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ICC needs to implement closed roof stadiums in flagship World Cups

Sarwar89

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SENA region has consistently been a let down in terms of rain threats and ruining many world cup games.

People travelled from across the world to see India v Pakistan match at iconic MCG, they took days off from work, booked expensive air tickets, hotel bookings & in the end what is the end result ?

Rain will probably waahout the match which was supposed to be watched by 90000 people in MCG and over 1 billion on TV.

For some specific matches closed roof shall be an option like Wimbledon. SENA region had money & they can have this facility in atleast 1/2 stadiums across the country.

Whether one likes it or not UAE never has any rain threat. If you look at 1992 world cup and 2015 world cup
South Africa were robbed due to rain rules. Pakistan suffered same fate in 2019 world cup ( sri lanka game).
And india suffered as well in 2019 world cup.

World is moving so fast that people hardly give timd to sports, as money has become very important than social gatherings to watch sport.

With rain affected tournaments & luck deciding fate of critical icc cup matches. Interest will go down.

As an institution ICC did not bother to learn from farce of 2007 world cup final. How can a world cup final be 38 over event ?

I have met people who do not care about cricket but wanted to watch ind v pak mcg contest. A washout will ensure many more cricket fans will move away.
 
Should have worked on it since ninties. But ICC is world's most incompetent sports body.
 
The India vs Pak and Aus vs NZ matches should be moved to the Docklands Stadium.
 
The India vs Pak and Aus vs NZ matches should be moved to the Docklands Stadium.

Do that ground also have capacity of 90 000? Otherwise many people who is supposed to go to SCG will miss that match, would be unfair.

Nothing to do, if it rains then it will rain. Yeh kahi decades pehlay sochna tha
 
*In #7 I meant MCG and not SCG, apologies.
 
I think ICC should make it mandatory for every test playing nations to have one rooftop stadium to host any icc events.
 
I think ICC should make it mandatory for every test playing nations to have one rooftop stadium to host any icc events.

Spot on, well said.
I would recommend 2 venues.

Because apart from Ind v Pak,
Eng v Aus or

Even

Aus v Nz

is also a big rivalry from sports perspective

Someone suggested that ind v pak shall be moved away from MCG to docklands stadium.
It is too little too late. As mcg has 100 K capacity & people bought tickets already.

Instead MCG should have rooftop & Sydney cricket ground.
 
It's not easy to change all the arrangements at the last moment.

Its not that difficult:

- Refund the fans who bought tickets for MCG (which they will have to do anyway due to the rain)
- Global tv audience is more than the people in the stadium - so they need to be happy and they will be happy even if the match takes place in an empty stadium
- Just pick up the camera equipment and move it to Docklands Stadium
- Use a drop in pitch
- Have the attitude that the match will be played no matter what
 
Why have the ICC not figured out a contingency for rain in high profile tournaments?

Australia has an indoor stadium. Why not have 4 reserve days between the end of the group stage and the knockout stage and use those to complete any rained out matches? You can fit 3 t20 matches in one day. The point of using the indoor cricket stadium is to be safe from the rain.

Its really unfair on teams to get screwed over by rain.
 
You cant play a group game on reserve day.

The reason for that is you would need to move equipment, than have to reissue the tickets to public etc.

You have to do a Cost benefit analysis. If it doesnt cost too much and can be covered than sure. But if it costs alot of money than there is no point.

For Finals they probably do have reserve but not for normal group matches.
 
There is a contingency but people wont like it.

Play all WC matches in Dubai.
 
You cant play a group game on reserve day.

The reason for that is you would need to move equipment, than have to reissue the tickets to public etc.

You have to do a Cost benefit analysis. If it doesnt cost too much and can be covered than sure. But if it costs alot of money than there is no point.

For Finals they probably do have reserve but not for normal group matches.

Play in an empty stadium, have the TV equipment ready beforehand for the reserve days. The TV audience will more than cover the absent stadium audience. Tournaments should not be decided on weather.

Ridiculous how even if its raining a football match continues, but in cricket we can't seem to find anyway around this issue.
 
Play in an empty stadium, have the TV equipment ready beforehand for the reserve days. The TV audience will more than cover the absent stadium audience. Tournaments should not be decided on weather.

Ridiculous how even if its raining a football match continues, but in cricket we can't seem to find anyway around this issue.

it cost alot of money and time to move and set up tv equipment. You have to shift all camreras, set up a broadcast room. DRS equipment is a seeperate cost. Wiring to pitch needs to be attached.

Wickets need to be made, ground needs to be reserved and paid in rents.

Its not worth it, just an extra overhead cost.

Also, we keep seeing the football example. Cricket is more of technicle sport which relies on the pitch, ball and ground conditions. Even if your bat gets water on it, it becomes a dead wood. If a ball hits a damp surface of the pitch, bounce becomes uneven and can even get dangerous. Even right now the bowler, the batter and the keeper slipped which is again dangerous
 
Btw, Nagarva got injured because of this.

Zimbabwe didnt even try to delay time, even though they would had lost a point.

Zimbabwe captain was smart, as he didnt risk Muzrabani and Jongwe due to the terrible conditions. Nagarva might be out of the world cup so lets see.

This is why you cant continue to play in rain which many posters complain about around here
 
And where exactly are these billions coming from to fund this...?

Polythene sheets would cost very little I believe all boards can afford it except PCB who are already struggling to raise funds to install chairs at stadiums since past 7 decades.
 
Polythene sheets would cost very little I believe all boards can afford it except PCB who are already struggling to raise funds to install chairs at stadiums since past 7 decades.

Polythene sheets aren't going to support hundred of thousands of tons of water.
 
I don't think Cricket generates enough money outside the subcontinent for roofs to be installed. All the stadiums in Australia are multi-purpose anyways and AFL or Rugby aren't affected by rain so I don't see why they would bother.
 
Why would you spend millions on building a roof and then add significantly to its ongoing maintenance and upkeep. Besides how many boards have pockets deep enough to afford one.

A more prudent approach would be consider the weather as a factor for that time of the year in that region and have adequate reserve time and/or days. Another option is to improve ground drainage facilities so play can be restored at a much quicker pace after a weather event.

The T20 game needs roughly 4 hours and if you remove the break, the game could be over in around 3 hours. That means you can have multiple games on the reserve day.

Besides. the game when played in an open ground brings other dynamics into play making it more or less challenging. What are we asking for next, replace natural grass with astroturf. !!!
 
I've thought about this for a long time. Cricket has been affected by rain on so many occasions. Many semi-finals and finals even have been ruined or made unfair for one team or the other due to rain. A lot of test matches washed out too. They made a whole reserve day for the Pakistan India Asia Cup game last year to accommodate the rain. So why hasn't cricket invested in the option to close the stadiums? A retractable roofing system that can cover the ground if needed and obviously, these would be rare circumstances. 90% of cricket matches are not affected by rain. All the stadiums would not even require this so for the games that are scheduled on days that expect rain, they could be scheduled in a roofed stadium in advance.

I understand that this won't be the case with every stadium right away. It's a very complex project and would require significant time and construction but starting with a few now could result in it being a normal thing 10-15 years down the line?Cricket is a global sport and they could really use this to advance cricket going forward.

Baseball is the closest game to cricket and some of the MLB cities do have roofed stadiums which allow them to play even in harsh weather conditions. Some football and NFL stadiums also have retractable roofs as well.

Every cricket ground won't need one. A lot of them should be left alone. Neither is rain a regular occurrence. But perhaps there being at least one in every country and maybe multiple in others could be beneficial. A lot of sports have this and with the world advancing really fast, this could help globalize cricket and make it a more versatile sport

I assume this is a silly idea. But thoughts?
 
I've thought about this for a long time. Cricket has been affected by rain on so many occasions. Many semi-finals and finals even have been ruined or made unfair for one team or the other due to rain. A lot of test matches washed out too. They made a whole reserve day for the Pakistan India Asia Cup game last year to accommodate the rain. So why hasn't cricket invested in the option to close the stadiums? A retractable roofing system that can cover the ground if needed and obviously, these would be rare circumstances. 90% of cricket matches are not affected by rain. All the stadiums would not even require this so for the games that are scheduled on days that expect rain, they could be scheduled in a roofed stadium in advance.

I understand that this won't be the case with every stadium right away. It's a very complex project and would require significant time and construction but starting with a few now could result in it being a normal thing 10-15 years down the line?Cricket is a global sport and they could really use this to advance cricket going forward.

Baseball is the closest game to cricket and some of the MLB cities do have roofed stadiums which allow them to play even in harsh weather conditions. Some football and NFL stadiums also have retractable roofs as well.

Every cricket ground won't need one. A lot of them should be left alone. Neither is rain a regular occurrence. But perhaps there being at least one in every country and maybe multiple in others could be beneficial. A lot of sports have this and with the world advancing really fast, this could help globalize cricket and make it a more versatile sport

I assume this is a silly idea. But thoughts?
I believe they used to have xlosed door stadiums, no clue what happened after
 
A solution is required cos this is not good for cricket. But a retractable roof is extremely expensive. PCB can't even get their stadiums in good order so a roof would be a mere pipe dream.

Would be too expensive for the big three as well.
 
It means the flagship tournament will take place on a single ground because we don't have many available in world cricket.
 
A solution is required cos this is not good for cricket. But a retractable roof is extremely expensive. PCB can't even get their stadiums in good order so a roof would be a mere pipe dream.

Would be too expensive for the big three as well.
I think this is something that the ICC should really pitch in and help out with. It's an investment for the growth and sustenance of the sport more than anything
 
It means the flagship tournament will take place on a single ground because we don't have many available in world cricket.
For now maybe, but long term planning is required. We need to save the future. 10-15 years down the line, cricket should not be affected by rain all the time
 
It's not going to be a great idea, what happens when aggressive players like rizwan or babar hits a very high long SIX and it hits the roof and bounces back in the ground?
you did raise an interesting point. I'm curious to know how high the rooftop should be for cricket. At some point, it might become impractical. While you can get away with soccer and even football, in cricket, the ball can go really high. Perhaps implementing a rule like being out if the ball hits the roof or requiring the ball to be caught with one hand after it bounces off the roof should be considered:)
 
you did raise an interesting point. I'm curious to know how high the rooftop should be for cricket. At some point, it might become impractical. While you can get away with soccer and even football, in cricket, the ball can go really high. Perhaps implementing a rule like being out if the ball hits the roof or requiring the ball to be caught with one hand after it bounces off the roof should be considered:)
The One-hand rule sounds like a typical gully cricket rule like One-tip catch out. Sounds funny. But yes, as far as rain is concerned, there should definitely be something done to save the game. Rain should not be playing spoil party every now and then.
 
I think this is something that the ICC should really pitch in and help out with. It's an investment for the growth and sustenance of the sport more than anything
Just putting some numbers out there for context, Wimbledon Centre Court roof, much smaller than a cricket stadium cost $86m. The Real Madrid's Santiago Bernabeu's new roof cost nearly $450m.

Just sling a huge tarpaulin from one side to the other to cover the stadium. :D
 

Cricket facing its own climate test​


Rain is the scourge of cricket. It has the capacity to whip up conflicting feelings. Players may feel that it has rescued their team from looming defeat or denied them of certain victory.

Spectators may feel the same way but will not have the cover of a pavilion or dressing room in which to shelter. Furthermore, they are likely to feel deprived of part of their entrance fee. These feelings used to be commonly associated with cricket in the British Isles. This may still linger, given the wet start to the 2024 county cricket season, but it is no longer universally the case.

In the UAE, of all places, a year of rain is reported to have fallen in 24 hours, from late Monday to Tuesday. At 3 p.m. on Monday it was as dark as the night. Some reports suggested that cloud seeding was the cause, but why might that have been deployed at that time of year? The EU’s Copernicus Climate Change Service reports that the Earth recorded its hottest March on record, the 10th consecutive month to reach that feat. These all-time monthly highs were observed both in the air and in water. The Copernicus report judged that the temperatures were the result of decades of human-caused warming and El Nino climate patterns.

Obtaining a consensus on the causes seems beyond reach, although data points to an extraordinary surge in temperatures around the planet. This may stop once El Nino patterns end and temperatures cool. It is not yet possible to know if a fundamental shift has occurred in the Earth’s climate. In this uncertain moment, longer-term decisions have to be made by those responsible for running cricket.

An example of this is real in Worcester, England. Since 1896, Worcestershire County Cricket Club’s home has been at New Road, nestling under the watchful eye of the neighboring cathedral. This provides it with iconic status in the eyes of the cricketing world. The ground also sits on the west bank of the River Severn which, in recent years, has flooded with increasing regularity. This season, the county’s first two matches cannot be played there because the ground has not recovered from the winter’s flooding. Instead, they will be played at Kidderminster, 25km north.

The increased frequency and severity of flooding is causing the club’s management to assess alternative options to sustain its future. Amongst these are improved flood-alleviation measures and a move away from New Road, a prospect that is anathema to many supporters. The city is mindful of what happened to its soccer and rugby teams. The former moved grounds in 2013, resulting in a nomadic existence for a decade and a drop of three levels in the game’s pyramid. Its rugby team entered receivership in October 2022.

This sorrowful tale, thrown into stark perspective for Worcestershire CCC by adverse climate events, differs from the effects of adverse weather in other parts of the world. In the UAE, the effects were to cause the cancellation of a quadrangular tournament between the women’s T20 teams of the UAE, the US, the Netherlands and Scotland in Abu Dhabi. This was planned as a warm-up event before the ICC women’s T20I qualifying tournament in Abu Dhabi, set to open on April 25. Players have been deprived of valuable match practice, but that deprivation pales against that suffered by local residents.

During the Asia Premier Cup in Oman, there was rain, not of UAE proportions, but sufficient to disrupt some matches. The urbane curator of south Indian descent, Annop C Kandy, remarked that he had rarely seen rain in his eight years in charge and would normally expect temperatures in the 40°C range during April — an antidote to notions of a warming planet. He also revealed that whatever rain did fall came from the west and was short-lived. Unusually, this rain was from the south and southeast.

It caused much work for the curator and his staff, who coped admirably, notably when placing covers over the pitches during heavy windy conditions. Six of the 24 matches were shortened, two to 18 overs, two to 15 overs, one to 11 overs and one to eight overs. The last one affected Saudi Arabia and Nepal, with the latter winning with four balls to spare. It will never be known how the match would have played out if 20 overs had been possible.

Given that international cricket is now played around the world throughout the year, it should be no surprise that the probability of matches being affected by adverse weather has increased. It also seems that the severity of the impact is increasing. A recent example of this has occurred in Scotland. Unprecedented poor weather delayed pitch preparation at a ground near Dundee where a Cricket World Cup League 2 tournament between Scotland, Namibia and Oman was postponed. Originally due to take place between May 2 and 12, it is now scheduled for July, with the agreement of the three countries and the International Cricket Council.

It should not be forgotten that the 2023 Indian Premier League final was affected by rain in Ahmedabad. The match was originally scheduled to be played on May 28, but was postponed to the reserve day, May 29. This was the first time that the IPL final had been postponed because of adverse weather. Chennai Super Kings’ response was delayed for over an hour by rain and then the target adjusted with the innings being reduced to 15 overs. This outcome for a showpiece final was not ideal.

Although rain is regarded as cricket’s traditional bete noire, other climate issues have begun to be felt. During the ODI World Cup in India last November, extreme heat levels affected players, as did very high levels of air pollution, especially in Delhi. Cricketers and their administrators can do little to prevent the causes of these problems. What they are faced with is the need to devise and adopt measures which ameliorate the impact of climate issues and enhance the game’s sustainability. This may be about to get more difficult.

 
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