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Imad Wasim announces second marriage with Nyla Raja two months after divorce (Update @ post#45)

I understand ,my point is what being done to implement these laws that could maybe benefit women, blatant misuse of system is being done and the scholars and rulers don’t care, so if the idea is what to until end of life for judgment that is really unjustified.

The lying and deceit is pretty obvious in this entire scenario.. and he will get away with it , which is pretty obvious.
Also will note, if someone is found cheating in a marriage… The punishment, requires stones… Hope you catch the drift. And this is for full blown adultery while married. By no way do you have to wait till the day of judgement if you truly live under Islamic rule.

You need evidence though, otherwise anyone can blame an innocent without proof.

But again… are the judges awake or asleep to carry out what’s in Islam?
 
And you can look up the punishment of cheating in Islam while married… idk if mods will edit me out.. and if someone divorces their wife with kids for silly reasons, Allah will hold them accountable.

Bet the guy is counting on all this "in the afterlife", "on judgement day" bakwaas to get away scot free for now and for the foreseeable.
 
Bet the guy is counting on all this "in the afterlife", "on judgement day" bakwaas to get away scot free for now and for the foreseeable.
read the post directly above yours… I spelled out pretty explicitly what the punishment for cheating in a marriage is in this life.

Yall seem to think in Islam you can do whatever you want in this life and just rack up whatever mischief and nothing happens till the day of judgement

There’s punishments for every crime you can think of.
 
Bet the guy is counting on all this "in the afterlife", "on judgement day" bakwaas to get away scot free for now and for the foreseeable.

Its not bakwas dear. Please be respectful.

As a Sanatani, which means i am partially moslem too, i remain open minded about all possibilities in the afterlife and try to ensure my actions are not antagonistic to any religion, if if it is one i might not be actively following.
 
read the post directly above yours… I spelled out pretty explicitly what the punishment for cheating in a marriage is in this life.

Yall seem to think in Islam you can do whatever you want in this life and just rack up whatever mischief and nothing happens till the day of judgement

There’s punishments for every crime you can think of.

He might be kidding with you because in Hinduism the worst punishment is delivered in the form of karma receipts which are sometimes even inherited.
 
The second lady only comes in when Man allows it
I think major has explained the situation well..cheating culture is becoming more rife and rich men can hide it via marriage and stuff.

Feel sorry for the women who have to endure this hardship
 
Ethical non-monogamy is always a better option than cheating and hopefully one day most religions will evolve to make it legal. This way many families can be saved from breaking.
 
Who holds him accountable though? I agree let me say its not Islamic, who will hold him accountable.. it’s pretty obvious so many men have come out to support on social media everyone is using the ability to marry multiple women..​
Reality check...

Imran Khan is sick in Jail in Pakistan and can't get medical care, can't meet his family and can't meet his lawyers. WWII and Indian/Pakistani militaries don't have this sort of oppression and brutality during actual war.

"Islamic Scholars of Pakistan" by and large have not said a uttered a single statement about this @Bewal Express

That's how much of Islam, Pakistan has! @Suleiman

You have people right here on PakPassion not only justifying but relishing and enjoying this sort of treatment. Those who are chastising and condemning Imad Wasim's "supposed" shenanigans are silent about Imran Khan losing his eyesight, in fact enjoying it deep down.

That's the standard of Islam of some people of Pakistan! Outrage over tabloid tattletale but relish over actual butchery of Justice and oppression.

Heck! Even Wasim and Waqar who Imran Khan picked up from the streets and enabled their journey to stardom have made token statement and only after other world players made statements.

This is the reality of Islam of people of Pakistan!


Do you think that law and order in Pakistan has the capacity to worry about Imad Wasim and his "supposed" shenanigans?

Imran Khan may die due to lack of treatment and Generals of Pakistan Army may apparently get away with it but Justice will be served in this world, let alone in the hereafter.

We don't know the facts of Imad Wasim case (from both sides) but whoever is wrong and oppressive will get their justice in this world whether you see it or not and whoever is innocent will be consoled.

 
I think major has explained the situation well..cheating culture is becoming more rife and rich men can hide it via marriage and stuff.

Feel sorry for the women who have to endure this hardship
Huh? Cheating and infidelity is not some western construct or elite culture. Happens probably in every section of the society.

Just that it’s a celebrity it sticks out: not that it makes it better or worse. As a celebrity probably has more access to these things, that’s about it.
 
Huh? Cheating and infidelity is not some western construct or elite culture. Happens probably in every section of the society.

Just that it’s a celebrity it sticks out: not that it makes it better or worse. As a celebrity probably has more access to these things, that’s about it.
It was less common in Pakistan but becoming more common now. In Pakistan it can sometimes become covered up and legitimised because they can legally marry and become a second spouse, but often that relationship also starts off with infidelity. When it is then given the tag of second wife, people can blame the first woman for not accepting it and rather than being victim she becomes perpreator.
 
Indians here whose posts seem to suggest they are scratching their heads over how this could happen and how Imad is getting away with it: how is this any different to how men cheat and get away with it or (or women cheat and get away with it) in India, or any other country? We all still continue to use the commonwealth laws for most such issues.

If for whatever reason you think Pakistan's laws are significantly different from yours, you are mistaken. I think this has been said before multiple times here. Pakistan DOES NOT HAVE SHARIA LAW.

Pakistani men are as much prone to cheating as the guy from the next country. And times are changing. In the past, women will put up with it and the guy would simply have 2, 3, 4 wives but now Pakistani women are not tolerating this nonsense.
 
Indians here whose posts seem to suggest they are scratching their heads over how this could happen and how Imad is getting away with it: how is this any different to how men cheat and get away with it or (or women cheat and get away with it) in India, or any other country? We all still continue to use the commonwealth laws for most such issues.

If for whatever reason you think Pakistan's laws are significantly different from yours, you are mistaken. I think this has been said before multiple times here. Pakistan DOES NOT HAVE SHARIA LAW.

Pakistani men are as much prone to cheating as the guy from the next country. And times are changing. In the past, women will put up with it and the guy would simply have 2, 3, 4 wives but now Pakistani women are not tolerating this nonsense.
Indians like me are questioning posters quoting Islamic laws here.. my opinion is they are not being implemented and if anything religious scholars are on overdrive in South Asia.
 
Indians like me are questioning posters quoting Islamic laws here.. my opinion is they are not being implemented and if anything religious scholars are on overdrive in South Asia.
they re mostly kids who dont live in pakistan or are not fully aware of ground realities. a vast chunk of pakistan legal code is still the legacy british commonwealth code with some modifications from the islamic jurisprudence but thats not to say all sharia laws are enforced. even if they could in this case, how can you prove the guy committed adultery or cheated? islamic law requires witnesses for zina. evidence has to be fool proof. from what i read here, and i am no expert in this case, it seem to be all circumstantial. Maybe he just fell in love with this other woman and decided to dump his first wife.

The question you guys should be asking is: are the rights of the first wife protected? Was she paid the haq mehr? will she get child support? etc, etc.
 
they re mostly kids who dont live in pakistan or are not fully aware of ground realities. a vast chunk of pakistan legal code is still the legacy british commonwealth code with some modifications from the islamic jurisprudence but thats not to say all sharia laws are enforced. even if they could in this case, how can you prove the guy committed adultery or cheated? islamic law requires witnesses for zina. evidence has to be fool proof. from what i read here, and i am no expert in this case, it seem to be all circumstantial. Maybe he just fell in love with this other woman and decided to dump his first wife.

The question you guys should be asking is: are the rights of the first wife protected? Was she paid the haq mehr? will she get child support? etc, etc.
I thought a lot of such data was confidential ..
 
How much he ll provide in alimony or return the mehr etc

Maybe, I dont know much about how that works, south asian countries are not exactly well known for such privacy laws. In fact even in the west, when it comes to celebrities these details go public immediately.

I think the guy should make this information public to protect his image anyway, if he is doing the right thing and the ex is just bitter and ragging his name through the mud. If not, well then he is just a scum bag.
 
Maybe, I dont know much about how that works, south asian countries are not exactly well known for such privacy laws. In fact even in the west, when it comes to celebrities these details go public immediately.

I think the guy should make this information public to protect his image anyway, if he is doing the right thing and the ex is just bitter and ragging his name through the mud. If not, well then he is just a scum bag.
She was with child when he cheated on her and married the influencer .. ex or any human will be bitter also because she called it and they denied it 6-7 months ago.
 
She was with child when he cheated on her and married the influencer .. ex or any human will be bitter also because she called it and they denied it 6-7 months ago.
I find it despicable. Nonetheless this crap happens around the world and a lot of men (and women) get away with it

I know a certain guy who did it all, denied it, continues to deny it when the porn actress it involved is admitting to it - and we elected him as the President, so there is that too.
 
The first wife has gone a bit crazy now, and will come out looking like a fool i believe.

From the screenshots she has released, the issue seems to be something else and not about the cheating that Imad did.

Seems like they had a huge falling out, where the wife screwed up.
 
I find it despicable. Nonetheless this crap happens around the world and a lot of men (and women) get away with it

I know a certain guy who did it all, denied it, continues to deny it when the porn actress it involved is admitting to it - and we elected him as the President, so there is that too.

Stormy Daniels was hearthrob of many young boys back in the day.
 
The first wife has gone a bit crazy now, and will come out looking like a fool i believe.

From the screenshots she has released, the issue seems to be something else and not about the cheating that Imad did.

Seems like they had a huge falling out, where the wife screwed up.

I agree.
She's resorting to psychpana and that might just become Immy's defence.

Btw, is it very common for boys with nickname Immy to be flamboyant.
 
The first wife has gone a bit crazy now, and will come out looking like a fool i believe.

From the screenshots she has released, the issue seems to be something else and not about the cheating that Imad did.

Seems like they had a huge falling out, where the wife screwed up.

Yes she should forget and concentrate on her kids , like Sania Mirza .

Imo it’s unfair to criticise the wife , the guy cheated on her , didn’t arrive to see the birth of his child and also demanded an abortion . She forgave him , only for him to marry some older woman . No wonder she’s angry lol ,.

Is she British ? If so she can take him to court , making him pay a good amount monthly . She should also marry again . Let’s how strong he is when his kids are calling someone else daddy . Although this clown might not care
 
I don't condone cheating in any shape or form by either husband or wife.

But i do in principle feel that if two people are just not getting along inspite of best efforts to make a marriage work then they should do the right thing and seperate. I know people will have mixed opinions i.e. no you stick around and do the right thing by your kids and don't break their home, be in an unhappy marriage for the sake of the kids but don't put the tag of a broken home on them.

My elder brother and wife are in a very unhappy marriage and its gotten to the point where they don't sleep in the same room, dont sit on the same table for lunch, dinner but both have been pressurized by parents from both sides of the family to compromise, stick together for the kids. The other dark reality of living in the west is the price of divorce.

Everytime i see them, go to their house and see their living situation i get severely depressed, suffocated and can't wait to get out and leave.

Based on the Imad and his wife situation, we only know her side of the story and the entire aurat gang has jumped to support her but no one is asking her what went wrong? Why did he fall out of love with you? Just because a husband and wife have kids but if they are not getting along is not a good excuse to remain together without genuine love and regard for each other.
 
I don't condone cheating in any shape or form by either husband or wife.

But i do in principle feel that if two people are just not getting along inspite of best efforts to make a marriage work then they should do the right thing and seperate. I know people will have mixed opinions i.e. no you stick around and do the right thing by your kids and don't break their home, be in an unhappy marriage for the sake of the kids but don't put the tag of a broken home on them.

My elder brother and wife are in a very unhappy marriage and its gotten to the point where they don't sleep in the same room, dont sit on the same table for lunch, dinner but both have been pressurized by parents from both sides of the family to compromise, stick together for the kids. The other dark reality of living in the west is the price of divorce.

Everytime i see them, go to their house and see their living situation i get severely depressed, suffocated and can't wait to get out and leave.

Based on the Imad and his wife situation, we only know her side of the story and the entire aurat gang has jumped to support her but no one is asking her what went wrong? Why did he fall out of love with you? Just because a husband and wife have kids but if they are not getting along is not a good excuse to remain together without genuine love and regard for each other.

It is a bit selfish to break it off and not think about kids. Because they suffer. You have to do wht you can for the sake of the children - or else dont have them.

I think your brother and his wife are doing the right thing.
 
I don't condone cheating in any shape or form by either husband or wife.

But i do in principle feel that if two people are just not getting along inspite of best efforts to make a marriage work then they should do the right thing and seperate. I know people will have mixed opinions i.e. no you stick around and do the right thing by your kids and don't break their home, be in an unhappy marriage for the sake of the kids but don't put the tag of a broken home on them.

My elder brother and wife are in a very unhappy marriage and its gotten to the point where they don't sleep in the same room, dont sit on the same table for lunch, dinner but both have been pressurized by parents from both sides of the family to compromise, stick together for the kids. The other dark reality of living in the west is the price of divorce.

Everytime i see them, go to their house and see their living situation i get severely depressed, suffocated and can't wait to get out and leave.

Based on the Imad and his wife situation, we only know her side of the story and the entire aurat gang has jumped to support her but no one is asking her what went wrong? Why did he fall out of love with you? Just because a husband and wife have kids but if they are not getting along is not a good excuse to remain together without genuine love and regard for each other.
Sad to hear of your bro’s marriage. Kids should never live in an unhappy household, they are better off living with separated but happy parents individually - but desi guys never understand this.

But this case is different. Imad Wasim was cheating on his wife when she was pregnant & didnt bother to see his newborn after he was born because he was busy with his new gf - that’s kinda lowest of the low. 3 kids in 6 years of marriage does not exactly show they had a troubled marital relationship, but him marrying within a month of divorce and especially when you have a newborn shows what a person he is!
 
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Sad to hear of your bro’s marriage. Kids should never live in an unhappy household, they are better off living with separated but happy parents individually - but desi guys never understand this.

But this case is different. Imad Wasim was cheating on his wife when she was pregnant & didnt bother to see his newborn after he was born because he was busy with his new gf - that’s kinda lowest of the low. 3 kids in 6 years of marriage does not exactly show they had a troubled marital relationship, but him marrying within a month of divorce and especially when you have a newborn shows what a person he is!

I won't be surprised if Imad was using his wife to just get the British passport. It takes 5-6 years to get a passport. The timeline of his marriage makes that a possibility. Also with regards to the kids, in Canada the government gives you money to help you deal with the costs of raising kids from $750 to $1,600 per month per child, not sure if Britain has similar laws.
 
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It is a bit selfish to break it off and not think about kids. Because they suffer. You have to do wht you can for the sake of the children - or else dont have them.

I think your brother and his wife are doing the right thing.
That’s absolutely not true. Bringing up kids in a toxic, dysfunctional environment should be absolutely a no no - parents who fight continuously but live together for the sake of children end up causing irreparable harm to the mental health of children & this ultimately manifests in children having several personality &/or mental issues. Time & again, research & mental health advocates have proven that kids are much better off having parents who live separately but happily then combative, unhappy parents together.

If you are in an unhealthy relationship, the best thing you can do for your kids is to end it amicably & co-parent with dignity, period. Off course - that does not mean you are not responsible anymore for your kids.
 
That’s absolutely not true. Bringing up kids in a toxic, dysfunctional environment should be absolutely a no no - parents who fight continuously but live together for the sake of children end up causing irreparable harm to the mental health of children & this ultimately manifests in children having several personality &/or mental issues. Time & again, research & mental health advocates have proven that kids are much better off having parents who live separately but happily then combative, unhappy parents together.

If you are in an unhealthy relationship, the best thing you can do for your kids is to end it amicably & co-parent with dignity, period. Off course - that does not mean you are not responsible anymore for your kids.
This sounds great when you read it on paper but the reality is different.

In Pakistan, typically it’s very hard to enforce good childcare laws post divorce. And if you live outside, the challenges are very different but of equally bad, sometimes worse outcome for the children.
 
This sounds great when you read it on paper but the reality is different.

In Pakistan, typically it’s very hard to enforce good childcare laws post divorce. And if you live outside, the challenges are very different but of equally bad, sometimes worse outcome for the children.
I agree, there is lack of laws around this in the subcontinent - but atleast in this generation we should move away from this practice of making parents live forcibly together for the sake of kids. My first cousin grew up in such a household experiencing things no child should ever witness - DV and stuff which his mother could never escape, to the extent that he has now a severe aversion to marriage (and he is still one of the sane ones to acknowledge & deny marrying another- oftentimes kids from dysfunctional families make shittier partners themselves). He tells us often that he wished his parents would separate and end the nonsense.
 
I agree, there is lack of laws around this in the subcontinent - but atleast in this generation we should move away from this practice of making parents live forcibly together for the sake of kids. My first cousin grew up in such a household experiencing things no child should ever witness - DV and stuff which his mother could never escape, to the extent that he has now a severe aversion to marriage (and he is still one of the sane ones to acknowledge & deny marrying another- oftentimes kids from dysfunctional families make shittier partners themselves). He tells us often that he wished his parents would separate and end the nonsense.
The middle class is fast disappearing in Pakistan. Most people live close to poverty line. I have those people in mind when I say this. The elites have their own world and they should be considered an exception and not the norm.

For a vast majority of women, divorce is not an option. They are not primed to take care of themselves and the children. They dont want to be a burden on their parents either. The men usually know this and abuse it. If the female knows she can support herself and have a better life that way instead of staying married to a deadbeat or cheating guy, I say go for it.

Bottomline is that we need to empower our sisters and daughters to be independent and strong and not rely on "fate". Most women in the west manage to find their own feet and raise their children. It is very tough to do so in Pakistan without significant help from others. Alimony/child support laws are barely enforced.
 
The middle class is fast disappearing in Pakistan. Most people live close to poverty line. I have those people in mind when I say this. The elites have their own world and they should be considered an exception and not the norm.

For a vast majority of women, divorce is not an option. They are not primed to take care of themselves and the children. They dont want to be a burden on their parents either. The men usually know this and abuse it. If the female knows she can support herself and have a better life that way instead of staying married to a deadbeat or cheating guy, I say go for it.

Bottomline is that we need to empower our sisters and daughters to be independent and strong and not rely on "fate". Most women in the west manage to find their own feet and raise their children. It is very tough to do so in Pakistan without significant help from others. Alimony/child support laws are barely enforced.
For us in India atleast in the urban centers and even in Tier-2 cities, it’s going the opposite way - divorces are increasing exponentially because women are increasingly independent & don’t suffer anymore & so you have bunch of incels crying online about Indian traditional values & marriage sanctity & DV/anti-dowry/child support & alimony laws. A good development but needs to penetrate more into the lower strata as you pointed out.
 
For us in India atleast in the urban centers and even in Tier-2 cities, it’s going the opposite way - divorces are increasing exponentially because women are increasingly independent & don’t suffer anymore & so you have bunch of incels crying online about Indian traditional values & marriage sanctity & DV/anti-dowry/child support & alimony laws. A good development but needs to penetrate more into the lower strata as you pointed out.
The divorce rates are rising in Pakistan as well because compared to the past, obviously the independence of women is showing upward trend and the taboo around divorced women is also starting to fade away, but that does not mean they are equipped to handle whats coming to them and the children fare any better under them. Ideally in this day and age, both husband and wife should work and provide the best for their children. Decent schooling in Pakistan is becoming ridiculously expensive now.
 
I briefly knew Sannia personally prior to her marriage and can say she was the most chill person ever. A good heart. She even learned Urdu for Imad and went out of her way. It’s sad to see what she and the kids are going through. I’m sure her coming out in public to share her pain is beyond her comfort zone and she’s naturally a private person.

Imad always had a weird vibe about him and if allegations are true then he should be ashamed of himself. Seems like he went through a phase and now suddenly wants a pure confident Pakistani woman. Either way, this matter could have been handled better.
 
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