangladesh's Perspective:
1. Once there was a terrorist attack on player, what is the guarantee that such thing will happen again?
2. Our foreign coaches are not happy to go to Pakistan.
3. Players are not comfortable in locking themselves in hotel rooms. They like shopping, having food in different restaurants, none of these are possible in Pakistan. All these are important to keep high morals during matches.
4. Since with Pakistan there always is an option of hosting in UAE, why not?
5. Australia, England, New Zealand did not risk themselves going to Pakistan, why should we?

My opinion:
Bangladesh should definitely be treated as much as Srilanka. Srilanka refused to play Test innitially. Did Pak fans bashed them like the way they are bashing Bangladesh? PCB must persue Bd to play t20s initially and postpone Test for 6 months maybe.

I agree with your post. This is my exact stance also.

When SL delayed the Tests, there wasn't any fuss. But, with BD, Pakistan are showing aggressive approach. It is obviously not going to work as Pakistan have zero leverage over BCB (or any other board).

Their argument is SL is a former world champion and BD is "minnow". Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that in real life.

I want the tour to go ahead but there is a strange aggressive approach. I think this is what is keeping the Test tour from happening.

 

[Ronaldo7]

How is this even relevant? Pakistan wants to host BD in Pak, while BD wants to play in UAE sighting examples of WI and SL. Since PCB is the one crying financial loss, I pointed out that considering the viewership and tv deal PCB would probably earn more by hosting BD in UAE than WI, SL and even NZ.

Neither BD is complaining for not being able to tour India for so long nor refused the last tour. Since you had to bring this up, I must say BCCI took so long to invite BD due to reasons best known to them, I am neither their spokesperson nor privy to such information but what I can say purely as a cricket fan that they should have invited BD at least a couple times last decade, I don't know why they didn't.
[MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION] just cause you learned a new word doesn't mean you have to throw it around to show off, please point out the 'Hypocrisy' in my post.

Guess what?
WI and Sri Lanka have both visited Pakistan.

So they can't be used as an example.

 

[Ronaldo7]

I agree with your post. This is my exact stance also.

When SL delayed the Tests, there wasn't any fuss. But, with BD, Pakistan are showing aggressive approach. It is obviously not going to work as Pakistan have zero leverage over BCB (or any other board).

Their argument is SL is a former world champion and BD is "minnow". Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that in real life.

There was no fuss because Sri Lanka was supposed to be the first team since 2009 to tour us to play test matches. So we had to ease them in.
They may have felt a bit scared and rightly so because no other team before them had toured Pakistan for test matches so they weren't sure if Pakistan was actually safe or not.

You were supposed to be the SECOND team.
Looking at the Sri Lankan series, you know that Pakistan is safe for cricket. So you can't use the same excuse as them.

 

[SARJ_BD]

Your third point is outdated.

Sri Lanka went to restaurants,they talked to the Pakistani public, they went shopping as well. Pictures can be found on Saj Sadiq's twitter and maybe on this forum too. You can even find some videos on the PCB YT channel.

You sent your u16 and women's team to Pakistan but are unwilling to send your men's team why?
Is it because you think your women's and u16's lives are not as precious?

Answer to your question lies on point # 2, 4 and 5
YES I agree point #3 is outdated

 

[ahsan17]

Pakistan's Point of View:
We have damaged ourselves in hosting cricket in UAE. Pakistan is safe, and Srilanka series proves that Pakistan is ready to host any country now. Thus, Bangladesh has no excuse not to come.

Bangladesh's Perspective:
1. Once there was a terrorist attack on player, what is the guarantee that such thing will happen again?
2. Our foreign coaches are not happy to go to Pakistan.
3. Players are not comfortable in locking themselves in hotel rooms. They like shopping, having food in different restaurants, none of these are possible in Pakistan. All these are important to keep high morals during matches.
4. Since with Pakistan there always is an option of hosting in UAE, why not?
5. Australia, England, New Zealand did not risk themselves going to Pakistan, why should we?

My opinion:
Bangladesh should definitely be treated as much as Srilanka. Srilanka refused to play Test innitially. Did Pak fans bashed them like the way they are bashing Bangladesh? PCB must persue Bd to play t20s initially and postpone Test for 6 months maybe.

Here's what I will say.

1) The attack was 10 years, almost 11 years ago. At some point you have to say that something that long ago has to become irrelevant and you have to look at current ground reality. Terrorism has declined by 90%+ in that time, and it's at multi-decades low. Pakistan is as safe, or safer than when teams used to regularly visit Pakistan.
2) Point taken
3) Not true anymore
4) PCB has changed their stance now, in the last few weeks. They said they will not host in UAE anymore.
5) Same as above, PCB has changed their stance quite strongly in the last few weeks. I believe they will strongly push all teams to play in Pakistan.

 

[Hyperion66]

Guess what?
WI and Sri Lanka have both visited Pakistan.

So they can't be used as an example.

Correct me if I am wrong, SL first played a t20 series and after that went well then only they sent their full strength test side, why can't the same courtesy be extended to BD? As fer as I know they are willing to come for the t20 series.

BTW when did WI play a test series in Pak? I am sorry, I must have missed it.

 

[ahsan17]

I agree with your post. This is my exact stance also.

When SL delayed the Tests, there wasn't any fuss. But, with BD, Pakistan are showing aggressive approach. It is obviously not going to work as Pakistan have zero leverage over BCB (or any other board).

Their argument is SL is a former world champion and BD is "minnow". Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that in real life.

I want the tour to go ahead but there is a strange aggressive approach. I think this is what is keeping the Test tour from happening.

The approach by both PCB and BCB is not good.

On BCB side, the SL series was originally planned to be played separately in the FTP. The BD series was not planned as such.

On PCB side, they should have nevertheless asked BCB to split the series similar to what happened to SL, even though the series had not been originally planned like that in the FTP.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Correct me if I am wrong, SL first played a t20 series and after that went well then only they sent their full strength test side, why can't the same courtesy be extended to BD? As fer as I know they are willing to come for the t20 series.

BTW when did WI play a test series in Pak? I am sorry, I must have missed it.

We never said that they can't play the T20is first but now they're saying that they're not going to come for the T20is either because their coaches are not ready. So that is really frustrating for the PCB

 

[the Great Khan]

Actually the reason the pCB is angry is because they were making progress. The bcb were happy to send their women and u16''s etc..so the pcb assumed they would do the same with the men..but once again just when Pakistan cricket needed some support they are betrayed again.. this will directly effect our tour to England and is once again timed to intentionally damage our cricket..

 

[sweep_shot]

If UAE is too expensive, maybe they can play in Hong Kong or something. There are so many neutral grounds.

 

[Saj]

If UAE is too expensive, maybe they can play in Hong Kong or something. There are so many neutral grounds.

They don't need to play in UAE, Hong Kong or Timbuktu. Pakistan is safe for international cricket and that is where they should be playing.

 

[Hyperion66]

We never said that they can't play the T20is first but now they're saying that they're not going to come for the T20is either because their coaches are not ready. So that is really frustrating for the PCB

Wow that escalated quickly, I wasn't aware of the latest development. Seems like PCB's over aggressiveness backfired royally.

 

[khan_aa]

Pakistan should cancel the series with Bdesh, invite ireland for a test series and ODIs.

 

[wasimjunior]

They don't need to play in UAE, Hong Kong or Timbuktu. Pakistan is safe for international cricket.

Especially against minnows...

 

[khan_aa]

also, pakistan should write to ICC that BCB is invited for tour and they did not comply. state that pakistan will visit for a tour to bdesh and fulfil its commitment. 120 points should be awarded to pakistan for bdesh's no show.

 

[sweep_shot]

also, pakistan should write to ICC that BCB is invited for tour and they did not comply. state that pakistan will visit for a tour to bdesh and fulfil its commitment. 120 points should be awarded to pakistan for bdesh's no show.

That's a great idea although I am sure ICC is unlikely to penalize BD because then other countries will have to be penalized too.

Pakistan can obviously try but I doubt it will do anything.

Especially against minnows...

This type of attitude doesn't help your cause but carry on.

 

[wasimjunior]

also, pakistan should write to ICC that BCB is invited for tour and they did not comply. state that pakistan will visit for a tour to bdesh and fulfil its commitment. 120 points should be awarded to pakistan for bdesh's no show.

Pakistan should refuse to go Bangladesh too and cite safety issues. Let's see if they play their home series in the UAE

 

[RehanG]

They should ask Ban to bear for all the costs for a series in UAE. If they agree fine, otherwise it has to be played in Pak.

 

[sweep_shot]

They don't need to play in UAE, Hong Kong or Timbuktu. Pakistan is safe for international cricket and that is where they should be playing.

Don't get me wrong. I personally think that Pakistan is safe for cricket. But, that view is not shared by BD coaching staffs and some players. We have a lot of foreign coaches/staffs and most of them don't want to come.

Since most teams don't want to play Test in Pakistan and Pakistan gladly hosts them in UAE, it is fair that BD gets to play at neutral venues if players/staffs don't feel like coming.

If UAE is too expensive for Pakistan to host BD, there are always other cheaper options. Some cricket is better than no cricket.

 

[Saj]

Don't get me wrong. I personally think that Pakistan is safe for cricket. But, that view is not shared by BD coaching staffs and some players. We have a lot of foreign coaches/staffs and most of them don't want to come.

Since most teams don't want to play Test in Pakistan and Pakistan gladly hosts them in UAE, it is fair that BD gets to play at neutral venues if players/staffs don't feel like coming.

If UAE is too expensive for Pakistan to host BD, there are always other cheaper options. Some cricket is better than no cricket.

Bangladesh's own security team that visited Pakistan has declared Pakistan safe for international cricket.

The ICC sent their own security team to Pakistan ahead of the Sri Lanka series and were happy with the security.

The ICC sent their own match officials to Pakistan during the Sri Lanka series. They would not have done that if they did not deem the country safe.

The Sri Lankan team has just played 2 Tests in Pakistan and been very complimentary of the security and of Pakistan.

But I guess, some Bangladesh players and their coaching staff know best.

 

[ahsan17]

Pakistan should refuse to go Bangladesh too and cite safety issues. Let's see if they play their home series in the UAE

You can actually make a decent argument based on safety against playing in BD. I would encourage PCB does that if BCB does more drama.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Confused & strange comments coming from BCB President Nazmul Hassan "I expect PCB will arrange a neutral venue for us as they did for West Indies"<br><br>He seems to be forgetting the neutral venue for West Indies was in 2016 & since then they have played in Pakistan.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvBAN?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvBAN</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1210247401598046211?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[ahsan17]

The WI series was in 2016. Since then, PCB has hosted numerous PSL matches, World XI, WI T20 series, a full SL series. The security situation is also much better now.

 

[sweep_shot]

The WI series was in 2016. Since then, PCB has hosted numerous PSL matches, World XI, WI T20 series, a full SL series. The security situation is also much better now.

Agreed. But, you can't change perceptions of all people quickly. It takes time.

I hope cricket will return to Pakistan fully but it will likely take a bit of time.

 

[ahsan17]

Agreed. But, you can't change perceptions of all people quickly. It takes time.

I hope cricket will return to Pakistan fully but it will likely take a bit of time.

IMO, there's no reason why BCB and PCB can't decide to have the test series later. If not in April/May then September/Oct, or whatever the first opportunity is.

 

[light]

The real fun will only begin when SENA gets involved in a scenerio as this. How much huffing and puffing can PCB do at that point? Bending over BCB is one thing, getting SENA rolled over, let's see how much help PAK cricket get from ICC at that point. Doesn't matter what ICC says, SENA in my book will not be coming anytime soon. Giving SL/WI tour as safe will not gurantee anthing. Maybe PCB can make S come, but ENA, highly unlikely.

 

[Saj]

Agreed. But, you can't change perceptions of all people quickly. It takes time.

I hope cricket will return to Pakistan fully but it will likely take a bit of time.

Nowhere is 100% safe.

Perceptions. What a load of rubbish.

All I've heard is excuse after excuse from the BCB and no genuine arguments or facts about why Pakistan is not safe to tour.

 

[BDfanforever]

Don't get me wrong. I personally think that Pakistan is safe for cricket. But, that view is not shared by BD coaching staffs and some players. We have a lot of foreign coaches/staffs and most of them don't want to come.

Since most teams don't want to play Test in Pakistan and Pakistan gladly hosts them in UAE, it is fair that BD gets to play at neutral venues if players/staffs don't feel like coming.

If UAE is too expensive for Pakistan to host BD, there are always other cheaper options. Some cricket is better than no cricket.

PAK can easily rent a stadium for cheap in Sri Lanka and plenty of people will come to watch.

 

[sweep_shot]

Nowhere is 100% safe.

Perceptions. What a load of rubbish.

All I've heard is excuse after excuse from the BCB and no genuine arguments or facts about why Pakistan is not safe to tour.

It is not just about BCB. Players and coaches need to agree also. Fact is, not everyone agreed to it.

Also, there is one thing that is probably bothering BCB and many BD fans. Bangladesh is the only country that Pakistan is trying to push around for a home tour. They didn't take this type of aggressive approach with any other country. I think this is the primary issue more than the actual security issue. Good diplomacy was definitely missing.

 

[Usman Chadda]

It is not just about BCB. Players and coaches need to agree also. Fact is, not everyone agreed to it.

Also, there is one thing that is probably bothering BCB and many BD fans. Bangladesh is the only country that Pakistan is trying to push around for a home tour. They didn't take this type of aggressive approach with any other country. I think this is the primary issue more than the actual security issue. BD is unlikely to be pushed around by any board outside of big 3. Good diplomacy was definitely missing.

I don't think this is the case of being pushed around, although PCB's stance is definitely on the agressive side. However they are well within their rights to be frustrated by the stance BCB has taken. I myself believe BCB is well within its rights to do so, but atleast put forward a compelling argument. Some times it's 'we will look to playing T20 series first', then its 'our coaches/players dont want to come' and now its 'we are thinking of T20 series, but Test series is impossible'.

Whoever this nobody at the helm is, is an incompetent buffoon. Refuse the tour, no worries. But atleast sound intelligent.

 

[sweep_shot]

PAK can easily rent a stadium for cheap in Sri Lanka and plenty of people will come to watch.

There are many options. Unfortunately, looks like this Test series will not happen.

Some good decisions need to be made.

 

[Saj]

It is not just about BCB. Players and coaches need to agree also. Fact is, not everyone agreed to it.

Also, there is one thing that is probably bothering BCB and many BD fans. Bangladesh is the only country that Pakistan is trying to push around for a home tour. They didn't take this type of aggressive approach with any other country. I think this is the primary issue more than the actual security issue. Good diplomacy was definitely missing.

And where's the good diplomacy from BCB? All they have done is make excuses and use delaying tactics and keep changing their tune.

Players and coaches rely on security experts......the same people who have said that Pakistan is safe.

 

[BDfanforever]

I don't think this is the case of being pushed around, although PCB's stance is definitely on the agressive side. However they are well within their rights to be frustrated by the stance BCB has taken. I myself believe BCB is well within its rights to do so, but atleast put forward a compelling argument. Some times it's 'we will look to playing T20 series first', then its 'our coaches/players dont want to come' and now its 'we are thinking of T20 series, but Test series is impossible'.

Whoever this nobody at the helm is, is an incompetent buffoon. Refuse the tour, no worries. But atleast sound intelligent.

They are basically saying what Sri Lanka said. They will tour for a limited time for T20s which will provide the players to gauge the situation personally.

I think at this point, due to upcoming T20 WC, it holds even higher weight than test Cricket.

PCB has nothing to lose if BCB comes for T20 at least.

 

[Abid Z]

Honestly so many ridiculous and down right offensive posts here. If a country doesn’t want to do tests but agrees to t20s then focus on that and be patient instead of bullying. What’s all this nonsense about Bangladesh owing Pakistan cricket!

In 1998 Australia visited and never since. Nobody raises an eyebrow. In 2001 New Zealand visited and never since but nobody objects as bombs exploded outside their hotel. Yet Bangladesh choose to just come for LOI we should accept it as a small positive step and not act like buffoons. Some really contemptible posts on here. Nobody has said they will never play tests but sometime in the next few months they will happen. Why can’t we just deal with that.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Not once have BCB proven that pakistan are unsafe, simply the players dont fancy it. Am sure if given the right money bangladesh players would run to play cricket in NZ where shootings occured. Lame excuses.

 

[ahsan17]

Don't get me wrong. I personally think that Pakistan is safe for cricket. But, that view is not shared by BD coaching staffs and some players. We have a lot of foreign coaches/staffs and most of them don't want to come.

Since most teams don't want to play Test in Pakistan and Pakistan gladly hosts them in UAE, it is fair that BD gets to play at neutral venues if players/staffs don't feel like coming.

If UAE is too expensive for Pakistan to host BD, there are always other cheaper options. Some cricket is better than no cricket.

PAK can easily rent a stadium for cheap in Sri Lanka and plenty of people will come to watch.

You have to realize, PCB has adapted a new policy in the last few weeks. That all homes matches will be played in Pakistan. Now, how realistic that policy is another matter. But that's why we can't compare to has happened in the past to SENA teams. They will push SENA teams to play in Pakistan more aggressively now too.

 

[sweep_shot]

And where's the good diplomacy from BCB? All they have done is make excuses and use delaying tactics and keep changing their tune.

Players and coaches rely on security experts......the same people who have said that Pakistan is safe.

Relation between PCB and BCB haven't been great for the past few years and hence there was no urgency for good diplomacy from BCB.

Also, PCB is not one of the Big 3 boards. It is why BCB can afford a stalemate.

I agree that BCB hasn't been very transparent and they could've shown more clarity. That was not good.

 

[Abid Z]

Sorry new Zealand haven’t played since 2003. 2002 tour was cut short.

 

[Usman Chadda]

They are basically saying what Sri Lanka said. They will tour for a limited time for T20s which will provide the players to gauge the situation personally.

I think at this point, due to upcoming T20 WC, it holds even higher weight than test Cricket.

PCB has nothing to lose if BCB comes for T20 at least.

Sri Lanka was the first team to tour, so naturally it was imperative to ease them in. Sri Lankan lives are no less important than Bangladeshi ones. The series just ended, so it's not like much has changed since the last tour.

Furthermore, didn't the latest report say 'we are trying to play a T20 series and a Test tour seems impossible'? This constant change of statements is frustrating, no matter whichever way you look at it.

PCB has been aggressive, fair enough. But they are sticking to one PoV. This buffoon at the BCB is literally making a fool of himself to everyone but Bangladeshis or Indians though.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Also, no offence intended, but so much hue and cry over a Test tour by one of the worst teams to ever play Test cricket.

I really don't mean to offend any Bangladeshis here honestly, but it's really difficult to keep a straight face while discussing this )

 

[sweep_shot]

Also, no offence intended, but so much hue and cry over a Test tour by one of the worst teams to ever play Test cricket.

I really don't mean to offend any Bangladeshis here honestly, but it's really difficult to keep a straight face while discussing this )

This issue is not about cricket abilities. It is on management level.

BCB is not a broke cricket board. It is the 5th richest cricket board in the world with enough sponsors.

They are unlikely to get pushed around by any board outside of Big 3.