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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a humble man Rahul Dravid is - speaking about how the win should be about the players & not him & how the focus should be on the great work the players have done rather than himself <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/U19CWC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#U19CWC</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/959703567463481344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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The humility after a win and the manner in which he has praised his players is a lesson for many of our coaches.
 
Meanwhile in our main side we have Shastri. ::J
 
Rahul Dravid is a cricketing genius.
Some people always keep on ranting that he gets 5 crores and all that but he is getting you results and turning rough diamonds into finely polished Jewels.
A brilliant coach and person.
 
Rahul Dravid is a cricketing genius.
Some people always keep on ranting that he gets 5 crores and all that but he is getting you results and turning rough diamonds into finely polished Jewels.
A brilliant coach and person.

BCCI should also get some pat on the back for scheduling a number of game for the U19 team to play. It would have been easy for them to just organise nets and camps and be done with it.
 
If the gentleman's game had a human body, it would be Rahul Dravid.
 
BCCI should also get some pat on the back for scheduling a number of game for the U19 team to play. It would have been easy for them to just organise nets and camps and be done with it.

The fact is Rahul has all the authority and he is Boss himself and credit must go to BCCI for that, they didn't peek into his business and allowed him to do whatever he wanted.

He played a masterstroke by not selecting players for U19 Asia Cup and rather asking them to play in 4 day domestic matches.
 
Only a matter of time before Dravid is the head coach of the senior side.

Meanwhile in Pakistan our former players sit on tv talking nonsense.
 
Only a matter of time before Dravid is the head coach of the senior side.

Meanwhile in Pakistan our former players sit on tv talking nonsense.

Not really, he doesn't seem to want that job. He was the coach selection committee's first choice, heck he was bcci's first choice there wouldn't have been any interview nonsense if dravid accepted the job, but he didn't want to, this was just a job to keep him in the loop in case he changes his mind in time.
 
BCCI gets a lot of stick but it is doing all the right things. There is a lot of focus on test cricket, junior level cricket and the domestic cricket. The grass-root is very strong now.
 
Makes you think if our ex senior players are made coach for u19, would it hurt their ego?
 
Only a matter of time before Dravid is the head coach of the senior side.

Meanwhile in Pakistan our former players sit on tv talking nonsense.

Yeah, I don't think any high profile coach is going to be interested in touching the Indian job, unless a serious amount of money is offered. Don't think Dravid would be interested in the job, certainly not with the current caveats.
 
India could start with taking Dravid as the batting coach for England tour. Bangar is just useless.
 
Majid Khan could have done this job sometime ago but too late.

YK for all his talk of being approachable etc is the guy but not sure what is stopping him .
 
Dravid was never a part of off field controversy during his playing career. Not to forget he was known as the team man, a perfect role model for the younger cricketers to emulate. YK with all his shenanigans off field and controversies surrounding him wouldn't command the same respect from youngsters.
 
Dravid was never a part of off field controversy during his playing career. Not to forget he was known as the team man, a perfect role model for the younger cricketers to emulate. YK with all his shenanigans off field and controversies surrounding him wouldn't command the same respect from youngsters.

Actually he does command respect from youngsters. There are countless interviews pointing exactly that. The only problem with YK is his ego: he won't settle for a position of a lower level than Selector, Director etc for the senior team.

He also has a poor record in ODIs, so I doubt he will have the same impact as Rahul Dravid, but that can only be tested once he takes the job.
 
Well India won U 19 WC three times before as well, never saw this much hullaballo for the coach before. More hero worshipping in Indian cricket and I like Dravid.. but this is nonsense. Credit goes first and foremost to the players and then the entire support staff, not just the head coach.
 
Well India won U 19 WC three times before as well, never saw this much hullaballo for the coach before. More hero worshipping in Indian cricket and I like Dravid.. but this is nonsense. Credit goes first and foremost to the players and then the entire support staff, not just the head coach.

Been a tough last few weeks for you, hasn't it. We feel you :))
 
India is not lucky.. that's called proper planing and a bigger vision for the sport.

We on the other hand still trying to figure out how to include the akmals in the team.. enuff said!!!
 
Indeed. Compare Dravid to the egoistic ex cricketers Pakistan has employed as coaches like Miandad, Waqar.
 
Dravid and Gavaskar are the best ambassadors of Indian cricket - PERIOD. Have done more for Indian cricket than anyone else.

Dravid through his career was humble and respectful. His 2012 performance in England was the stuff of legends as were his post match conferences. In fact, his words after CT17 final, praising Pakistan, simply solidified the greatness radiating from Dravid, unlike other retired Indian players who changed their focus towards Hockey on the day.

This is a great win for Dravid.

However, if India is lucky to have Dravid, does this mean India fluked it? (Luck - Fluke after all!)

Well done Dravid.
 
Makes you think if our ex senior players are made coach for u19, would it hurt their ego?

Apart from hurting their egos, they are going to destroy the careers of youngsters based on personal likes and dislikes.
 
Kohli is too toxic for Dravid to handle. Will turn out like his ODI captiancy .

Dravid is doing much better at this level. He'll get to work with fresher talent every 2-3 years and help fine tune them for international cricket .
 
Well India won U 19 WC three times before as well, never saw this much hullaballo for the coach before. More hero worshipping in Indian cricket and I like Dravid.. but this is nonsense. Credit goes first and foremost to the players and then the entire support staff, not just the head coach.

Bhai, we celebrate these small happy events. How bitter are you? Feel sorry for you.
 
Bhai, we celebrate these small happy events. How bitter are you? Feel sorry for you.

It's not about small happy events. Putting one person on the pedestal for the success of the team is grossly unfair to the support staff and the players. Seeing the headlines, you would think that without Dravid India would have lost all games in this WC or something. Sure, he deserves the applause as well but not as more than the actual players and members of the support staff.
 
It's not about small happy events. Putting one person on the pedestal for the success of the team is grossly unfair to the support staff and the players. Seeing the headlines, you would think that without Dravid India would have lost all games in this WC or something. Sure, he deserves the applause as well but not as more than the actual players and members of the support staff.

Agree. Dravid as a coach was pretty avg during 2017 IPL for his side. (kept on changing players after good performance and those kids were 18 - 19 year old). I saw too many flaws in dravid's coaching ability though i didn't follow this u19 wc from close so can't comment on it. But i can say He was pretty avg coach in IPL side.
 
Dravid is a gentleman. A true ambassador of the game. Out of all Indian cricketers - Dravid and Dhoni are the most likeable. A great achievement for Dravid an co.
 
Why are people dropping YK's name again and again? Not once have I heard Misbah's name for coaching a junior team? I think Misbah would be an excellent mentor. No?
 
Not really, he doesn't seem to want that job. He was the coach selection committee's first choice, heck he was bcci's first choice there wouldn't have been any interview nonsense if dravid accepted the job, but he didn't want to, this was just a job to keep him in the loop in case he changes his mind in time.

He will be in the job at some point. It won't be too long.
 
It's not about small happy events. Putting one person on the pedestal for the success of the team is grossly unfair to the support staff and the players. Seeing the headlines, you would think that without Dravid India would have lost all games in this WC or something. Sure, he deserves the applause as well but not as more than the actual players and members of the support staff.

Agree. Dravid as a coach was pretty avg during 2017 IPL for his side. (kept on changing players after good performance and those kids were 18 - 19 year old). I saw too many flaws in dravid's coaching ability though i didn't follow this u19 wc from close so can't comment on it. But i can say He was pretty avg coach in IPL side.

You guys have absolutely no idea how good a coach Dravid is. Go and ask Sanju Samson. He'll tell you. The positive effect a mentor like Dravid can have on a young team is HUGE.

Too many flaws in his coaching?lol. Who are you?
 
All this talk about a Kohli/Dravid combination not working is academic because Dravid won’t be appointed India coach in the next 2-3 years anyway. When/if Dravid gets the top job Kohli will be retired or in the last year or two of his career.
 
All this talk about a Kohli/Dravid combination not working is academic because Dravid won’t be appointed India coach in the next 2-3 years anyway. When/if Dravid gets the top job Kohli will be retired or in the last year or two of his career.

Kohli easily have another 6-7 years of competitive cricket left him in.
 
It is no surprise that Rahul has helped India to become chanpions and potentially given Indians 3-4 new players who maybe in the next couple of years be in the national team. He is a down to earth and very humble man.n
 
Kohli-Dravid combo won't work at Intl level but Rahane-Dravid could be a good pair.

Rahane doesn't have the personality of a leader and I don't think he would be able to handle the pressure. His struggles versus spin are leaving serious doubts about place in the test team and his struggles in LO cricket are well known. So he shouldn't be considered for captaincy. Posters on this forum are reading too much into 1 good captaincy performance versus Australia.
 
Rahane doesn't have the personality of a leader and I don't think he would be able to handle the pressure. His struggles versus spin are leaving serious doubts about place in the test team and his struggles in LO cricket are well known. So he shouldn't be considered for captaincy. Posters on this forum are reading too much into 1 good captaincy performance versus Australia.

Ind is doing good in all 3 formats; why fix something which ain't broke:kohli2
 
Rahul clearly uncomfortable with the attention he has been generating

Stressing importance of having a good domestic system in place

Asking the u19 players to forget about the win after a few days and focus of domestic cricket
 
Ind is doing good in all 3 formats; why fix something which ain't broke:kohli2

We know it will break eventually. Only Kohli is dependable as a batsman in Tests . In ODIs it is him , Dhawan and Rohit. T20s , I don't care.
 
Dravid was never a part of off field controversy during his playing career. Not to forget he was known as the team man, a perfect role model for the younger cricketers to emulate. YK with all his shenanigans off field and controversies surrounding him wouldn't command the same respect from youngsters.

as Watson use to say if you can't get along with Dravid, their is something seriously wrong with ur life.
 
We know it will break eventually. Only Kohli is dependable as a batsman in Tests . In ODIs it is him , Dhawan and Rohit. T20s , I don't care.
Seriously Kohli only dependable batsman in test, every time we have a difficult spinning pitch it is ChePu who stood up, Australian series was a good eg of who actually played well on difficult conditions in india that was rahul and pujara, against pace Kohli has always been decent except England, but rahane, Vijay except the SA series have generally been great. Don't know where this lone great player nonsense comes from.

Odi's is all on the top 3 but that is as much on Kohli as the team. Get Dhoni off the team and bring likes of pant or Samson in and give them a long run, same with rubbish like jadhav, karthik even rahane bring in rahul and pandey and give them a good run. We are poor because the captain and his lackey coach have their favorites and lack the balls to ask a clearly has been great to retire.
 
The fact is Rahul has all the authority and he is Boss himself and credit must go to BCCI for that, they didn't peek into his business and allowed him to do whatever he wanted.

He played a masterstroke by not selecting players for U19 Asia Cup and rather asking them to play in 4 day domestic matches.

He was also a strict disciplinarian. The youngsters were not allowed to indulge in social media as the early praises might go to their heads. There was a talented all rounder who was a shoo in to the U19 team but was not allowed because of disciplinary issues. A brilliant mentor and an asset to have.
 
U-19 World Cup: How Rahul Dravid's Single-Mindedness Rubbed Off On India's Budding Stars

Rahul Dravid, former India captain, used all his experience and command to keep the youngsters focussed on the job at hand.

Rahul Dravid, during his playing days, was known for his sheer grit, dealing with tough situations like the thorough professional that he is. Whether he was scoring runs or not, Dravid never let his emotions get the better of him. Surely, some of the characteristics of the great man rubbed off on the youngsters who made history by taking India to a record fourth ICC Under-19 World Cup title. However, before the quarter-final against Bangladesh, Dravid faced his biggest test as the coach of the team -- the big IPL auction.

As many as nine India U-19 players who were involved in the World Cup in New Zealand were set to go under the hammer and all this before a World Cup quarterfinal. Getting an IPL contract is a big deal and it's an even bigger deal if you are a teenager still looking to make a name.

However, Dravid, who has been part of six IPL auctions as a player and four as part of the team management, quickly saw the dangers posed by the auction.

He made it clear to his boys that an auction will come every year but a chance of playing in a World Cup semi-final is not something that happens too often.

"The auction is not something the boys can control. One or two auctions won't really have a long-term impact on their careers," Dravid was quoted as saying by ESPNCricinfo before the quarterfinal against Bangladesh.

"There is an auction every year, but not every year will they have an opportunity to play for India in possibly a World Cup semi-final. That doesn't come very often.

"We've been here for three weeks and we couldn't have asked for better preparation from the boys. They've been superb. We talked about the auction once and we said let's keep that out of our minds."

The words must have had a lasting effect on the players. India had lost to Bangladesh in the Asia Cup but showed no signs of letting history repeat itself as they went about their business in typical Rahul Dravid style.

Batting first, India scored 265 to put up a decent total on the board. The Indian bowlers then came to the party and bowled out Bangladesh for a paltry 134 to register an emphatic 131-run win.

Up next was a World Cup semi-final against arch-rivals Pakistan. An India-Pakistan game at any level creates a buzz and Dravid certainly knows a thing or two about playing Pakistan.

Instead of downplaying the match-up, Dravid spoke of the experience this would be for the Indian youngsters and focussed on the positives of playing against Pakistan.

"I'm excited about it, the fact that, irrespective of the results, we get our Under-19 boys to understand what it's like to play an India-Pakistan game. At this level, all it is about is about experiences," Dravid had said before the match.

"It's great that we've been able to, in a way, set up to have an India-Pakistan game as well. There is a different buzz about it in the sense that we know that the game is followed probably a little bit more closely than some of the other games we have.

"For the last couple of years, we haven't played Pakistan at this level, so it's really nice for our boys to have that experience of actually playing against Pakistan," Dravid said.

What followed was a complete rout as India steamrolled Pakistan by a whopping 203 runs to march into the final. Former Pakistan legends immediately realised the impact of Dravid in the team.

"I am impressed with the temperament shown by some of the Indian players. Rahul Dravid deserves lot of credit for preparing and grooming them so effectively," Ramiz Raja said.

"We need to have give someone charge for a proper time period like India has done with Rahul Dravid," he added.

Up next was the big finale against Australia and Dravid's boys didn't disappoint as they completely outclassed the Australians to script history.

Following India's win, Dravid again had some wise words for the young champions -- don't let this memory define you. The Under-19 players will do well to heed his advice.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/und...ss-rubbed-off-on-indias-budding-stars-1808345
 
Seriously Kohli only dependable batsman in test, every time we have a difficult spinning pitch it is ChePu who stood up, Australian series was a good eg of who actually played well on difficult conditions in india that was rahul and pujara, against pace Kohli has always been decent except England, but rahane, Vijay except the SA series have generally been great. Don't know where this lone great player nonsense comes from.

Odi's is all on the top 3 but that is as much on Kohli as the team. Get Dhoni off the team and bring likes of pant or Samson in and give them a long run, same with rubbish like jadhav, karthik even rahane bring in rahul and pandey and give them a good run. We are poor because the captain and his lackey coach have their favorites and lack the balls to ask a clearly has been great to retire.
Pujara scoring only in India and not abroad is the exact example of not dependable. He is a certified failure abroad. And most of the upcoming serieses are abroad. You need an all condition batsman .
 
Pujara scoring only in India and not abroad is the exact example of not dependable. He is a certified failure abroad. And most of the upcoming serieses are abroad. You need an all condition batsman .

Don't disagree with the fact that he isn't a great batsman outside India but he is good enough, show me innings where Kohli played well on a difficult turning track that is almost always left to pujara.
 
Don't disagree with the fact that he isn't a great batsman outside India but he is good enough, show me innings where Kohli played well on a difficult turning track that is almost always left to pujara.

There are examples of Kohli. But I am not bothering to give proof. You seem like a Pujara fan.
 
There are examples of Kohli. But I am not bothering to give proof. You seem like a Pujara fan.

I am, but I like Kohli too. You can't show eg's because there aren't many, fact is you called Indian test team a one man show but it is far from that, it isn't a fab 4 era batting lineup but it isn't one person dependant either. Pujara and rahul can play on tough spinning tracks where Kohli and others aren't as good while Kohli, rahane are great on pacy ones with others looking not so great.
 
I am, but I like Kohli too. You can't show eg's because there aren't many, fact is you called Indian test team a one man show but it is far from that, it isn't a fab 4 era batting lineup but it isn't one person dependant either. Pujara and rahul can play on tough spinning tracks where Kohli and others aren't as good while Kohli, rahane are great on pacy ones with others looking not so great.

Ok sir. Whatever you say
 
Only Kohli is dependable as a batsman in Tests.

LoL! Kohli is anything but dependable in Test.Kohli is our most complete batsmen not dependable.
Kohli wouldn't be averaging over 50 right now if it wasn't for that home series against Sri lanka(IMO that series should've been cancelled).While Pujara has been averaging over 50 for most part of his career.
 
There are examples of Kohli. But I am not bothering to give proof. You seem like a Pujara fan.

You want proof.Let's look at all the tough series at home(From batsmen perspective) and series with most tough pitches.

1 Australia vs India(2017)-: Best Batsmen of the world Smith was also Best batsmen of the series and Best Indian batsmen at that time Pujara was also best Indian batsmen in that series.On the other hand,Kohli was WORST batsmen of the series.Even Starc and M marsh performed better than kohli.

2 England vs India(2012)-:Here again Pujara was hit and Kohli was flop.

3 SA vs India(2015)-:on difficult pitches(1st and 3rd test) Vijay and Pujara scored runs while Kohli failed.
Kohli only scored in dead rubber test and on a flat pitch along with Rahane(Goat player of spin)

4 Australia vs India(2013)-: It was also important series because we were
just humiliated by England at home.Here again,Pujara was our best batsmen and Dhoni was close second.
Vijay and Dhawan was our 3rd and 4th best batsmen of that series.Dhawan may have scored 187 on flattest track of series(Kohli also scored runs there) but he took
only 175 balls to get there.If it wasn't for Dhawan that match would've been drawn and Whitewash couldn't have been possible.

5 NZ vs India(2016)-:Here again pujara was our best batsmen.Kohli failed in first two test when pitches were more difficult.kohli again scored double hundred on a dead rubber test along with Rahane.
3rd test pitch was flattest of the series.

Pujara is no doubt biggest HTB in the world but in last 6 years he's also proven to be most valuable indian batsmen.
 
Seriously Kohli only dependable batsman in test, every time we have a difficult spinning pitch it is ChePu who stood up, Australian series was a good eg of who actually played well on difficult conditions in india

I value runs in that Australian series(2017) more than run scored in away series like SA(2013),NZ(2014), and obviously Aus(2014) and on par with Eng(2014).India's average score in that England away series(2014) was extremely low.Unfortunately even in that series,kohli was worst batsmen of the series.

India vs Australia(2017) was really terrific series.Arguably Best Test series of this decade involving India.That series had everything whether quality batting,bowling or fielding.Best players from their side rose to the occasion.At the same time overhyped and Over-glorified players nicknamed "king" and "Bowling bradman" were delivered the Reality check.

"Bowling Bradman" was worst spinner of the series and "King" was worst batsmen of the series.
 
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Rahul Dravid’s secret message after India won the Under-19 Cricket World Cup

The Rahul Dravid influence is unmistakable in how the India Under-19 boys went about their job with grace during their World Cup campaign.

While in-your-face attitude is the in-thing in Indian cricket as the youngsters emulate legend-in-making Virat Kohli’s style of celebrations or expressing disappointments, Dravid is from the old school where it was about controlled aggression and respecting your opponent as well.

In what could be his final message to the Class of 2018, Dravid asked the boys to restrain themselves from any act of ugliness while they went about their celebrations after beating Australia in the final on Saturday, it is learnt.

“After the win, Dravid told the boys to cherish the moment. He instructed them not to direct any insult towards anyone. We can celebrate the victory politely also. And the players did exactly as per their coach’s instructions,” said a reliable source privy to the dressing room proceedings. Dravid doesn’t like players having a go at the opponents after winning so he informed his players in advance.

The point was also made by Sachin Tendulkar in his congratulatory message, saying how he was impressed to see the level of discipline that these youngsters had imbibed from Dravid.

“One thing I noticed about the team is that they are disciplined. Dravid himself always placed impetus on discipline and the team has gained from his experience which has been at the highest level,” said Tendulkar.

Sensing the nervousness in the dressing room ahead of the game, Dravid lifed the spirits by pointing out how this day will never be repeated in their careers. “I know you guys must be feeling the heat, now you understand the meaning of the final, but don’t worry, you will get this moment only once in your lifetime.

“Among this batch, few will play IPL, international matches too… and that moment comes in your life regularly… but this moment will never come in your life again. So don’t think anything… just go and play your best.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...t-world-cup/story-eNTaWJMS6cqCQ17UARHI5K.html
 
We didn’t play our number one game in final, says Dravid

Coach Rahul Dravid on Monday said his players did not play their “number one game” in the final of the ICC U-19 World Cup, notwithstanding the eight-wicket drubbing of Australia en route to winning the title.

Dravid, though, promptly added that his team fully deserved the title triumph.

“We did not play our number one game in the finals, that we played in the quarterfinal (versus Bangladesh) and semifinal (against Pakistan). Just the fact that they played the finals was an experience,” Dravid said.

The former India captain was speaking after the team’s arrival in Mumbai from New Zealand where the tournament was held.

“I’m really happy that the 15 boys got to wear World Cup medal. They deserve it. It’s been a lot of sacrifices, the way they played in the World Cup.

“The way they jelled, the quality of cricket they played — all these give you a lot of satisfaction. We were under pressure in a few games, but there were people who stood up and delivered.”

Appreciated process of the team

The batting legend added that the most satisfying part, other than winning the World Cup, was the process the team followed to reach the top.

“The real satisfaction, in my opinion, is the process that was followed over the last 14-16 months, the whole planning and preparation that has gone into, not necessarily for this World Cup, but for developing the U19 players.

“It was great team work, guys behind the scenes, the selectors, NCA, the BCCI setting up games and series. Winning a tournament like this is a good reflection of the team work.”

Dravid cautioned that the real test awaits his young players.

“The challenge and the hard work really start from here, we had couple of conversation on it. When we were there they showed a rerun of the 2012 finals and I started checking upon a few things.

“It is interesting... the result of the final is India beat Australia but six years down the line only one of those boys has played for India while 5-6 of them went on to play for Australia.”

'Dealing with pressure'

He felt a lot will depend on how the young players are managed.

“Talent is there, ability is there, it’s about managing themselves, how to deal with pressure and the expectations that will come as U-19 champions.

“It’s not easy to get into the Indian side. At least if they become good first class cricketers, from then on it becomes a stepping stone to play for India.”

Dravid said the players treated the high-pressure semifinal against arch-foes Pakistan like any other game.

“The boys knew that many people watch it. We played two Asia Cups but we did not play Pakistan, I am happy that they got to know what an India-Pakistan game is about, at the U-19 level.

“The way our boys handled that game, the quality of cricket that we played, the intensity that we showed was commendable and we did not give them a chance to come back.”

Dravid felt these boys should now quit playing age-level cricket, although he said it was his personal view.

“My view is quite well known. I feel that once the boys are good enough they should go on to play men’s cricket, especially those who had played first class cricket.

“Five boys from last year’s World Cup qualified to play this time. But we made a conscious decision not to pick them as I felt it will be better for them to play U-23 cricket and senior men’s cricket.”

It’s been one difficult journey, says Shaw

India Under 19 captain Prithvi Shaw termed his journey from Virar to Mount Maunganui a “difficult” one and said words can never express the emotions that he felt while guiding the Indian U-19 team to World Cup glory.

“Becoming World Cup captain I can’t express in words the feeling and thanks to everyone,” said Shaw, who guided the Indian team to its record fourth World Cup title after beating Australia at Mount Maunganui in the final.

“It was a difficult journey for me starting where I used to live in Virar. All credit to my dad he was the only who took me (everywhere). He used to take me to matches practices and it was far away from my home in Virar.”

Shaw comes from Virar, a small down in Palghar district near Mumbai and the youngster walked down memory lane and retraced his journey from his home town to New Zealand.

“It used to take two hours, the journey from the train and it was difficult in those days. In the past two three years I am working hard to play for India Under 19,” said Shaw, who scored a hundred in Ranji and Duleep Trophy debut.

“It is all about experience, when you are 7-8 years old you start playing school cricket and score runs, my coaches from school level to Rahul Dravid Sir now, all those small, small things, the experiences make a difference.”

Shaw, who scored 261 runs including two fifties during the tournament, said his team executed the plans to perfection and he is extremely proud of them.

“I am very happy and proud, I played a lot of school cricket and scored heavily there and then the Ranji Trophy but when we represent India, it’s a different feeling,” Shaw told reporter here after the team’s arrival.

“And yes we have brought the World Cup back and everybody, including the support staff, has worked hard for last more than one year. The way we planned it, it was well executed on the ground and hence we lifted the World Cup,” said Shaw.

http://www.thehindu.com/sport/crick...in-final-says-dravid/article22660822.ece/amp/
 
Shouldn't you be proud of Dravid, as he said the focus should be on the players and not the coach, with all humility? He didn't want to take the credit, rather was praising his players and said that they deserved the full credit for victory.
 
One of the best things about Dravid is that he doesnt focus on the wins or tournaments. At this levels its all about player development and process. Its about learning positive aspects like how to improve yourself, that will stick around for the rest of your life.

Of course, a win is important, but that not make or break. On the other hand, the Pakistani coaching staff seems to be more focussed on not winning the trophy or the loss to India. Its clear which teams cricketers will have a greater chance of success in the long run, and that has nothing to do with talent.
 
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One thing to keep in mind is that Dravid is getting paid good money for this.

He isnt sacrificing any financial gains through U19 coaching
 
One thing to keep in mind is that Dravid is getting paid good money for this.

He isnt sacrificing any financial gains through U19 coaching

That is hardly the point of this thread. Point is you can pay anyone any amount of money but at the end of the day - is he adding value to end product.
 
That is hardly the point of this thread. Point is you can pay anyone any amount of money but at the end of the day - is he adding value to end product.

I know but Im speaking from a Pakistani perspective.

A lot of the narrative here in recent days has been ' 'Look at Rahul Dravid coaching the U19 team. Our legends would never do the same because they won't sacrifice the money and spotlight!'
 
One thing to keep in mind is that Dravid is getting paid good money for this.

He isnt sacrificing any financial gains through U19 coaching

No, he isn't sacrificing much financially. But if you compare that with lets say, his Pakistani counterpart, what has he had to sacrifice? Did his Pakistani counterpart have a lucrative gig in the PSL?

So, its not like the Pakistani coach had much to sacrifice. If anything, I would have thought that coaching Pakistani U19 team would earn him a great reward. Dravid on the other hand would have still earned a similar amount in IPL.

Having said that, as I said, its not about winning. Its about learning. Even if India doesnt win, its not a big deal. The question is what have the players learned.
 
No, he isn't sacrificing much financially. But if you compare that with lets say, his Pakistani counterpart, what has he had to sacrifice? Did his Pakistani counterpart have a lucrative gig in the PSL?

So, its not like the Pakistani coach had much to sacrifice. If anything, I would have thought that coaching Pakistani U19 team would earn him a great reward. Dravid on the other hand would have still earned a similar amount in IPL.
Thats my point

Dravid could pick India U19 over IPL or media work and he probably wouldnt be worse off financially.

But any Pakistani coach who is offered a PSL gig or some good media work will definitely lose financially if he works for Pak U19 instead. That is precisely why you do not see a high-profile name in the coaching seat
 
Thats my point

Dravid could pick India U19 over IPL or media work and he probably wouldnt be worse off financially.

But any Pakistani coach who is offered a PSL gig or some good media work will definitely lose financially if he works for Pak U19 instead. That is precisely why you do not see a high-profile name in the coaching seat

Everyone talks about sachinistas but Dravid has a legion of fans who are super quick to take umbrage if any motive is attributed to him lest it tarnish the halo around him.
 
Thats my point

Dravid could pick India U19 over IPL or media work and he probably wouldnt be worse off financially.

But any Pakistani coach who is offered a PSL gig or some good media work will definitely lose financially if he works for Pak U19 instead. That is precisely why you do not see a high-profile name in the coaching seat

Tbf, he gets paid 5 crore for u19 + India A.

Though you then have to give credit to BCCI here for making the youth development as important as IPL, in financial terms at least. If PCB can make youth coaching as financially rewarding as a PSL gig, then at least the finances would not be an excuse for taking this gig.
 
One thing to keep in mind is that Dravid is getting paid good money for this.

He isnt sacrificing any financial gains through U19 coaching

Dravid could have made more or atleast the same via IPL contracts and commentary stints but he chose coaching the U 19 team despite being offered the senior teams coaching position.
 
Thats my point

Dravid could pick India U19 over IPL or media work and he probably wouldnt be worse off financially.

But any Pakistani coach who is offered a PSL gig or some good media work will definitely lose financially if he works for Pak U19 instead. That is precisely why you do not see a high-profile name in the coaching seat

Difference being Dravid could earn that sort of money in two months from IPL and probably more if he decided to coach senior team.
 
Thats my point

Dravid could pick India U19 over IPL or media work and he probably wouldnt be worse off financially.

But any Pakistani coach who is offered a PSL gig or some good media work will definitely lose financially if he works for Pak U19 instead. That is precisely why you do not see a high-profile name in the coaching seat

I agree, people here are not getting your point. Even the Pakistan senior team coach gets one-fourth of what Dravid gets as Indian U19 coach, so the difference in salary structure is HUGE. If you compare PAK senior team coach vs IND senior team coach the difference in salary will be 6X-7X.
 
Difference being Dravid could earn that sort of money in two months from IPL and probably more if he decided to coach senior team.

Not to counter him but IPL/ senior teams will not listen much to coaches, they play minimal role. Coaching juniors helps us in building strong grass root structure and it gives a job satisfaction to people like Dravid where their inputs are valued and put to use.
 
Not to counter him but IPL/ senior teams will not listen much to coaches, they play minimal role. Coaching juniors helps us in building strong grass root structure and it gives a job satisfaction to people like Dravid where their inputs are valued and put to use.

The point is not many players of Dravid's stature would be willing to sweat it out with under 19 and A players when they can get same or probably more money by airing their views for different broadcasters sitting in an air conditioned room. If players in the senior team wont listen to a legend like Dravid, then I doubt they would listen to any coach. As you said, Dravid is helping build strong grass root structure and these youngsters should be thanking their stars that they are getting the opportunity to refine their game under Dravid's tutelage.
 
Shouldn't you be proud of Dravid, as he said the focus should be on the players and not the coach, with all humility? He didn't want to take the credit, rather was praising his players and said that they deserved the full credit for victory.

That Dravid is having to make such a statement is only a reflection of how immature the Indian public and media are.

At the end of the day, a coach can only do so much. It is players who play games, score runs, and take wickets, and the credit must go primarily to them.
 
The point is not many players of Dravid's stature would be willing to sweat it out with under 19 and A players when they can get same or probably more money by airing their views for different broadcasters sitting in an air conditioned room. If players in the senior team wont listen to a legend like Dravid, then I doubt they would listen to any coach. As you said, Dravid is helping build strong grass root structure and these youngsters should be thanking their stars that they are getting the opportunity to refine their game under Dravid's tutelage.

Listening is different from actually putting them to use anyway as we age we are less receptive to advice/ changes be it from anyone. I don't think Rohit/ Kohli or Dhoni will change anything if Sachin is our batting coach.
 
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