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'I want to meet that genius who is organising tours of Zimbabwe" : Wasim Akram

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Former captain Wasim Akram has reacted strongly to Pakistan's recent series loss to England, saying the real blame needs to be given to organisers, who are frequently designing tour of countries like Zimbabwe.

Former captain Wasim Akram has reacted strongly to Pakistan's recent series loss to England, saying the real blame needs to be given to organisers, who are frequently designing tour of countries like Zimbabwe. Pakistan were drubbed 0-3 to a second-string England team in the ODIs, before losing the T20Is 1-2, and last month, although they won the Test and T20Is series in Harare, the team was dealt a shock 19-run loss that got the cricket world talking.

Akram urged the management to look at India, who currently have two different teams in two different corners of the world, and reckons that although such tours are important, Pakistan need to play against tougher opponents more often to play better at the international level.

"I want to meet that genius who is organising tours of Zimbabwe. I want to offer him extra praise and say 'well done, you've done a great job'. It is not going to benefit us. It will only be helpful for them. Once in four years, I'm ok with that. If you compare with India. Their one team is in Sri Lanka, another is in England. And they can raise another team. They improved their system 10 years ago. They invested money, brought in professionals," Akram said on ARY News.

Akram, currently part of the Cricket Committee, requested people to stop recommending players to him. The former fast bowler joined the committee back in 2018 along with six more former cricketers to oversee the overall state of Pakistan cricket.

"Dear Pakistanis, please... I'm talking about the educated guys. Stop calling. Stop recommendations. This is the 21st century. Before selection, I get calls, 'pick this player, pick that player.' It's a different thing if you want someone to have a look at a player, but to ask to pick that person is embarrassing," Akram added.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/i-want-to-meet-that-genius-who-is-organising-tours-of-zimbabwe-wasim-akram-reacts-to-pakistan-s-string-of-defeats-101627379994795.html
 
I agree with Wasim Akram, we need to play more competitive teams.

Zimbabwe should improve before we play against them. Right now, we should target New Zealand, West Indies, South Africa, and Bangladesh for more frequent tours.

We should also hope for more tours with England and Australia, preferably home series.
 
UzmanBeast said:
I agree with Wasim Akram, we need to play more competitive teams.

Zimbabwe should improve before we play against them. Right now, we should target New Zealand, West Indies, South Africa, and Bangladesh for more frequent tours.

We should also hope for more tours with England and Australia, preferably home series.
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Playing against Bangladesh, WI, SA won’t help either.
 
This is a very flawed argument from Wasim.

Just this year alone , Pakistan have toured New Zealand , South Africa and England followed by the West Indies .
So it’s not like Pakistan have been touring Zimbabwe continuously each year . Their is also only 8-9 playing nations .

In fact they have had series with England In 5 of the last 6 years .

This is just hot air from another individual who does not want to get involved with the PCB set up , but had to criticise for the sake of criticising.

We will have to play Zimbabwe , SL , West Indies etc in between playing the so called “big boys “.
 
silentkiller187 said:
might aswel kick all the other teams out of cricket then and focus on aus india and england?
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No. Playing too much against the teams like Zimbabwe is the issue. Playing against Zimbabwe once in 2 years is not a bad thing at all. But since COVID Pakistan played twice against Zimbabwe and SA
 
SangasCoverDrive said:
No. Playing too much against the teams like Zimbabwe is the issue. Playing against Zimbabwe once in 2 years is not a bad thing at all. But since COVID Pakistan played twice against Zimbabwe and SA
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At present Pakistan are in the same league as teams like : Bangladesh, WI, SA so im not sure how it wouldn't help Pakistan by playing these teams?

we went to zim whilst most other countries around the world were under lockdown, if we went every 6 months fair enough but how do you expect cricket to survive when our egos say don't play this team don't play that team when in reality we are probably at the same level as them.
 
No real harm in organising tours to zimbabwe. The real issue is why they feel the need to play a full strength XI against them?
 
If teams like India, Australia, England and New Zealand start to feel the same way about playing against Pakistan, then good luck!!
 
GreenKhan said:
This is a very flawed argument from Wasim.

Just this year alone , Pakistan have toured New Zealand , South Africa and England followed by the West Indies .
So it’s not like Pakistan have been touring Zimbabwe continuously each year . Their is also only 8-9 playing nations .

In fact they have had series with England In 5 of the last 6 years .

This is just hot air from another individual who does not want to get involved with the PCB set up , but had to criticise for the sake of criticising.

We will have to play Zimbabwe , SL , West Indies etc in between playing the so called “big boys “.
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Well put.

It would have been better if he would have pointed at the need for more A team tours to develop players rather than criticizing tour of Zim by Pak national team.
 
Arrh Wasim Akram.. Bless him.
Great bowler... lets leave it at that.

Which was one of the first sides to tour Pakistan since 2009?
 
Moreover if you are so confident then send a 2nd or 3rd XI team to play against Zimbabwe. Why do you keep sending a full strength side? Atleast it is international cricket and you can try out fringe players, if you have any.

Die hard fan of Wasim Akram, but can't agree with rubbish stuff.
 
Not sure we can complain about the quality of the tours when Pakistan is performing badly when they come up against the bigger teams.

He's right about one thing, PCB needed to invest in the domestic game 10 years ago and brought in professionals. Otherwise why complain, maybe that Zimbabwe's domestic structure is superior to ours.
 
Isn't Wasim Akram part of cricket committee of PCB? I mean he is part of team which makes touring decisions. He is kinda criticizing himself.
 
The real problem is that every series is seen as a WC final. The Zimbo series was the perfect series to try new players, instead we had the likes of Asif Ali playing and failing for umpteenth time. But because Misbah is worried about his job he picks the tried and failed, not the untried. We won the series but we didnt improve our depth. The deeper issue is the lack of intelligent, talented batsman outside Babar and Riz. The young players like Shafiq need to play matches on good wickets, not be carried around to bat in nets.
 
Cric_lover4487 said:
Isn't Wasim Akram part of cricket committee of PCB? I mean he is part of team which makes touring decisions. He is kinda criticizing himself.
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Is he??? That would be hilarious.

Also, it's a strange question, Pakistan have played Zimbabwe in a bilateral just once in the last 3 years (ODIs), so it's hardly a lot. In that same time Pakistan have been in England each season for both ODIs and tests if I'm not mistaken. Back and forth with SA too, Sri Lanka...I'm sure there would have been more cricket with the kiwis and Aussies if not for the way cricket has had to be re-organised.
 
Pakistan is actually getting some decent cricket around the world to be honest, only Australia and India have proven to be a problem. Other teams players are missing series because of burn out so there's plenty of cricket to keep player busy, it just needs to be managed better.
 
SangasCoverDrive said:
Playing against Bangladesh, WI, SA won’t help either.
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SA are still an elite team in my humble opinion.

If we played another series against Ban/WI in place of Zimbabwe i would've been cool with that. Frankly a 2 test series was not required as both are miles apart in terms of skillset. 1 test match was sufficient.
 
By that logic, good teams should stop playing Pakistan because playing us will only harm their cricket
 
It's fine to organise tours with Zimbabwe, plenty of positives for them and us.

Just don't send Babar, Shaheen and all of our test match dinosaurs to take them on. That's Misbah for you.
 
If we didn’t play Zimbabwe then we wouldn’t have unearthed Imam Bradman ul Haq, the greatest Pakistani opener since Saeed Anwar.
 
The problem isn't the frequency of tours to Zimbabwe (or other lower-tier teams). The problem is how we treat these tours! Our mentally challenged management decides to play our full-strength sides against these lower tier teams instead of giving the opportunity to our second-string / fringe players.

These tours should be used to develop your bench strength instead of pocketing easy wins which actually do you more harm than good!

The blame lies with the team's management and not with PCB.
 
SangasCoverDrive said:
Playing against Bangladesh, WI, SA won’t help either.
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They are better teams, they will at least invite more competition.

It is far better than playing against Zimbabwe.

A full-strength SA, a full-strength WI are good teams to play against.

Look at how India has built up their team's momentum before large series by playing against WI and SL consistently, allowing them to experiment, rotate, and bring in new players, whilst providing out-of-form players with a chance to redeem themselves.

We need to try and do the same because teams like WI and SL would not hesitate to accept a tour to Pakistan given their current financial situations. Therefore, we need to focus on bringing them and playing against them rather than stat padding against Zimbabwe.

Australia, New Zealand, and England will only tour Pakistan frequently if we provide a very good challenge to them at home, as in, if we are able to thoroughly outclass them, they will want to have a point to prove.
 
OMB said:
Former captain Wasim Akram has reacted strongly to Pakistan's recent series loss to England, saying the real blame needs to be given to organisers, who are frequently designing tour of countries like Zimbabwe.

Former captain Wasim Akram has reacted strongly to Pakistan's recent series loss to England, saying the real blame needs to be given to organisers, who are frequently designing tour of countries like Zimbabwe. Pakistan were drubbed 0-3 to a second-string England team in the ODIs, before losing the T20Is 1-2, and last month, although they won the Test and T20Is series in Harare, the team was dealt a shock 19-run loss that got the cricket world talking.

Akram urged the management to look at India, who currently have two different teams in two different corners of the world, and reckons that although such tours are important, Pakistan need to play against tougher opponents more often to play better at the international level.

"I want to meet that genius who is organising tours of Zimbabwe. I want to offer him extra praise and say 'well done, you've done a great job'. It is not going to benefit us. It will only be helpful for them. Once in four years, I'm ok with that. If you compare with India. Their one team is in Sri Lanka, another is in England. And they can raise another team. They improved their system 10 years ago. They invested money, brought in professionals," Akram said on ARY News.

Akram, currently part of the Cricket Committee, requested people to stop recommending players to him. The former fast bowler joined the committee back in 2018 along with six more former cricketers to oversee the overall state of Pakistan cricket.

"Dear Pakistanis, please... I'm talking about the educated guys. Stop calling. Stop recommendations. This is the 21st century. Before selection, I get calls, 'pick this player, pick that player.' It's a different thing if you want someone to have a look at a player, but to ask to pick that person is embarrassing," Akram added.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/i-want-to-meet-that-genius-who-is-organising-tours-of-zimbabwe-wasim-akram-reacts-to-pakistan-s-string-of-defeats-101627379994795.html
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Wasim can't think straight here. How about we apply the same logic to your own team, and guess what you notice?

::: news flash ::: WE ARE JUST LIKE ZIMBABWE TO THOSE TOP TIER TEAMS.

And they are not interested in playing with such a third class team just as we don't wanna play with Zimbabwe.

Fix your cricket standards, raise the quality bar, produce a tough team that has QUALITY, and you will see that those good teams would like to play more with you automatically.

Start with firing MisQar !

Bring a qualified team of professionals who have a track record of making a difference in their speciality.

These babaa-e-tuk tuk and deyhaati mindset of an egoistic former pace bowler as your coaching staff is signing your own death certificate.

combined, they have been with this team for how long? At least 10 years?
And you still haven't learned ???? For goodness sake, wake up!

Start school level cricket. And hunt for naturally gifted talent and train them to follow exemplary work ethics.

And if you want to organize more international tours then focus on sending Pak A teams to more n more tours.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
No real harm in organising tours to zimbabwe. The real issue is why they feel the need to play a full strength XI against them?
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Exactly this point play any small team but send your B team players. So you can find one or two players with maturity and skills for international games
 
Poor argument by Wasim.

The issue was not touring Zimbabwe. The issue was taking a first XI to Zimbabwe.
 
Both evenly matched teams Pak won a close t20 series 2-1.

If it weren’t for Fawads runs Pak would have shelled a test to them aswell, as captain calamity was getting ducks!!
 
Rubbish talk!!! Who is the genius who appointed Misbah, Waqar and Majed? Even with Zimbabwe we cannot convincingly win all matches with main XI.
 
Only Rizwan and his over inflated stats benefit from Zimbabwe tours
 
No issue in tours like Zimbabwe. However we should test our bench strength in these tours.. no point of playing with your 1st 11
 
He is always criticizing without ever being a part of the solution.
He is in the cricket committee now where he is probably only doing lip service. Every time PCB has asked him to take on a bigger role, he has refused.
 
Sunny_majoka said:
No issue in tours like Zimbabwe. However we should test our bench strength in these tours.. no point of playing with your 1st 11
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This. Such tours should be used to test the bench strength. No point in playing with the 1st 11.
 
Exactly what I was saying in another thread of how we are always caught up playing teams like Zimbabwe, Afghanistan even Bangladesh. Compare how often we play them to how often India, Australia, England and even New Zealand do. The PCB should either play the bigger sides in the UAE or visit them to improve our pathetic team. That is the only way Pak will improve by playing the top sides.
 
PakLFC said:
Exactly what I was saying in another thread of how we are always caught up playing teams like Zimbabwe, Afghanistan even Bangladesh. Compare how often we play them to how often India, Australia, England and even New Zealand do. The PCB should either play the bigger sides in the UAE or visit them to improve our pathetic team. That is the only way Pak will improve by playing the top sides.
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Yeah, the bigger teams are on the standby, and waiting for our orders.
 
Inflated stats due to playing too many matches against the likes of Zimbabwe, whilst most of our players look like rabbits caught in headlights when they face strong teams.

Akram has a point.
 
Since July 1 2018, Zimbabwe have played 73 matches.

18 of those matches have been against Pakistan.

That's 24.66% of their fixtures.
 
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BunnyRabbit said:
He is always criticizing without ever being a part of the solution.
He is in the cricket committee now where he is probably only doing lip service. Every time PCB has asked him to take on a bigger role, he has refused.
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PCB shouldn't be offering him a bigger role. He isn't qualified to do such administrative duties. I'm not sure what he is qualified for any more other than tv commentary, and that isn't a PCB role.
 
PakLFC said:
Exactly what I was saying in another thread of how we are always caught up playing teams like Zimbabwe, Afghanistan even Bangladesh. Compare how often we play them to how often India, Australia, England and even New Zealand do. The PCB should either play the bigger sides in the UAE or visit them to improve our pathetic team. That is the only way Pak will improve by playing the top sides.
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We have played England 3 summers in a row, when was the last time we played against Afghanistan or Bangladesh?

This is the mentality of our fans , we shouldn't play against small teams, but they forget we are now a small team, what if aus , england india turned around and said they dot want to face small teams like Pak i wonder how this thread would react then.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
PCB shouldn't be offering him a bigger role. He isn't qualified to do such administrative duties. I'm not sure what he is qualified for any more other than tv commentary, and that isn't a PCB role.
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He does have a better cricketing mind than Waqar Younis, Nadeem Khan or some of the others involved in hands on roles.
 
Saj said:
Since July 1 2018, Zimbabwe have played 73 matches.

18 of those matches have been against Pakistan.

That's 24.66% of their fixtures.
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Better to look at what % of Pakistan's fixtures are against Zim in last 2-3 years
 
Ashmal said:
Better to look at what % of Pakistan's fixtures are against Zim in last 2-3 years
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18 matches in 3 years is a lot, too many I would say, irrespective of how many matches Pakistan has played in total.

The question is, will established players improve by playing this many matches against Zimbabwe - answer No.
 
Saj said:
18 matches in 3 years is a lot, too many I would say, irrespective of how many matches Pakistan has played in total.

The question is, will established players improve by playing this many matches against Zimbabwe - answer No.
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Yeah....the main problem has been routinely playing full-strength sides against Zimbawe regardless of the number of games.

The reluctance of team management to try out younger players in these games is hard to understand.
 
Ashmal said:
Yeah....the main problem has been routinely playing full-strength sides against Zimbawe regardless of the number of games.

The reluctance of team management to try out younger players in these games is hard to understand.
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Spot on.

Ideal opponent to try youngsters against rather than pad the stats of established players.
 
Ashmal said:
Yeah....the main problem has been routinely playing full-strength sides against Zimbawe regardless of the number of games.

The reluctance of team management to try out younger players in these games is hard to understand.
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Most of them are probably just trying to save their faces and jobs by playing Pakistan’s strongest XI against weaker teams.
 
There's nothing wrong with playing against Zimbabwe. If it wasn't for teams like Pakistan ZC would have even bigger problems staying afloat because God knows they aren't getting any help from the fatcats sitting at the top.

That said, the sheer volume of matches against Zimbabwe that Pakistan has played in the last 5 years, I just don't see the need for that. There should be some sense of proportion. I also don't see why you have to send all your first team players to Zimbabwe. They have practically nothing to gain from a tour like that, whereas young players could benefit massively.
 
Ashmal said:
Yeah....the main problem has been routinely playing full-strength sides against Zimbawe regardless of the number of games.

The reluctance of team management to try out younger players in these games is hard to understand.
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Misbah needs to show some performance on the paper too.... samjha karo yar.
Sabney mil kar khana hai iss organization ko.
 
As typical, quite a few fickle responses here. Either we're the best in the World or we're just like Zimbabwe to the top teams. Have said this often before, but it's not all black and white got to the tread the grey.

People tend to forget that PCT is the reigning CT champion. If tournament cricket is anything to go by, we've got quality, but lack in consistency and professionalism. Having said that, PCT should be helping the likes of ZIM in developing their cricketing prowess, which PAK owes in moral obligation after ZIM toured us in our turbulent times. It's also an excellent thing to do, considering how the countries with much better structures/revenues aren't really doing much to expand the game other than in their own localities. Having a smaller pool of countries playing competitively does bode well for them since it prevents any form of 'unionization' of less established teams who'll find strength in numbers and start asking for a fair share.

This also gives an excellent opportunity to try out Pakistan's new talent. Hopefully, our management takes advantage of that, rather than playing close to full strength and just tiring out the players (who feed off of high-quality competition).

In summary, PCT should tour ZIM. Not because we're at 'their level' relative to the top-performing teams, but because it's the right thing to do. There's an important distinction there.
 
UzmanBeast said:
I agree with Wasim Akram, we need to play more competitive teams.

Zimbabwe should improve before we play against them. Right now, we should target New Zealand, West Indies, South Africa, and Bangladesh for more frequent tours.

We should also hope for more tours with England and Australia, preferably home series.
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Bangladesh ?? then why not Zimbabwe too ?
 
silentkiller187 said:
We have played England 3 summers in a row, when was the last time we played against Afghanistan or Bangladesh?

This is the mentality of our fans , we shouldn't play against small teams, but they forget we are now a small team, what if aus , england india turned around and said they dot want to face small teams like Pak i wonder how this thread would react then.
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Understand what I am saying. We play minnow sides much more then other top sides do, how often do Aus, India or England play Bangla, Afghan or Zimbabwe? We generally don't play as much as other teams do but it was rather recently compared to others that we played some minnow side. The likes of Eng and India don't need to say "we won't play small teams" because they hardly do!
 
mark my words, for all the big talk waz is doing, he too will turn out to be misbah-waqar-esque when given an opportunity, talking is easy, and thats all our greats are good for... not a single one of them has the cure.... our system from the roots is flawed, our cricket is purely gully muhallah style with a dash of nepotism/favouritism, its not a professional setup from the get go... until then, put whomever you want in charge, nothing will happen, nothing will change... we need nba/nhl/nfl style athletism, programs, sports culture, not some biryani eating random gully mohallah kid who happens to be better then a few others on the odd day...
 
OMB said:
Former captain Wasim Akram has reacted strongly to Pakistan's recent series loss to England, saying the real blame needs to be given to organisers, who are frequently designing tour of countries like Zimbabwe.

Former captain Wasim Akram has reacted strongly to Pakistan's recent series loss to England, saying the real blame needs to be given to organisers, who are frequently designing tour of countries like Zimbabwe. Pakistan were drubbed 0-3 to a second-string England team in the ODIs, before losing the T20Is 1-2, and last month, although they won the Test and T20Is series in Harare, the team was dealt a shock 19-run loss that got the cricket world talking.

Akram urged the management to look at India, who currently have two different teams in two different corners of the world, and reckons that although such tours are important, Pakistan need to play against tougher opponents more often to play better at the international level.

"I want to meet that genius who is organising tours of Zimbabwe. I want to offer him extra praise and say 'well done, you've done a great job'. It is not going to benefit us. It will only be helpful for them. Once in four years, I'm ok with that. If you compare with India. Their one team is in Sri Lanka, another is in England. And they can raise another team. They improved their system 10 years ago. They invested money, brought in professionals," Akram said on ARY News.

Akram, currently part of the Cricket Committee, requested people to stop recommending players to him. The former fast bowler joined the committee back in 2018 along with six more former cricketers to oversee the overall state of Pakistan cricket.

"Dear Pakistanis, please... I'm talking about the educated guys. Stop calling. Stop recommendations. This is the 21st century. Before selection, I get calls, 'pick this player, pick that player.' It's a different thing if you want someone to have a look at a player, but to ask to pick that person is embarrassing," Akram added.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/i-want-to-meet-that-genius-who-is-organising-tours-of-zimbabwe-wasim-akram-reacts-to-pakistan-s-string-of-defeats-101627379994795.html
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It isn’t just that Pakistan plays lower ranked opponents which inflates stats of average players. When we do play good teams, those series are poorly scheduled.

A minimum series against a top ranked side must include 3 Tests, 5 ODIs, and 3 T20s. That has to be a baseline.
 
1992 WC stars will never stop to screw us..

Except for 1/2 rare cases; none of them was even a decent administrator
 
moghul said:
Bangladesh ?? then why not Zimbabwe too ?
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Bangladesh in their own conditions where the ball spins are likely to cause us some trouble, so I included them on the list.

With the comeback of Shakib, and the fact that a few other players are finding their feet, they would offer a much better fight than a crippled Zimbabwe.
 
Again Wasim shows he has no clue. Its in fact a good idea for a team like Pak to play Zim. What is wrong is that the so called best 11 play every single game. What are the likes of Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, a 40 plus year old Hafeez doing in these games?

Ideal chance to test young playerd, but hey thats too much for them!
 
I appreciate that PCB owes some gratitude to Zimbabwe cricket for their support, but the number of matches is way too many.

Also it's win, win for Zimbabwe and not much to gain for Pakistan unless they were trying our lots of youngsters, which they aren't.
 
I wonder why Bangladesh-Pakistan doesn't play more LOI series with each other. While Pakistan is a superior test team, in LOIs both teams are competitive against one another. While both teams do face in Asia Cups, considering the condition of both boards, both teams should be playing each other more right?

I also think both Bangladesh and Pakistan should play more against Afghanistan. Somehow both teams play far too much vs Zimbabwe. I think 1/4th of the time BD and Pakistan are playing Zimbabwe. With all due respect to Zimbabwe, Afghanistan are far more competitive especially in shorter formats. Infact, in T20I series, Afghanistan can be arguably favourites vs Pakistan and definitely favourites vs US
 
The funny thing is that in some of series, Zimbabwe was not playing their main players but Pakistan had all their stars in the series
 
Executioner said:
I wonder why Bangladesh-Pakistan doesn't play more LOI series with each other. While Pakistan is a superior test team, in LOIs both teams are competitive against one another. While both teams do face in Asia Cups, considering the condition of both boards, both teams should be playing each other more right?

I also think both Bangladesh and Pakistan should play more against Afghanistan. Somehow both teams play far too much vs Zimbabwe. I think 1/4th of the time BD and Pakistan are playing Zimbabwe. With all due respect to Zimbabwe, Afghanistan are far more competitive especially in shorter formats. Infact, in T20I series, Afghanistan can be arguably favourites vs Pakistan and definitely favourites vs US
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Is it because of strain relationships between the countries like Pak-Ind that there aren't any bilateral series between Pak and Ban?
 
Zimbabwe tours are a great opportunity to test our bench strength but who can explain that to the think tank?
 
Saj said:
Inflated stats due to playing too many matches against the likes of Zimbabwe, whilst most of our players look like rabbits caught in headlights when they face strong teams.

Akram has a point.
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But these rabbits have also been caught in headlights by Zimbabwe :yk
 
Deewana Mastana said:
Is it because of strain relationships between the countries like Pak-Ind that there aren't any bilateral series between Pak and Ban?
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While our existing government has less affinity towards Pakistan overall, when it comes to cricket, both boards haven't have any reason to bicker. PCB did however was adamant that they will not host Bangladesh in UAE while they were hosting just about everyone in the UAE.

While the perception of safety has changed in Pakistan over the last 2-3 years, and even Bangladesh toured last year, not wanting to host Bangladesh in the UAE where they have invited so many teams did not sit well with BCB. Many folks here claimed that hosting Bangladesh is not profitable, to me that is far from the truth. Hosting Bangladesh would mean a huge number of sponsors from Bangladesh alone, which is the case whenever we tour countries like WI, Zim, SL, Ireland. Also, the large population of BD expats would flock to the stadium.
 
IMMY69 said:
Arrh Wasim Akram.. Bless him.
Great bowler... lets leave it at that.

Which was one of the first sides to tour Pakistan since 2009?
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That is so true. Zimbabwe tour was a reciprocal tour, Zimbabwe was one of the first sides to tour Pakistan after the long unofficial ban since 2009. So the least Pakistan can do is to return the favor.

Remember how hard it was just to get Bangladesh to come to Pakistan. Even now Australia is reluctant to comit for a tour
 
shaz619 said:
But these rabbits have also been caught in headlights by Zimbabwe :yk
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Very true, but the only benefit of playing Zimbabwe as many times as Pakistan has done, is if they were using the series to try out back-up players and youngsters.
 
Shows the poor attitude of Waseem Akram. I guess he would not play domestic cricket regularly during his days as it was not as important as International.

Series like Zimbabwe are good fillers if cricketers are free. Broadcasters get something.

Only issue is Pakistan should play a second string team with the vice captain taking over. It is annoying watching us play our full squad and see them bow to the pressure.
 
Not playing youngsters against Zimbabwe is unjustifiable especially as there are no A team tours happening.
 
The notion that Pakistan is lagging behind because it doesn’t get to play the top teams consistently is complete baloney and nothing more than a sad coping mechanism.

Pakistan can play the top sides every week and they would still get battered 90% of the time.

We are a shockingly poor cricket nation.
 
Mamoon said:
The notion that Pakistan is lagging behind because it doesn’t get to play the top teams consistently is complete baloney and nothing more than a sad coping mechanism.

Pakistan can play the top sides every week and they would still get battered 90% of the time.

We are a shockingly poor cricket nation.
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Don’t think any poster has said ‘ Pakistan is lagging behind because it doesn’t get to play the top teams consistently’. The fact is that playing teams like Zimbabwe allows our players who’ve failed against the top teams to then stat pad against minnows and avoiding a chance of being dropped.

We should be playing our best xi against the top teams, and our second xi vs Zimbabwe. But now we’re stuck with stat padding specialist like Imam ul Haq.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Don’t think any poster has said ‘ Pakistan is lagging behind because it doesn’t get to play the top teams consistently’. The fact is that playing teams like Zimbabwe allows our players who’ve failed against the top teams to then stat pad against minnows and avoiding a chance of being dropped.

We should be playing our best xi against the top teams, and our second xi vs Zimbabwe. But now we’re stuck with stat padding specialist like Imam ul Haq.
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When you are a pathetic team, there is no point in resting the main players. These type of series are the only ones where these players can make merry, string some wins together and make records.

Playing B and C teams is a luxury only for those teams whose first-choice team is worth something.

Our first-choice team gets humiliated by England D, so why won’t they play against the likes of Zimbabwe to taste success?

Besides, the vast majority of our young players in domestic cricket have zero talent and ability. You start picking kids against Zimbabwe and they would end up losing.

So in summary, Pakistan would be losing against the big teams with the main team and would be losing against the minnows with the youth team.

Why would the team management do something so idiotic just because the fans have lost their marbles and are not thinking it through?
 
Mamoon said:
When you are a pathetic team, there is no point in resting the main players. These type of series are the only ones where these players can make merry, string some wins together and make records.

Playing B and C teams is a luxury only for those teams whose first-choice team is worth something.

Our first-choice team gets humiliated by England D, so why won’t they play against the likes of Zimbabwe to taste success?

Besides, the vast majority of our young players in domestic cricket have zero talent and ability. You start picking kids against Zimbabwe and they would end up losing.

So in summary, Pakistan would be losing against the big teams with the main team and would be losing against the minnows with the youth team.

Why would the team management do something so idiotic just because the fans have lost their marbles and are not thinking it through?
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You cannot expect Pakistan cricket to improve if you keep picking players who fail against the top teams and then secure their spot by playing well against minnows. The same player will then end up getting picked for another big tour and everyone will be shell shocked as to how he failed again after doing so well vs Zimbabwe. It’s an endless cycle and it needs to be broken.

PCB should be thinking ahead for the future, give the youngsters a chance vs teams like Afghanistan, Ireland and Zimbabwe, give those players the exposure at the top level before you play them against the top teams. No one cares if a Pakistan C team loses to Zimbabwe, just like you don’t care about India C losing to Sri Lanka in the T20’s.
 
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