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'If a Muslim kills a cow in front of Hindus, is it an offence?' IP university law exam asks question on religion

This comes after a few days of lynching a police inspector in mob violence over alleged cow slaughter in Bulandshahr, Uttar Pradesh.


The Guru Gobind Singh Indraprastha University (GGSIPU) conducted its end-term law examination for third semester November-December 2018.

During the exam of Law of Crimes-I held on December 7, 2018, IP University has given a shock to its students and to the education system in India.

First question of the paper

Part A of the exam featured a question based on religion which asked the examinee about 'A Muslim slaughtering a cow in the presence of Hindus.'

Here's what was asked:

Ahmed, a Muslim kills a cow in a market in the presence of Rohit, Tushar, Manav and Rahul, who are Hindus. Has Ahmed committed any offence?"

De-humanizing Muslim community in education

This came into light when Bilal Anwar, an Advocate in Supreme Court, India shared the picture of the question on his Twitter handle on December 9, 2018.

After the circulation on the social media, the university has expressed the regret and decided to remove the question. It also said that the students will not be evaluated on their answer, Indian Express reported.

Manish Sisodia on the case

On this situation, Manish Sisodia, Delhi Education Minister had ordered an inquiry about the question based on religion as it seems to be an attempt to disturb the harmony of society.

Lynching in Bulandshahr

This comes after a few days of lynching a police inspector in mob violence over alleged cow slaughter in Bulandshahr, Uttar Pradesh.

According to the inspector's sister statement to India Today, her brother was killed in a conspiracy by the police as he was probing in an Akhlaq lynching case, a cow slaughtering case happened in Dadri a few years back.
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https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/news/story/ggsipu-law-exam-religion-1407036-2018-12-11
 
Are they Hindu's or Muslim's killing all the cows whose beef India exports? There again you have typical Indian hypocrisy and double standards for all to see.
 
Lol India and it's love affair with Cows has become tge laughing stock of the World. Even Indians are embarrassed to defend their government these days.
 
Its a criminal offence. Leftist Media may not like it, but cow slaughtering is banned in UP since 1955.
 
PakLFC said:
Are they Hindu's or Muslim's killing all the cows whose beef India exports? There again you have typical Indian hypocrisy and double standards for all to see.
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Buffalo meat is exported. Not cow meat.
 
Pakistanian said:
I think India should sanction any country that consumes cow meat. Boycott any country that doesn't respect the cow.
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India is not America, that attacks countries which doesn't respect America or doesn't give it oil.
 
The question is pathetic, but understandable considering the ruling govn ...but the law remains.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Its a criminal offence. Leftist Media may not like it, but cow slaughtering is banned in UP since 1955.
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The law doesn't specify which religion does it, question could had been is it an offense to cut a cow but no they had to.mention Muslim, which no way was required.

Don't blame media for pathetic question.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Its a criminal offence. Leftist Media may not like it, but cow slaughtering is banned in UP since 1955.
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That isnt even the point in this scenario.

I always have to make analogies so that people from the subcontinent can think about things objectively.

Imagine in the U.S. a school had an exam question saying something like "Jamal, a black man, robs Kevin, a white man, is this considered a crime?"

Lets move past the ridiculousness of the question being on the exam in the first place. Of course its a crime, but what does the race/ethnicity of the criminals have to do with the question?

Similarly, if a Hindu/Christian/Muslim/Atheist/Buddhist/etc... slaughters a cow in parts of India is it not a crime? Why single out one minority?
 
JaDed said:
Not really, Up gonna be Up here MP has done well under Shivraj even Bihar is improving a lot, Up needs to be divided I to 4..
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Of course you can make a ranking within BIMARU. But they are still a collective and full of bad news each day every day.
 
JaDed said:
The law doesn't specify which religion does it, question could had been is it an offense to cut a cow but no they had to.mention Muslim, which no way was required.

Don't blame media for pathetic question.
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it's obvious it targets Islam, Muslims used to kill the cow to specifically insult Hindus, beginning with bin Qasim during the conquest of Multan or the fact that they sacrificed one during Eid ul Adha while it was not even a religious obligation (to choose this animal as qurbani) throughout the centuries, AFAIK Christians never did something like this.
 
That is a good thought provoking question. something that i could frame if i was setting the question paper.
 
India is after all a hindu majority country. It would be offensive for a hindu to see a cow being sacrificed and this has been the case for thousands of years.
So i really dont know why we are amused about it.

It is their country and they are free to make their rules. Muslims are of course free to implement Islamic laws in their countries.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
I can see that, certainly re-veal-ing how emotional such discussions tend to get
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We can have these discussions till the cows come home, although I am expecting words of Cowtion from Joshila and CC bhais very soon.
 
Hurt, but not surprised, to see the usual suspects mocking my religious beliefs.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "All creatures are dependants of Allah, and the most favored among them by Allah is the one who is most helpful to His dependants."
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The dependants includes cows.
 
gazza619 said:
India is after all a hindu majority country. It would be offensive for a hindu to see a cow being sacrificed and this has been the case for thousands of years.
So i really dont know why we are amused about it.

It is their country and they are free to make their rules. Muslims are of course free to implement Islamic laws in their countries.
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Something most pakistanis here refuse to understand.
 
gazza619 said:
India is after all a hindu majority country. It would be offensive for a hindu to see a cow being sacrificed and this has been the case for thousands of years.
So i really dont know why we are amused about it.

It is their country and they are free to make their rules. Muslims are of course free to implement Islamic laws in their countries.
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How offensive is it exactly? You would think if it was considered so offensive cow slaughter would be universally banned across all India rather than some states only. Personally I would think it would be obvious that slaughtering a cow publicly would be offensive, that's why I'm surprised the question would even be asked. Seems the Indian public are as confused about this as the rest of us.
 
gazza619 said:
India is after all a hindu majority country. It would be offensive for a hindu to see a cow being sacrificed and this has been the case for thousands of years.
So i really dont know why we are amused about it.

It is their country and they are free to make their rules. Muslims are of course free to implement Islamic laws in their countries.
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Agreed however I think the question here is the intentions of whoever is behind setting this question. Muslims in India are marginalised minority and the propoganda like question only makes them more vulnerable against the far-right mobs.
 
topspin said:
Agreed however I think the question here is the intentions of whoever is behind setting this question. Muslims in India are marginalised minority and the propoganda like question only makes them more vulnerable against the far-right mobs.
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Your questioning of the intention says more about you. i think the question was asked so that there would be a debate and hindus would do soul searching, and muslims would be sensitized to the sensibilities of the hindus.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Your questioning of the intention says more about you. i think the question was asked so that there would be a debate and hindus would do soul searching, and muslims would be sensitized to the sensibilities of the hindus.
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Why can't they use "Non-Hindu" instead of Muslim in the question because the slaughter of cows in India is illegal and I respect that, whether it be from Muslims or any other belief.
 
topspin said:
Why can't they use "Non-Hindu" instead of Muslim in the question because the slaughter of cows in India is illegal and I respect that, whether it be from Muslims or any other belief.
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why be generic when you can be specific. it is not like sikhs, buddhists and jains are killing cows.
 
CricketCartoons said:
another whataboutism. don't know how many of them kill cows, but being a tiny percentage they don't represent the cow eating population.
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So would it be correct to say that the cow slaughter industry is run wholly by Muslims, and they conduct this ritual in public?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
So would it be correct to say that the cow slaughter industry is run wholly by Muslims, and they conduct this ritual in public?
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no, it would be incorrect. there would be lot of hindus involved too (because money is the greatest god), and sensible people would be conducting it in closed spaces, unless they want to provoke like the resident hindu hater whose name I am forgetting.
 
CricketCartoons said:
no, it would be incorrect. there would be lot of hindus involved too (because money is the greatest god), and sensible people would be conducting it in closed spaces, unless they want to provoke like the resident hindu hater whose name I am forgetting.
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I am trying to establish if the slaughter of cows is carried out in public, but your answer is not specific. I agree that sensible people would be conducting it in enclosed spaces, but the exam question would imply that many Muslims think nothing of carrying out in public. Is that correct?

Resident hindu hater is of course your PP bosom buddy enkidu, may Allah bless his efforts.
 
CricketCartoons said:
why be generic when you can be specific. it is not like sikhs, buddhists and jains are killing cows.
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So lets generalise all Muslims, degrade and humiliate them right? This kind of rhethoric and narrative is the reason why you have right wing village mobs who kill Muslims. What makes it worse they're as gullible as you are, if you have a problem with a Muslim in a village all it takes is to whisper "cow-killer" and they end up being beaten to death.

Cow killing in India should be condemned since it is illegal however even if the practice takes place in the open taking the law into your own hands is uncivilised and barbaric. Unfortunate you share the same mentality as the right wing mobs.
 
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topspin said:
So lets generalise all Muslims, degrade and humiliate them right? This kind of rhethoric and narrative is the reason why you have right wing village mobs who kill Muslims. What makes it worse they're as gullible as you are, if you have a problem with a Muslim in a village all it takes is to whisper "cow-killer" and they end up being beaten to death.

Cow killing in India should be condemned since it is illegal however even if the practice takes place in the open taking the law into your own hands is uncivilised and barbaric. Unfortunate you share the same mentality as the right wing mobs.
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Where is the degradation and humiliation? Not sure what you are implying. Do you think the question in the exam was humiliating for muslims? How a hypothetical question of someone killing an animal is humiliating and degrading is beyond me.
 
Itachi said:
Buffalo meat is consumed by Hindus in many places. Not cow meat.
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Does it taste better?

There is little difference between a buffalo and cow, both produce milk. My question was why do Hindus see the cow as holy and not the buffalo?
 
KingKhanWC said:
Does it taste better?

There is little difference between a buffalo and cow, both produce milk. My question was why do Hindus see the cow as holy and not the buffalo?
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The cow is cleaner, while the buffalo wallows in mud and dirt and is a dirty animal overall. Cleanliness is next to Godliness, all religions agree on this maxim.
 
CricketCartoons said:
The cow is cleaner, while the buffalo wallows in mud and dirt and is a dirty animal overall. Cleanliness is next to Godliness, all religions agree on this maxim.
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These are just the surroundings the buffalo enjoys, a quick wash and it's as clean as a cow. Makes no sense.
 
I worry for whoever gets the answer to that question wrong. Their name is printed on the paper, easy to find their address, and before you know it we have a lynching on our hands.
 
KingKhanWC said:
These are just the surroundings the buffalo enjoys, a quick wash and it's as clean as a cow. Makes no sense.
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Religion doesn't make sense boss, why even try to understand it, just have a peg oh wait lol
 
Third_Umpire said:
I worry for whoever gets the answer to that question wrong. Their name is printed on the paper, easy to find their address, and before you know it we have a lynching on our hands.
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Just to annoy the Yogi govn a Hindu upper caste should write "no its not an offense, what is offensive is our CM wearing saffron clad clothes"
 
enkidu_ might actually respect Hindu religion more than Hindus lol , so much into religion ,man!
 
Why Muslims specifically? If I’m not wrong, then there are other communities in India that are non-vegetarian.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Buffalo meat is exported. Not cow meat.
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Not quite correct. Mostly buffalo but also some cows. Interestingly, India is second only to Brazil as an exporter of beef. Don't think I've ever eaten Indian beef in UK, but sure would have had the local stuff while visiting the in-laws in Kolkata. It is quite a relief to have a state government who are not religious bigots. Can order fillet without the fear of being filleted!
 
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