If India objects to Usman Tariq’s bowling during the match, how should Pakistan respond?

[RidiculousMan]

We know Usman Tariq is trending in India and he will continue to trend so InShaAllah after the 15th game as well.

In the event during the game or more specifically during Usman Tariq's bowling if Indian batters try to play tricks or an 8 ball like doing the chuck action like Green, pulling out of batting or complaining to the Umpire. More importantly if Umpire gives the decision in favor of India and calls for dead balls or no balls.

What Pakistan's response should be? I believe Pakistan must be ready and have all plans against the nefarious Indian plans.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I doubt Indian players would behave this way. And I actually doubt on field umpire would be brave enough to call someone for chucking.

Match will be played as normal.

 

[sweep_shot]

I doubt any big drama will happen regarding Usman. He has been cleared twice.

 

[Rajdeep]

A bowler pausing for so long disrupts the stance and flow of a batsman. I think Indian batter's should consistently pull out everytime he pause. That will delay the game and umpire will force captain to take him out of attack.

 

[Devadwal]

Nothing is going to happen in this match , chill .

Yes tariq is a chucker and he will be banned very soon .

 

[Rajdeep]

The amount of time Usman Tariq pauses before every ball, our Jadeja finishes entire over in it. So time is essence here and he must not be allowed to take a pause.

 

[RidiculousMan]

I doubt Indian players would behave this way. And I actually doubt on field umpire would be brave enough to call someone for chucking.

Match will be played as normal.

Can't rely on "I doubt", Pakistan have to be ready and have plans against any curve ball that India or the umpire throws. During the high intensity game things can snap very quickly.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

A bowler pausing for so long disrupts the stance and flow of a batsman. I think Indian batter's should consistently pull out everytime he pause. That will delay the game and umpire will force captain to take him out of attack.

You want Indian team to boycott batting?

 

[Devadwal]

A bowler pausing for so long disrupts the stance and flow of a batsman. I think Indian batter's should consistently pull out everytime he pause. That will delay the game and umpire will force captain to take him out of attack.

Exactly. We can do this nut no more other drama.

 

[RidiculousMan]

A bowler pausing for so long disrupts the stance and flow of a batsman. I think Indian batter's should consistently pull out everytime he pause. That will delay the game and umpire will force captain to take him out of attack.

This exactly. Pakistan must have a contingency plan if that happens.

 

[TheSultan]

I doubt Indian players would behave this way. And I actually doubt on field umpire would be brave enough to call someone for chucking.

Match will be played as normal.

I don’t think they can call in the match any more. If they feel he’s chucking they can analyse the footage and report him after the game.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Good thing for Pakistan is that for 15th Feb game, Kumar Dharmasena and Richard Illingworth will be the on field umpires.

Kumar has had his own suspect bowling action issues during his playing days, so he understands the difference between legal or illegal action closely.

Richard officiated during the last Pak v USA game in which Tariq played and he didn't called him there, so Richard is convinced that the action is clear.

Both these umpires have never called a bowler for illegal action in their careers. I will be very surprised if they know do so against Tariq in the 15 feb game.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

This exactly. Pakistan must have a contingency plan if that happens.

Boycott, ask the captain to take his team out just like Ranatunga did 30 years ago.

Jitna toh tumhe waise bhi hai nhi, yehi sara scheming plotting karte raho bas.

 

[Ball Blazer]

If Ashwin can post in favor of Usman's bowling then why do the rest of the so-called experts need to question?

action falls under the prescribed ICC guidelines, especially the 15 degree angle.

 

[Kianig89]

Yes anything can be expected from BCCICC

 

[Ball Blazer]

The amount of time Usman Tariq pauses before every ball, our Jadeja finishes entire over in it. So time is essence here and he must not be allowed to take a pause.

Akash chopra defended the pause too

 

[Bhaijaan]

Indian players will do what Gautam Gambhir tells them to do and Gautam Gambhir is an emotional passionate proud Sanatani. He never means harm to an innocent but he will never let go any unfair act.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

On topic, there is literally zero percent chance of Tariq being called out during the match. You guys need to chill a little, enough drama already, aab baksh do please.

 

[adi_62941]

I feel Indian batters are very good in picking any unorthodox spinners. They must be doing there homework on tariq bowling by watching closely all available videos of him

he will be getting smashed because of high bounce he creates with his height.

 

[RidiculousMan]

If Ashwin can post in favor of Usman's bowling then why do the rest of the so-called experts need to question?

action falls under the prescribed ICC guidelines, especially the 15 degree angle.

Ashwin has never said Tariq's action is clear. Even in recent video he reiterated that he cannot call whether the action is legal or illegal.

 

[RidiculousMan]

I feel Indian batters are very good in picking any unorthodox spinners. They must be doing there homework on tariq bowling by watching closely all available videos of him

Erasmus troubled India with his unusual variations and the side arm delivery. Picked up 4 wickets. They are not that good.

 

[Rajdeep]

Exactly. We can do this nut no more other drama.

My wishlist from this game:

1. No handshake
2. Turn up to the ground couple of hours late
3. Pull out everytime Tariq bowls
4. No Dil Dil Pakistan must be played by the DJ
5. Close dressing room darwaza after the game.
6. SKY will only do post match interview with an Indian commentator.

Any other badmaashi I am missing @DeadlyVenom

 

[BouncerGuy]

So indians are already trying to find an excuse... Good to see a panic like this... Keep doing bhangra

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

A bowler pausing for so long disrupts the stance and flow of a batsman. I think Indian batter's should consistently pull out everytime he pause. That will delay the game and umpire will force captain to take him out of attack.

The pause is the same for each delivery which is why it is legal within the rules codified by the ICC

 

[Syed1]

I feel Indian batters are very good in picking any unorthodox spinners. They must be doing there homework on tariq bowling by watching closely all available videos of him

he will be getting smashed because of high bounce he creates with his height.

Your statement reminded me of Ajanta Mendis ripping through a famed Indian batting lineup many years ago. In cricket there are no absolutes.

 

[sweep_shot]

Your statement reminded me of Ajanta Mendis ripping through a famed Indian batting lineup many years ago. In cricket there are no absolutes.

Asia Cup 2008 final. Yup.

 

[Snowflake]

A bowler pausing for so long disrupts the stance and flow of a batsman. I think Indian batter's should consistently pull out everytime he pause. That will delay the game and umpire will force captain to take him out of attack.

The umpire can only do that if it's against the law

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

I think in an indian cricket show called 'stump mike' or stump vision or something similar hosted by Anand Natrajan - it had Monty panesar, Sreesanth, umesh yadav and Sanjay manjrekar and all 4 said clearly he is not chucking

 

[Snowflake]

My wishlist from this game:

1. No handshake
2. Turn up to the ground couple of hours late
3. Pull out everytime Tariq bowls
4. No Dil Dil Pakistan must be played by the DJ
5. Close dressing room darwaza after the game.
6. SKY will only do post match interview with an Indian commentator.

Any other badmaashi I am missing @DeadlyVenom

If closing the door behind you is considered "badmaashi" in India, then Indians are the softest badmaash in the world

 

[Devadwal]

My wishlist from this game:

1. No handshake
2. Turn up to the ground couple of hours late
3. Pull out everytime Tariq bowls
4. No Dil Dil Pakistan must be played by the DJ
5. Close dressing room darwaza after the game.
6. SKY will only do post match interview with an Indian commentator.

Any other badmaashi I am missing @DeadlyVenom

Haha. Shake hands with everyone apart from racists Faheem and Abrar.

Rest points are not needed but Yes Indian batters can also pullout of Tariq bowl after too much pause.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Why Pakistan should do what they were originally threatening, and boycott the game there and then…

 

[Chuggy]

If Ashwin can post in favor of Usman's bowling then why do the rest of the so-called experts need to question?

action falls under the prescribed ICC guidelines, especially the 15 degree angle.

Ashwin also said if he were to bat against Usman he would pull out of facing the delivery.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

In all honesty, he shouldn't play the match on 15th.

Anticipation is always worse than the real impact so let the neighbors anticipate even more that he's a secret weapon and will only be used against them if the two teams meet in the knockouts.

This match really shouldn't have any serious impact on qualification chances of both of the teams and due to pre tournament seeding, it doesn't really matter where you end up in your pool.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I think in an indian cricket show called 'stump mike' or stump vision or something similar hosted by Anand Natrajan - it had Monty panesar, Sreesanth, umesh yadav and Sanjay manjrekar and all 4 said clearly he is not chucking

I saw that show.

Yadav came across quite well. I'd never really heard him speak much before this.

 

[adi_62941]

Your statement reminded me of Ajanta Mendis ripping through a famed Indian batting lineup many years ago. In cricket there are no absolutes.

What happened to ajanta mendis when he was picked up by indian batters. he was smashed

 

[G0rmintAunty]

I think Indian batter's should consistently pull out everytime he pause.

How will they make the next generation of baby batters then? Nasal yaho khatam ho jaye gi.

 

[Snowflake]

Haha. Shake hands with everyone apart from racists Faheem and Abrar.

Rest points are not needed but Yes Indian batters can also pullout of Tariq bowl after too much pause.

What did Faheem and Abrar do?

 

[Syed1]

Indians never had a problem with Ashwin's pause but God forbid a Pakistani does the same pause.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Nothing will happen. He might get tonked around if it didn't spin

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

I saw that show.

Yadav came across quite well. I'd never really heard him speak much before this.

Sreesanth is so funny in that discussion! A real talented guy- had it all - pace, swing terrific runup and action - a super under achiever...
any ways , i also saw interview of Anil Chaudhry, international umpire and on the ICC panel and he also said no prob with core action as long as the pause time is consistent each time he does it, which means its part and parcel of his bowling action.
The interesting bit was He said the problem will arise if the pause is less or more or if he tries to spin the ball the other way and it could be a judgement call by the standing ump. Remember, this is a matter of milli seconds (the pause) and also the ump has to check for elbow flex, the degrees. The experts feel when he bowls his stock ball - the conventional one that goes away, this is ok but when he makes it turn the other way -that is marginal.

Not an easy job being an ump

 

[pakistani pride]

LOL what a thread.

 

[zahid01]

So indians are already trying to find an excuse... Good to see a panic like this... Keep doing bhangra

I would play tariq just to get under their skin we need all the help we can get wicket is likely to be a good for batting

 

[sweep_shot]

Indians never had a problem with Ashwin's pause but God forbid a Pakistani does the same pause.

Correct.

Anyway, good to see you back. Hope you are well.

 

[Local.Dada]

Indians never had a problem with Ashwin's pause but God forbid a Pakistani does the same pause.

You can’t pause for 12 hrs and then throw the ball. Ashwin did that for a brief period, it wasn’t his regular action and he did that as experiment in a couple of random LOI games when batsman were premeditating. This guy stops every bal randomly forever and then pelts it. His pause is never consistent.

 

[Babeikh]

There is nothing in the rules that says you cannot pause like that so if India start pulling out every ball then it will be interesting to see what the umpires would do in that scenario. Not sure there is anything they can do apart from urge the batsman to get on with it.

Whatever happens I am sure Indians will be crying about something, maybe the 6th floor of the Serena Hotel in Kabul.

 

[Syed1]

You can’t pause for 12 hrs and then throw the ball. Ashwin did that for a brief period, it wasn’t his regular action and he did that as experiment in a couple of random LOI games when batsman were premeditating. This guy stops every bal randomly forever and then pelts it. His pause is never consistent.

How can it be random if he does it every ball? Checkmate

 

[Local.Dada]

will be interesting to see how Dube plays him. Players from Mumbai usually play every competitive league in the circuit where you get such unique bowlers (obviously in India most don’t get to even fist class lol) . He made a reputation of being brutal against such spinners so will be interesting.

 

[Local.Dada]

How can it be random if he does it every ball? Checkmate

Pause timing. 10 seconds one ball, 2 hrs one ball , can’t work that way. Is his pause consistent with his action

 

[jnaveen1980]

if a batsman deems it as a distraction he will ask bowler to stop doing it. It is a clear distraction to wait for batsman to move and then release it as he has no other skills. GIven that there is no threshold other teams can pause even longer without run up. you got 10 whole seconds. you can wait for 8 seconds and release it. Eventually this law will come. May be we can call it Tariq law lol This will go down the Ajmal route. He will be spending time on useless podcasts crying wolf like Ajmal is doing now.

 

[Local.Dada]

if a batsman deems it as a distraction he will ask bowler to stop doing it. It is a clear distraction to wait for batsman to move and then release it as he has no other skills. GIven that there is no threshold other teams can pause even longer without run up. you got 10 whole seconds. you can wait for 8 seconds and release it. Eventually this law will come. May be we can call it Tariq law lol This will go down the Ajmal route. He will be spending time on useless podcasts crying wolf like Ajmal is doing now.

Tariq has a straighter arm than Ajmal and Hafeez. Will give him that. Make whatever of that lol.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pause timing. 10 seconds one ball, 2 hrs one ball , can’t work that way. Is his pause consistent with his action

India should repeat the same by waiting for like 5 seconds lol But do you really need such gimmickery?

 

[Local.Dada]

India should repeat the same by waiting for like 5 seconds lol But do you really need such gimmickery?

Keep pulling out against him . Also I have a feeling, this guy is going to brick it against India. Some humongous 6’s coming up. Pandya- Dube can cause carnage if they end up reading his bowling lmao.

 

[Fast bowler6929]

Lol hahaha Indians have already started crying.
Usman tariq has already won by making these rondhu Indians cry.
Keep it up Usman tariq.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Lol hahaha Indians have already started crying.
Usman tariq has already won by making these rondhu Indians cry.
Keep it up Usman tariq.

You are the one who is actually crying that his may action will be reviewed given that pakistan is known for these "short cuts" from soda bottle era, ball biting, pitch dancing etc. Almost all of them were punished

 

[Major]

A bowler pausing for so long disrupts the stance and flow of a batsman. I think Indian batter's should consistently pull out everytime he pause. That will delay the game and umpire will force captain to take him out of attack.

Learn the cricket rules.
If indian batter pulls out continuesly, than it will be the indian side who will be penalized for delaying the game.

The pause is part of his action, so its allowed. If he doesnt pause or pauses longer than its a bigger issue. Your own umpire have said this

 

[hur rizvi]

In all honesty, he shouldn't play the match on 15th.

Anticipation is always worse than the real impact so let the neighbors anticipate even more that he's a secret weapon and will only be used against them if the two teams meet in the knockouts.

This match really shouldn't have any serious impact on qualification chances of both of the teams and due to pre tournament seeding, it doesn't really matter where you end up in your pool.

I really like that. Pakistan should just play salman Mirza and surprise Indians

 

[Human786]

Forfeit the game & run away with the medals for the game !

 

[emranabbas]

We know Usman Tariq is trending in India and he will continue to trend so InShaAllah after the 15th game as well.

In the event during the game or more specifically during Usman Tariq's bowling if Indian batters try to play tricks or an 8 ball like doing the chuck action like Green, pulling out of batting or complaining to the Umpire. More importantly if Umpire gives the decision in favor of India and calls for dead balls or no balls.

What Pakistan's response should be? I believe Pakistan must be ready and have all plans against the nefarious Indian plans.

Most Pakistan fans would be happy to just shake hands, apologise, and change the bowler.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Run to shake their hands

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Keep pulling out against him . Also I have a feeling, this guy is going to brick it against India. Some humongous 6’s coming up. Pandya- Dube can cause carnage if they end up reading his bowling lmao.

Tends to be what happens with any promising Pakistani bowlers. Jadu happens to them

 

[Sachin fan]

A bowler pausing for so long disrupts the stance and flow of a batsman. I think Indian batter's should consistently pull out everytime he pause. That will delay the game and umpire will force captain to take him out of attack.

The game is already stocked up for the batsmen. They are allowed to reverse and switch hit and what not. I see no issues with bowlers innovating and trying their own thing.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Most Pakistan fans would be happy to just shake hands, apologise, and change the bowler.

 

[deltexas]

So indians are already trying to find an excuse... Good to see a panic like this... Keep doing bhangra

No excuse LOL ! Ind is a way better team and if Pak wins, it will be yuuuuuge upset ! Panic with Usman , again LOL ! Irrespective of his action , he is a very mediocre bowler and once the novelty wears off , he will be handled easily.

 

[Sachin fan]

Lol hahaha Indians have already started crying.
Usman tariq has already won by making these rondhu Indians cry.
Keep it up Usman tariq.

Discussing an interesting or different action is not crying. That's exactly what cricket fans and cricket media is for. You have some weird notions of crying.

 

[deltexas]

How will they make the next generation of baby batters then? Nasal yaho khatam ho jaye gi.

In the SC, Ind and SL pull out game is the best followed by Pak and Ban LOL ! Shows in their pop numbers I guess ! But Ban was a disappointment this WC with their pull game LOL !

 

[Major]

Discussing an interesting or different action is not crying. That's exactly what cricket fans and cricket media is for. You have some weird notions of crying.

There are two issues that i have with india media here.

First he isnt out best spinner. Our best spinner is Abrar. Usman is getting too much hype just because of the way he releases the ball. They are going on and on about this guy and even went to the extent that he is a mystery spinner which he is not. Our second best spinner is Ayub. For me Tariq comes in as 3rd.

I believe against a side that plays good spin he can get spanked for boundaries.

Second issue is, indian media first called him a chucker. Than it came to light he got reported and cleared twice and people like Anil Chaudry and Ashwin defended him saying he doesnt chuck. Still after that there are some people calling it chucking or calling his action illegal just because they dont personally like it. One example is gavaskar.

 

[Smbhayi]

A bowler pausing for so long disrupts the stance and flow of a batsman. I think Indian batter's should consistently pull out everytime he pause. That will delay the game and umpire will force captain to take him out of attack.

What about batsmen switching hands or move around the crease? Doesn't that disrupt the bowler?

 

[Deewana Mastana]

If India objects to Usman Tariq's bowling, Pakistan should simply remind them that objection noted and we'll file it right next to 'Rohit's 2019 WC semis review' and 'Bumrah's no-ball in 2017 CT final' somewhere in the 'too painful to revisit' drawer.

His action's been cleared by ICC, Hawkeye, and three ex-spinners. Your only remaining appeal is to the Court of Public Opinion, currently presided over by Virender Sehwag's Twitter account.

 

[Rajdeep]

What about batsmen switching hands or move around the crease? Doesn't that disrupt the bowler?

That is fine because batters only get one chance.

 

[jnaveen1980]

That is fine because batters only get one chance.

If anything it is risky for batsmen

 

[SpiritOf1903]

I doubt Indian players would behave this way. And I actually doubt on field umpire would be brave enough to call someone for chucking.

Match will be played as normal.

They were literally laughing in the face of Pakistanis by snubbing their handshakes
Why did Pakistan make it a negotiation tactic...it's baffling. This would be a very Indian thing to do ...

 

[Devadwal]

Learn the cricket rules.
If indian batter pulls out continuesly, than it will be the indian side who will be penalized for delaying the game.

The pause is part of his action, so its allowed. If he doesnt pause or pauses longer than its a bigger issue. Your own umpire have said this

Hahahaha , this idiots don't know if a team don't Bowl full 20 overs in allotted time, they will be penalized for slow over rate not batting side.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

If they object to Usman, we should object to Bhumrah, Axsar and Varun.

 

[Devadwal]

If India objects to Usman Tariq's bowling, Pakistan should simply remind them that objection noted and we'll file it right next to 'Rohit's 2019 WC semis review' and 'Bumrah's no-ball in 2017 CT final' somewhere in the 'too painful to revisit' drawer.

His action's been cleared by ICC, Hawkeye, and three ex-spinners. Your only remaining appeal is to the Court of Public Opinion, currently presided over by Virender Sehwag's Twitter account.

Ye kab hua ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

"No issues with pause in Usman Tariq's bowling action. As long as his arm is above horizontal, it's fair," said Aaron Finch

 

[Major]

Hahahaha , this idiots don't know if a team don't Bowl full 20 overs in allotted time, they will be penalized for slow over rate not batting side.

U really do need to educate yourself about the rules

 

[hur rizvi]

If they object to Usman, we should object to Bhumrah, Axsar and Varun.

That would be fair. I won’t count Varun though in this list

 

[globetrotter]

Usman using all delaying tactics while bowling a delivery..... he is getting all the time to watch batter's movement which is unacceptable. Usman is a checker, ICC must investigate his action.

Usman is taking such a long time, in that time batsmen can take a single

 

[globetrotter]

If they object to Usman, we should object to Bhumrah, Axsar and Varun.

Non of the Indian bowler using delaying tactics as used by Usman

 

[DRsohail]

A bowler pausing for so long disrupts the stance and flow of a batsman. I think Indian batter's should consistently pull out everytime he pause. That will delay the game and umpire will force captain to take him out of attack.

Hahha ok sir this was too much.