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With sub 40 average batsmen in our team along with the ATG Virat Kholi there is no doubt that this batting line up matches up with the great Australians. Dhawan, Rohit, Rahul, Kholi are all comparable to Gilchrist, Hayden, Ponting, Bevan.

The bowling is lining up well and improving day by day. Fast bowlers are reaching new heights as Bhuvi, Yadav and Shami consistently hit 140+ They always come out with a plan backed by the agile and swift fielding. Spinners also play an important role and this is where India might better the Aussies, as we have spinners capable of wreaking havoc in the subcontinent.

India have dominated world cricket since the 2011 cricket World Cup but now, starting with this Pakistan match, it seems like team India will be ruthlessly dominating all opponents similar to the Australians of the 2000s.
 
Let Pakistan's miserable game not fool you. Even Bangladesh is better than us these days. India will be tested against top teams.
 
No. They need to find replacements for Dhoni and Yuvraj quickly. If they were still at their peak, India's batting would be even better than 2000s Australia.
 
Sorry but this is far fetched. You are reading too much into a settled strong experienced Indian side vs a younger inexperienced Pakistani side.
 
OTT thread. Indian team is good but they have weakness. Dhoni and Yuvraj could struggle vs Australian and South African attack. Also Rohit and Dhawan are inconsistent.

Indian team has choked in last couple off icc tournaments.
 
Hasan123 said:
OTT thread. Indian team is good but they have weakness. Dhoni and Yuvraj could struggle vs Australian and South African attack. Also Rohit and Dhawan are inconsistent.

Indian team has choked in last couple off icc tournaments.
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Yes they have but I am saying that with the balance they have brought into this champions trophy they have a chance to create a legendary team from here.
 
CricFan2012 said:
Yes they have but I am saying that with the balance they have brought into this champions trophy they have a chance to create a legendary team from here.
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They have good balance but it's not atg team and never will be.

England and Australia are stronger.
 
Hasan123 said:
They have good balance but it's not atg team and never will be.

England and Australia are stronger.
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England are far from India's level. They have a horrible bowling line up.

Australia's only batsmen are Warner and Smith while India has more reliable batsmen.
 
The Australian side had a world class spinner. Couple of world class pace bowlers.

They had a gun a batting side: Gilly Hayden Ponting Clarke Symonds Hussey. And all where world class.

With all due respect India has a lot of weaknesses still.
 
Executioner said:
The Australian side had a world class spinner. Couple of world class pace bowlers.

They had a gun a batting side: Gilly Hayden Ponting Clarke Symonds Hussey. And all where world class.

With all due respect India has a lot of weaknesses still.
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India has 2 world class spinners in Ash and Sir Jadeja.

India has one of the best batting line ups with Dhawan, Rohit, Kl Rahul, Kholi, Jadhav.

Dhoni and Yuvi are the only weaknesses and they'll be gone soon and replaced with better talents and youngsters, great times ahead as an Indian fan.
 
lets be honest Pakistan are minnows in ODIs atm. India are a top class team but nowhere near that level.
 
Lol, chest thumping after abusing a pathetic Pakistan. India has no case of being better than Australia, England and South Africa (minus ICC events).

The current English batting line up is probably the closest thing to that Aussie line up.
 
Let them play proper sides and than judge.

India is a very good team I will not rank them comparable to Aus of 2000.
 
Haz95 said:
Lol, chest thumping after abusing a pathetic Pakistan. India has no case of being better than Australia, England and South Africa (minus ICC events).

The current English batting line up is probably the closest thing to that Aussie line up.
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Bro although bowlers are cannon fodders these days, when conditions are helpful theyll come in use, and here is where India are better than England, better bowlers and variety.
 
CricFan2012 said:
Bro although bowlers are cannon fodders these days, when conditions are helpful theyll come in use, and here is where India are better than England, better bowlers and variety.
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I disagree. Woakes, Wood, Anderson and Rashid are all good ODI bowlers for when the conditons are right.

like you said tho, bowlers anyway are cannon fodder so the best batting line up is what will determine who and what wins. Overall, India may edge out in bowling but the gulf between the batting line ups is quite vast. Modern day ODIs are a slogfest, England are perfectly suited for that with only 1 actual accumulator (who too can also play very when required). India have Rohit, Dhoni and Yuvraj.....
 
Lol.... The match is not even half way yet!

BTW The Aussies of early 2000's won like 90% of all there matches.

India is not even the best ODI side today, let alone anywhere comparable to that Aussie side.
 
Lol no Australia was 2000 was arguably the greatest team ever, current Indian team is not near that but has the potential to be the best ODI team of this era..
 
Not even close.

Australian lineup had Gilchrist, Ponting, Bevan, Mcgrath, Warne and Lee as ATGs and then there were likes of Hayden, Symonds, Gillespie and Martyn all greats of the game.

India are nowhere close.
 
Lets not get too ahead of ourselves.We just won over minnows today, This team still isnt th best team currently leave alone Aussies of 2000.
 
What a joke! India are nowhere near the great Aussie side of the 2000's. The have no world class fast bowlers or spinner for starters. Let them go abroad to places like RSA and Australia even Pak before we start raving about how great they are.
 
Except that Aussies could perform on any kind of track against quality oppositions.
 
Anwar_194 said:
You wish, u will never be like them....Mod plz delete this thread.
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Chill out Bhai, it took couple of hours to make this thread.

just a fluke win by Lanka, nothing else, we will see real team India this Sunday INSHALA!!!1!11
 
[MENTION=131539]CricFan2012[/MENTION]

Be honest, did you even watch cricket in the early 2000's? And to be more specific, have you even bothered watching the highlights of just ONE match of the ealy 2000's XI? Keep deluding yourself but that was the GOAT ODI side of all time and present Indian side is not even the best of its own time..
 
ExpressPacer said:
[MENTION=131539]CricFan2012[/MENTION]

Be honest, did you even watch cricket in the early 2000's? And to be more specific, have you even bothered watching the highlights of just ONE match of the ealy 2000's XI? Keep deluding yourself but that was the GOAT ODI side of all time and present Indian side is not even the best of its own time..
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Indeed I did watch those matches, which is why I am confidently making this statement bhai
 
CricFan2012 said:
With sub 40 average batsmen in our team along with the ATG Virat Kholi there is no doubt that this batting line up matches up with the great Australians. Dhawan, Rohit, Rahul, Kholi are all comparable to Gilchrist, Hayden, Ponting, Bevan.

The bowling is lining up well and improving day by day. Fast bowlers are reaching new heights as Bhuvi, Yadav and Shami consistently hit 140+ They always come out with a plan backed by the agile and swift fielding. Spinners also play an important role and this is where India might better the Aussies, as we have spinners capable of wreaking havoc in the subcontinent.

India have dominated world cricket since the 2011 cricket World Cup but now, starting with this Pakistan match, it seems like team India will be ruthlessly dominating all opponents similar to the Australians of the 2000s.
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Bro sorry to wake you up but Rohit,Dhawan,Ashwin,Dhoni,Yuvraj all are above 30 and can play max maybe 5 6 years more
Virat is around 28 29 and might play till 40
Plus your bowling is v inconsistent and will be thrashed by good attacks even Lanka did a good job!
 
CricFan2012 said:
Chill out Bhai, it took couple of hours to make this thread.

just a fluke win by Lanka, nothing else, we will see real team India this Sunday INSHALA!!!1!11
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Close wins can be flukes but don't think you can call comfortably chasing down 320+ while only losing 3 wickets a fluke.
 
Never compare this Indian team with one of the greatest sides to ever play cricket.
 
Strongly disagree. England r miles ahead of any team at the min and india will struggle a lot against the other top 4 teams and even bagladesh will give them a run for their money. The fear factor is not there with india and thts due to their bowling ... bangladesh won against this same team, england gave then nailbitters in last series [MENTION=1451]Indian[/MENTION] soil. They have a loooooong way to go to make this claim
 
MilkyWay said:
Strongly disagree. England r miles ahead of any team at the min and india will struggle a lot against the other top 4 teams and even bagladesh will give them a run for their money. The fear factor is not there with india and thts due to their bowling ... bangladesh won against this same team, england gave then nailbitters in last series [MENTION=1451]Indian[/MENTION] soil. They have a loooooong way to go to make this claim
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Sorry but India are not that bad to lose to BD...Bangladesh is the weakest of all 8 teams at the moment.
 
Its a funny thread. I dont know why Indian fans are so fascinated with pace, having bowlers who can ball over 140 kph is good but their quality matter as well.

2000's Australia had Mcgrath (Mid 135 kph but was a legend of the game), had Brett Lee and Jason Gillispie and Warne as a spinner. India doesnt have a single bowler close to the caliber of any of stated above. If you are into numbers look at the stats of the current indian bowlers and compare them with the bowlers of Australia of 2000's.
 
Their bowling is no where near that attack, lol. As far as batting is concerned, they are flat track bullies, especially in Tests. No comparison at all. That was the best team of all time. Won 3 World Cups in a row, which is not a joke. In future, only Pakistan will be able to surpass that team.
 
Ultimate said:
Their bowling is no where near that attack, lol. As far as batting is concerned, they are flat track bullies, especially in Tests. No comparison at all. That was the best team of all time. Won 3 World Cups in a row, which is not a joke. In future, only Pakistan will be able to surpass that team.
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Fans go ballistic after every team win and loss. It's either the best ever team or the worst. It's either xxx is all time great or worst player ever to set foot in team

Why can't we enjoy cricket as a game and not some scripted movie where hero always wins.

Win and losses should be accepted with equal measure.
 
India is probably competing for the 5th best current ODI team in the world.
 
That Aussie team all but smashed teams home and away, won 3 world cups without being beaten on the trot. This Indian team is nowhere near it. :))
 
OP has no idea of how Australia used to ruthlessly beat teams for fun in that era. Another funny thread.
 
This generation of Indian players are the 2nd best ODI unit ever.

After Aus 99-08.
Counting from CT 2013 although WC11 has many carry thru players linking the eras. It is the Dhoni generation.
They are fearless, gifted, organized and mentally strong. This CT is probably theirs and the WC19 too.
 
Bhai tu jara match khatam hone ke liye toh ruk ja, uske baad jitna compliment dena hai de dena. Poora forum flood kar dena India ki taarifo se.
 
czar said:
Bhai tu jara match khatam hone ke liye toh ruk ja, uske baad jitna compliment dena hai de dena. Poora forum flood kar dena India ki taarifo se.
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Understand some Urdu as have many Pk friends. I made 1 thread bhai.
 
What did I tell you friends?

After this champions trophy India will propel themselves into an unbeatable unit, especially in ICC events.

They just need to win this final, then we can all safely say that this team is just as good if not better than the 2000s Aussies.
 
Not really, that Australian side was invincible, India are a good ODI and T-20 side but i am still not sold on their bowling unit to be honest.
 
CricFan2012 said:
What did I tell you friends?

After this champions trophy India will propel themselves into an unbeatable unit, especially in ICC events.

They just need to win this final, then we can all safely say that this team is just as good if not better than the 2000s Aussies.
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How many away tests and ODI series have you guys won to make this tall claim?

Even in this tournament a rookie team like SL had a convincing win against you guys.

This tournent win is the most easiest ICC trophy Indian team has ever fluked.
Having Pakistan and SA in the same group one is ranked 8 and other is renowned chokers in crunch game then you guys had BD in the semi final and now meet Pak again whose strength are more against a non subcontient team esp the spin trio.

This will be a false hope if you are really dreaming India to be new Aus of 2000.
 
CricFan2012 said:
What did I tell you friends?

After this champions trophy India will propel themselves into an unbeatable unit, especially in ICC events.

They just need to win this final, then we can all safely say that this team is just as good if not better than the 2000s Aussies.
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You are just wrong

Guys like Hussey, McGill and Harris could not get into that side, all 3 would walk into Indias side and pretty much every other side in the world
 
Amazing how an immature comment can have a thread this long. Gilchrist as an opener was shredding the top bowlers to pieces and we have people arguing to a kid I guess.
 
CricVet said:
Amazing how an immature comment can have a thread this long. Gilchrist as an opener was shredding the top bowlers to pieces and we have people arguing to a kid I guess.
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Brother, I watched Gilchrist live. Decent keeper, Dhoni is however better
 
The Aussie side of the 2000s won everywhere and the quality of sides everywhere was better. India still gets trounced outside the subcontinent - there is no comparison.
 
India is very good , but that Australian Team was different level. Winning three consecutive WC is no joke ?
 
Australia is Australia. Even in 2015 they destroyed every team in the world cup. That was just two years ago.

Ind batting has always been good but bowling is no where near the likes of Starc, mitchell johnson, Hazlewood, etc.
 
bujhee kom said:
Not in Tests mind you as they are home bullies, but in ODIs this is an ATG team.
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Australia destroyed this team two years ago in World Cup.

If not for rain pretty sure they wouldve beaten India in Semis. Australia is a different breed in crunch games unlike BD. Hell even SL destroyed this current ATG team.

However its true that current Ind ODI is one of the best no doubt.
 
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CricFan2012 said:
With sub 40 average batsmen in our team along with the ATG Virat Kholi there is no doubt that this batting line up matches up with the great Australians. Dhawan, Rohit, Rahul, Kholi are all comparable to Gilchrist, Hayden, Ponting, Bevan.

The bowling is lining up well and improving day by day. Fast bowlers are reaching new heights as Bhuvi, Yadav and Shami consistently hit 140+ They always come out with a plan backed by the agile and swift fielding. Spinners also play an important role and this is where India might better the Aussies, as we have spinners capable of wreaking havoc in the subcontinent.

India have dominated world cricket since the 2011 cricket World Cup but now, starting with this Pakistan match, it seems like team India will be ruthlessly dominating all opponents similar to the Australians of the 2000s.
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No they are not....how many test series did india win abroad?
 
muqarrab said:
No they are not....how many test series did india win abroad?
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Not many compared to the Aussies but they are getting there, I assure you.

Anyways I was only talking bout ODIs, tests are extremely overrated and boring, awful ambassador for cricket, will be extinct anyways in the next few decades, good riddance.
 
Didn't this extremely well settled Indian team lose to Bangladesh in Bangladesh in 2015?
 
CricFan2012 said:
What did I tell you friends?

After this champions trophy India will propel themselves into an unbeatable unit, especially in ICC events.

They just need to win this final, then we can all safely say that this team is just as good if not better than the 2000s Aussies.
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India already lost to SL in this CT, lost to Australia in WC. Australia has an unbeaten run in like 2 or 3 world cups.
 
Savak said:
Didn't this extremely well settled Indian team lose to Bangladesh in Bangladesh in 2015?
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That was 2015 bro, and the fizz was brand new to the scene, was like when Mendis wreaked havoc when he made his debut.
 
I might have missed the part where India won three world cups in a row.
 
Don't think so, this India team is beatable if you get out their top 3 cheaply (which doesn't happen very often but still) and their bowling is definitely not as good as that Australian bowling lineup. Also, I don't see them winning consecutive ICC tournaments in a row or staying unbeaten as long as the Australian team did in WC's.
 
CricFan2012 said:
That was 2015 bro, and the fizz was brand new to the scene, was like when Mendis wreaked havoc when he made his debut.
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Regardless, the true ranking i would give this Indian team is top 3-4 but not 1. Don't have the quality to excel in England, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa as far as test matches are concerned.
 
This India side has the POTENTIAL to be like AUS but that's a long way away. In LO cricket they have to win more World cups and win them consistently and the Test game abroad needs to return to 2007-2010 level. Even then, you'd have to admit there was something VERY special about the AUS side from late 90s to to mid 00s that I can't see being replicated. Welcome to be proven wrong though!
 
No way, not even close.

If they had won the last World Cup maybe you could say they were getting there but they didn't.
 
The 2000s Australian team would walk all over India with all due respect.

1) Multiple ATG batsmen (Hayden, Ponting, Bevan)
2) Multiple ATG fast bowlers (Mcgrath, Lee)
3) Greatest wicketkeeper of all time (Gilly)
4) Greatest leg spinner of all time (Warne + Macgill in reserves)

It's not even close.
 
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