India asked to review short-sighted approach to CPEC

[Rishikesh]

ISLAMABAD: Minister for Planning, Development and Reforms Ahsan Iqbal has asked India to benefit from the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project, instead of criticising it.

Addressing a press conference on Thursday, he advised New Delhi to review its short-sighted approach towards the project. He said the “CPEC is purely an economic development project that would bring prosperity. India should get benefit from the project rather than pursuing unnecessary criticism”.

Mr Iqbal said India’s reaction to the CPEC was not positive and sooner or later it would realise that the project would benefit the entire region. “The CPEC would bring prosperity to the region, including China and Pakistan,” he added.

Stressing the need for strengthening cooperation in the region, the minister said the resolution of the issues didn’t lie in tensions and disputes among regional countries. He said India held the key to peace in South Asia and that country could not progress without cooperation.

He said the future of Asian countries depended on promotion of trade and commerce and connectivity through transport corridors.

“Transport corridors help connect the countries and play a pivotal role in economic integration, trade development and regional connectivity across the globe,” he added.

The minister said Pakistan was also making progress on other corridors in order to enhance its connectivity through the Central Asia Regional Economic Cooper–ation. The regional cooperation was opening new opportunities for growth and progress, he said.

The minister said South Asia was the least integrated region in the world and that is why regional countries, including India, Bangladesh and Pakistan, were ranked among least developed countries in terms of social indicators. He stressed the need for developing more markets to create demand for growth and said it was only possible through enhanced cooperation and connectivity among regions as well as with other markets of the world.

“The CPEC is not only an economic integration project of the region, but it would also open ways for market access to Central Asian states and through Central Asia to other parts of the world,” he said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1397018/india-asked-to-review-short-sighted-approach-to-cpec

Don't know what these guys were thinking when they were invited to be a part of SAARC connectivity project back in 2014. Now India have alternative connectivity options.

 

[big_gamer007]

If it helps India in future then we should invest in it..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

ISLAMABAD: Minister for Planning, Development and Reforms Ahsan Iqbal has asked India to benefit from the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project, instead of criticising it.

Addressing a press conference on Thursday, he advised New Delhi to review its short-sighted approach towards the project. He said the “CPEC is purely an economic development project that would bring prosperity. India should get benefit from the project rather than pursuing unnecessary criticism”.

Mr Iqbal said India’s reaction to the CPEC was not positive and sooner or later it would realise that the project would benefit the entire region. “The CPEC would bring prosperity to the region, including China and Pakistan,” he added.

Stressing the need for strengthening cooperation in the region, the minister said the resolution of the issues didn’t lie in tensions and disputes among regional countries. He said India held the key to peace in South Asia and that country could not progress without cooperation.

He said the future of Asian countries depended on promotion of trade and commerce and connectivity through transport corridors.

“Transport corridors help connect the countries and play a pivotal role in economic integration, trade development and regional connectivity across the globe,” he added.

The minister said Pakistan was also making progress on other corridors in order to enhance its connectivity through the Central Asia Regional Economic Cooper–ation. The regional cooperation was opening new opportunities for growth and progress, he said.

The minister said South Asia was the least integrated region in the world and that is why regional countries, including India, Bangladesh and Pakistan, were ranked among least developed countries in terms of social indicators. He stressed the need for developing more markets to create demand for growth and said it was only possible through enhanced cooperation and connectivity among regions as well as with other markets of the world.

“The CPEC is not only an economic integration project of the region, but it would also open ways for market access to Central Asian states and through Central Asia to other parts of the world,” he said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1397018/india-asked-to-review-short-sighted-approach-to-cpec

Don't know what these guys were thinking when they were invited to be a part of SAARC connectivity project back in 2014. Now India have alternative connectivity options.

What happened to SAARC? I would imagine it was a lack of trust of the big players somewhere along the line, similar to India's lack of trust in CPEC big players. Or maybe just unfavourable terms for the countries who declined taking up on it.

 

[Bhaijaan]

India needs to accept the bitter reality that CPEC is indeed happening and the more they keep running away from this reality the more they hurt their chances of benefiting from it in future.

CPEC will not only bring prosperity to the region but as well as peace as Pakistan knows any war with India in future will surely invite dozens of missiles to Gwadar which they will not want at any cost.

An independent Kashmir & India being part of CPEC are two major developments must needed for regional prosperity.

- Bhaijaan

 

[English August]

Don't know what these guys were thinking when they were invited to be a part of SAARC connectivity project back in 2014. Now India have alternative connectivity options.

Pakistanis prefer to be ruled by the Chinese instead of being friendly with their south Asian neighbors. It's their choice, can't do anything about it. It's a free world.

Also I don't understand why this Pakistani minister is bothered about criticism. Can't he just ignore it? It's not as if India is stopping China from building all these fancy dams, power plants and roads in Pakistan. So what's the problem?

 

[PakLFC]

Pakistanis prefer to be ruled by the Chinese instead of being friendly with their south Asian neighbors. It's their choice, can't do anything about it. It's a free world.

Also I don't understand why this Pakistani minister is bothered about criticism. Can't he just ignore it? It's not as if India is stopping China from building all these fancy dams, power plants and roads in Pakistan. So what's the problem?

Pak is not being ruled by China anymore then India is by Israel. We can't be friendly with a country we are constantly at odds with and have many outstanding issues. There is no problem at all, CPEC is happening with or without India. The minister just offered India a slice of the cake if they want it.

 

[English August]

Pak is not being ruled by China anymore then India is by Israel. We can't be friendly with a country we are constantly at odds with and have many outstanding issues. There is no problem at all, CPEC is happening with or without India. The minister just offered India a slice of the cake if they want it.

You can live in your bubble and pretend that the Chinese aren't coming, but let me tell you the reality: the Chinese are coming. Your own political commentators are saying that now. Read your own press! Dawn.com isn't owned by India (at least not yet )

Could you name one asset in India that's fully owned and controlled by Israel? Just one.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I am starting to view the CPEC in a different view unlike many other fellow Indians. I feel Pakistan's problem is religion, this obsession with Islam has regressed them so much that a Chinese influence could potentially stop this. China once they hold key strategic assets of Pakistan will bring introduce their strong anti-religious objective and bring in the Mullahs, extremist to behave or they will just dispose them, which in turn will finally see Pakistan progressing but ofcourse under China..

 

[Pakistanian]

I am starting to view the CPEC in a different view unlike many other fellow Indians. I feel Pakistan's problem is religion, this obsession with Islam has regressed them so much that a Chinese influence could potentially stop this. China once they hold key strategic assets of Pakistan will bring introduce their strong anti-religious objective and bring in the Mullahs, extremist to behave or they will just dispose them, which in turn will finally see Pakistan progressing but ofcourse under China..

That's how I see it too, China would be a better influence than KSA.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Pakistanis prefer to be ruled by the Chinese instead of being friendly with their south Asian neighbors. It's their choice, can't do anything about it. It's a free world.

Also I don't understand why this Pakistani minister is bothered about criticism. Can't he just ignore it? It's not as if India is stopping China from building all these fancy dams, power plants and roads in Pakistan. So what's the problem?

Oh please.

This is propaganda that India has been spewing for ages.

Apparently Pakistan was born a puppet country. They are always controlled by foreign powers according to India.

India said Pak was controlled by United States, yet Pakistan only ever did what it considered in its best interest. In matters that were not perceived to be in its best interest, Pakistan even defied America despite threats of sanctions, withholding of reimbursements of services rendered (or what the Americans call aid).

The same case will be with China.

Truth is India is threatened by China's growing influence in the region. Obviously India is not going to make significant investments in Pakistan at the moment. However in countries India does make investments in, China has been quickly gaining a presence such as in Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and a number of other countries. India has been losing ground, hence all of this propaganda against CPEC.

Also, not sure how being friendly with India would benefit. India is an extremely invasive neighbor, who meddles a lot with Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh's internal politics.

For the most part China leaves Pakistanis to govern themselves.

 

[blackanhyellow]

China has aggressive policies to certain countries in the region, but has always been friendly to Pakistan.

 

[PakLFC]

You can live in your bubble and pretend that the Chinese aren't coming, but let me tell you the reality: the Chinese are coming. Your own political commentators are saying that now. Read your own press! Dawn.com isn't owned by India (at least not yet )

Could you name one asset in India that's fully owned and controlled by Israel? Just one.

Chinese are coming where? To help us as they are our friends? Yes they are as CPEC is a win-win situation. They are not gonna invade us or convert us to their ways if that is what you mean? We will never lose our culture unlike Indian's who have all been Americanised. Don't deny it when it's for all to see I don't follow what is happening in India but know that they provide massive military hardware to India like China does to us. You do realise that press often talk a lot of rubbish? You can read your own papers for verification.

 

[English August]

Chinese are coming where? To help us as they are our friends? Yes they are as CPEC is a win-win situation. They are not gonna invade us or convert us to their ways if that is what you mean? We will never lose our culture unlike Indian's who have all been Americanised. Don't deny it when it's for all to see I don't follow what is happening in India but know that they provide massive military hardware to India like China does to us. You do realise that press often talk a lot of rubbish? You can read your own papers for verification.

So you're admitting that you know nothing about India and yet you want to tell us that Ind-Israel relationship is same as Pak-China? Nice.

India and Israel are like trading partners. China treats Pak like its client state. There is a big difference.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No thank you.

The problem with CPEC is that it passes through POK.

Secondly India should and most likely will stay away from all Chinese BRI initiatives. Like miles away.

 

[www787]

People boosting about alliance. They are made for interest and nothing else. One minute you are in favor and other you aren't.

India will and should join CPEC.

 

[cricketjoshila]

People boosting about alliance. They are made for interest and nothing else. One minute you are in favor and other you aren't.

India will and should join CPEC.

Why will India join CPEC? Why should India join CPEC?

 

[blackanhyellow]

No thank you.

The problem with CPEC is that it passes through POK.

Secondly India should and most likely will stay away from all Chinese BRI initiatives. Like miles away.

Why is that a problem? Does India not build roads and infrastructure in IOK?

 

[www787]

Why will India join CPEC? Why should India join CPEC?

Why wouldn't India join something that would benefit India? At the end of the day it is all about $$$ for India.

Sure, current hard line extremist religious radical leader won't be joining to please his sheeple to get votes but India will not continue with extremist religious leader forever and eventually India will because it will benefit them.

 

[R3verse Swing]

India is cursed geographically.

In the North India has the Mountains/China.

In the South India has the Ocean.

In the East India has Bangladesh.

In the West India has Pakistan.

There is no placed to run. Indian Goods would have to traverse through political and treacherous territory, which is why the most profitable Indian export is labour (which stays within India); Thus as geography would have it, the most optimal and profitable path to Europe/West is via the West, meaning via Pakistan/CPEC.

CPEC will strengthen the Western front further from an economical and political point of view, so if India do not wish to join CPEC, it is their lost, because India is only isolating itself, literally. You only have to read up on history to realise how modern India was conquered from the Western front.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why is that a problem? Does India not build roads and infrastructure in IOK?

Pakistan joins in building those structures? No.

Joining CPEC means India legitimises Pakistan's right to allow a third country to build a export corridor through what India says is its territory.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why wouldn't India join something that would benefit India? At the end of the day it is all about $$$ for India.

Sure, current hard line extremist religious radical leader won't be joining to please his sheeple to get votes but India will not continue with extremist religious leader forever and eventually India will because it will benefit them.

We are not interested in having China build something using chinese company and labour funded by chinese banks on high interest rates and mainly used to further chinese interests and then also pay for it.

India doesnot allow foreign companies to build strategic infrastructure like ports etc, no way chinese will ever get security clearance to do it.

This isnt Modi's policy, this is Indias policy by large since 1960s and will remain so.

And India has plenty of countries investing in India like the Japanese or Americans or Europeans even Russians. So the farther we stay away from the Chinese the better. BRI or CPEC doesnot benefit us.

Lastly a 2.5tn economy is not for sale for chinese $$$$.

 

[www787]

We are not interested in having China build something using chinese company and labour funded by chinese banks on high interest rates and mainly used to further chinese interests and then also pay for it.

India doesnot allow foreign companies to build strategic infrastructure like ports etc, no way chinese will ever get security clearance to do it.

This isnt Modi's policy, this is Indias policy by large since 1960s and will remain so.

And India has plenty of countries investing in India like the Japanese or Americans or Europeans even Russians. So the farther we stay away from the Chinese the better. BRI or CPEC doesnot benefit us.

Lastly a 2.5tn economy is not for sale for chinese $$$$.

you are not a representative of your government, your voice is limited to one vote you cast.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Someone doesnot realise that exports happen through sea, through international waters from south,west and east of India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

you are not a representative of your government, your voice is limited to one vote you cast.

I am telling you my country's stated policy. For 50 years.

 

[www787]

I am telling you my country's stated policy. For 50 years.

policy can be changed and it will.

India can't compete with China. At least not for another 20-30 years.

 

[CanadianG00se]

policy can be changed and it will.

India can't compete with China. At least not for another 20-30 years.

India alone can not compete China economically, similar to how Pakistan can not compete India economically. Which is why alliance is much needed, India allied with US and Pakistan with China.

Countries join alliance if they feel they would benefit from it in long term. India would never join CPEC as it has bitter history with both China and Pakistan. Joining CPEC would be suicidal for India. I also share common opinion like many Indians, that we should stay far far away from CPEC. Goodluck to Pakistan with CPEC, i personally have no illfeelings towards CPEC.

 

[gani999]

All of China's existing seaports are either on its Pacific coast, or on the South China Sea. Both these places are infested with American, Australian, Thai, Singaporean, Filipino, Japanese or Taiwanese navy vessels patrolling 24x7, and all of these nations are wary of the Chinese. Come a crisis, all these navies can cause China and its trade routes a lot of headache.
The CPEC was dreamed up by China only so that it could have access to a safe and reliable sea port. Gwadar provided a good solution and Pakistan a willing partner.

India will not join CPEC as it offers it no benefit whatsoever. Notwithstanding all the tall claims emanating from Pakistan about the CPEC being the elixir to all of the World's problems, the reality is that only Pakistan, China, and a couple of landlocked Central Asian countries are going to benefit from it. The others really couldn't care less.

 

[www787]

India alone can not compete China economically, similar to how Pakistan can not compete India economically. Which is why alliance is much needed, India allied with US and Pakistan with China.

Countries join alliance if they feel they would benefit from it in long term. India would never join CPEC as it has bitter history with both China and Pakistan. Joining CPEC would be suicidal for India. I also share common opinion like many Indians, that we should stay far far away from CPEC. Goodluck to Pakistan with CPEC, i personally have no illfeelings towards CPEC.

Policy aren't made on emotions, only fictional Bollywood stories are. Most of the policy are made to influence and make $$$$, and $$$$ Trumps all in today's world.

suicidal? care to elaborate?

 

[sjahmed23]

I fail to understand how CPEC will generate so many benefits for all the countries involved by opening up routes to western china? We are living in the 21th century where technology rule the roost, we should be talking about that more instead. Our focus is on the wrong thing at the wrong time once again.

 

[www787]

I fail to understand how CPEC will generate so many benefits for all the countries involved by opening up routes to western china? We are living in the 21th century where technology rule the roost, we should be talking about that more instead. Our focus is on the wrong thing at the wrong time once again.

It will generate benefits that is design to generate. Obviously other sectors and aspect need to be taken care of and that can only happen with a competent government in place.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Indians simply do not realise that CPEC route can shave off weeks, if not months, for goods to travel from China to West/Europe/ME, and vice versa.

Look up the old Silk Road route and you will not be left wondering why it was so profitable.

 

[Syed1]

Honestly don't see any benefit for India for joining CPEC, neither I see a benefit for Pakistan if India joins. Just some rhetoric from a politician which isn't worth the paper it is printed on.




That being said, India-Pakistan have huge trade potential and both countries can gain a lot if they have unrestricted trade and industrial exchange.

 

[PakLFC]

So you're admitting that you know nothing about India and yet you want to tell us that Ind-Israel relationship is same as Pak-China? Nice.

India and Israel are like trading partners. China treats Pak like its client state. There is a big difference.

No China don't treat Pak like a client state rather Indian's are jealous and envious of Sino-Pak relations. China is about ten times bigger then Pak in size so will have certain advantages. I know enoigh about India to see you depend on Israel militarily and America culturally

 

[CanadianG00se]

Policy aren't made on emotions, only fictional Bollywood stories are. Most of the policy are made to influence and make $$$$, and $$$$ Trumps all in today's world.

suicidal? care to elaborate?

My post gives you the answer you are looking for.

Joining CPEC is suicidal in a sense getting involved with not one but two countries that India have hostility. Secondly, joining CPEC would mean India distancing herself from American alliance and potential FDI. Now, India have to pick either China or US and we all know where is India leaning.


Policy of a nation is often influenced by mood of the masses, and atm mood in India is anti-Pakistan which isnt going to change anytime soon. Modi is smart leader, he isnt going to commit blunder a year before PM elections. Laslty, CPEC (I assume its similar to US-Canada trade route) would enforce India open up its border to Pakistan and relax visas rules which in currently scenario is very unlikely.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Honestly don't see any benefit for India for joining CPEC, neither I see a benefit for Pakistan if India joins. Just some rhetoric from a politician which isn't worth the paper it is printed on.




That being said, India-Pakistan have huge trade potential and both countries can gain a lot if they have unrestricted trade and industrial exchange.

For that to happen both countries need to have mutual respect and trust which is what lacking ATM. I cant see that changes anytime soon, so in best interest both countries should not cross each others path and let each other live in peace.

 

[Syed1]

For that to happen both countries need to have mutual respect and trust which is what lacking ATM. I cant see that changes anytime soon, so in best interest both countries should not cross each others path and let each other live in peace.

Kinda hard to do when you are right next to eachother....


Its like when you have a falling out with your neighbour, they happen to come and collect the mail same time as you for the next two weeks