India ranked 4th worst in religious hostilities, slightly better than Syria: Study

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A research by Pew has ranked India fourth worst – after Syria, Nigeria and Iraq – in religious hostilities in the world in 2015.

Afghanistan ranked at number 8 and Pakistan at 10. Along with Israel, Yemen, Russia, Afghanistan, the Palestinian territories and Egypt, these countries fall in the very high social hostilities category with scores 7.2 and higher.

Katayoun Kishi, the lead researcher on the study, told Huffington Post India that Hindu-Muslim hostility played a role in India’s rank.

“One of the indicators in the Social Hostilities Index looks at whether incidents of violence occurred as a result of tensions between religious groups. In India in 2015, there were instances of attacks by Hindus on Muslims due to alleged cow slaughter, rioting after clashes between Hindus and Muslims, and mob violence involving the two groups.”

Government restrictions on religion in India are rated as "high" and increased over 2014 but were lower than for previous years. These include government interference in religion practice or proselytising, government hostility to minority religions and government inaction on complaints of discrimination. Government restrictions on religious practice in India were largely directed towards minorities, Ms. Kishi said. "Much of the government restrictions were aimed at non-Hindus in India. For example, the ban on cow slaughter impacted Muslims during Eid al-Adha, and Christians complained about a lack of police action after incidents of religiously-motivated violence towards them," she said.

https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/world/india-ranked-4th-worst-in-religious-hostilities-study/

http://m.huffingtonpost.in/2017/04/...-ranked-just-slightly-better-than_a_22037994/

 

[Arham_PakFan]

The top 10 countries on that list aren't surprising at all.

 

[Rafa]

Apt ranking for India. Most violent country in the SC too.

 

[tomato]

Is triple talak matter also included in the research?There is some lines like most restrictions are applied mainly on minorities so where does TTT falls? Church bells/Azhan also allowed throughout country without any restrictions.

Also there are restrictions like Alcohol ban in few states which is consumed mostly by Hindus

 

[Dios]

This is for 2015. I'd imagine conditions have worsened since.

 

[Buffet]

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India is high up there in social hostilities & China is high up there in government restriction. That's 1/3rd of humanity for us. Hopefully, things get better in future.

 

[troodon]

India has 800 million Hindus, 200 million Muslims, 30 million Christians, 20 million Sikhs, 10 million Jains...........

Add to all these religions, the rampant poverty. People seek refuge in religion hoping God will some how get them out of their misery. Everyone starts believing their God is the best. Politicians exploit this to the core.


No wonder India is at the top of the list.

Interestingly, overwhelming majority of youth in cities at least are agnostic or Athiest. They don't care about religion unless it is marriage. The small towns, villages which host the bulk of the population are riddled with religion and superstition.

No hope for India at least for another few decades.

 

[tomato]

India has 800 million Hindus, 200 million Muslims, 30 million Christians, 20 million Sikhs, 10 million Jains...........

Add to all these religions, the rampant poverty. People seek refuge in religion hoping God will some how get them out of their misery. Everyone starts believing their God is the best. Politicians exploit this to the core.


No wonder India is at the top of the list.

Interestingly, overwhelming majority of youth in cities at least are agnostic or Athiest. They don't care about religion unless it is marriage. The small towns, villages which host the bulk of the population are riddled with religion and superstition.

No hope for India at least for another few decades.

Much of the government restrictions were aimed at non-Hindus in India. For example, the ban on cow slaughter impacted Muslims during Eid al-Adha, and Christians complained about a lack of police action after incidents of religiously-motivated violence towards them - See more at: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-better-than-Syria-Study#sthash.R7oWIruk.dpuf

This is from article stretches too much though.

 

[czar]

Yet Westerners have no qualms in coming to India than some of the other countries.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Surprised to see Pakistan ranked in top 10. No real religion except Islam, and yet the religious hostilities are this high?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Yet Westerners have no qualms in coming to India than some of the other countries.

No surprise if you think about it, most of the violence in India is targeted and specific, towards their own religious minorities, not aimed at tourists. In the countries you are talking about random and mysterious bomb blasts are much more likely due to proxy wars involving many countries with vested interests.

 

[tomato]

No surprise if you think about it, most of the violence in India is targeted and specific, towards their own religious minorities, not aimed at tourists. In the countries you are talking about random and mysterious bomb blasts are much more likely due to proxy wars involving many countries with vested interests.

So ISIS atrocities on certain group of people are proxy from vested interests?

 

[troodon]

Surprised to see Pakistan ranked in top 10. No real religion except Islam, and yet the religious hostilities are this high?

No one knows whose Islam is the best or who is the best Muslim I guess.

Looking at the News coming from our neighbors, it is obvious, the animosity between various sects is no less than what we see in India.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Apt ranking for India. Most violent country in the SC too.

Surprised to see Pakistan ranked in top 10. No real religion except Islam, and yet the religious hostilities are this high?

You two better take off your green and blue glasses, stop point scoring and accept that both these countries are quite equally worst wrt religious hostilities. Nothing much to seperate the two.

 

[tomato]

You two better take off your green and blue glasses, stop point scoring and accept that both these countries are quite equally worst wrt religious hostilities. Nothing much to seperate the two.

But we have still have increasing minority population year after year,is it same in Pakistan as well?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So ISIS atrocities on certain group of people are proxy from vested interests?

I wasn't thinking of Isis specifically, but certainly Russia has put forward that theory yes.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

But we have still have increasing minority population year after year,is it same in Pakistan as well?

Would you be happy if I concede and give you some points lead ? Will it be significant ? I don’t think so.

 

[Zak_Fan]

You two better take off your green and blue glasses, stop point scoring and accept that both these countries are quite equally worst wrt religious hostilities. Nothing much to seperate the two.

I accepted India's ranking, didn't I?

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

I accepted India's ranking, didn't I?

But you did take a shot at Pakistan.


Yes Pakistan is no paradise for Minorities and hell for quite a few. But both India and Pakistan exhibit quite alot of religious hostilities.

 

[tomato]

Would you be happy if I concede and give you some points lead ? Will it be significant ? I don’t think so.

It won't but just saying there are still differences on how minorities survived in both countries.

 

[tomato]

I wasn't thinking of Isis specifically, but certainly Russia has put forward that theory yes.

Common now,don't dilute all those atrocities ISIS done on those women by pulling Russia.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

It won't but just saying there are still differences on how minorities survived in both countries.

Thank you tomato for treating some of the minorities better than Pakistan. Hope it fills your heart with happiness.

Stay blessed.

 

[tomato]

Thank you tomato for treating some of the minorities better than Pakistan. Hope it fills your heart with happiness.

Stay blessed.

Again it doesnt make us too much better than Pakistan,still a long way to go.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Again it doesnt make us too much better than Pakistan,still a long way to go.

Since BJP got into power India is downhill in this department.


In Pakistan actually there is Mullah Cracy in action so whether its Nawaz Zardari or Imran it doesn't matter until mullah cracy is destroyed and that day is far off.

 

[tomato]

Since BJP got into power India is downhill in this department.


In Pakistan actually there is Mullah Cracy in action so whether its Nawaz Zardari or Imran it doesn't matter until mullah cracy is destroyed and that day is far off.

You have no idea about religious attacks happening/happened in India.There were more attacks on minorities during Congress rule. Also till one month back UP was ruled by SP which was openly pro Muslim. Thing is most of these 'Secular' parties treat Muslims solely as vote bank and all blame goes to BJP.

With BJP raising TTT issue proactively and also now PM talking about taking care of backward Muslims, i guess more muslim votes coming to them in future elections.

 

[Zak_Fan]

But you did take a shot at Pakistan.


Yes Pakistan is no paradise for Minorities and hell for quite a few. But both India and Pakistan exhibit quite alot of religious hostilities.

While I love taking shots at Pakistan, that indeed was a genuine question. I have always acknowledged that India's religious diversity also has an ugly side. Excessive poor and uneducated population means that it is easy to invoke religious clashes over ridiculous reasons.

Didn't expect same to be the case in Pakistan. While you do share a poor and jahil population, I didn't see as to what exactly caused the spark. Troondon's post explained a lot.

 

[Zak_Fan]

You have no idea about religious attacks happening/happened in India.There were more attacks on minorities during Congress rule. Also till one month back UP was ruled by SP which was openly pro Muslim. Thing is most of these 'Secular' parties treat Muslims solely as vote bank and all blame goes to BJP.

With BJP raising TTT issue proactively and also now PM talking about taking care of backward Muslims, i guess more muslim votes coming to them in future elections.

With Modi's govt. comes a tag, and also a lot more scrutiny. So all the cases that were brushed under the carpet previously will make headlines today.

 

[PakLFC]

They are all as intolerant as each other as far as I am concerned. Even at 10 Pak is as bad as number 1.

 

[tomato]

With Modi's govt. comes a tag, and also a lot more scrutiny. So all the cases that were brushed under the carpet previously will make headlines today.

Not sure whether it is funny or sad when Congress was in center any attack happened in BJP ruled state BJP used to get blame.Now BJP is in center and any attack happened till last month ruled by SP again BJP gets blame. Same happens with Dalit attacks as well.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Not sure whether it is funny or sad when Congress was in center any attack happened in BJP ruled state BJP used to get blame.Now BJP is in center and any attack happened till last month ruled by SP again BJP gets blame. Same happens with Dalit attacks as well.

Congress rule was something else. I remember a Muslim mob burning 400 Hindu homes, and media reports didn't even have a mention of religion. Surprisingly, that actually helped keep things quieter in the country.

But now, we have ink thrown at a minority, and media will go non-stop with 3 hour specials on that. Right wing media channels too are doing a great job highlighting something that went unnoticed, "crimes against majority". Overall, while all this media campaign is helping such stories come out in public, it is also pushing the country towards a state of chaos, which is sad.

 

[tomato]

Congress rule was something else. I remember a Muslim mob burning 400 Hindu homes, and media reports didn't even have a mention of religion. Surprisingly, that actually helped keep things quieter in the country.

But now, we have ink thrown at a minority, and media will go non-stop with 3 hour specials on that. Right wing media channels too are doing a great job highlighting something that went unnoticed, "crimes against majority". Overall, while all this media campaign is helping such stories come out in public, it is also pushing the country towards a state of chaos, which is sad.

There is one recent example of lynching in Muzaffarabad of a Hindu because his bike dashed a goat.Hardly any news of this and media didn't even named attackers.

 

[Zak_Fan]

There is one recent example of lynching in Muzaffarabad of a Hindu because his bike dashed a goat.Hardly any news of this and media didn't even named attackers.

If things continue going downhill, I would rather prefer a Congress rule in future. Muslim minorities will never be comfortable under Modi, and all that hysteria will do more damage than good.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Common now,don't dilute all those atrocities ISIS done on those women by pulling Russia.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Your fellow Indian asked a question about Isis, I answered. Perhaps he felt it was relevant to the topic although reading the OP it's difficult to see how.

 

[Saeed]

Unsurprising list, I doubt anyone except the delusional PR brigade believed these countries were tolerant. With raising income inequality people will become even more intolerant, especially in western countries.

 

[ExpressPacer]

But we have still have increasing minority population year after year,is it same in Pakistan as well?

Understandably so. India is so deep hurdled into the problem of overpopulation that even minority communities are much, much, much larger than the entire populations of other countries. India's Muslim population is larger than that of the entire population of Pakistan and Pakistan itself is an overpopulated country. That should put some light to how bad the situation in India really is.

 

[ExpressPacer]

I'm not surprised at all. When India's supreme leader, who most of them religiously follow and even go to the extent of worshiping is an extremist and justifies massacre of large Muslim populations by calling it an act of Hindu's venting their anger, then what can we expect?

 

[ExpressPacer]

Whatever it is, Pakistani's are at no right to even comment on this, let alone criticize India for this. For what Pakistani's do to Shia Muslims each and every day is embarrassing. They are targeted each and every where. Almost every day there is news of a bomb blast, target killing or firing at people of the Shia communities. Only in 2017 hundreds have already been brutally butchered. Parachinar, Gilgit-Baltistan, Hazara communities in Balochistan and Shia mosques throughout Pakistan are at constant threat and incessantly attacked.

Ahmedi Muslims have entire villages demolished to the ground. Their majority city is constantly vandalized and targeted. There are forced conversions of Hindu girls and what not. Minorities living in Pakistan have it worse than most so keyboard warriors (like myself) should also accept how bad the situation is in Pakistan before pointing fingers at others.

 

[R0H1T]

You two better take off your green and blue glasses, stop point scoring and accept that both these countries are quite equally worst wrt religious hostilities. Nothing much to seperate the two.

There's a difference, big difference between the two. In India we have politicians that use religion as a tool for point scoring, scaremongering & basically another bullet point on a manifesto, before every election. When in power the BJP are no more/less secular than Congress or any number of regional parties in power, even at state level over the years.

In Pakistan religion is (almost) on an equal footing with the military, it's vastly more important (than societal/economic issues) for the identity of Pakistan itself. The end result is that blasphemy, apostasy, heresy is beyond the reach of even honest(?) politicians like Imran Khan.

Therefore, as the seeds sown by Zia have taken root, to turn into a more modern society Pakistan will have to not only undo the (religious) wrongs of the past but also make sure that the future generations understand that being a better human being is more important than reading Namaz 5 times a day. Religion shouldn't define what you are, a devout practicing Muslim isn't always a good person. However a good person will also be a good Muslim, regardless of his social standing, wealth, education, heritage (family history) et al.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Whatever it is, Pakistani's are at no right to even comment on this, let alone criticize India for this. For what Pakistani's do to Shia Muslims each and every day is embarrassing. They are targeted each and every where. Almost every day there is news of a bomb blast, target killing or firing at people of the Shia communities. Only in 2017 hundreds have already been brutally butchered. Parachinar, Gilgit-Baltistan, Hazara communities in Balochistan and Shia mosques throughout Pakistan are at constant threat and incessantly attacked.

Ahmedi Muslims have entire villages demolished to the ground. Their majority city is constantly vandalized and targeted. There are forced conversions of Hindu girls and what not. Minorities living in Pakistan have it worse than most so keyboard warriors (like myself) should also accept how bad the situation is in Pakistan before pointing fingers at others.

Arent you confusing terrorism which has inflicted Shias, Ahmedi's and the Sunni's too? Majority of those killed by far as Suni/Sufi. Shia's still parade during Muharram? Do they get attacked in the street by ordinary Pakistani's?

India has far more religous extremists, heck Dalit's have been oppressed for centuries by people from their own faith.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Arent you confusing terrorism which has inflicted Shias, Ahmedi's and the Sunni's too? Majority of those killed by far as Suni/Sufi. Shia's still parade during Muharram? Do they get attacked in the street by ordinary Pakistani's?

India has far more religous extremists, heck Dalit's have been oppressed for centuries by people from their own faith.

Shias "parading" during Muharram are at constant threat. Let's be real here. Each and every year these parading Shiites are stoned, shot and sometimes are even the victim of bomb blasts so I don't know what you mean by that. You certainly cannot be implying that they are parading because a sense of security runs through their minds and that they feel absolutely safe because if you are, let me tell you you're wrong.

As far as getting attacked in the streets is concerned, you can't really tell if someone's Shia or Sunni by their appearance but if something were to give it away, I'm sure they would be attacked just the same way bearded men and veiled women are attacked in the USA.

As for Indian religious extremism, I'm very much aware of it. I do agree that India has it much worse than we do in Pakistan but considering what sort of religious fanaticism some Pakistanis take part in, we are at no right to point fingers even if we're committing a smaller sin.

 

[Specialisttailender]

Where is Saudi ? I'm not buying this.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Shias "parading" during Muharram are at constant threat. Let's be real here. Each and every year these parading Shiites are stoned, shot and sometimes are even the victim of bomb blasts so I don't know what you mean by that. You certainly cannot be implying that they are parading because a sense of security runs through their minds and that they feel absolutely safe because if you are, let me tell you you're wrong.

Are you saying every parade they are attacked by stones by ordinary people? Do you have anything to back this up?

As far as getting attacked in the streets is concerned, you can't really tell if someone's Shia or Sunni by their appearance but if something were to give it away, I'm sure they would be attacked just the same way bearded men and veiled women are attacked in the USA.

As for Indian religious extremism, I'm very much aware of it. I do agree that India has it much worse than we do in Pakistan but considering what sort of religious fanaticism some Pakistanis take part in, we are at no right to point fingers even if we're committing a smaller sin.

You miss the point, Sufi's are attacked also and they are not a minority. Terrorists havn't been discriminating in Pakistan.

The Indian point was in response to the thread and not you.