Imad Wasim - The dart machine

[Rana]

What exactly is the plan with this guy bowling 62MPH flat darts on flat decks? Thats his regular stock ball. He's got zero variation and doesn't turn the ball one bit. The only reason he has survived in the team is because of his 20's of 17 at the end of an innings making it look like he is doing well as a lower order hitter.

Surely Pakistan can invest time in a proper spinner than someone who has been found out at this level? No arm ball, no mystery, just the straight saucer or whatever he calls it at enough pace for high quality batsmen to play the paddle or ramp shots due to the extreme pace on the ball for a spinner.

 

[Stewie]

His style of bowling may work in the UAE but on faster pitches he will be taken apart. I have a bad feeling about this guy...

 

[shah_1]

His bowling is a mess, no penetration at all. Sadly we don't have any alternatives. This guy makes me miss Shahid Afridi


The only option I see is Mohammad Hafeez should go full on chucking mode like CT, and throw this guy out of the team

 

[Hawkeye]

Haha.

I'm glad people are starting to see the light. Imad Wasim's bowling, fielding, batting, everything is a mess!

He's basically good at nothing. A true definition of bits and pieces player, but none of the bits or pieces is quality in his case.

This guy escapes all the criticism and somehow manages to stay under the radar. None of his runs have ever mattered either, no impact.

 

[Rana]

Haha.

I'm glad people are starting to see the light. Imad Wasim's bowling, fielding, batting, everything is a mess!

He's basically good at nothing. A true definition of bits and pieces player, but none of the bits or pieces is quality in his case.

This guy escapes all the criticism and somehow manages to stay under the radar. None of his runs have ever mattered either, no impact.

Tbh if he was a top order batsman like Jaysuriya or Chris Gayle, he would still get away with this style of bowling. The problem is that he is played as a bowler who bats.

 

[the Great Khan]

rubbish..needs to be dropped for good after the world cup..that belly just winds me up everytime too..how has it come to this that a mediocre spinner like him can get into the side over a promising domestic off spinner??

 

[the Great Khan]

Tbh if he was a top order batsman like Jaysuriya or Chris Gayle, he would still get away with this style of bowling. The problem is that he is played as a bowler who bats.

he also has one big shot, the back away and hit through the offside tuller shot..all you have to do is give him a short ball and watch him flail like an amateur..

 

[chacha kashmiri]

The most obvious batsmen whose been targeted with an exhilarating forays of bouncers launched at him as he comes to the crease
Sadly his bowling doesn’t extract any retribution for how much he’s been cooking on gas since his very first debut

 

[Ahmed216]

I think hes a friend of kaptaan mediocre

 

[Titan24]

He is at best a 6th bowler with older ball and with him as a 5th bowler team would need a 6th bowler with him like Hafeez or any other batting all rounder in the team to support him as he just isnt good enough in ODIs to be bowling 10 overs regularly as we saw even in UAE against Aus where he was taken to cleaners. Even in CT17 we had Hafeez so Imad didnt have to bowl 10 overs every match.

I mentioned in the last thread I created that especially against the teams like Aus, Eng, Nz, SA where spin can be an attacking weapon Imad wont be strike force as he isnt a conventional spinner and doesnt have much variety except bit of pace variations.

I genuinely believe not having a genuine spinner has costed us big time in this series and against Aus in UAE.

 

[babajee]

He's hardly better than Faheem.

 

[Ahmed216]

We need two genuine spinners and two quick bowlers and one fast bowling all-rounder like bilawal bhatti and 1-2 part timers.

Mickey has been expecting bits n pieces to deliver, the main reason behind this teams horrendous performances

 

[Zaz]

Imad ws never a proper spinner Hes a batsman thay bowls a bit and a 6th bowling option who should chip in with 5-6 overs a game Anyone expecting more is silly

Pakistan messed up by not having a proper back uptp shadab Imad was never that

 

[Hasan123]

Darting the ball isn't the way to ball spin . We need a spinner who can turn the ball away from batters and also a spinner who is willing to flight the ball. Imad is a good support spinner but he shouldn't be out frontline spinner.

 

[Omer2002]

I have said all along he will get away with 20 20 as he is suppose NOT to concede runs and get wickets..but should never be in one day team. His batting doesnt warranty a place and his fielding is abysmal...big big mistake to take him to world cup

 

[Chokli]

He isn't being utilized properly, he's not a bowler who can bat a bit, he is a batsman who can bowl a bit.

Shouldn't be coming lower than 6.

 

[jnaveen1980]

What a thread lol Yes if he doesn't turn he could go for plenty.

 

[iPakistani]

Imad should be directly swapped for Hafeez and Faheem directly swapped for Shadab.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He isn't being utilized properly, he's not a bowler who can bat a bit, he is a batsman who can bowl a bit.

Shouldn't be coming lower than 6.

He can't do either, there's no way you could describe him as a batsman, he's worth one or two big slogs, that's it.

Tbh, it was obvious after a couple of appearances for Pakistan that he was a one trick pony with that arm ball, problem was he won a few games before other sides had a good look at him. Now they've cottoned on that he doesn't turn the ball away, they will just play him like a slow seamer who drifts the ball into the pads. He will be going for some huge sixes during the world cup, but we won't take him out of the side until it's too late because clearly the Pakistan 'think tank' have invested everything in him.

 

[Chokli]

He can't do either, there's no way you could describe him as a batsman, he's worth one or two big slogs, that's it.

Tbh, it was obvious after a couple of appearances for Pakistan that he was a one trick pony with that arm ball, problem was he won a few games before other sides had a good look at him. Now they've cottoned on that he doesn't turn the ball away, they will just play him like a slow seamer who drifts the ball into the pads. He will be going for some huge sixes during the world cup, but we won't take him out of the side until it's too late because clearly the Pakistan 'think tank' have invested everything in him.

What do you mean he can't?

 

[IMMY69]

Imad is extremely one dimensional.
He can't flight it because he rarely gets it to turn so on a wicket like Bristol he was pure cannon fodder.

In hindsight it was probably better that he opened the bowling yesterday... We usually hate this move but with a new ball he usually gets some in drift and if there was ever chance for his bowling to work it was opening up against Roy and Bairstow..

 

[MMHS]

No point bashing the guy at this 12th hour before WC. This is something (his bowling) not unknown and there has been several posts on this. He is picked in the playing XI to bowl 10 overs first but later judged on his batting - this was bound to happen. If he was a bit better batsman (I know his SR & Average), could have fought it out for No 6 spot, but for #7, his bowling is too ordinary & single dimensional, particularly outside Asia - that WACA game I had referred many times to explain this. A gun T20 player though, but not because of his batting rather his 4 overs are almost match decider.

Still there is time - call Gohar; guy is a genuine spinner and can’t be worse with bat than fast bowling all-rounder Faheem Ashraf.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What do you mean he can't?

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I mean like his bowling, his batting is limited. If you pitch the ball up or give him some width, he can hit a nice big shot. But looks like he has no answer to the bouncer so the better teams will surely have picked that up by now, same way they picked up he only bowls arm balls.

 

[Chokli]

I mean like his bowling, his batting is limited. If you pitch the ball up or give him some width, he can hit a nice big shot. But looks like he has no answer to the bouncer so the better teams will surely have picked that up by now, same way they picked up he only bowls arm balls.

His bowling is more useful, like others have said, when he is partnered up with a main spinner. Imad as the main spinner is a crime considering he doesn't even spin the ball.

Well if he's being sent up the order then he'll play like a proper batsman, when he has to slog the mindset is different.

He wouldn't have the same List A average as Umar Akmal if he couldn't bat.

 

[Titan24]

His bowling average of 44 and less than 1 wicket per match shows he can only make the team as a batting allrounder and that too when there is another batting all rounder like Hafeez who can support him.

When we see other teams with batting all rounders like India with Pandya who is supported by Jhadav or Aus with Stoinis who is supported by Maxwell as alone they arent good enough to be bowling 10 overs every match.

This was another poor combination put in place for this series just like against Aus from Mickey and the rest. Considering what we have witnessed in terms of decision making in last 2 years, its not even surprising anymore.

 

[octavian]

I mean like his bowling, his batting is limited. If you pitch the ball up or give him some width, he can hit a nice big shot. But looks like he has no answer to the bouncer so the better teams will surely have picked that up by now, same way they picked up he only bowls arm balls.

That hopeless hack/flail of the bat when the ball is short, is embarrassing.

 

[Cric1234]

His bowling is more useful, like others have said, when he is partnered up with a main spinner. Imad as the main spinner is a crime considering he doesn't even spin the ball.

Well if he's being sent up the order then he'll play like a proper batsman, when he has to slog the mindset is different.

He wouldn't have the same List A average as Umar Akmal if he couldn't bat.

Teams are working out his batting ball short and he hits it straight up in the air definitely a weakness there.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

His bowling is more useful, like others have said, when he is partnered up with a main spinner. Imad as the main spinner is a crime considering he doesn't even spin the ball.

Well if he's being sent up the order then he'll play like a proper batsman, when he has to slog the mindset is different.

He wouldn't have the same List A average as Umar Akmal if he couldn't bat.

You bowl a bouncer to Umar Akmal and you risk being hooked for 6. He may lack commitment or discipline but he can hit every shot in the book.

 

[Salman4.]

He's hardly better than Faheem.

Here we go.

 

[Chokli]

Teams are working out his batting ball short and he hits it straight up in the air definitely a weakness there.

Blame has to go to the batting coach for not rectifying that.

 

[The Viper]

He doesn't spin the ball or have any variations to trouble batsman on these pitches. His batting is saving his place at the moment.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

One thing he was good at was being economical, he was never a wicket taker. If he can't contain then he needs to be dropped from the XI for M Hafeez, who can bat and bowl better than him.

Playing XI for World Cup:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Imam Ul Haq
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail
5) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
6) Mohammad Hafeez
7) Asif Ali
8) Shadab Khan
9) Mohammad Amir
10) Hasan Ali
11) Shaheen Afridi

 

[Green Patriot]

Imad should not play for Pakistan beyond t20s.
He is the definition of mediocrity.He should definitely not be a part of our long term plans.

And on top of that i dont like his attitude.Doesnt seem very dedicated but walks around like he is the boss.We can do without him.

 

[Mainul]

Blame has to go to the batting coach for not rectifying that.

Batting coach can't rectify major flaws, he can only fine tune at this level.

 

[UP]

Its not only him. We have been producing some real trash for a decade or more now. Im sick of the decline of a cricket nation that was known for its flair and in your face personalities.

 

[The_Odd_One]

He does not spin the bowl so he is useless on extremely flat pitches. Any decent spinner (exclude Yasir) who could turn the ball a bit would have been far more handy in these conditions.

 

[adzzy786]

I said this months ago, he averages 45 with the ball, this guy is not an all rounder. He’s made just over 700 runs in his career, so he actually averages 19 with the bat- boosted heavily with his not out scores.

 

[Markhor]

Imad is not, and will not be a wicket-taking spinner in ODIs. These wicket to wicket darts are fine in T20s but not over the course of 10 overs.

 

[Chokli]

Batting coach can't rectify major flaws, he can only fine tune at this level.

If the batting coach is witnessing his batsman get out to the same delivery countless times then he definitely needs to work with the batsman so it doesn't occur in the future.

That little tweak might even be as simple as just leaving the ball that is short.

 

[Chokli]

He’s made just over 700 runs in his career, so he actually averages 19 with the bat- boosted heavily with his not out scores.

It doesn't work like that mate.

 

[shah_1]

Imad fans need to accept that he isn't good enough but also we have no alternative. Hafeez is not good enough to bowl 10 overs and neither is Imad. Its a problem for captain.

The basic of ODI team is to have a good AR to have the right balance and we couldn't find one since Razzaq

 

[jnaveen1980]

More i see him he is clone of Krunal Pandya who can slam pitched up deliveries a long way. Absolutely out of position against bouncers. Also bowls at 110 kph

 

[saeedhk]

He's hardly better than Faheem.

Nope. He is much much better than Faheem. Imad is capable of playing cameos and is also a good bowler on certain pitches. What is Kluzener good at? And when did he score anything except Bangladesh with 30m boundary?

 

[MP2011]

More i see him he is clone of Krunal Pandya who can slam pitched up deliveries a long way. Absolutely out of position against bouncers. Also bowls at 110 kph

Well spotted!

Bits and pieces cricketers are what, the bits and pieces cricketers. Go for specialists.

 

[Rana]

Imad Ronaldo has much more confidence in his ability than Faheem Klusenar.

Faheem is the quietest, calmest and most timid cricketer I have seen in recent years. He can be so much better if he displays even an ounce of the aggression that Ronaldo displays.

 

[Invincible Gujjar]

He is not good enough as a bowler neither as a batsman but due to mediocrity of other players he is still in the team.

 

[nam]

But But he carries himself like a leader in the field

 

[Hawkeye]

More i see him he is clone of Krunal Pandya who can slam pitched up deliveries a long way. Absolutely out of position against bouncers. Also bowls at 110 kph

Right.

Imad fan club will attack you the moment you start pointing out some facts.

This guy is epitome of mediocrity, good for nothing and average at best in every facet of the game.

Anyways, the die hard fans will eventually see the light as well. They're staying out of this thread for now.

 

[Rana]

Right.

Imad fan club will attack you the moment you start pointing out some facts.

This guy is epitome of mediocrity, good for nothing and average at best in every facet of the game.

Anyways, the die hard fans will eventually see the light as well. They're staying out of this thread for now.

Even if they return, can they dispute the darts?

 

[Chokli]

Needs to bat higher than 6.

His batting is being wasted at 7.

 

[Bewal Express]

His action is geared towards bringing the ball back to such an extent that its incredibly difficult for him to spin it away. As soon as Roy worked out that he can be hit with incoming angle- he was toast.

 

[Kianig89]

Would take Fahim over him as the former can reverse the ball

 

[MMHS]

He's hardly better than Faheem.

He can't be.

It's blasphemous to compare a FAST BOWLING ALL-ROUNDER with a spin darter. Faheem's class & comparability is totally in different league .......

 

[Pete Rose]

Assuming that hafeez can chuck about two games before he is called, I would replace Imad with Hafeez if we get to the semi-final.

 

[Saj]

To be fair to him is bowling record is very good.

However England have come up with a very good plan against him and he needs to come up with something different.

 

[Ahmed216]

To be fair to him is bowling record is very good.

However England have come up with a very good plan against him and he needs to come up with something different.

33 wickets in 44 matches@45 is poor imo

 

[Saj]

33 wickets in 44 matches@45 is poor imo

Economy rate of 4.76 in ODIs
Economy rate of 5.86 in T20Is

Quite often bowling in the powerplay.

That's a pretty good record, for someone who is there to support the wicket-taking bowlers.

 

[Hyperion66]

Much better limited over player than Jadeja and Krunal Pandya.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

I'd like to see him bat up the order.

 

[Titan24]

Economy rate of 4.76 in ODIs
Economy rate of 5.86 in T20Is

Quite often bowling in the powerplay.

That's a pretty good record, for someone who is there to support the wicket-taking bowlers.

Yes his career economy has been really good but his recent performances against Aus and now against Eng are bit worrying as he has gone for plenty.

No support of a decent spinner at the other end in middle overs hasn't helped either.

 

[classic]

Small grounds could be a factor too for his run leaks.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

As we have hafeez waiting in dugout imad should be replaced with hafeez

 

[hussain.r97]

Imad's bowling in ODIs has always been a question mark. I reckon Hafeez should replace him. He can easily bowl his overs, and provides a far superior batting option, could be slotted in at 6, with Asif coming in at 7.

 

[Naveedahmed1]

It’s called swag

.. or so he thinks

 

[Rana]

Is the dart machine being replaced today?

 

[Abid Z]

I think he’s the worst player in the team. Can’t bat with any real significance, can’t bowl to apply any great pressure let alone take wickets and I can’t remember any outstanding fielding either. Let’s face it, he’s in the team for his English speaking ability.

 

[silentkiller187]

he can't even bat, i would take Malik or Hafeez over him anyday.

 

[Hawkeye]

People, it's still not too late. See the light.

 

[uak92]

Drop Imad and Fahim. Keep Abid!

 

[hadi123]

He's struggled this series, but he's been playing as the front line spinner which doesn't suit him. He and Shadab form a good partnership, Imad's job is to tie up one end, as well as score a few quick runs, and create pressure for his partner, Shadab, who takes more wickets.

 

[babajee]

He's absolute rubbish. Would rather play Hafeez as 5th bowler.

 

[Kroll]

Imad serving up sixer balls.

 

[Rana]

Jason Roy proper lining up the darts

 

[Hawkeye]

Mediocrity can't hide forever.

 

[Zaz]

Doesnt help when fielders cant hold onto simple chances

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He's absolute rubbish. Would rather play Hafeez as 5th bowler.

If he's an allrounder then Hafeez and Shoaib Malik are superstar versions.

 

[Rana]

“Dart to end a very successful over”

Jee oye cheetah Imad

 

[babajee]

Those wickets don't change a thing.

 

[waleed88]

My My.. how the tables have turned??

Future captain I'm guessing now

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Right now, both Hafeez and Shoaib are looking superior in both batting and bowling.