If England can persist with Eoin Morgan post 2015, why can't Pakistan persist with Sarfaraz Ahmed?

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Enough of this cry of removing Sarfraz, we have had captains who performed much much worse like Misbah, Inzi, Waqar in WCs


It would be a shame to remove a captain when you have no other captaincy option apart from Shadab maybe.

Imad place in the ODI side is a big question mark, Babar captaincy will be like Tendulkar captaincy as was seen in the 2012 U19 WC.

This thread is inspired by [MENTION=2344]W63L35[/MENTION] thread that showed the WL ratio of Sarfraz on top of all T20 Captains.

I seriously beg the PCB to only sack him for Tests.

 

[hur rizvi]

Because Morgan’s place was never in question as a player

 

[Pakistanian]

Morgan was 28 after the 2015 wc, Sarfaraz is 33 right now.

 

[Xoib]

I don't mind him as limited overs captain but we surely need a new test captain the bloke is the most clueless test captain since Mo Yo

 

[shah_1]

He needs to seriously perform as a player. How can anyone inspire the team with poor quality batting in last two years?

 

[Junaids]

1. Sarfraz Ahmed is not a good enough batsman to be a modern wicketkeeper, so he has no place in the team - because Mohammad Rizwan is a far superior batsman who can bat at 6.

2. Sarfraz Ahmed's disgusting comments to Andile Phehlukwayo show that he is unfit to be the captain of his country.

3. His fitness is inadequate, and he appears to be at least 4 years older than his official age, which means that he is only going to get worse.

Three years ago after the tour to England I thought that Sarfraz was Pakistan's best player. But he has got worse and worse with both the gloves and the bat, and his fitness is terrible.


He no longer deserves a place in the team.

 

[big_gamer007]

Agreed sarfaraz needs to be there to guide the youngsters till 2023 WC along with Hafeez and Malik

 

[omorst7]

Morgan's place was never in doubt!!

 

[Madplayer]

I dont know what people under rate Morgan as a player. Whats the logic behind it?

Morgan is a destructive batsman whose place in the side is not in doubt. Infact before this batting revolution took place in England, Morgan was the only modern day batsman in their team alongside KP.

I am not asking anyone to drop Sarfaraz but the comparison is ridiculous. Sarfaraz is a tail ender while Morgan is a world class batsman.

 

[Hasan123]

Sarfraz doesn't even make the team on merit. He is 32 and he is on the decline. Furthermore his captaincy other than the NZ game wasn't the reason we won the games at the WC.

The WC is hiding the cracks in this team. If no changes are made , the "so called success of the WC " will haunt us for a while.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Because Morgan’s place was never in question as a player

I think you forgot how he played in the 2015 WC

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Sarfraz doesn't even make the team on merit. He is 32 and he is on the decline. Furthermore his captaincy other than the NZ game wasn't the reason we won the games at the WC.

The WC is hiding the cracks in this team. If no changes are made , the "so called success of the WC " will haunt us for a while.

Who is his replacement as a WK?

Kamran? Rizwan? Uakmal?

Only Rohail could be a better option but we have to wait till the U19 WC is over.

 

[Hasan123]

Who is his replacement as a WK?

Kamran? Rizwan? Uakmal?

Only Rohail could be a better option but we have to wait till the U19 WC is over.

You don't keep someone who is definitely not good enough because you think there is no replacement.

Rizwan should get the first chance . If he fails you move onto one of the younger WKs.

If you think there is no keeper better than a guy who can't even bat more than 30 balls most days, we should shut down Pakistan cricket.

 

[Titan24]

Morgan was atleast fit and performing with his spot never in question. Yes dips in form can happen but I dont think Sarfaraz in form was ever a match winner as well.

Sarfaraz is unfit, 33 years of age and there are better keeper batsmen available then him. In the next WC Sarfaraz will be around 38 and with the kind of fitness he has it would be a blunder to keep him captain for next WC.

Just to shed more light on the upgrades over him available, Rizwan has scored 2 ODI centuries in 32 matches while Sarfaraz has scored the same number in 114 matches.

Umar Siddiq also has much more talent with the bat than Sarfaraz. His List A avg of 38 vs Sarfaraz’s 32 endorses the same point.

So I dont think there is any logical reasoning to retain Sarfaraz in my opinion.

 

[Obaidd]

Morgan didn’t devour Biryani/niharis, used racist slurs or yawn in matches.

Morgan has hit more sixes in a single innings (17) than specialist Captain has in his entire ODI career (12).

 

[big_gamer007]

Morgan didn’t devour Biryani/niharis, used racist slurs or yawn in matches.

Morgan has hit more sixes in a single innings (17) than specialist Captain has in his entire ODI career (12).

Ouch that's one damning post

 

[Boycottisno2]

in 2015 Morgan was not 32 as Sarfaraz is now.... he should be sacked

 

[moghul]

The person who started this thread don;t see any difference between Morgan and Sarfraz.

 

[sweep_shot]

Morgan was 28 in 2015. Sarfraz is now 32 (may not be his real age).

Morgan has been one of the best LOI batsmen in the world. Sarfraz is average.

 

[Pakistanian]

Morgan was 28 in 2015. Sarfraz is now 32 (may not be his real age).

Morgan has been one of the best LOI batsmen in the world. Sarfraz is average.

It's his real age. He looked 19 or under at the under 19 world cup. Lets stop this desi culture of assuming things.

 

[hadi123]

Huge difference. First of all, Sarfaraz is a lot older than he was + he has been captain for longer than Morgan was. Morgan deserved more time, Sarfaraz has had 2+ years. And last but not least, there's doubt whether Sarfaraz even belongs in the team.

 

[shockbound]

Huge difference. First of all, Sarfaraz is a lot older than he was + he has been captain for longer than Morgan was. Morgan deserved more time, Sarfaraz has had 2+ years. And last but not least, there's doubt whether Sarfaraz even belongs in the team.

I have been doubting Safaraz the player, not the captain though. We should ask him to keep up with fitness and batting instead of replacing him right away.

 

[Saj]

Sarfaraz looks like a man who isn't enjoying captaincy.

Also there seemed to be a lack of support from senior players for him.

It might be best for him and Pakistan cricket if he steps aside from captaincy in one or two formats.

 

[Obaidd]

As many posters have suggested in this thread, Sarfaraz first has to justify his position in the team as a keeper batsman. If he can’t make the team in his primary role, he cannot captain it.

In this role, that is as a keeper batsman, he has to be compared with his contemporaries. Butler, QDK, Mushfiq, Hope etc. These guys are arguably the best batsmen in their teams. Sarfaraz has been given an extended run and has failed to match the standards set by these men. So now, another keeper batsman should be given a run to make his case.

The captaincy business comes next. Only a person who has guaranteed spot in the XI based on merit should be the captain as with all top teams. Finch, Morgan, Kohli, Williamson.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Because sarfraz wouldn’t get into a minnow side as a batsman

 

[Obaidd]

Because sarfraz wouldn’t get into a minnow side as a batsman

Don’t you love his iconic dab to third man?

 

[gazza619]

Comparing Morgan (a guy who can single handedly murder the opposition) to Sarfaraz (whose yawn is the best in town) in nothing but a big conspiracy to the future of Pakistan cricket.

I am sorry but Sarfaraz aint good enough.

 

[Obaidd]

Sarfaraz could have been a GOAT captain in Karachi’s tape ball circuit. A bit out of place as the captain of an international team.

 

[imranyounus]

Simple question what has he done to deserve this?

can any one apprais me about his success in last three years.

The man has failed miserably and we want to keep him as captain.

 

[JibranAnsari]

First of all , he was one of the poorest wicketkeeper batsmen in the world cup.

Secondly his performances with the bat have been poor in the last 2 years , averages under 30.

Thirdly , unlike morgan his only his official age is 32 and he is sporting a belly as well.

 

[nam]

Morgan didn’t devour Biryani/niharis, used racist slurs or yawn in matches.

Morgan has hit more sixes in a single innings (17) than specialist Captain has in his entire ODI career (12).

I can counter this with another silly argument that Sarfraz has taken more catches behind the wicket in a single game than Morgan in his entire career.
And Morgan aint eating biryani/nihari coz he never tried one..

 

[Obaidd]

I can counter this with another silly argument that Sarfraz has taken more catches behind the wicket in a single game than Morgan in his entire career.
And Morgan aint eating biryani/nihari coz he never tried one..

Haha. Anyone who still wants Sarfaraz to play for Pakistan is not going to be convinced by logic.

 

[nam]

Haha. Anyone who still wants Sarfaraz to play for Pakistan is not going to be convinced by logic.

Ofcourse wheres the logic in backing up a captain who won us champions trophy and were there in the semis only to be landing on the other side of luck.. case in point exact same results for 2019 as 1992 but we were in semis then because few results went our way..
I agree that now is the time when the next captain needs to be groomed for 2023 world cup. But Sarfraz can be retained as test captain now with ICC Test Championship on the line. Just my two cents.

 

[Obaidd]

Ofcourse wheres the logic in backing up a captain who won us champions trophy and were there in the semis only to be landing on the other side of luck.. case in point exact same results for 2019 as 1992 but we were in semis then because few results went our way..
I agree that now is the time when the next captain needs to be groomed for 2023 world cup. But Sarfraz can be retained as test captain now with ICC Test Championship on the line. Just my two cents.

Look Sarfaraz has to justify his place in the team first as a keeper batsman. If he is not performing in that role then there is no way he can be a part of the team as a specialist captain.

 

[Loralai]

1. Sarfraz Ahmed is not a good enough batsman to be a modern wicketkeeper, so he has no place in the team - because Mohammad Rizwan is a far superior batsman who can bat at 6.

2. Sarfraz Ahmed's disgusting comments to Andile Phehlukwayo show that he is unfit to be the captain of his country.

3. His fitness is inadequate, and he appears to be at least 4 years older than his official age, which means that he is only going to get worse.

Three years ago after the tour to England I thought that Sarfraz was Pakistan's best player. But he has got worse and worse with both the gloves and the bat, and his fitness is terrible.


He no longer deserves a place in the team.

I agree with what you've said but the blunt truth is that his wicket keeping has never been world class. We have not had a world class gloveman since Rashid Latif.

 

[The Viper]

1. Sarfraz Ahmed is not a good enough batsman to be a modern wicketkeeper, so he has no place in the team - because Mohammad Rizwan is a far superior batsman who can bat at 6.

2. Sarfraz Ahmed's disgusting comments to Andile Phehlukwayo show that he is unfit to be the captain of his country.

3. His fitness is inadequate, and he appears to be at least 4 years older than his official age, which means that he is only going to get worse.

Three years ago after the tour to England I thought that Sarfraz was Pakistan's best player. But he has got worse and worse with both the gloves and the bat, and his fitness is terrible.


He no longer deserves a place in the team.

Sarfaraz at one point was Pakistan’s better players as he rotated the strike well and was different to the others. But his form has declined and should be removed.