"I made it clear to M. Amir that the path he adopted was not right as a senior player" : Wasim Khan

[MenInG]

"I made it clear to M. Amir that the path he adopted was not right as a senior player" : Wasim Khan

Wasim Khan speaking in an interview:


"I also made it clear to Amir that the path he adopted was not right as a senior player"

"I think Amir is a valuable player for us even now and we will now make efforts to bring about rapprochement between him and the coaches."

 

[MenInG]

So WT20 - could we see Amir....

 

[YousafTheBeast]

So WT20 - could we see Amir....

Pakistan has no other option but to pick him, just look at the bowlers picked for the ODI squad for the England tour.

Shaheen Afridi - good new ball bowler but gets hit out the park quite a lot.

Hassan Ali - best used during the middle overs but now that Pakistan doesn’t have a bowler to pair Shaheen with the new ball, he’s now being forced to be the new ball bowler and it hasn’t worked out for him.

Haris Rauf - inexperienced.

Mohammad Hasnain - inexperienced.

Faheem Ashraf - hit and miss.

We’re going into a big tour with only 2 decent LOI pace bowlers, embarrassing.

PCB had enough time to resolve the issue between Amir and the team management, and he should’ve been picked for this tour.

If any Pakistan fan is looking forward to this tour, then they’ve been living under a rock for the last 2 years.

Incoming 380-2 vs England.

 

[Bewal Express]

What he should have said is that you don't have the performances to talk. Just shut up, stop looking for excuses and take wickets.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Pakistan has no other option but to pick him, just look at the bowlers picked for the ODI squad for the England tour.

Shaheen Afridi - good new ball bowler but gets hit out the park quite a lot.

Hassan Ali - best used during the middle overs but now that Pakistan doesn’t have a bowler to pair Shaheen with the new ball, he’s now being forced to be the new ball bowler and it hasn’t worked out for him.

Haris Rauf - inexperienced.

Mohammad Hasnain - inexperienced.

Faheem Ashraf - hit and miss.

We’re going into a big tour with only 2 decent LOI pace bowlers, embarrassing.

PCB had enough time to resolve the issue between Amir and the team management, and he should’ve been picked for this tour.

If any Pakistan fan is looking forward to this tour, then they’ve been living under a rock for the last 2 years.

Incoming 380-2 vs England.

Good thing ODI worldcup is in 2023 and not 2021, right? It's a good thing those bowlers will have plenty of time to gain experience before the world cup.

Amir is pretty rubbish at this point with his lost pace. In the right conditions, he can make sense and sure it would make sense to pick for the T20 squads West Indies & England but he is not a wicket taker at this point. WC may be played in UAE too and he is unlikely to be a factor at all.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Good thing ODI worldcup is in 2023 and not 2021, right? It's a good thing those bowlers will have plenty of time to gain experience before the world cup.

Amir is pretty rubbish at this point with his lost pace. In the right conditions, he can make sense and sure it would make sense to pick for the T20 squads West Indies & England but he is not a wicket taker at this point. WC may be played in UAE too and he is unlikely to be a factor at all.

Tbf, I don’t think there’s many wicket takers in our squad rn. They’re made to look like prime Wasim or Waqar when playing against minnows but when it comes to the bigger teams, they get treated like street cricketers. At least with Amir we know he ain’t getting hit out the park.

 

[MenInG]

Bringing Amir back will be in line with the horses for courses policy Mohammad Wasim talks about.

 

[Saj]

2 points.

Sensible of Wasim Khan to get involved.

But has he left it too late - a lot of water under the bridge already I feel.

 

[Savak]

2 points.

Sensible of Wasim Khan to get involved.

But has he left it too late - a lot of water under the bridge already I feel.

Not really. The team management and the selectors should be given a free hand to implement and execute their policies

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Should have curbed Amir when his ego was getting out of hand.
Would be futile now that he thinks he is the king of the world.

 

[hitthestump]

Should have curbed Amir when his ego was getting out of hand.
Would be futile now that he thinks he is the king of the world.

Yep. Missed opportunity. If you go back now you go back on Amir's terms. Good luck grovelling to a prima donna happily making bags in league cricket.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Tbf, I don’t think there’s many wicket takers in our squad rn. They’re made to look like prime Wasim or Waqar when playing against minnows but when it comes to the bigger teams, they get treated like street cricketers. At least with Amir we know he ain’t getting hit out the park.

They are also young and inexperienced and need the reps and enough matches to see if they can get better, which I believe they can.

Pakistan are highly likely to lose the ODI series no matter who the squad is. So the question is, should those reps be given to young bowlers who have potential or a declining Amir who is unlikely to be part of the next World Cup. I know my answer.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I would be more than happy if I never see this entitled fixer play in a Pakistan shirt again.

 

[gazza619]

Amir does walk into the T20 team. We really need a new ball bowler to partner Shaheen.

 

[Suleiman]

Yes PCB, take your beggar bowl to this disgraced individual and beg him to return. Shows how desperate they are and the absolute dearth of bowing talent in the domestic circuit.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

KP was twice the cricketer Amir is and was dealt much harsher by his board, yet he never complained as much as Amir has done.

 

[moghul]

Look who is talking, the guy who gave debut to a 38 year old "fast bowler" , brought back a chronically unfit and failed aging batsman and also selected an extremely overweight son of an influential ex-captain , is questioning and lecturing a player who has won many matches for Pakistan. He should have figured out why Amir is not playing for Pakistan and is there anything he could he could do to bring him back or at least should have listen to his grievances.

 

[Maher96]

Amir direct issue was Waqar...

He has had to leave and don’t think will be back anytime soon. Amir played a lot with and under Misbah and Younis tbh.

Do think they can sit around the table with Wasim as a mediator. If it’s a betterment for our Team and Babar is also wanting him in then no issue.

Sensible guy this Wasim. Doesn’t let too much emotion take over professional decisions.

Let’s see what’s happens.

 

[Omer2002]

Amir is no ways same as he was years ago..he has lost pace and swing..

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

After a certain point you can't help but come to one conclusion. Which is that PCB, as a cricket board simply has no self-respect. They could care less about integrity, doing what's right or even being half-competent. All they like to do, especially since Wasim has come in is pay lip-service and talk in corporate mumbo-jumbo about all the great things they are going to do.

But at the end of the day, all they do is bring back match-fixers, incompetently mess up basic things, appoint YouTube pundits as chief-selectors and swallow their pride to try and bring back an overrated and morally bankrupt bowler who obviously doesn't care about anything other than money. Meanwhile fans cheer on as if we are in the midst of some kind of grand reform that is going to shake the very foundation of Pakistan cricket.

All this reminds of a lyric from a The Who song: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[CleverSir]

Yes PCB, take your beggar bowl to this disgraced individual and beg him to return. Shows how desperate they are and the absolute dearth of bowing talent in the domestic circuit.

A conversation with a player about their future isn’t begging.

 

[iniqbal223]

Actually, logic of some fans/ex cricketers is :

Since, WE HAVE DONE EHSAAN on Amir to BRING HIM BACK; we expect him to get 5+ every time
AT THE SAME time , we are happy to tolerate some garbage and much worse options

 

[enigmatic_stani]

Amir is no ways same as he was years ago..he has lost pace and swing..

Still walks into the T20 side and has big match temperament. Probably the only one who does atm.

Shaheen Amir and Hassan Ali should be the pace attack for the T20 WC with Faheem as 4th pace option if pitch dictates.

 

[shujaatraza]

Look who is talking, the guy who gave debut to a 38 year old "fast bowler" , brought back a chronically unfit and failed aging batsman and also selected an extremely overweight son of an influential ex-captain , is questioning and lecturing a player who has won many matches for Pakistan. He should have figured out why Amir is not playing for Pakistan and is there anything he could he could do to bring him back or at least should have listen to his grievances.

If only you had read who said it before pulling the trigger.

 

[moghul]

2 points.

Sensible of Wasim Khan to get involved.

But has he left it too late - a lot of water under the bridge already I feel.

Yes, why Wasim has not make any effort so far to resolve the issue ?

 

[YousafTheBeast]

They are also young and inexperienced and need the reps and enough matches to see if they can get better, which I believe they can.

Pakistan are highly likely to lose the ODI series no matter who the squad is. So the question is, should those reps be given to young bowlers who have potential or a declining Amir who is unlikely to be part of the next World Cup. I know my answer.

Why can’t it be both, why can’t we play inexperienced players and players like Amir at the same time? Our most experienced bowler is Hassan Ali, and he’s nothing special. Most teams play 1 inexperienced bowler with 2-3 experienced bowlers. But, we go into every big tour with 1 experienced bowler and the rest inexperienced or too young. If you think Pakistan can’t benefit from having Amir in the team then we must have some world class bowlers that have taken his spot.

 

[shamaan]

Amir should not be brought back into any Pakistan squad

 

[Savak]

It won't really matter. Ultimately Amirs Mark Ealham type bowling and pathetic outputs will see him get dropped from the team for cricketing reasons

 

[Saj]

Yes, why Wasim has not make any effort so far to resolve the issue ?

Maybe he was hoping the player and management could sort it out. Which they obviously have not been able to.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Yes, why Wasim has not make any effort so far to resolve the issue ?

Maybe Amir is just not that bothered about playing for Pakistan. Do we even know that it's a priority for him above earning good money in T20 leagues?

 

[Saj]

I guess the next move is Wasim Khan having a chat with Misbah and Waqar about what Amir had to say and see what their response is to his complaints.

This is going to be tricky and not easy to resolve.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Instead of begging to Amir , they should focus on what is in their hands.

Sameen gul is very good bowler who needs to be drafted in to the squad for all formats. This guy has height and good enough control over his bowling which will only improve further with more matches.

Arshid Iqbal and Dahani also looked good. Time to train these players and also get Naseem shah to play more FC games to fix a lot of things starting with his run up till delivery stride there is lot of flaws that is clearly seen needs polishing.

 

[Caved12]

What nonsense? then why are you supporting him now?

 

[moghul]

I guess the next move is Wasim Khan having a chat with Misbah and Waqar about what Amir had to say and see what their response is to his complaints.

This is going to be tricky and not easy to resolve.

Yes, Wasim Khan is the right person for that , not Mohammad Wsim.

 

[moghul]

Instead of begging to Amir , they should focus on what is in their hands.

Sameen gul is very good bowler who needs to be drafted in to the squad for all formats. This guy has height and good enough control over his bowling which will only improve further with more matches.

Arshid Iqbal and Dahani also looked good. Time to train these players and also get Naseem shah to play more FC games to fix a lot of things starting with his run up till delivery stride there is lot of flaws that is clearly seen needs polishing.

Give some credit to Mohhamd Wasim for unearthing an exciting young talent in Tabish Khan.

 

[Suleiman]

A conversation with a player about their future isn’t begging.

Look at what the conversation is about, put into context the relationship of PCB and Amir from 2010 to current day, and genuinely ask yourself how any other established team’s cricket board would deal with an ex fixer, then try to say that sentence again.

 

[MenInG]

Was Wasim Khan's direct meeting with Mohammad Amir a vote of no confidence against Head Coach and Bowling Coach?

"Look I was not aware that Wasim Khan has met Mohammad Amir, and what was said in that meeting only became known via media and news reports; Wasim Khan is the CE of Pakistan cricket and he has every right to see whichever player he wishes to see and he met Amir on a personal basis - we were not aware of this meeting but now that this has been revealed, it's caused controversy"

"A lot has been said about Mohammad Amir's situation, and there is no doubt that he is a fine cricketer but if he doesn't want to play or take his retirement back and play and impress selectors then, it is hard [to bring him back]; Remember this Pakistan cricket and not the domain of one person like you or me, so you [Amir] have to do the right things to play for your country; This is not franchise cricket - One has to remember that"

==

So seems Wasim did not inform Head Coach and Bowling Coach about this.

 

[TheSultan]

I would remove all 3. Waqar, Amir, Misbah and start again.

There’s 2 sides + the truth to every story, right now I don’t even care who’s right or wrong.

Even if Waqar and Misbah are correct, they are not some world beating coaches that are irreplaceable.

Even if Amir is correct, he is far from a world class bowler these days.

The 3 of them aren’t worth the hassle. Just move on. I am sick of the sight of all 3.

Just start with a fresh approach

 

[Varun]

Why can't they stop talking about Amir non-stop? He's getting free air-time for no particular reason.

A standard one-liner response of "no comments on the potential selectability of retired players" should do.

 

[Mirpur express]

Omg!! Look @ his performance in the recently concluded PSL?? The worst bowler on show.. on current form , in fact based on his form over the last 2 years , he is nowhere near an international return

 

[shaz619]

Why can't they stop talking about Amir non-stop? He's getting free air-time for no particular reason.

A standard one-liner response of "no comments on the potential selectability of retired players" should do.

Because he embarrassed the Idnians in the CT and humiliated Kohli King of Chase

 

[IMMY69]

If I was in Amir's boots I would have kept my head down and just given my best for the country.
Kept putting in the hard yards and not spoke of retiring from any format...

Don't know who was advising him but with what he did and how the PCB/country supported him he should have just sucked it up and carried on.... he was lucky to get a second chance

 

[Varun]

Because he embarrassed the Idnians in the CT and humiliated Kohli King of Chase

He didn't do squat.

Want to hype up someone for what happened in that game? Go for Fakhar Zaman.

Amir was as useful as Sreesanth in the T20 WC 2007 final - just at the right place at the right time.

 

[OMB]

Why can't they stop talking about Amir non-stop? He's getting free air-time for no particular reason.

A standard one-liner response of "no comments on the potential selectability of retired players" should do.

Might get him to play eventually and this in turn will demoralize the other bowlers.

 

[in_cutter]

Pakistan has no other option but to pick him, just look at the bowlers picked for the ODI squad for the England tour.

Shaheen Afridi - good new ball bowler but gets hit out the park quite a lot.

Hassan Ali - best used during the middle overs but now that Pakistan doesn’t have a bowler to pair Shaheen with the new ball, he’s now being forced to be the new ball bowler and it hasn’t worked out for him.

Haris Rauf - inexperienced.

Mohammad Hasnain - inexperienced.

Faheem Ashraf - hit and miss.

We’re going into a big tour with only 2 decent LOI pace bowlers, embarrassing.

PCB had enough time to resolve the issue between Amir and the team management, and he should’ve been picked for this tour.

If any Pakistan fan is looking forward to this tour, then they’ve been living under a rock for the last 2 years.

Incoming 380-2 vs England.

Why is there no other option? What special performances has Amir put in recently?

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Why is there no other option? What special performances has Amir put in recently?

There are other options, but they’re 10x worse than Amir. You can’t replace a player out of form with a player that’ll never be in form.

Although his performances in the UAE weren’t up to the mark, i wouldn’t hold it against him. If we’re going to pick players based on PSL performances then drop Fakhar, Hafeez, Azam Khan, Nawaz, Hasnain, Rauf and Shadab.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Why is there no other option? What special performances has Amir put in recently?

I agree, Amir has been horrible in recent times.

I'm pretty sure you could give Sarfaraz the ball and he might have had better luck picking up a few wickets.

This argument for Amir's selection is absurd.

If he had a banger of a PSL, then it would have made sense, but this guy was trundling to new levels, making De Grandhomme look like an actual fast-bowler.

 

[UzmanBeast]

There are other options, but they’re 10x worse than Amir. You can’t replace a player out of form with a player that’ll never be in form.

Although his performances in the UAE weren’t up to the mark, i wouldn’t hold it against him. If we’re going to pick players based on PSL performances then drop Fakhar, Hafeez, Azam Khan, Nawaz, Hasnain, Rauf and Shadab.

Amir is horrible, and the fact that you can't accept that is quite concerning.

Batsmen would be jealous of his bowling average during the PSL.

He barely gets any swing and was a liability for the KK franchise.

Form matters. There have been some mediocre hacks who've been in form and have dominated even the best of bowling lineups. There have been mediocre bowlers who have destroyed oppositions because of good form.

Amir's pace is down, he's expensive with the ball, he isn't landing the yorker at all, and worst of all, he isn't taking any wickets whatsoever.

Say what you will about guys like Rauf, but at least they're chipping in with wickets if they aren't being economical.

I'd rather take Rauf, Hasnain, Arshad, Ilyas, Shaheen, Hasan, and Faheem over Amir any day of the week, primarily because they don't whine and quit when things don't go their way, and they have age on their side.

 

[shaz619]

He didn't do squat.

Want to hype up someone for what happened in that game? Go for Fakhar Zaman.

Amir was as useful as Sreesanth in the T20 WC 2007 final - just at the right place at the right time.

Indians remain traumatised by the Kohli wicket.

There’s a big difference, Sreesanth is not capable of replacing Bumrah, Shami, Ishant etc is he

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Looks like Amir will be expecting another visit from Wasim Khan. Faheem and Rauf getting thumped by England C will leave Misbah with no option but to play Amir.

People will say Amir has lost pace, yet he bowls at similar speeds to Hassan Ali. Hassan Ali in the 2nd ODI was bowling at 132-137 but no one talks about his pace.