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Mens team probably generates 100 times the revenue that the women's team does. In fact it is very likely that the women's teams contracts are being partially funded by money generated from the mens game. This happens in every sport. It's not sexism, it's simple business.
White knight here doesnt understand economics..
Womens cricket in pakistan most likely doesnt even generate a profit, and is being subsidized by the revenue made by the mens team...
Simple business..
Hardly anyone watches womens cricket.
That's not what he is saying.
Basically his point is if Bismah gets a B contract even though she is captain, why is Sarfraz given an A contract?
Sarfraz doesn't deserve an A contract based on performance.
Hes still the mens team captain and hasnt been dropped.
What has pakistans womens team done?
Nothing.. infact they lose every game that i scroll through on cricinfo.
He plays all 3 formats as of now.
Like i said how many people actually watch the pakistan womens team play?
Another thing is how hard is it to be men cricket captain in Pakistan? How hard one has to work? I would give an A grade contract just for that? How much abuse Sarfaraz has to take compare to women team captain in Pakistan?
OP is a Real Man, all the others opposing him are insecure incels who are afraid of Women.
We need more and more men like OP raising their voice against the rampant partiachy in Pakistan.
People misunderstanding the question and rushing to justify low paychecks for females.
OPs question is that if a non performing captain can occupy an A contract in male cricket purely because he is the captain then why should a non performing female captain not he awarded the same.OP is not talking about the money that an A contract has for males and females.It is the status/privilege that is in question.
Well i guess Bisma Maroof does not have the support of a media lobby that Sarfaraz Ahmad probably has.I have no idea other than that as to why Sarfaraz was awarded an A contract when he doesnt even deserve a C contract based on performance.
The reason is still the same. It is not feasible to pay a women's cricketer as much as a men's because they don't generate the same amount of money.
On a side note, I don't know why Sarfraz was given an A contract.
Mens team probably generates 100 times the revenue that the women's team does. In fact it is very likely that the women's teams contracts are being partially funded by money generated from the mens game. This happens in every sport. It's not sexism, it's simple business.
Lmao.So now PCB is also granting contracts based on the amount of abuse given by the people?No wonder Sarfaraz was removed from the contract list after the 2017 Champions Trophy.
Oh wait..
Also abuse comes in many forms.It is also abuse to tell someone that what they do for a living sucks,is below par,is something nobody gives a **** about and they are better off in the kitchen.And i can assure you that this sort of abuse is faced by the women cricketers everyday as is apparent by this very thread and if it does not convince you,you can go to their social media profiles and read the comments below.
Mate you are getting it all wrong, I am only talking about the abuse you get if you lose! other forms of abuse is not relevant and should just not happen or should be reported. The abuse you get for losing determines how pressurized your job is and I dont know how much life experience you have but more you explore the corporate world the more you will realize all highly paid jobs are pressurized.
Feminists and men who deliberately put down other men to get into the good books of the opposite sex are out in full force again. Not everything on the planet is a conspiracy against women
The reason is still the same. It is not feasible to pay a women's cricketer as much as a men's because they don't generate the same amount of money.
On a side note, I don't know why Sarfraz was given an A contract.
Mens team probably generates 100 times the revenue that the women's team does. In fact it is very likely that the women's teams contracts are being partially funded by money generated from the mens game. This happens in every sport. It's not sexism, it's simple business.
White knight here doesnt understand economics..
Womens cricket in pakistan most likely doesnt even generate a profit, and is being subsidized by the revenue made by the mens team...
Simple business..
Hardly anyone watches womens cricket.
Women don't deserve same payments as men in sports. It is because women sports generate less revenues.
It has nothing to do with sexism or misogyny.
Who cares about female sports anyway?
The quality is way below par when compared to men's sports. Why would anyone watch it?
Interestingly, women know it themselves. That's why they won't push for inclusion in the same leagues/tournaments/competitions as men. They know they can't compete.
When it comes to business leadership, government or any other social leadership role they want to be in the same room as men. But when it comes to sports, they are happy to have their little side competition alongside the men's competition so they can piggy back off of the interest generated by men's sports.
Women want privilege, not equality.
You do realise men's and women's contract structures are completely different? Category A contract for the women's team isn't the same as the men's team.
Do you even understand the question here? Do you and everyone whining and crying understand that there is a woman category A contract which is different from men category A contract?
If you ever want to see examples of small, insecure men whining, this thread is the biggest example. I think a lot of this happens when some men dont interact with women and develop an incel mentality
The question asked was - why is the woman captain not given a category A contract
Now instead of whining and crying if these insecure people had thought normally, they would understand the OP obviously meant the category A contract for WOMEN which is different from that of men
But they had to cry and show their insecurity. Well done. We are laughing at you. I never thought there were so many small minded insecure men here but this has exposed them big time
No I did not know about that in which case I was wrong, which I am willing to accept.
Chill out bro there's no girl here for you to try and win over with your white knighting. It's not common knowledge that the contracts are different for men and women. It wasn't specified in OP so most people would assume they are the same.
Nobody is insecure here and nobody cares if you are laughing at them.
Well its common sense right? Since as you said, women dont generate as much revenue, their contracts cant be same as men
Currently in category A there are - Sana Mir and Nida Dar
The captain Bismah Maroof was demoted to B despite being captain. Hence the question from OP
See you guys are so obsessed with women you think anyone who is talking about facts is white knighting. It's the opposite actually, YOU are the ones obsessed with women, So obsessed your brain shuts down when the topic even comes. Look at the example in this thread
I dont need to white knight or impress anyone as I am a secure male. i dont whine and cry about things or am obsessed with anything women. I dont care if they get more or less than me. But you obviously do. But of course you guys are also master of projection and think its everyone else obsessed.
If you ever want to see examples of small, insecure men whining, this thread is the biggest example. I think a lot of this happens when some men dont interact with women and develop an incel mentality
The question asked was - why is the woman captain not given a category A contract
Now instead of whining and crying if these insecure people had thought normally, they would understand the OP obviously meant the category A contract for WOMEN which is different from that of men
But they had to cry and show their insecurity. Well done. We are laughing at you. I never thought there were so many small minded insecure men here but this has exposed them big time
So where did the OP say that Bismah Maroof should be paid the equal amount of salary as Sarfaraz Ahmed.The category(A) of the central contract is the OP's question.Equal pay is not the topic of the thread.Equal category is,as far as my understanding goes.
Have tried changing the title multiple times, but it doesn't seem to help
Please try to understand the question before commenting!
White knight here doesnt understand economics..
Womens cricket in pakistan most likely doesnt even generate a profit, and is being subsidized by the revenue made by the mens team...
Simple business..
Hardly anyone watches womens cricket.
Because Pakistan is not a feminist country, thankfully. The women don't get paid as much as the men for the same reasons that the blind cricketers and youth teams do not get paid as much as the men: They do not generate the same revenue and play a substandard version of the sport.
OP is talking about categories, not the amount they're getting paid.
It has absolutely nothing to do with feminism.
Have tried changing the title multiple times, but it doesn't seem to help
Please try to understand the question before commenting!
Yes, the question is weirdly worded and I don't see what Sarfaraz has to do with any of this. He's won us the Champions Trophy, is a test captain as well as the limited overs captain and our first-choice wicket-keeper. He deserves the 'A' contract.
If OP thinks Bismah should or shouldn't be getting 'x' contract, he should make it about her personal performance as a player and as a captain and not drag Sarfaraz into this.
Do you even understand the question here? Do you and everyone whining and crying understand that there is a woman category A contract which is different from men category A contract?
That would mean it's based on the amount of work a player is doing. I can accept that. If so, Bismah relative to her peers also deserves category A. She is captaining the side and is an all-rounder.
Unfortunately, PCB didn't use logic while handing out contracts. Even putting aside Bismah, this is seen by Yasir Shah getting an A contract when he only plays one format.
A PCB spokesman said that the contracts were offered purely on basis of performances and Bismah’s performance wasn’t up to par. “Since our women cricket structure sees captains not appointed for a long period and the captaincy changes series to series, every player has to perform to get a higher category contract,” said the spokesman.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1490395
I think it related to the structure of women national team but I personally think performance based criteria should be for men captain as well.
Does Sarfaraz even deserve a place in squad anymore?
Forget contract
This thread has exposed a lot of petty, insecure so called men. They didnt even understand what was being discussed and came whining and crying. Have to laugh at these people. The funniest thing was the rant about feminism, equality and what not. Clearly shows what these guys are losing their sleep over
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I can’t seem to recall the discussion you are referring to. It would help if you tag me in the relevant thread.
Who cares about female sports anyway?
The quality is way below par when compared to men's sports. Why would anyone watch it?
Interestingly, women know it themselves. That's why they won't push for inclusion in the same leagues/tournaments/competitions as men. They know they can't compete.
When it comes to business leadership, government or any other social leadership role they want to be in the same room as men. But when it comes to sports, they are happy to have their little side competition alongside the men's competition so they can piggy back off of the interest generated by men's sports.
Women want privilege, not equality.
I’ll have to search as well
Forget it, it was related to continuous support for Sarfraz from PCB, even after the racial ban (so, should be sometimes in February- that time I used to post lot...) - my hunch was that Sarfraz is backed by PCB from a political cause (of keeping Karachi happy); your hunch was that Mani & PCB are too dumb & spineless to take tough call - I did accept that time, but now this guy Wasim Khan (his office) also has given him Cat-A central contract, which should allow Sarfraz keeping his spot in PAK XI with his armband, may be even for 3 formats, till next T20 WC !!!!!! Wasim can’t be that dumb - there has to be something behind screen.