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Imad Wasim or Mohammad Nawaz: Who should be preferred for a position in Pakistan's World Cup 2023 squad?

Imad Wasim or Mohammad Nawaz: Who should be preferred for a position in Pakistan's World Cup squad?


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Imad Wasim:

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Mohammad Nawaz

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So these are the records but Mohammad Nawaz's recent performances do not fill us with great confidence, but then Imad has not played for Pakistan in recent times.

How do we decide which of these goes to the World Cup?
 
It depends on what role you are discussing. Even if Imad was playing today, I doubt it makes a difference.

Imad should be in place of Nawaz. But can they test Abrar or it’s too late?
 
It's not about today but people seem to think nawaz is some muralitharan with the ball. They are both close with ball while imad is miles clear with bat.
 
Neither should be the 5th bowler though. Usama must play.

Strange selections continue.

Between the two yes Imad is better for his batting.
 
Imo both could play if we rest Iftikhar but really the competition is between Nawaz and Faheem for the number 8 slot. Nawaz probably got the go ahead because he performed with the bat against India in the last Asia cup. Sadly, it doesn't look like Imad's in the immediate plans but in PCT anything can happen
 
On pitches where the ball is skidding , Imad is a better choice with ball. His batting is also solid, but he has not played OD for a long long time. That is only drawback.
 
Imad is clearly superior to Nawaz and his batting skills also outshine Nawaz's.
 
Our current ODI team is doing very well and we should continue with this combination. The only change that can happen is in the middle order where Agha Salman can be replaced with either Saud Shakeel or maybe with someone like Tayyab Tahir or Asif Ali or may be Faheem Ashraf.
 
I just worry about Nawaz's temperament in big matches and when the going gets tough.

He just seems too nice a guy and seems to lack that killer instinct needed when you need it the most.

He's steady rather than spectacular and Pakistan cricket has been at its best when they have had those match-winning spinners in their side.
 
I just worry about Nawaz's temperament in big matches and when the going gets tough.

He just seems too nice a guy and seems to lack that killer instinct needed when you need it the most.

He's steady rather than spectacular and Pakistan cricket has been at its best when they have had those match-winning spinners in their side.
I agree. Personally I would play an extra batter in M Haris in place of Nawaz.

Iftikhar & Salman can jointly do the same steady job in bowling. Just imagine the impact of Haris at no.7.

Pakistan was effectively playing with 7 bowlers today, had India at 66-4 and yet India still scored 266. India or any top team would score 300, 8 times out of 10 on such a track. What Pakistan really needs is an extra batter.
 
I agree. Personally I would play an extra batter in M Haris in place of Nawaz.

Iftikhar & Salman can jointly do the same steady job in bowling. Just imagine the impact of Haris at no.7.

Pakistan was effectively playing with 7 bowlers today, had India at 66-4 and yet India still scored 266. India or any top team would score 300, 8 times out of 10 on such a track. What Pakistan really needs is an extra batter.
all they need to just replace salman agha with saud shakeel for proper middle order stability and replace nawaz with faheem to bring in some pace as a 4th fast bowler.
 
Both are good players but have different roles in the team.

Imad Wasim is better with the new ball, and as a bowler better suited to T20’s

Right now in our ODI setup, Shaheen Shah and Naseem are better options than Imad Wasim at opening the bowling.

In the middle overs, Nawaz is more effective as a bowler and can complete his 10 overs. Imad Wasim might bowl 5-7 overs.

Batting wise, Imad is a notch above. He’s more reliable with the bat and a good finisher.

Using that logic, I think that if we play 7 bowlers Imad Wasim would be better, but 6 bowlers Nawaz would be the better option.
 
I would rather have Imad based on his batting ability. Our main weakness right now is our lower middle order and i think he would bolster it well
 
I would rather have Imad based on his batting ability. Our main weakness right now is our lower middle order and i think he would bolster it well
Considering the kind of pitches we're encountering Imad Wasim could have been an ideal choice.

These tracks have moisture in it causing the ball to drift in the air and skid too which imad can utilize.

However I suspect that Babar has some reservations about Imad and I don't think he'll be included in the team.
 
Neither.. Pak should bring Abrar in the world cup squad and playing 11.. Abrar, being a mystery spinner, can be a crucial wicket taking option for Pakistan in middle overs
 
Neither.. Pak should bring Abrar in the world cup squad and playing 11.. Abrar, being a mystery spinner, can be a crucial wicket taking option for Pakistan in middle overs

Abrar could be a good option. But don't you think playing four specialist bowlers would make our batting too shalow?
 
Abrar could be a good option. But don't you think playing four specialist bowlers would make our batting too shalow?

Abrar also has some hitting abilities ..plus we already have enough batting ..the amount of runs Nawaz leaks in important matches and at crucial stages, is more damaging than few runs that he might make..in some matches… regularly we dont need batting till the last player.. Having a genuine wicket taking spinner in the middle overs is more important, who can give you regular break throughs..like we used to have Saeed Ajmal…SaeedAjmal didnot know how to bat but he was extremely important bowler…Abrar still has hitting ability…..we should have five genuine bowlers, rather than bits and pieces bowlers…
 
Imad Wasim is a powerplay bowler, and we have enough of those.
 
immad cant bowl outside the powerplays neither he get some spin so why not adding 1 more pacer like faheem as an all rounder.
 
Abrar also has some hitting abilities ..plus we already have enough batting ..the amount of runs Nawaz leaks in important matches and at crucial stages, is more damaging than few runs that he might make..in some matches… regularly we dont need batting till the last player.. Having a genuine wicket taking spinner in the middle overs is more important, who can give you regular break throughs..like we used to have Saeed Ajmal…SaeedAjmal didnot know how to bat but he was extremely important bowler…Abrar still has hitting ability…..we should have five genuine bowlers, rather than bits and pieces bowlers…
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Imad, Nawaz, and co aren’t the answer.

Pak is desperately missing a strike spin bowler. A strike spin bowler knows how to bowl long spells and we should bring a test spinner rather than a T20 spinner. As they know how to setup batters and have more attacking plans and lines.

Abrar could be a really good option. If not, Usama is also a decent option as he plays long form of the game regularly unlike Shadab.
 
immad cant bowl outside the powerplays neither he get some spin so why not adding 1 more pacer like faheem as an all rounder.
Bhai stop the obsession with faheem, he isn't an all rounder. Nor can he bowl. Either bring in ihsanullah or zaman Khan if you're going with 4 pacers or bring in imad/ Abrar.

He got smacked by Afghanistan as soon as the pitch loosened up, him bowling that exact same line and length is gonna give us 400+ scores when he face England.

Pakistan should go with 4 pacers and 2 spinners, and unfortunately as much as I like abrar, we need imad and shadab to strengthen the batting.
 
Personally we need to make these changes.

Usama out, Abrar in
Nawaz out, Imad Waseem in
Faheem out, Zaman Khan in


But since we are going with a 15 member squad only for World Cup, we have no choice but to remove Faheem altogether and Discard usama as well and replace nawaz for imad waseem.

I fear our chief selector is just going to remove saud and tayyab for no reason and keep almighty faheem.
 
Personally we need to make these changes.

Usama out, Abrar in
Nawaz out, Imad Waseem in
Faheem out, Zaman Khan in


But since we are going with a 15 member squad only for World Cup, we have no choice but to remove Faheem altogether and Discard usama as well and replace nawaz for imad waseem.

I fear our chief selector is just going to remove saud and tayyab for no reason and keep almighty faheem.
I'd also like waseem replaced for zaman or Ihsanullah
 
Abrar also has some hitting abilities ..plus we already have enough batting ..the amount of runs Nawaz leaks in important matches and at crucial stages, is more damaging than few runs that he might make..in some matches… regularly we dont need batting till the last player.. Having a genuine wicket taking spinner in the middle overs is more important, who can give you regular break throughs..like we used to have Saeed Ajmal…SaeedAjmal didnot know how to bat but he was extremely important bowler…Abrar still has hitting ability…..we should have five genuine bowlers, rather than bits and pieces bowlers…
I agree you can afford to go in with Abrar , Pakistan bowlers can bat a bit , so they do not need to look to weaken bowling to get in an another bits and pieces.
 
If Babar's reservation is the only reason Imad Wasim isn't included then I pity PCB & Inzy. Because looking at the performances of Nawaz & Usama there's absolutely zero reason to keep Imad out other than to satisfy the fragile ego of a confused skipper. Arthur needs to take initiatives here & force Babar if that's what is required. Shadab & Imad is the best possible & safest option they can go at current situations.
 
Imad Wasim is a must for the World Cup.

His batting has always been extremely decent and he had the intelligence to be able to adapt to the situation which is a must coming down lower in the order.

But the biggest improvement has been his bowling. Whereas in the past he was known for opening the bowling and getting that in drift, straighter ball, he's now no longer a one trick pony with the ball. He varies his pace more these days and can actually turn it away from the bat.

As far as I'm concerned he's the complete package these days and his mental strength as well as game awareness is exactly what this side is lacking.
 
I guess it depends on whether they want to continue with a settled group of players and not bring in someone from the 'outside'.

Mickey is a big fan of Imad and I'm pretty sure he would want him in the squad. Maybe the skipper or chief selector don't.
 
It's ironic seeing fans criticise selectors for "likes and dislikes" when they're doing exactly the same with their fantasy XIs which are not based on any numbers or statistical evidence.

Let's look at actual performances instead lazily throwing around opinions. I'll include records only against the teams participating in the World Cup.

Imad Wasim:

Bat Avg/SR - 44.55/111.08
Bowling Avg/ER - 54.82/4.98


Mohammad Nawaz:

Bat Avg/SR - 16.76/86.85
Bowling Avg/SR - 42.13/5.15


Now let's look at their records vs teams ranked 2-6.

Imad Wasim:

Bat Avg/SR - 50.69/113.03
Bowling Avg/SR - 62.09/5.18


Mohammad Nawaz:

Bat Avg/SR - 17.37/89.67
Bowling Avg/SR - 53.66/5.33

Conclusion
- Imad is the better batsman by a country mile whereas Nawaz is marginally the better bowler. Imad is capable of controlling the RR but possesses no wicket-taking threat whatsoever. He's an ideal T20 bowler but not penetrative enough for longer forms.

Nawaz's record is inflated by skittling weak teams. His batting is little better than a No.9.

Both are thoroughly mediocre all-rounders and it puzzles me why either have such loyal fanclubs.
 
It's ironic seeing fans criticise selectors for "likes and dislikes" when they're doing exactly the same with their fantasy XIs which are not based on any numbers or statistical evidence.

Let's look at actual performances instead lazily throwing around opinions. I'll include records only against the teams participating in the World Cup.

Imad Wasim:

Bat Avg/SR - 44.55/111.08
Bowling Avg/ER - 54.82/4.98


Mohammad Nawaz:

Bat Avg/SR - 16.76/86.85
Bowling Avg/SR - 42.13/5.15


Now let's look at their records vs teams ranked 2-6.

Imad Wasim:

Bat Avg/SR - 50.69/113.03
Bowling Avg/SR - 62.09/5.18


Mohammad Nawaz:

Bat Avg/SR - 17.37/89.67
Bowling Avg/SR - 53.66/5.33

Conclusion
- Imad is the better batsman by a country mile whereas Nawaz is marginally the better bowler. Imad is capable of controlling the RR but possesses no wicket-taking threat whatsoever. He's an ideal T20 bowler but not penetrative enough for longer forms.

Nawaz's record is inflated by skittling weak teams. His batting is little better than a No.9.

Both are thoroughly mediocre all-rounders and it puzzles me why either have such loyal fanclubs.
Tbh- neither is international quality and the worrying sign is how poor Shadab was with his control yesterday. Ind play spin well but Nawaz and Shadab were off the pace
 
With those stats, Imad should be considered as a batsman who can bowl part-time. And compete for a slot vs Agha and Ifti really.

Again, none of this addresses the real problem, which is the lack of penetrative spinner.

Imad, Nawaz, and Shadab are not the answer.

They should quickly include Abrar in the mix as a mystery spinner.
 
It's ironic seeing fans criticise selectors for "likes and dislikes" when they're doing exactly the same with their fantasy XIs which are not based on any numbers or statistical evidence.

Let's look at actual performances instead lazily throwing around opinions. I'll include records only against the teams participating in the World Cup.

Imad Wasim:

Bat Avg/SR - 44.55/111.08
Bowling Avg/ER - 54.82/4.98


Mohammad Nawaz:

Bat Avg/SR - 16.76/86.85
Bowling Avg/SR - 42.13/5.15


Now let's look at their records vs teams ranked 2-6.

Imad Wasim:

Bat Avg/SR - 50.69/113.03
Bowling Avg/SR - 62.09/5.18


Mohammad Nawaz:

Bat Avg/SR - 17.37/89.67
Bowling Avg/SR - 53.66/5.33

Conclusion
- Imad is the better batsman by a country mile whereas Nawaz is marginally the better bowler. Imad is capable of controlling the RR but possesses no wicket-taking threat whatsoever. He's an ideal T20 bowler but not penetrative enough for longer forms.

Nawaz's record is inflated by skittling weak teams. His batting is little better than a No.9.

Both are thoroughly mediocre all-rounders and it puzzles me why either have such loyal fanclubs.

The game of cricket is all about stats but if a selector just picked teams based on stats then they would be ignoring other facets of the game and won't be actually scouting the grounds and watching them play.

IMO Imad's bowling stats in ODI's is a little misleading. Having watched him bowl in games over the last twelve months or so I can see a difference... he's slowing it down and getting it turn more and varies his pace really well.

A sure shot for a the World Cup given it will be in India and his already proven quality with the bat.

A huge blame has to put on the shoulders of whoever selects the squads/teams for not giving him a go in recent odi's. So at the moment it's the stats (albeit old stats for ODI's) vs what people can see with their own eyes
 
The game of cricket is all about stats but if a selector just picked teams based on stats then they would be ignoring other facets of the game and won't be actually scouting the grounds and watching them play.

IMO Imad's bowling stats in ODI's is a little misleading. Having watched him bowl in games over the last twelve months or so I can see a difference... he's slowing it down and getting it turn more and varies his pace really well.

A sure shot for a the World Cup given it will be in India and his already proven quality with the bat.

A huge blame has to put on the shoulders of whoever selects the squads/teams for not giving him a go in recent odi's. So at the moment it's the stats (albeit old stats for ODI's) vs what people can see with their own eyes
Immy if we were going into a T20 World Cup, it'd be foolish to have a conversation without Imad.

However these recent performances I'm guessing are in T20 leagues ? When did Imad last play a domestic 50 over match ? His last ODI was 3 years ago.

Look everyone's entitled their opinions but he's not getting any younger, has a long-standing knee issue, and even in his prime his bowling numbers are as good as a part-timer.

None of these spinners we're naming are world beaters. Our strength is pace so we may as well just play 4 seamers in India unless we see a rank turner.
 
Immy if we were going into a T20 World Cup, it'd be foolish to have a conversation without Imad.

However these recent performances I'm guessing are in T20 leagues ? When did Imad last play a domestic 50 over match ? His last ODI was 3 years ago.

Look everyone's entitled their opinions but he's not getting any younger, has a long-standing knee issue, and even in his prime his bowling numbers are as good as a part-timer.

None of these spinners we're naming are world beaters. Our strength is pace so we may as well just play 4 seamers in India unless we see a rank turner.

I don't disagree.
I just go with what I've seen of him lately and agree it's been in T20's as opposed to 50 over games.

But if his bowling looks different in T20's then I don't see why it wouldn't be the same for a 50 over game.

I was not aware of his ongoing knee issues.

As a potential asset in the subcontinent, eith what he offers with both bat and ball, I don't understand why he wasn't given chances in 50 over cricket for Pakistan.
 
Imad Wasim is a must for the World Cup.

His batting has always been extremely decent and he had the intelligence to be able to adapt to the situation which is a must coming down lower in the order.

But the biggest improvement has been his bowling. Whereas in the past he was known for opening the bowling and getting that in drift, straighter ball, he's now no longer a one trick pony with the ball. He varies his pace more these days and can actually turn it away from the bat.

As far as I'm concerned he's the complete package these days and his mental strength as well as game awareness is exactly what this side is lacking.

If he is a bit more versatile with the ball these days and can bowl in the middle over, then he's a must.
 
Not great planning from the think-tank regarding the second spinner for the World Cup.

They've thrown all of their eggs in the Nawaz basket and that could prove to be problematic.
 
The overriding question is though - does Imad Wasim want to play 50-over cricket?

If the answer is no, then this is a non-starter.
 
The overriding question is though - does Imad Wasim want to play 50-over cricket?

If the answer is no, then this is a non-starter.
Who doesn’t want to play the 50 over World Cup?

I’m sure Shoaib Malik would return if asked to do so as well
 
Please Babar send Imad a text on WhatsApp:

Babar: “World Cup definitely?”

Imad: yes boy!
 
Things going for Imad - Not a choker like Nawaz, is a much superior batsman in the lower order .
Things going against Imad - dodgy knees and can he really bowl anything more than 4 overs now? No evidence for that
 
Things going for Imad - Not a choker like Nawaz, is a much superior batsman in the lower order .
Things going against Imad - dodgy knees and can he really bowl anything more than 4 overs now? No evidence for that
He’s a spinner

Why would he not be able to bowl more than 4 overs?
 
imad wasim seems to me an experienced guy and does not produce brain farts in critical situations. With aamir jamal Pakistan can go for the kill. With spinners no matter who they are there will always be ifs and buts. Both Aamir Jamal and Imad wasim should be there in the world cup squad. They are the best options available. If I were Inzi, I would simply replace muhammad nawaz and go with imam wasim and aamir jamal for the rest of the asia cup.

knowing inzi he is sleeping in his air conditioned room and enjoying easy money. Current bowling options will be exposed against good teams and then there will be protests against Inzi and coaching staff.

agha salman usama mir are no good replacements for imad wasim and aamir jamal
 
He’s a spinner

Why would he not be able to bowl more than 4 overs?
Doesn't he have fitness issues? Also he's a weird spinner in that he offers more control in the Powerplay than in the middle overs because he gets that in swing with the 2 new balls. You'll have to bowl him 5 overs upfront to get the best out of him. Pakistan , at this point in time, look much more comfortable bowling the 3 quicks up front and it will be difficult to accommodate Imad as a bowler. Nawaz is much better in the middle overs and even at the death.
 
Doesn't he have fitness issues? Also he's a weird spinner in that he offers more control in the Powerplay than in the middle overs because he gets that in swing with the 2 new balls. You'll have to bowl him 5 overs upfront to get the best out of him. Pakistan , at this point in time, look much more comfortable bowling the 3 quicks up front and it will be difficult to accommodate Imad as a bowler. Nawaz is much better in the middle overs and even at the death.
Who says he has fitness issues?
 
Selecting Imad Wasim instead of Usama Mir would have been a wise choice. Imad Wasim possesses a wealth of experience and can perform well on spin-friendly tracks.

he is also so handy with a bat down the order.
 
Pakistan needs a specialist spinner , where have the spinners disappeared ?

We have wasted too much time on bits and pieces spinners like Shadab, nawaz, Imad.

Pakistan needs four genuine bowlers, 3 fast bowlers (which we have)+ 1 spinner -- 5th blower role can be filled by bits and pieces players like Shadab/nawaz/Imad/Waseem/faheem.
 
Imad is good enough to play as a specialist lower middle order batsman. I have more confidence in him than Agha Salman.
 
Babar the robot does bro have the guts to put a surprise package for World Cup or to go away from an “established 11”

This is the same guy who won’t change a winning 11 even if a player was playing with one leg .

I will never forget the t20 cup when they would refuse to drop Hassan Ali all because of winning 11 nonesense. The best teams find a weak link and fix it !
 
I agree.

Allegedly, he has had beef with Babar in the past, and there are concerns about his fitness. But boy, would he be useful.

In a XI, with 4 pacers, would you drop Shadab or Salman for him? Or neither
Usama must be the first spinner to be on the team sheet. Can’t leave out our best spinner. If going with 4 pacers Shadab would have to sit out.

Imad comes in for Agha.
 
Obviouly Imad Wasim, he brings lot of experience with him.

He is a quality all rounder who can bowl economical overs along with some great power hitting abilities down the order.
 
Imad is the better option if you had to pick between the two. He’s not good by any means, he’s the least worst between the 2. Nawaz has experience of bottling it in big games. For Pakistan all rounders don’t mean big hitting batsmen that will win you the game with the bat. Nope, it’s suffice they bowl a few overs and score up to 20. I dislike the mediocrity, and the expected standard of all rounders.
 
Imad is much better and has vastlt experince and a very inteeligent guy , but in Pakistan cricket selectors/captain's ego and personal issues take priority over team's interest , so no chance Imad will make a come back, neither will Amir. Team also need a senior fast bolwer to guide other pacers when team is under pressure.
 
Is there a case for Imad in the Pakistan line up for the World Cup?
 
I'm not convinced that Nawaz is a better bowler than Imad.

Both are not wicket takers but atleast Imad keeps it nice and tight.

In terms of batting and fielding Imad is levels above Nawaz and a player like Imad is what our team needs right now. A player with intent.
 
Imad is more economical bowler and much better batter. More importantly Imad is mentally strong and perform better in big games.
 
Seriously imad would have been a top selection. He would have provided babar a chance to bowl him with the new ball for few overs too and his batting is even better than some of out top order batsmen
 
Nawaz in 2023:

13 Matches
Runs: 115
Average: 19.16
High Score: 39

Wickets: 11
Bowling average: 48.09
Economy: 5.27


It is hard to justify him in the team
 
Nawaz in 2023:

13 Matches
Runs: 115
Average: 19.16
High Score: 39

Wickets: 11
Bowling average: 48.09
Economy: 5.27


It is hard to justify him in the team
But you are forgetting:
13 Matches
Friends with Babar: 13
benefits rate: 100%
 
Babar and Imad didn't get on, so Babar had to settle old scores.
This Yaari Dosti thing is hurting the team very badly. It is somewhat acceptable at franchise level when you have the option to change the team but at national level, there is no room for such things.
 
Time to relieve Babar of captaincy, the guy can't even set field based on the situation. Pakistan has always been better off with a bowler captain.
 
Yet another game where Mohammad Nawaz exhibited complete lack of temparament and inability to deal with pressure
 
Nawaz has been bang average with ball and bat but let's not pretend Imad Wasim would have pulled up any trees.

Imad is a slightly better batter, equally anodyne bowler and significantly worse fielder than Nawaz.
 
Nawaz today once again proved that he is not good enough at international level and playing in pressure situations. Surely, we are going to see Imad back in the national team after the World Cup.
 
I dont undertand the preference for Nawaz over Imad. If you look at Imad's excellent form just before the World Cup, he should have been included without any hesitation which could have potentially made a significant difference for Pakistan in this world cup.

Just becuase of 1 blunder Pakistan team looking all over the place.
 
Look at the results of the poll.

This is one selection where there isn't much doubt about the selection being based around likes/dislikes rather than ability.

Babar's spat with Imad is well known. And we are aware that Babar likes to surround himself with yes men which Wasim definitely isn't.

I think it cost him his captaincy as Imad would walk into this XI and open the bowling.
 
Look at the results of the poll.

This is one selection where there isn't much doubt about the selection being based around likes/dislikes rather than ability.

Babar's spat with Imad is well known. And we are aware that Babar likes to surround himself with yes men which Wasim definitely isn't.

I think it cost him his captaincy as Imad would walk into this XI and open the bowling.
Nawaz has always been the better bowler and Imad the better batter.
Nawaz bowled better in this year's PSL as well.

The spot Imad was in contention with was what Salman Ali Agha/Iftikhar took. A batsman who could give you some overs.

Imad batting at 8 would have made no difference as his bowling would have been just as pathetic as Nawaz's in this tournament.
 
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