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All fake using softwares. Not creditable at all.
Yes. They are real when it is the opposition but fake when it comes to the fake messiah & liar Imran Khan.
Yes. They are real when it is the opposition but fake when it comes to the fake messiah & liar Imran Khan.
Yes. They are real when it is the opposition but fake when it comes to the fake messiah & liar Imran Khan.
What was said and who is Ayla?
What was said and who is Ayla?
Prove it.
I don’t understand why Youthopians are getting defensive & crying.
Everyone knows that Imran was a huge womanizer during his playing days. He used his fame & money to have affairs with numerous women & he also has illegitimate children, one of whom is currently with his ex-wife in London which he has disowned to save his political career because if accepts her, he will be disqualified by the Constitution of Pakistan.
Once a womanizer always a womanizer. Any man who is into this habit will continue for his entire life. It becomes part of your nature. This is how he ended up marrying Reham in the first place.
So I urge Youthopians not to cry & not to be in denial, although I understand that it is too much to ask for.
Burden of proof lies on the doubter. If you doubt that these audios are fake, please provide proof.
Anyone can make up a story and then say what you are saying.
These are serious allegations and no joke.
Having listened to the full audio, I am 110% sure it is Imran Khan himself. I personally do not mind whatever a person does in their private lives but you have a case to answer when you preach others to be pious, continuously diss Western lifestyle, engage in victim blaming, portray yourself as a custodian of Islam and traditional values, lecture others on behayaai (vulgarity) and carry prayer beads around for optics and photos.
This is the apex of hypocrisy and double talk.
Ayla Malik’s husband is PTI MPA in Baluchistan assembly and Ayla belongs to an extremely powerful and wealthy family.
When you look at Imran’s history, why would you even assume that this is fake?
Burden of proof lies on the doubter. If you doubt that these audios are fake, please provide proof.
I have not listened the audio and still believe you are blaming IK without solid evidence.Having listened to the full audio, I am 110% sure it is Imran Khan himself. I personally do not mind whatever a person does in their private lives but you have a case to answer when you preach others to be pious, continuously diss Western lifestyle, engage in victim blaming, portray yourself as a custodian of Islam and traditional values, lecture others on behayaai (vulgarity) and carry prayer beads around for optics and photos.
This is the apex of hypocrisy and double talk.
Ayla Malik’s husband is PTI MPA in Baluchistan assembly and Ayla belongs to an extremely powerful and wealthy family.
All fake using softwares. Not creditable at all.
Burden of proof lies on the doubter. If you doubt that these audios are fake, please provide proof.
There is no such thing as “consensual” in Pakistan. Extra-marital affairs are strictly forbidden in Islam..
I know very well how much Islam is being practiced in Pakistan , corruption of billions of $$ is not Islamic. At least he is not hurting anyone ( except ---- ) .
But when fake messiah spends half of his time giving lectures on Islam & morality in public while in his personal life, he continues to do what he has done all his life, people will point out the hypocrisy.
Don’t be a hypocrite & then complain that people are meddling with your personal matters & judging you.
Burden of proof lies on the doubter. If you doubt that these audios are fake, please provide proof.
First of all, there is no proof that this is Imran - as I said above, none of the mainstream media sources, local or foreign, are even touching this story due to the fact that NOTHING can be surmised from this.
The only people jumping up and down are the usual suspects who wait around waiting for anything they can find on Imran which in itself is reprehensible.
When there is more proof, then feel free to do your usual posts. Until then allow the same dignity that anyone else would allow to you if someone created an audio of you. Remember its not about Imran, this is about one human who like you and me will answer to the Almighty.
Please memorialize this comment. “Burden of proof lies with the doubter” lol, firstly this is the most absurd thing I’ve ever read as it means anyone can come forward with a form of evidence and then it’s up to the other party to prove it’s fake. This is based on the assumption that any sort of evidence is 100% accurate to begin with. Vah, what a way to run things. Secondly, let’s stick with this when the Maryam tapes are released. Or maybe your murshad Nawaz’ financial irregularities. I love this, burden of proof lies with the doubter! Make this our new national slogan.
Please memorialize this comment. “Burden of proof lies with the doubter” lol, firstly this is the most absurd thing I’ve ever read as it means anyone can come forward with a form of evidence and then it’s up to the other party to prove it’s fake. This is based on the assumption that any sort of evidence is 100% accurate to begin with. Vah, what a way to run things. Secondly, let’s stick with this when the Maryam tapes are released. Or maybe your murshad Nawaz’ financial irregularities. I love this, burden of proof lies with the doubter! Make this our new national slogan.
No, it doesn't. You are doubting Khan's character. The burden of proof is on you. You are innocent until proven guilty in the western society. Yet again, you support a Banana Rubric government so this conversation is useless with you.
My proof is the audio tape. It is clearly Imran’s voice. It is tangible proof that can be presented in court.
What is your proof that this is fake? As I said earlier, calling it fake is not proof just like accusing Imran or anyone (without any tangible evidence such as audio tapes etc.) is not proof.
[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] FYI
No, an audio until confirmed by the court is not proof. As we know deep fake can do this with ease.
Why even wait for an audio if that is the case and start calling Imran whatever you feel like?
The audio is much stronger proof that “it is fake because I am saying so”. Please provide concrete counter-proof that it is fake.
As long as there is no counter-proof other than statements backed by nothing, it is clearly settled that Imran is guilty.
My proof is the audio tape. It is clearly Imran’s voice. It is tangible proof that can be presented in court.
What is your proof that this is fake? As I said earlier, calling it fake is not proof just like accusing Imran or anyone (without any tangible evidence such as audio tapes etc.) is not proof.
[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] FYI
The audio is much stronger proof that “it is fake because I am saying so”. Please provide concrete counter-proof that it is fake.
As long as there is no counter-proof other than statements backed by nothing, it is clearly settled that Imran is guilty.
A forensic test will prove the credibility of the tapes.
Assuming its not a fake. If Imran was single at that point, why the outrage?
Two consenting adults. Unless ofcourse this is a case of sexual favours for political clout.
What next, bring back the various affairs he had in the past?
Btw, who recorded the video and who released it?
My proof is the audio tape. It is clearly Imran’s voice. It is tangible proof that can be presented in court.
What is your proof that this is fake? As I said earlier, calling it fake is not proof just like accusing Imran or anyone (without any tangible evidence such as audio tapes etc.) is not proof.
[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] FYI
The audio is much stronger proof that “it is fake because I am saying so”. Please provide concrete counter-proof that it is fake.
As long as there is no counter-proof other than statements backed by nothing, it is clearly settled that Imran is guilty.
Truly absurd statement yet again from you. It is not clearly settled. I can go and make an audio tape now using tech/AI.
You must be having joke and have no legal knowledge what so ever.
The audio has no legal value and can not be considered a proof. However, if you want to consider it as a proof then what can one say but smile at your naivety.
The audio is sufficient proof. At least it is tangible, concrete. It is a lot more credible than empty statements like “it is fake because I am saying so” which is not backed by any evidence.
Please provide proof that the audio tape is fake.
Please go ahead & make an audio of Shehbaz’s voice claiming that Imran was the best PM ever. I want to see how good a job you can do. I’m waiting.
A forensic test will prove the credibility of the tapes.
Assuming its not a fake. If Imran was single at that point, why the outrage?
Two consenting adults. Unless ofcourse this is a case of sexual favours for political clout.
What next, bring back the various affairs he had in the past?
Btw, who recorded the video and who released it?
I’m sure such technology exists. In 2022, if the industry can bring dead actors to life using CGI, they can also recreate someone’s voice.
However, the existence of this technology is zero proof or evidence that this particular audio is fake.
The reason why I asked the other poster to recreate Shehbaz’s audio is because I want to see how good his work is, since he claimed very confidently that he can go ahead & make an audio tape now.
I hope it wasn’t just a case of talking & he can walk it as well. I am assuming that he is a sound engineer or something & knows what he is talking about.
Nonetheless, the opposition needs to realize that such audio tapes have no impact in the long-term. People like you support Imran in spite of his past (& present) & in spite of the Sita White episode.
Even if Imran is caught red-handed, you will shrug it off saying that it is his personal life & he can do what he wants.
We don’t need audio tapes to understand the type of person Imran is. Everyone is fully aware of his hypocrisy.
I’m sure such technology exists. In 2022, if the industry can bring dead actors to life using CGI, they can also recreate someone’s voice.
However, the existence of this technology is zero proof or evidence that this particular audio is fake.
The reason why I asked the other poster to recreate Shehbaz’s audio is because I want to see how good his work is, since he claimed very confidently that he can go ahead & make an audio tape now.
I hope it wasn’t just a case of talking & he can walk it as well. I am assuming that he is a sound engineer or something & knows what he is talking about.
Nonetheless, the opposition needs to realize that such audio tapes have no impact in the long-term. People like you support Imran in spite of his past (& present) & in spite of the Sita White episode.
Even if Imran is caught red-handed, you will shrug it off saying that it is his personal life & he can do what he wants.
We don’t need audio tapes to understand the type of person Imran is. Everyone is fully aware of his hypocrisy.
Thanks for the reply. You have ran away from all the threads on the economy as the your real PM has taken us to a practical default and destroyed an economy growing at 6% and exports up by a 1/3rd.
As far as this is concerned, your guys have a previous with CJP Nisar and look how that turned out. Noorani swore that he had got it authenticated and it was a lie. As you have no support and are hated by everyone in PK and the Generals are using you to stay in power, this is fake.
Please provide evidence that this is fake. Gut feeling & putting two & two together are not evidence.
Your 110% means nothing.
There is no proof and simply your personal prejudice against Imran Khan coming out.
I will allow your post but we will not allow anyone's name to be besmirched like this
You can't fake a real time 2 way conversation in Urdu language using ANY MODERN AI tools, you can dub some words here and there but never the whole conversation, the modern AI tools can only fake English language conversations.
I'm afraid my friend, but the audio leaks are of Imran Khan himself!
You can't fake a real time 2 way conversation in Urdu language using ANY MODERN AI tools, you can dub some words here and there but never the whole conversation, the modern AI tools can only fake English language conversations.
I'm afraid my friend, but the audio leaks are of Imran Khan himself!
I don't have, it’s fake. The same company produced the CJP tapes. Nothing to be added.
Truly absurd statement yet again from you. It is not clearly settled. I can go and make an audio tape now using tech/AI.
Please go ahead & make an audio of Shehbaz’s voice claiming that Imran was the best PM ever. I want to see how good a job you can do. I’m waiting.
So you have zero counter-evidence. Okay.
My friend, I have been shown fakes which boggle the mind.
The burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused.
I say again
NO mainstream media nor even IK's opponents are saying anything about this - which would basically be a freebee. Why do you think that is?
Are you sure? What is this? [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] and you believed them.
What about the CJP tapes. They were in Urdu and Noorani said he got them authenticated