If Younis Khan doesn't score today then it should be end of the line for him

[Red Devil]

Ha! so much for 'UAE Khan' [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

Am struggling to dissect the reasoning behind the logic of some posters, it's like once they give into a specific line of thinking there is no turning back. Bit like the fans who still criticise Roman Reigns and John Cena just for the sake of it

If he can score a hundred tomorrow, he'll become the only player in the history of Test cricket to have scored a hundred in 11 different countries.

Not a bad effort by 'UAE Khan'

 

[MRSN]

It seems like people have different definitions for levels of greatness, which is causing confusion.

Pakistan have won 12 test matches in Australia, England, New Zealand, South Africa and West Indies since YK made his debut. Younis wasn't selected for five of them. Out of the remaining 7, YK made a significant contribution in 5 of those.

YK has been a better travellers BUT there is no doubt that the YK post 2010 has not been a convincing batsman overseas due to his copying style of Misbah i.e negotiating the fast bowlers and scoring majority of runs against spinners on UAE pitches.

YK is not an ATG but he is also not a Misbah. He is way better batsman than Misbah and there should be no confusion but I would love the present YK to say good bye as well. His reflexes aren't good enough to last long against good swing.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Younis is no ATG. He has missed his shot at that status. Needed to be consistent in three overseas tours.

However he is no FTB either. A damn good player by our standards.

He's definitely an FTB, although a great one. He's never played a standout knock against consistent lateral movement.

 

[Stallion__]

He's definitely an FTB, although a great one. He's never played a standout knock against consistent lateral movement.

How often has he faced such conditions?

How many such innings have been played in last 10 years?

How many such innings have been played by other Pakistani greats?

 

[GullyCricketFlop]

He isn't going anywhere.Will continue after reaching the 10K mark.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

How often has he faced such conditions?

How many such innings have been played in last 10 years?

How many such innings have been played by other Pakistani greats?

He's had his fair chances. Two games at NZ, Edgbaston 1st innings with overcast, Brisbane under lights 1st innings. I'm not talking extreme conditions where batsmen struggle to put bat on ball.

Pointless questions which won't prove or disprove the fact he's an FTB. Unless you can name knocks he's played against consistent lateral movement.

He's being called an ATG therefore has to be compared to them. His status as a Pakistani great is not in question.

Younis has always been technically flawed and has survived conditions where there's early movement for 20 overs or so through grit and determination but where technical application for 40-50 overs is required, he's been consistently found out.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

He's had his fair chances. Two games at NZ, Edgbaston 1st innings with overcast, Brisbane under lights 1st innings. I'm not talking extreme conditions where batsmen struggle to put bat on ball.

Pointless questions which won't prove or disprove the fact he's an FTB. Unless you can name knocks he's played against consistent lateral movement.

He's being called an ATG therefore has to be compared to them. His status as a Pakistani great is not in question.

Younis has always been technically flawed and has survived conditions where there's early movement for 20 overs or so through grit and determination but where technical application for 40-50 overs is required, he's been consistently found out.

Recent examples

 

[Stallion__]

He's had his fair chances. Two games at NZ, Edgbaston 1st innings with overcast, Brisbane under lights 1st innings.

At the age of 40+? Not many would have bet in his favour.

Pointless questions which won't prove or disprove the fact he's an FTB. Unless you can name knocks he's played against consistent lateral movement.

He's being called an ATG therefore has to be compared to them. His status as a Pakistani great is not in question.

I explicitly stated that he is no ATG. If you are no ATG doesn't mean you are FTB.

Younis has always been technically flawed and has survived conditions where there's early movement for 20 overs or so through grit and determination

That's what is important. A batsman's job is to find a way to survive and score runs. Irrelevant if he scores that with a textbook technique or a tailender technique.

 

[Seamer]

He should stay for 2-3 more series my squad for next series with a few changes in it:

1. Azhar Ali
2. Sami Aslam
3. Umar Akmal
4. Younis Khan
5. Babar Azam
6. Asad Shafiq
7. Sarfaraz
8. Yasir Shah
9. Amir
10. Wahab Riaz
11. Mir Hamza

12. Hassan Ali
13. Asghar
14. Usman Salahuddin
15. Fakhar Zaman
16. Tabish Khan

 

[Chief Destroyer]

At the age of 40+? Not many would have bet in his favour.



I explicitly stated that he is no ATG. If you are no ATG doesn't mean you are FTB.




That's what is important. A batsman's job is to find a way to survive and score runs. Irrelevant if he scores that with a textbook technique or a tailender technique.

Not many would bet in his favour regardless of age.

You're an FTB when you struggle to survive against swing/seam for more than a session. Don't confuse it with the well accepted fact that he's played many innings of substance under pressure but they have not been in testing conditions.

Textbook technique was never mentioned, technical application was. When your technique is so prone to error, grit and determination aren't enough to survive long periods in testing conditions.

 

[The_KING]

Tough day for his haters. Insha'Allah he complete his century tomorrow.

 

[omer28]

younis khan is the greatest test batsman pakistan has ever produce . He has been out of form lately but he is a true match winner . If it hadnt been for him pakistan would have lost in uae as well . It should have been quite evident to any one who had focused on the " pakistan ve west indiees" series in uae . Pakistan almost lost the first match to the west indiees on home soil and eventually the third test ( west indiees is the worst test team now along with bangladesh) and pakistan was then the 2nd ranked team playing at hom .. why ? younis had been out of form . yasir shahs cant win you matches in the uae as well let alone australia if they arent backed by double hundreds by younis which gives them 400 odd runs to defend in the last innings

 

[omer28]

YK has been a better travellers BUT there is no doubt that the YK post 2010 has not been a convincing batsman overseas due to his copying style of Misbah i.e negotiating the fast bowlers and scoring majority of runs against spinners on UAE pitches.

YK is not an ATG but he is also not a Misbah. He is way better batsman than Misbah and there should be no confusion but I would love the present YK to say good bye as well. His reflexes aren't good enough to last long against good swing.

there should be no comparison between younis and misbah . they are from a different leage ...misbah being a ver average batsman and younis khan a match winner

 

[omer28]

He's definitely an FTB, although a great one. He's never played a standout knock against consistent lateral movement.

has there been much lateral movement on any of the pitches in australia ? almost all the batsman in the world would struggle against consistent lateral movement - See more at: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...e-line-for-him&p=9037468&posted=1#post9037468

 

[pakpukhtun]

These younis haters dont have any legit points. younis is an ATG and the best test bat pakistan has ever produced.

 

[omer28]

there is only one way that pakistan can save this test now if younis scores a double hundred

 

[Hasan123]

Inshallah he gets a century and retires on a high. Same with Misbah

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

I've been watching Pak play test cricket since about 1991-1992.

I can say that I've never seen a better test batsman than YK. That includes favorites like Anwar and Moyo.

PS. sorry but imo Inzi is not as good as either YK or Anwar. Maybe he's like 5-6th. But he went missing overseas.

 

[Ellipsism]

Tough day for his haters. Insha'Allah he complete his century tomorrow.

No one is hating on Younus for the sake of hating, it's no secret that he along with Misbah have been the weak-link in the team since NZ.

 

[omer28]

this team is so special that even a 200 from younis might not be enough to save this test

 

[omer28]

I've been watching Pak play test cricket since about 1991-1992.

I can say that I've never seen a better test batsman than YK. That includes favorites like Anwar and Moyo.

PS. sorry but imo Inzi is not as good as either YK or Anwar. Maybe he's like 5-6th. But he went missing overseas.

inzamam was a very good player in odis though