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"I thought both bails were already off and that's why I didn't appeal" : Sarfaraz Ahmed

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Pakistan fielding was full of comedy today but Sarfraz not appealing for run out when T Curran was short of crease , was one of the historic one for me.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Curran was run-out but not referred by the umpire and no appeal from Pakistan <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvPak?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EngvPak</a> <a href="https://t.co/mz1pnMJ3AQ">pic.twitter.com/mz1pnMJ3AQ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1129470649129472000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Sarfaraz Ahmed presser quotes:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sarfaraz Ahmed "I thought both bails were already off and that's why I didn't appeal for the run-out" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/KjgzvNNoIy">pic.twitter.com/KjgzvNNoIy</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1129484332324872192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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"We are fighting but we are making some mistakes which is why we're losing"

"Batting is performing well, I think we need to improve fielding and bowling"

"In the last 1 year or so our fielding has been good but in this series it's not been up to the mark. The execution with the bowling was not going well, today Hasnain bowled well despite being inexperienced and showed he can bowl well"

"Team is performing well overall and it's a good sign for the World Cup that we're showing fighting spirit, hopefully we will stop the small mistakes and perform well going forward"

"England's players have a different style, we are also scoring as many runs as they are. Babar Azam has a different role and he performed well to help us to set a good target of 340-350"

"I think if other things are up to the mark then there is no problem with our strike-rates"

"I don't think anyone is playing for himself, they are playing for the team. Sometimes we have made some small mistakes"

"Our fielding is an area where we need to work hard, it hampered us in these last two matches severely"

"We may be losing the series and we're sad about that but we're also thinking positively that we almost chased 370 then we made 350, 340. If we take our positives out then the batting is doing well and we need to figure out our mistakes with bowling and fielding"

"Catches win matches, if we took the catches and didn't concede boundaries at crucial times we could've done well. Misfields cost us"
 
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This is mr sarfraz problem form quite a while this has not happen for first time .
 
Don't know why he did that at all when there was nothing to lose? This is why people doubt the sincerity and honesty of Pak. This is why question marks are raised against them every time.
 
It was an honest mistake. Can happen to anyone. Besides, it was umpire's job to review both run outs
 
Had he done it, Curran was out and Pakistan would have won the match.

Not sure about this. Stokes would still have taken them over the line, England bat really deep. Pakistan's bowlers have not been good enough.
 
He couldn't see the batsman what were the fielders doing nobody appealed.

Well said but for some people Sarfaraz is the spawn of the devil and responsible for everything that is wrong in the world.



Today they couldn't find anything against him because he batted, kept and captained well so now they are after him for not appealing when he didn't even know where the batsman was. What were the fielders doing just chilling having a walk in the park?
 
It was an honest mistake. Can happen to anyone. Besides, it was umpire's job to review both run outs

As per commentators, in run outs, if you don;t appeal, there is no review and out is not given.
 
Only Sarfaraz what others were doing? that shows that our team mentally accepted the defeat way before the match ended
 
Pakistan fielding was full of comedy today but Sarfraz not appealing for run out when T Curran was short of crease , was one of the historic one for me.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Curran was run-out but not referred by the umpire and no appeal from Pakistan <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvPak?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EngvPak</a> <a href="https://t.co/mz1pnMJ3AQ">pic.twitter.com/mz1pnMJ3AQ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1129470649129472000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Well lets deflect the criticism a little bit, if it was seen on the camera in the replays it should've been referred. Don't blame it just on the captain. What are the umpires doing in the replays that are being to them.
 
Can understand that sarfaraz missed it but what were the other fielders doing, why didn't they appeal. Most teams even have boundary fielders appealing on such occasions. You know the standard phrase used in cricket that is "express yourselves", that's what Pakistan team lacks. Not a single player seems to be involved, everyone just comes to either bat or bowl.
 
If it was a close call it would automatically be seen as a replay because there are 3rd umpires that have a look at both decisions.
 
Players are players but they don't have the benefit of an action replay
 
alsooooo if one of the bails were down then the sarf needed to take the stump out, as per the rules. Since the stumps were already disturbed once.
 
Well lets deflect the criticism a little bit, if it was seen on the camera in the replays it should've been referred. Don't blame it just on the captain. What are the umpires doing in the replays that are being to them.

For run outs, you don;t get it unless you appeal for it.
 
For run outs, you don;t get it unless you appeal for it.

If it was a close call then it still gets appealed or not? Didn't the rule change that if it is spotted on the camera it has to be notified to the on field umpires?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sarfaraz Ahmed "I thought both bails were already off and that's why I didn't appeal for the run-out" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/KjgzvNNoIy">pic.twitter.com/KjgzvNNoIy</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1129484332324872192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Can understand that sarfaraz missed it but what were the other fielders doing, why didn't they appeal. Most teams even have boundary fielders appealing on such occasions. You know the standard phrase used in cricket that is "express yourselves", that's what Pakistan team lacks. Not a single player seems to be involved, everyone just comes to either bat or bowl.

Absolutely, appeal from any one player would have been gone for review, no one bothered to, pathetic team work, lead by our all time great captain.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sarfaraz Ahmed "I thought both bails were already off and that's why I didn't appeal for the run-out" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/KjgzvNNoIy">pic.twitter.com/KjgzvNNoIy</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1129484332324872192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Is he blind?
 
I think its ** the umpires usually always refer it. You can't just blame the captain on this.. This is somewhat biased umpiring that you were just looking to get on with it on two run outs.
 
My question is what is the umpire doing? He should've referred it whether there was an appeal or not when it was so close.
 
Can’t bat, does the bare minimum with the gloves, takes dumb reviews, doesn’t appeal for run outs, tactically poor.

Simply seeing him on tv infuriates me these days, and the fact that he is the captain in spite of bringing zilch to the team boils my blood.

This farce must end after the World Cup. He needs to be booted out unceremoniously.
 
You can't blame umpire as long as they are following the cricket laws which clearly states an appeal has to made by the fielding team for run out.
 
Can’t bat, does the bare minimum with the gloves, takes dumb reviews, doesn’t appeal for run outs, tactically poor.

Simply seeing him on tv infuriates me these days, and the fact that he is the captain in spite of bringing zilch to the team boils my blood.

This farce must end after the World Cup. He needs to be booted out unceremoniously.

What if he captains Pakistan to world cup win?
 
Can’t bat, does the bare minimum with the gloves, takes dumb reviews, doesn’t appeal for run outs, tactically poor.

Simply seeing him on tv infuriates me these days, and the fact that he is the captain in spite of bringing zilch to the team boils my blood.

This farce must end after the World Cup. He needs to be booted out unceremoniously.

So you don;t recommend a Sitara-e-Imtiaz for him :))):)))
 
Not realistic but I wish, Hafeez is made captain of Pakistan team for the WC and let Sarfraz play as keeper as we don;t have any reserve keeper. He is nothing but embarrassment for the team.
 
Can’t bat, does the bare minimum with the gloves, takes dumb reviews, doesn’t appeal for run outs, tactically poor.

Simply seeing him on tv infuriates me these days, and the fact that he is the captain in spite of bringing zilch to the team boils my blood.

This farce must end after the World Cup. He needs to be booted out unceremoniously.

Wonderful post
 
People are forgetting a gem when Akmal collected the ball but didn't bother to disturb stumps when Watson was miles out of his crease but instead Akmal chose to put his hands over his stupid head. Anyone remember that in famous Sydney 2010 Test? That was a historical debacle for me and I doubt anything can overtake that.

Pakistan cricket has been on a steady decline over a decade or more since the greats retired. Now we produce players who are too dumb to understand basic common match awareness. It's sad for someone who has grown up watching exciting Pakistani sides who could look eye in eye and bowl yorkers at will.

Please Wasim Khan do something and turn this ship around or Pak cricket will die a slow death.
 
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You can't blame umpire as long as they are following the cricket laws which clearly states an appeal has to made by the fielding team for run out.

Umpires go upstairs when they have doubts. The doubts are not created by the players they need to investigate everything to the best of their abilities. An appeal was made for the first run out and its his job to investigate both. If players start doing the job of umpires then what exactly are on field umpires for?

Just have 3rd umpires and players
 
Then all the more reason for him to review. Technology is made available to him he can have no complains

Are you talking about Sarfaraz or the umpire? Umpires in situations where they can't see the stumps go with the team's response first and if there is no appeal, they don't go upstairs.
 
Umpires go upstairs when they have doubts. The doubts are not created by the players they need to investigate everything to the best of their abilities. An appeal was made for the first run out and its his job to investigate both. If players start doing the job of umpires then what exactly are on field umpires for?

Just have 3rd umpires and players

Umpires going upstairs for a possible dismissal requires an appeal:

2.1.1 The relevant on-field umpire shall be entitled to refer an appeal for run-out, stumped, bowled or hit wicket to the third umpire.
 
Well said but for some people Sarfaraz is the spawn of the devil and responsible for everything that is wrong in the world.



Today they couldn't find anything against him because he batted, kept and captained well so now they are after him for not appealing when he didn't even know where the batsman was. What were the fielders doing just chilling having a walk in the park?

He captained well? In which world you are living. Don't act like blind bakht.

He removed the spinners from both the ends when they were quite economical and where building pressure on opposition.
 
He captained well? In which world you are living. Don't act like blind bakht.

He removed the spinners from both the ends when they were quite economical and where building pressure on opposition.

Yeah, captained well, really ? , How many over he gave to Malik and how did Malik do in 2 overs he bowled. He could have easily 2-3 more cheap overs.
 
How could he see that ? lol ,
Other fielders were sleeping I think

He was trying to run out the batsman, you don;t have a good look at the batsman before appealing and there is no fine on appealing, you appeal all the time unless you see yourself that the batsman has made it.
 
He captained well? In which world you are living. Don't act like blind bakht.

He removed the spinners from both the ends when they were quite economical and where building pressure on opposition.

21 off 14 on this flat pitch is good batting apparently. Lol Curran was beating our attack black and blue and specialist captain couldn't even hit a 6 lol.
 
He should have appealed at least. Plenty of times he has jumped up and down for things that aren't even out
Pathetic cricketer who needs booting out asap.
 
Umpires going upstairs for a possible dismissal requires an appeal:

2.1.1 The relevant on-field umpire shall be entitled to refer an appeal for run-out, stumped, bowled or hit wicket to the third umpire.

I've seen umpires go upstairs without an appeal. What about the first run out in question that was reviewed by theumpire?
 
Are you talking about Sarfaraz or the umpire? Umpires in situations where they can't see the stumps go with the team's response first and if there is no appeal, they don't go upstairs.

the umpire job is to review each and everything with doubt and make the correct decision on the proceedings. There was enough reasonable doubt on this to be referred upstairs plus he was in no position to see clearly what went on. Since when did umpires big judges of on field reactions to certain things
 
I've seen umpires go upstairs without an appeal. What about the first run out in question that was reviewed by theumpire?

Can you perhaps provide a video showing this? It wouldn't change what the regulations state but I'd still be interested in seeing it.

Neither of the run outs were referred to the third umpire. The first wasn't given out on the field and the second didn't feature an appeal.
 
Absolutely, appeal from any one player would have been gone for review, no one bothered to, pathetic team work, lead by our all time great captain.

Definitely an all time great captain, right up there with the likes of Imran and Younis as the trifecta that have won global tournaments and sarfaraz did it with the least talented team at his disposal.

I will take him over selfish match fixers who've sold country to bookies and other pathetic buffoons who've had the dishonor to have captain Pakistan.
 
Definitely an all time great captain, right up there with the likes of Imran and Younis as the trifecta that have won global tournaments and sarfaraz did it with the least talented team at his disposal.

I will take him over selfish match fixers who've sold country to bookies and other pathetic buffoons who've had the dishonor to have captain Pakistan.

How would you rate Malinga, Paul Collingwood as captains? ATGs? Because they have also won ICC tournaments by winning World T20.
 
Sarfraz has won multiple honours as a captain, he is a natural captain and the best option we have available still people have shamelessness to question him? they deserve captains like Misbah,Afridi and Azhar who don't even know how to captain a street side let alone national team but they were made captain because apparently they were 'cool and calm' . Misbah and Azhar brought Pakistan to 9th in ODI rankings and misbah is labelled as a best captain ever lol .What joke of fans we have in Pakistan....

Sarfraz won CT with an average team , carrying this mediocre side better than anyother captain could have done when we have corrupt Inzi as CS, a clown mickey as a coach ,average and most selfish players of All times like Imam,Amir ,Faheem,Yasir and Babar in the squad..yet he has carried this side from 9 to 6th and these fans have shamelessness to abuse him and call him name.. They deserve worse..Soon pathetic Babar or Imam will captain this side and Pakistan cricket will collapse once and for all and that will be a big slap on these fans faces...
 
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How would you rate Malinga, Paul Collingwood as captains? ATGs? Because they have also won ICC tournaments by winning World T20.

Pakistani context...


And Collingwood and Malinga were and remain far superior captains compared to those we've had who are highly thought of and were convicted of match fixing...
 
Joke of a captain and joke of a keeper.

SHould be replaced by Rizwan, and captaincy should be given to Hafeez or Malik

This guy has become a joke. I have defended him in the past but now its getting too much.

Never have i seen a team lose consecutively after scoring 300+. This guy has no idea what to do now.

How the hell do you lose a game after socring 300+? And not once, but 3 times.
 
the umpire job is to review each and everything with doubt and make the correct decision on the proceedings. There was enough reasonable doubt on this to be referred upstairs plus he was in no position to see clearly what went on. Since when did umpires big judges of on field reactions to certain things

basic cricket rule.

Umpires only make an out decision based on an appeal. Forget run outs, even if a batsmen edges the ball and the bowling team doesn't appeal the umpire cant just given an out decision.
 
Pakistani context...


And Collingwood and Malinga were and remain far superior captains compared to those we've had who are highly thought of and were convicted of match fixing...

All time great can be of any team? I just wanted to know whether you consider these captains as ATG?

Imran Khan is highly thought of as Pak captain, never heard him being convicted of match fixing.

Having a match fixer as captain or someone who is a poor captain are not the only options.
 
Can’t bat, does the bare minimum with the gloves, takes dumb reviews, doesn’t appeal for run outs, tactically poor.

Simply seeing him on tv infuriates me these days, and the fact that he is the captain in spite of bringing zilch to the team boils my blood.

This farce must end after the World Cup. He needs to be booted out unceremoniously.

The least he can do is win tosses, but apparently he can't even do that.
 
I thought both bails had gone on the first run out
Excellent fielding by Pakistan
Can’t remember the last time I seen a Pakistani team have a double run out in quick succession
 
Seemed like he misunderstood a rule...he looked kinda disappointed with himself for knocking the bail off...

I presumed that was the reason he didn't appeal...
 
Seemed like he misunderstood a rule...he looked kinda disappointed with himself for knocking the bail off...

I presumed that was the reason he didn't appeal...

That’s exactly what I thought too
Because he put his hands up first time around
 
Seemed like he misunderstood a rule...he looked kinda disappointed with himself for knocking the bail off...

I presumed that was the reason he didn't appeal...

So he is not only uneducated, is doesn;t know the cricket rules also----and he is the captain of a proud cricketing nation, God mercy.
 
Joke of a captain and joke of a keeper.

SHould be replaced by Rizwan, and captaincy should be given to Hafeez or Malik

This guy has become a joke. I have defended him in the past but now its getting too much.

Never have i seen a team lose consecutively after scoring 300+. This guy has no idea what to do now.

How the hell do you lose a game after socring 300+? And not once, but 3 times.

Get with the times. England are a modern ODI team and this 300+ unbeatable myth is starting to fade away.

Their record at home while chasing in ODIs since the 2015 World Cup:

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All their scores (notice the margins of their victories):

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There's a lot of problems with the team but it's not as simplistic as 'kick him out because 300+ wasn't defended'. Better teams than Pakistan have failed to defend 300 against this England side.
 
the umpire job is to review each and everything with doubt and make the correct decision on the proceedings. There was enough reasonable doubt on this to be referred upstairs plus he was in no position to see clearly what went on. Since when did umpires big judges of on field reactions to certain things

Since forever. Most of their caught behind decisions, lbws are often based on how the batsman and WK reacts.
 
lol.. Now why did he not appeal on this one. :)))

These days players appeal even if a batsmen is 2 meters inside the crease just for the heck of it, and here a player is out and there is no appeal.

No wonder Pakistan have lost 10 or 11 ODIs in a row now!
 
So he is not only uneducated, is doesn;t know the cricket rules also----and he is the captain of a proud cricketing nation, God mercy.

Not an excuse for him...but I also thought he messed up...i thought if one bail was dislodged then he had to remove the stump...

Commies clarified it...now obviously Sarfaraz should know more than the rest of us but it's not like it's an obvious rule...
 
Well said but for some people Sarfaraz is the spawn of the devil and responsible for everything that is wrong in the world.



Today they couldn't find anything against him because he batted, kept and captained well so now they are after him for not appealing when he didn't even know where the batsman was. What were the fielders doing just chilling having a walk in the park?

You are probably the only on here who thought he captained well. Lol

Not giving Malik and Hafeez more overs sums up his genius captaincy
 
Mistakes are being made left right and centre and we have lost this series. One positive I will take from this is atleast we are scoring runs and going to the wire.

Dissapointed.. Sure but they have lost due to their own mistakes which I am sure will be looked at and improvements will be made. I will rather take their losses now and get the Boyz all riled up and fight like champions in the next game and go in the tournament with a victory behind them. Still have faith with the Boyz.
 
lol.. Now why did he not appeal on this one. :)))

These days players appeal even if a batsmen is 2 meters inside the crease just for the heck of it, and here a player is out and there is no appeal.

No wonder Pakistan have lost 10 or 11 ODIs in a row now!

Coz he thought both of the bails had fallen beforehand hence there was no point in appealing.
 
Can’t bat, does the bare minimum with the gloves, takes dumb reviews, doesn’t appeal for run outs, tactically poor.

Simply seeing him on tv infuriates me these days, and the fact that he is the captain in spite of bringing zilch to the team boils my blood.

This farce must end after the World Cup. He needs to be booted out unceremoniously.

100 percent agree with you. I also feel like has brought the mullah culture of the Inzi era back into the dressing room as well.
 
100% agreed.

A country's captain, an athelete, who cannot sacrifice Biryani, Qorma and Sheermal doesn't deserve any accolade.
On the other side of the border we have a captain who hasn't touched his favorite food butter chicken in 6-7 years!

This is all over rated stuff to be honest rohit Sharma has dad bod and he’s the 2nd best batsman in the world this kohli fitness stuff is extremely over rated he would still be the batsman in the world if he ate butter chicken like Watson said in a post match regarding Umar akmal that Cricket is a skill based game and even guys in Australia are suffering cause of this new fitness criteria being fit is good but kohli level is not required for every player and plus Umar akmal despite all his controversies was a gun fielder when he played and a great runner between the wickets
 
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Can’t bat, does the bare minimum with the gloves, takes dumb reviews, doesn’t appeal for run outs, tactically poor.

Simply seeing him on tv infuriates me these days, and the fact that he is the captain in spite of bringing zilch to the team boils my blood.

This farce must end after the World Cup. He needs to be booted out unceremoniously.

A little bit harsh on the batting, he can score 20 or so runs in a losing cause in many situations, but the rest is pretty accurate. The godawful reviews he takes are a sign of his complete lack of judgement, and quite frankly his interviews along with his pot belly don't give a good impression of Pakistan cricket at all. So in that sense I suppose he's a suitable representative.
 
But he saw red light flashing, so did others.
If both bails were off then there would be no light.
Appealing should be relax action of a keeper, especially when he sees red light on stumps
 
Basic error from an experienced cricketer.

A total lack of game-awareness in that situation.

Very poor.
 
People are missing an important point here.

Slow overrate. It was constantly on his mind telling the players jaldi karo etc. I thought that was poor. Never seen any other team go "let's go faster lads" when the priority is to win. He just wanted to get on with the game.

It's a mistake. It happens. People need to move on.
 
Coz he thought both of the bails had fallen beforehand hence there was no point in appealing.

But is that not the job of the 3rd umpire to determine if the bails were intact it not!?

You can't have such a 'masoom' captain in this day and age!!
 
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