India unhappy with US Congresswoman Ilhan Omar - this is why....

[MenInG]

New Delhi: India today condemned US Congresswoman Ilhan Omar's visit to Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir. The Congresswoman is on a four-day visit to Pakistan starting April 20, where she has also met former Prime Minister Imran Khan and his successor Shahbaz Sharif.

Answering a question about her visit to Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir, the foreign ministry spokesperson said it is condemnable.

"If such a politician wishes to practice her narrow-minded politics at home that may be her business, but violating our territorial integrity in its pursuit makes this ours. Condemnable," the ministry said.

The Congresswoman is on a four-day visit to Pakistan -- April 20-24 -- where apart from having meetings with the political leadership in Islamabad, she was to visit parts of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. The Prime Minister's Office had said that she will visit Lahore and "Azad Jammu and Kashmir" to have a greater understanding of Pakistan's cultural, social, political, and economic potential.

Kashmir always figures largely in Pakistan's interactions with the US and it was also discussed between Prime Minister Sharif and Ms Omar.

Mr Sharif told reporters that he had raised Kashmir with the 39-year-old lawmaker, known for her anti-India stance, and stressed the importance of peaceful resolution of the Jammu and Kashmir issue, enabling the region to realise its economic potential and promote social progress, reported news agency Press Trust of India.

Ms Omar's visit is largely directed at a reboot of the US-Pakistan relations after deposed Prime Minister Imran Khan's allegations of conspiracy. The opposition, Mr Khan had alleged, has conspired with the US to see him out of office through a no-trust vote in the national assembly.

Ms Omar, who represents Minnesota in the US House of Representatives, has already met Mr Khan, who is also the chief of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf party.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ind...ed-kashmir-2907525#pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories

 

[JaDed]

She is a smart politician , doing exactly what will get her to be in news.

GOI giving her free publicity.

 

[Hextro]

India's needs to stop being petty about Azad Kashmir, trying to impose yourself on people that don't like or respect you is weird. But then again when has that ever stopped india.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Indians are triggered.

BJP wont say it but Omar being a Muslim woman must also get their pants in a twist.

BJP/RSS rulers STILL believe Paksitan is occupying your land. Instead of spreading hate, demanding eveyrone says Jai Sri Ram or stop eating beef, shouldnt their khaki short & white school shirt clad soldiers be preparing to liberate their land? Attacking a congresswoman isnt going to liberate anything.

 

[MenInG]

US State Department Spokesperson Ned Price on Friday said that Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, who is currently on her maiden visit to Pakistan, was not visiting the country on US government-sponsored travel.

The senior official made the statement during a press briefing today in response to a question from a journalist.

"As you are well aware that Imran Khan is still blaming US for his ouster from PM’s office while he’s also asking his supporters to keep protesting outside the White House. But yesterday Congresswoman Ilhan Omar met with Mr. Khan in Islamabad. It was kind of an hour-long meeting. Close associates of Mr. Khan claim that United States trying to clear the air with Mr. Khan. Is it true that Ilhan Omar is representing Biden government there in Islamabad," the journalist had asked.

"Well, as I understand it, Representative Omar is not visiting Pakistan on US government-sponsored travel, so I’d need to refer you to her office for questions on her travel," Price replied.

Omar, who made history as one of the first two Muslim women elected to the US Congress, arrived in Islamabad earlier this week on a visit to Pakistan. The Congresswoman will stay in Pakistan till April 24.

She met a host of important figures including President Dr Arif Alvi, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, National Assembly Speaker Raja Pervaiz Ashraf and Foreign Office officials, as well as PTI Chairman Imran Khan.

According to official sources, the Congresswoman was also flown to the Line of Control (LoC) in the Chakothi sector, where she was briefed on the situation before and after the fresh understanding between the Pakistani and Indian armies to respect the 2003 ceasefire agreement.

Some residents, who had been affected by Indian shelling prior to the ceasefire, had also gathered there and shared their tales of horror with the visitors.

Omar's first day in Pakistan was, however, dominated by a controversy over her meeting with ex-premier Khan who claims a Washington-backed conspiracy was behind his government's ouster. Washington has denied the claims.

Besides taking a hardline on the private interactions between politicians and US officials, Khan has in his speeches at public rallies vowed no subservience to the US while accusing his opponents of toeing Washington’s line.

According to PTI's Shireen Mazari, Omar had discussed Islamophobia and other related issues in the meeting with Khan at the PTI chairman's Bani Gala residence.

Politicians and social media users immediately questioned the PTI chairman about the meeting with the American legislator and reminded him of his criticism of US officials meeting opposition figures. Newly elected Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah led the charge by asking Khan if his meeting with Omar was “a conspiracy or interference”.

Mazari, subsequently, fired back at the critics by saying that Omar was not a part of the US administration.

DAWN

 

[dildilpak]

So Ilhan Omar admires the Pakistani Trump

 

[Itachi]

So.... It means she's on vacation?

 

[offstump]

Why are Indians so upset about what a person does in their personal time?

 

[oatmeal]

So.... It means she's on vacation?

Members of congress make diplomatic visits all the time.

 

[Romali_rotti]

LOL Indians making a mountain out of nothing..


Ilhan Omar is a no one in US politics, no one takes her seriously, she will never have any power to influence any India policies.

Oh and add to it Illhan Omar married her brother to get into the US LOL......

Indians need to stop crying wolf at every nook and corner and get on with their lives...

 

[Itachi]

Members of congress make diplomatic visits all the time.

Yep but not like this. Seems like a vacation since it's from her personal account.

 

[IAJ]

LOL Indians making a mountain out of nothing..


Ilhan Omar is a no one in US politics, no one takes her seriously, she will never have any power to influence any India policies.

Oh and add to it Illhan Omar married her brother to get into the US LOL......

Indians need to stop crying wolf at every nook and corner and get on with their lives...

To be a ‘nobody’ you know quite a bit about her lol

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why are Indians so upset about what a person does in their personal time?

PoK is de jure Indian territory and Omar made comments about India, India replied. She had no business talking about Modi or India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

To be a ‘nobody’ you know quite a bit about her lol

Well US officials have gone ahead and said that what she says doesn't reflect the US government policy.

Oh and the local jester is well known too, but at the end of the day, he is nobody.

 

[MenInG]

PoK is de jure Indian territory and Omar made comments about India, India replied. She had no business talking about Modi or India.

And who dictates that?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Members of congress make diplomatic visits all the time.

Its not a diplomatic visit, US government has clarified that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

And who dictates that?

International sovereignty and laws governing that. You do not poke your nose in another sovereign country.

Why do you think the US government clarified that her trip is personal and has nothing to do with the US government.

And since she made it a point to talk about India, she was told what we think of her.

 

[daytrader]

Well Azad Jammu and Kashmir has a Pakistani government led by PTI. Her meeting Imran Khan the party leader makes sense. No need for India to get involved. Also how come India hasn't countered any comments made about Kashmir by Pakistani Prime Minister, Shehbaz Sharif? He's been pretty vocal about Kashmir since coming into power

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well Azad Jammu and Kashmir has a Pakistani government led by PTI. Her meeting Imran Khan the party leader makes sense. No need for India to get involved. Also how come India hasn't countered any comments made about Kashmir by Pakistani Prime Minister, Shehbaz Sharif? He's been pretty vocal about Kashmir since coming into power

PoK is de jure Indian territory. And she talked about Modi and India, so ofcourse India will reply.

Imran Khan used to talk about Kashmir and every other Indian topic, did India reply? India's policy under Modi has been to ignore Pakistan and maintain the minimum required diplomatic courtesies.

 

[daytrader]

PoK is de jure Indian territory. And she talked about Modi and India, so ofcourse India will reply.

Imran Khan used to talk about Kashmir and every other Indian topic, did India reply? India's policy under Modi has been to ignore Pakistan and maintain the minimum required diplomatic courtesies.

Only the people decide what is legal and people of Azad Kashmir have decided to be with Pakistan hence why we have the same political parties getting the peoples votes there.

What is illegal though, is occupation which India is doing in Indian Occupied Kashmir. A movement for freedom will get many supporting voices, India cannot suppress them all. The minimum diplomatic courtesy is just a way to not highlight the issue because India would be constantly on the defence on this topic. Smart for now but can't last forever. In the end, India will have to deal with Pakistan to resolve the issue.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Only the people decide what is legal and people of Azad Kashmir have decided to be with Pakistan hence why we have the same political parties getting the peoples votes there.

What is illegal though, is occupation which India is doing in Indian Occupied Kashmir. A movement for freedom will get many supporting voices, India cannot suppress them all. The minimum diplomatic courtesy is just a way to not highlight the issue because India would be constantly on the defence on this topic. Smart for now but can't last forever. In the end, India will have to deal with Pakistan to resolve the issue.

Lol. No. In your country, is a referendum held every time the government takes a decision?

Was a referendum held in PoK? On what basis has pakistan claimed PoK?

India has Kashmir because the ruler of Kashmir signed the treaty of accession with India. Thats a legal document. We don't gain anything by having relations with Pakistan. Nothing. I wouldn't mind if all diplomatic relations are broken. India is not defensive about Russian oil when faced by US UK etc and you think we will be defensive against Pakistan.

No we don't have to deal with Pakistan, unless we want to.

 

[Lego20]

Must be real bad days for Pakistan. Lobbying with the bottom rungs of US politics is pitiful and shows bankruptcy. Get someone who is known atleast in the US!

 

[daytrader]

Lol. No. In your country, is a referendum held every time the government takes a decision?

Was a referendum held in PoK? On what basis has pakistan claimed PoK?

India has Kashmir because the ruler of Kashmir signed the treaty of accession with India. Thats a legal document. We don't gain anything by having relations with Pakistan. Nothing. I wouldn't mind if all diplomatic relations are broken. India is not defensive about Russian oil when faced by US UK etc and you think we will be defensive against Pakistan.

No we don't have to deal with Pakistan, unless we want to.

That's all fine and dandy, then you cant claim Azad Kashmir lol. How you gonna get it if not through Pakistan. you guys don't agree to any third party interventions so what's the game plan there? Let Pakistan keep one half?

Btw voter turn out in Azad Kashmir is above 60%, that's the will of the people. If they didn't want to be with Pakistan, we would see election boycotts like in IOK.

 

[Itachi]

That's all fine and dandy, then you cant claim Azad Kashmir lol. How you gonna get it if not through Pakistan. you guys don't agree to any third party interventions so what's the game plan there? Let Pakistan keep one half?

Btw voter turn out in Azad Kashmir is above 60%, that's the will of the people. If they didn't want to be with Pakistan, we would see election boycotts like in IOK.

Since it's "Azad" why should we need to deal with Pakistan?

If we need to deal with Pakistan, then it is not "Azad" in the first place.

 

[daytrader]

Since it's "Azad" why should we need to deal with Pakistan?

If we need to deal with Pakistan, then it is not "Azad" in the first place.

It's Azad because it's not under an army occupation. The will of the people makes it Azad.

In contrast Indian Occupied Kashmir has over a million Indian soldiers trying to repress the freedoms of the local population

 

[Itachi]

It's Azad because it's not under an army occupation. The will of the people makes it Azad.

In contrast Indian Occupied Kashmir has over a million Indian soldiers trying to repress the freedoms of the local population

If it's not under any occupation and is "Azad", then why should India talk with Pakistan (a 3rd party) regarding "Azad Kashmir"?

 

[daytrader]

If it's not under any occupation and is "Azad", then why should India talk with Pakistan (a 3rd party) regarding "Azad Kashmir"?

Because India clearly cannot come occupy it like IOK.

 

[Itachi]

Because India clearly cannot come occupy it like IOK.

.... Because Azad Kashmir falls in the domain of Pakistan (thus making Pakistan from 3rd party to 2nd party)?

 

[RajBan]

Must be real bad days for Pakistan. Lobbying with the bottom rungs of US politics is pitiful and shows bankruptcy. Get someone who is known atleast in the US!

Imran has not given him much option. He severely damaged relations by creating false narrative for short terms gains. I don't see him getting any leeway once he is back to power. Infact he is better being in opposition where he will continue to thrive and keep the government on their toes.

 

[Itachi]

Imran has not given him much option. He severely damaged relations by creating false narrative for short terms gains. I don't see him getting any leeway once he is back to power. Infact he is better being in opposition where he will continue to thrive and keep the government on their toes.

He depended on China too much but it's sad that China was silent regarding the whole matter. He probably was very disappointed.

 

[Romali_rotti]

To be a ‘nobody’ you know quite a bit about her lol

She is a nobody as far as the India is concerned.... She cant do a thing to change any India related policies by the US.

She was recently begging the Biden administration to act against India but Awwww nobody listened to her

 

[Champ_Pal]

She can go where she wants to go. GOI being childish.

 

[MenInG]

LAHORE: After meeting victims of Indian ceasefire violations and seeing them suffer, US Congresswoman Ilhan Omar said that raising the Kashmir issue in Congress has become more necessary than before.

Talking to a reporter at a hotel about her bold stance on Kashmir and Palestine, The News reported that Omar said: “Having met the Kashmiri people in Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK), who nurse bullet wounds due to ceasefire violations by India, was an incredible experience and this firsthand experience has put me under an obligation to stand for human rights and human dignity."

The US congresswoman said she had always taken up questions regarding Kashmir and Palestine in Congress, however, she never had the opportunity to visit the place in person. "It was incredibly awful to meet the people firsthand and ask them how they want to be in partnership with me as a lawmaker and advocate of human rights," she added.

She said after meeting the people in person and seeing them suffer, it became crucial to raise the issue in Congress on an urgent basis rather than listening to it from others.

'Fight for the cause of weak and exploited'
About herself, Omar said her story was of trial and triumph. “I was born in Somalia but had to flee the country due to civil war and lived for four years in generous Kenya before me and my family were sponsored to reach the United States of America. Here I was able to continue my studies and live in a community of warm-hearted people, although Minnesota is very cold, for the past 20 years," she said.

"I represent the people of my community in the US Congress. I am someone who has experienced oppression and violation of human rights at a young age, and since I have been put into a position of power by people, I deem it my duty to advocate for those who don’t have that power.”

Omar said living with people who were disenfranchised and faced economic challenges, had not had full opportunity to educational opportunities, and those who were dealing with Islamophobia and racial discrimination, had prepared her to fight for the cause of the weak and exploited.

Visit to Pakistan
The US congresswoman said the Pakistani diaspora provided a strong bond between Pakistan and the US, and noted that those relations had bolstered over the past 75 years. She said Americans had benefited from the entrepreneurial spirit of the Pakistanis, their innovation, and their focus on advancing technology and healthcare. For many Americans, she said, their first interaction with Pakistanis was when they had met them.

Recalling the experience of her first visit to Pakistan, Omar said: “I have been humbled by the generosity of political leaders in Pakistan, who put their differences aside and welcomed me with open arms during my visit to the federal capital.”

She dismissed negative stories that people might have heard about Pakistan and said they would be pleasantly shocked to know how smooth and joyful her trip had been. “I enjoyed every bit of my stay,” she added.

She said she was fascinated to find a church, a Sikh temple, and a Hindu temple in close proximity to a mosque when she visited the Walled City of Lahore, which was the best exponent of cultural harmony. She pointed out that visiting Pakistan would help people get over their misgivings about the country. Omar thanked the Pakistani government and the people for the warmth, generosity and hospitality, saying she had been treated as a family during her maiden short visit to the country.

About her visit to Lahore, Ilhan Omar fondly said: “I have seen Lahore in movies from the age of five but it has been an incredible experience to visit Lahore in person and see Punjabi culture. “It was like the fulfilment of a wish list. Once I share my experiences on social media, all those who come across my experiences will love to buy a ticket and fly to Lahore,” she added.

She said she enjoyed spicy Pakistani food. Her husband, Tim, is also fond of Pakistani food and his US-Pakistani friends provided it plenty.

Climate change: a real issue
On climate change, the US congresswoman said it was a real issue and the United States, as a global leader, thinks it important to make investments in the global community to ward off the challenges of climate change. “There have to be investments in renewable energy to ensure our younger generations inherit a planet that is livable,” she said, adding that she would fight the exploitative use of water of Punjab rivers by India as she had done in the case of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

Omar's message to Pakistanis
In her message to the Pakistani diaspora in the US, she said their participation in the civil society and electoral process was vital to make a niche on the political scene in the US.

To Pakistani girls and women, the US congresswoman said the youth had limitless potential. “Women need to realise their inner potential to ensure their external liberation; they need to believe in their power, and society would not change unless they are ready to fight for themselves and the rights of others,” she maintained. She urged women from Pakistani minorities to take an active part in politics.

During her four-day visit at the invitation of the Pakistan government, Omar visited the Line of Control (LoC) in AJK, met the president, the prime minister, cabinet members and leaders of political parties. She also visited the Walled City of Lahore.

GEO

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Remarkable story of how a young woman from war torn Somalia has managed to make a life as a successful politician in America after overcoming so many struggles in her life.

 

[Lego20]

Remarkable story of how a young woman from war torn Somalia has managed to make a life as a successful politician in America after overcoming so many struggles in her life.

Somalian intruder ala a freeloader becoming a leftist politician based on illegal immigration, lobbying and freebee politics - what an achiever!

Meanwhile in the other thread, Indian hardworking highest tax paying working class achieving the pinnacle of success: Satya, Sundar, Shantanu,.... etc - Meh nothing great there.

 

[KingKhanWC]

International sovereignty and laws governing that. You do not poke your nose in another sovereign country.

Why do you think the US government clarified that her trip is personal and has nothing to do with the US government.

And since she made it a point to talk about India, she was told what we think of her.

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Why doesnt India take back its territory instead of crying over a vistor to what is a free land unlike the rape and brutality Indians are meeting out in the land they occupy?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Somalian intruder ala a freeloader becoming a leftist politician based on illegal immigration, lobbying and freebee politics - what an achiever!

Meanwhile in the other thread, Indian hardworking highest tax paying working class achieving the pinnacle of success: Satya, Sundar, Shantanu,.... etc - Meh nothing great there.

Why so much hate for a woman?

I realise India is the worst place for a woman to be born, if lucky to be born but please keep such hate within your own borders.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Somalian intruder ala a freeloader becoming a leftist politician based on illegal immigration, lobbying and freebee politics - what an achiever!

Meanwhile in the other thread, Indian hardworking highest tax paying working class achieving the pinnacle of success: Satya, Sundar, Shantanu,.... etc - Meh nothing great there.

No idea which thread you are talking about, I was commenting on this one. This smart young lady's success is a testament to the opportunity the US provides even for those who come from the most challenging circumstances.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

LOL Indians making a mountain out of nothing..


Ilhan Omar is a no one in US politics, no one takes her seriously, she will never have any power to influence any India policies.

Oh and add to it Illhan Omar married her brother to get into the US LOL......

Indians need to stop crying wolf at every nook and corner and get on with their lives...

Lol saying she is no one is a stretch considering she is an important member of the so called Squad which many see as future of Democratic Party

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Must be real bad days for Pakistan. Lobbying with the bottom rungs of US politics is pitiful and shows bankruptcy. Get someone who is known atleast in the US!

She may or may not be liked in the US but to claim that she is not known in the US is a stretch. either you live under a rock or grapes are sour…

 

[MenInG]

Somalian intruder ala a freeloader becoming a leftist politician based on illegal immigration, lobbying and freebee politics - what an achiever!

Meanwhile in the other thread, Indian hardworking highest tax paying working class achieving the pinnacle of success: Satya, Sundar, Shantanu,.... etc - Meh nothing great there.

Wow so much hate for someone you don't even care about.

 

[cricketjoshila]

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Why doesnt India take back its territory instead of crying over a vistor to what is a free land unlike the rape and brutality Indians are meeting out in the land they occupy?

Because there is a UN mediated ceasefire in place that India respects.

Free land? Its pakistan occupied land.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Because there is a UN mediated ceasefire in place that India respects.

Free land? Its pakistan occupied land.

lol. You've been lobbing over various ammunitions for years.

My point was simple. If you believe the land is yours, then with a bigger army, more money, more military hardware come and take it instead of crying over a woman or man viewing it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

lol. You've been lobbing over various ammunitions for years.

My point was simple. If you believe the land is yours, then with a bigger army, more money, more military hardware come and take it instead of crying over a woman or man viewing it.

What ammunition? Retaliation will happen when provoked.

China believes Taiwan is there's, have they taken it? No. Why?

Not everyone is mad to fight wars and then go around the world begging for bailouts.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What ammunition? Retaliation will happen when provoked.

China believes Taiwan is there's, have they taken it? No. Why?

Not everyone is mad to fight wars and then go around the world begging for bailouts.

Of course in your world its never India's fault inc the raping of children, torture and murder was because of Pakistan.

Taiwan does belong to China as accepted by the US.

Pakistan doesnt accept any part of Kashmir belongs to India and neither does the UN.

So again, crying on PP wont help you. Plenty of high profile vistors have came and will come. Either take what belongs to your in your mind or watch Yogi speeches.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Lol saying she is no one is a stretch considering she is an important member of the so called Squad which many see as future of Democratic Party

She is a nobody as far as the Indians are concerned, she is now also considered a joke in the US political circle ever since its been out that she married her brother to get to the US. lol...

 

[cricketjoshila]

Of course in your world its never India's fault inc the raping of children, torture and murder was because of Pakistan.

Taiwan does belong to China as accepted by the US.

Pakistan doesnt accept any part of Kashmir belongs to India and neither does the UN.

So again, crying on PP wont help you. Plenty of high profile vistors have came and will come. Either take what belongs to your in your mind or watch Yogi speeches.

Taiwan isn't under china and US is constitutionally bound to defend Taiwan.

The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities".

It doesn't matter what pakistan believes. Your then PM made a lot of noise when Article 370 was removed. What did he do? Nothing.

High profile who? Ilhan Omar? Lol. Thats the best pakistanis could do as the President of USA wont even call imran and the US government swiftly distanced themselves from the visit.

The only people crying are pakistanis, every time something happens in India, pakistanis like you cry, from Kashmir to hijab to CAA.Now go read Imran's tweets.

 

[offstump]

Taiwan isn't under china and US is constitutionally bound to defend Taiwan.

The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities".

It doesn't matter what pakistan believes. Your then PM made a lot of noise when Article 370 was removed. What did he do? Nothing.

High profile who? Ilhan Omar? Lol. Thats the best pakistanis could do as the President of USA wont even call imran and the US government swiftly distanced themselves from the visit.

The only people crying are pakistanis, every time something happens in India, pakistanis like you cry, from Kashmir to hijab to CAA.Now go read Imran's tweets.[/QUOTE

Irony is always lost on Indians. Dude, you’ve been crying throughout this thread start to finish non stop. If you don’t care why come back over and over.

Also, the U.S. isn’t “constitutionally bound” to defend Taiwan, that’s absolute nonsense. The US constitution has a provision to defend Taiwan? Vah the founding fathers were so forward thinking lol. What you’ve quoted is totally out of context so you either don’t understand the Taiwan relations act or you’ve purposely cherry picked something off Google.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Taiwan isn't under china and US is constitutionally bound to defend Taiwan.

The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities".

It doesn't matter what pakistan believes. Your then PM made a lot of noise when Article 370 was removed. What did he do? Nothing.

High profile who? Ilhan Omar? Lol. Thats the best pakistanis could do as the President of USA wont even call imran and the US government swiftly distanced themselves from the visit.

The only people crying are pakistanis, every time something happens in India, pakistanis like you cry, from Kashmir to hijab to CAA.Now go read Imran's tweets.[/QUOTE

Irony is always lost on Indians. Dude, you’ve been crying throughout this thread start to finish non stop. If you don’t care why come back over and over.

Also, the U.S. isn’t “constitutionally bound” to defend Taiwan, that’s absolute nonsense. The US constitution has a provision to defend Taiwan? Vah the founding fathers were so forward thinking lol. What you’ve quoted is totally out of context so you either don’t understand the Taiwan relations act or you’ve purposely cherry picked something off Google.

Before spouting nonsense, read the Taiwan relations act.

The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities".

This is from the act. What does it mean? What kind of defence services and articles will US provide?



The only one crying here are pakistanis because Indian govt retaliated to Illhan omars statements on India and that too with scant respect.

 

[daytrader]

What ammunition? Retaliation will happen when provoked.

China believes Taiwan is there's, have they taken it? No. Why?

Not everyone is mad to fight wars and then go around the world begging for bailouts.

India is the bully in the region and if it could have it's way, it would fight wars. Fortunately though, it's neighbours cannot be easily bullied.

Don't forget 1962 when India begged USA to intervene in the war. China wanted a peaceful resolution to the border disputes but India ignored such calls and started forward patrols in Chinese occupied areas. Result was a war that India lost badly due to it's own arrogance. On the other hand all of India's neighbours resolved border disputes with China peacefully.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

lol. You've been lobbing over various ammunitions for years.

My point was simple. If you believe the land is yours, then with a bigger army, more money, more military hardware come and take it instead of crying over a woman or man viewing it.

Notice as usual the Indian patriot couldn't answer this simple question. Can you imagine US or Britain believing that land belonging to them would ever fall into foreign hands?

Either it's your land or it isn't. If it is, why is Pakistan still holding it nearly a century later?

 

[oatmeal]

She is a nobody as far as the Indians are concerned, she is now also considered a joke in the US political circle ever since its been out that she married her brother to get to the US. lol...

This canard has been repeated about her a lot but its never been proven. Siblings can sponsor people for green cards so why would she break the law and fake a marriage to get to the US.

 

[oatmeal]

Its not a diplomatic visit, US government has clarified that.

So the trip is paid for by her campaign funds?

She's not representing the executive , that's already clear. But as I understand it there is a budget for representatives to travel to foreign countries. The government still pays for it but they dont endorse the visits nor approve them.

It might be a purely personal visit too, I'm not totally sure.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India is the bully in the region and if it could have it's way, it would fight wars. Fortunately though, it's neighbours cannot be easily bullied.

Don't forget 1962 when India begged USA to intervene in the war. China wanted a peaceful resolution to the border disputes but India ignored such calls and started forward patrols in Chinese occupied areas. Result was a war that India lost badly due to it's own arrogance. On the other hand all of India's neighbours resolved border disputes with China peacefully.

Dont forget 1971 when 90k pakistanis were on their knees and were taken to India and kept their for months. ZAB had to come to Shimla to get them back.

Why did China suddenly withdrew and declared a ceasefire? What were they afraid of? Why did they abandon all the territorial gains and went back? Afarid of India using the airforce?Afraid that India was baiting them to come deeper into the territory and then stretch their supply lines?

Pakistan is no China and its should not harbour any delusions that it is one. Indian army took away almost half of the Pakistani GDP created a new nation.

 

[TheSultan]

LOL Indians making a mountain out of nothing..


Ilhan Omar is a no one in US politics, no one takes her seriously, she will never have any power to influence any India policies.

Oh and add to it Illhan Omar married her brother to get into the US LOL......

Indians need to stop crying wolf at every nook and corner and get on with their lives...

Don’t know whether to laugh or rofl at this silly attempt to play her down.

A nobody is a somebody a nobody like yourself knows quite a bit about

 

[offstump]

Before spouting nonsense, read the Taiwan relations act.

The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities".

This is from the act. What does it mean? What kind of defence services and articles will US provide?



The only one crying here are pakistanis because Indian govt retaliated to Illhan omars statements on India and that too with scant respect.

Vah bayee vah, so you are doubling down the United States Constitution bounds the US to defend Taiwan? You went on Wikipedia and copy pasted the line about providing defense to Taiwan. The act is just that, it’s not a defense treaty. The president has no legal authority to help Taiwan if China decided to take military action. Anything would need to be ratified through congress which means Taiwan could potentially get zero support from the US. That’s what it mean, now read very carefully because we know you’re slow to understand. Now go throw darts at Ilhan Omar’s picture in your basement.

 

[daytrader]

Dont forget 1971 when 90k pakistanis were on their knees and were taken to India and kept their for months. ZAB had to come to Shimla to get them back.

Why did China suddenly withdrew and declared a ceasefire? What were they afraid of? Why did they abandon all the territorial gains and went back? Afarid of India using the airforce?Afraid that India was baiting them to come deeper into the territory and then stretch their supply lines?

Pakistan is no China and its should not harbour any delusions that it is one. Indian army took away almost half of the Pakistani GDP created a new nation.

So basically you concede that India loves making wars

 

[Itachi]

Vah bayee vah, so you are doubling down the United States Constitution bounds the US to defend Taiwan? You went on Wikipedia and copy pasted the line about providing defense to Taiwan. The act is just that, it’s not a defense treaty. The president has no legal authority to help Taiwan if China decided to take military action. Anything would need to be ratified through congress which means Taiwan could potentially get zero support from the US. That’s what it mean, now read very carefully because we know you’re slow to understand. Now go throw darts at Ilhan Omar’s picture in your basement.

It will depend upon the definition of "service" in the treaty.

 

[dildilpak]

For me the bigger issue is Ilhan Omar happily meeting a man who is anti-US & has accused her government of conspiracy. Clearly shows that she is not loyal to her adoptive country nor her political party & values her religious affiliation more. Happy to sponsor her one way ticket to whichever place she comes from.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Vah bayee vah, so you are doubling down the United States Constitution bounds the US to defend Taiwan? You went on Wikipedia and copy pasted the line about providing defense to Taiwan. The act is just that, it’s not a defense treaty. The president has no legal authority to help Taiwan if China decided to take military action. Anything would need to be ratified through congress which means Taiwan could potentially get zero support from the US. That’s what it mean, now read very carefully because we know you’re slow to understand. Now go throw darts at Ilhan Omar’s picture in your basement.

So the act doesn't exist or the lines i posted dont exist?

Let's assume all this has to go through congress, Taiwan enjoys bi partisan support.

This a ambiguous defence treaty.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So basically you concede that India loves making wars

So we should sit at home and do nothing if enery advances.

 

[Major]

LOL Indians making a mountain out of nothing..


Ilhan Omar is a no one in US politics, no one takes her seriously, she will never have any power to influence any India policies.

Oh and add to it Illhan Omar married her brother to get into the US LOL......

Indians need to stop crying wolf at every nook and corner and get on with their lives...

first time reading that a US congresswomen is no one.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Somalian intruder ala a freeloader becoming a leftist politician based on illegal immigration, lobbying and freebee politics - what an achiever!

Meanwhile in the other thread, Indian hardworking highest tax paying working class achieving the pinnacle of success: Satya, Sundar, Shantanu,.... etc - Meh nothing great there.

Intruder? She came legally.

And going from refugee to a politician is a big achievement.

 

[daytrader]

So we should sit at home and do nothing if enery advances.

Forward patrolling was started by India in Aksai Chin. India deliberately provoked China whereas all other neighbours peacefully settled their border issues via diplomacy. In the subcontinent, India is the only country that 'is mad to fight wars'

 

[KingKhanWC]

Taiwan isn't under china and US is constitutionally bound to defend Taiwan.

The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities".

It doesn't matter what pakistan believes. Your then PM made a lot of noise when Article 370 was removed. What did he do? Nothing.

High profile who? Ilhan Omar? Lol. Thats the best pakistanis could do as the President of USA wont even call imran and the US government swiftly distanced themselves from the visit.

The only people crying are pakistanis, every time something happens in India, pakistanis like you cry, from Kashmir to hijab to CAA.Now go read Imran's tweets.

lol. Educate yourself on the One China policy which is accepted by the Yanks.

As always you need other nations to make your feel important.

Omar visted a free land where people arent raped or murdered hundreds of thousands of state terrorist security forces.

There is nothing India can do about anyone visiting this land unless one day India grows some courage to take back what is believes belong to it.

 

[daytrader]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think my family and I should have a prayer session next time I am on a plane. How do you think it will end? <a href="https://t.co/5696Erwsl5">pic.twitter.com/5696Erwsl5</a></p>— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) <a href="https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1515528668227018752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[silentkiller187]

US Congresswoman Ilhan Omar has introduced a resolution in the House of Representatives, condemning violations of human rights and religious freedom in India and calling for Secretary of State Antony Blinken to designate India as a "country of particular concern", it emerged on Thursday.

The resolution, co-sponsored by lawmakers Rashida Talib and Juan Vargas, was submitted on Tuesday, according to the US Congress website. It based its arguments to declare India as a country of particular concern on the conclusions and findings of a report by the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF).

The resolution
The text of the resolution, available on the US Congress website, highlighted that the USCIRF had called for designating India as a country of particular concern for 3 consecutive years.

Citing the USCIRF’s 2022 annual report, the resolution stated that in 2021, “the Indian government escalated its promotion and enforcement of policies — including those promoting a Hindu-nationalist agenda — that negatively affect Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Dalits, and other religious minorities”.

According to the resolution, the report further said: “The government continued to systemise its ideological vision of a Hindu state at both the national and state levels through the use of both existing and new laws and structural changes hostile to the country’s religious minorities.”

Moreover, the resolution said, the report described the use of laws such as the Unlawful Activities Prevention Act and the Sedition Law in India as a means “to create an increasing climate of intimidation and fear in an effort to silence anyone speaking out against the government”.

The report also mentioned cases of the Indian government's “repression of religious minority leaders and voices for religious pluralism in India, including the Jesuit human rights defender Father Stan Swamy and the Muslim human rights advocate Khurram Parvez,” the resolution said, adding that the report also listed numerous examples of the Indian government "criminalising, harassing, and repressing interfaith couples and converts from Hinduism to Christianity or Islam".

In this connection, the report also highlighted the "severe risks of the Citizenship Amendment Act and the National Registry of Citizens for Indian Muslims, including the possibility of rendering millions stateless or subject to indefinite detention".

According to the resolution, the report said: "In 2021, numerous attacks were made on religious minorities, particularly Muslims and Christians, and their neighbourhoods, businesses, homes, and houses of worship.

"Many of these incidents were violent, unprovoked, and/or encouraged or incited by government officials."

The USCIRF report further stated: “In 2021, mass protests continued against farm laws enacted in September 2020. Despite the widespread and diverse nature of the protests, efforts — including by government officials — were still made to discredit the protesters, especially Sikh protesters, as terrorists and religiously motivated separatists.”

The resolution said the report further cited a 2021 Oxfam India study which found that a third of Indian Muslims reported discriminatory treatment at hospitals during the surge of Covid in India.

"As of June 2022, USCIRF lists 45 Indian nationals on its Freedom of Religion or Belief Victims list, all of whom were listed for their detention," the resolution stated, adding that 35 of those 45 prisoners of conscience remain detained.

The resolution also referred to a 2021 report of the State Department, which was published on June 2, 2022.

The 'Report on International Religious Freedom' outlined numerous examples of violence and threats of violence against religious minorities, particularly Muslims and Christians, in India throughout 2021, the resolution said.

It added that while launching the report during a press conference, Blinken said: "In India, the world’s largest democracy and home to a great diversity of faiths, we’ve seen rising attacks on people and places of worship."

And at the same press conference, the resolution continued, Ambassador-at-Large for International Religious Freedom Rashad Hussain said: “We are concerned with targeting of a number of religious communities in India, including Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindu Dalits, and indigenous communities as well."

On these grounds, the resolution concluded, the House condemned human rights violations and violations of international religious freedom in India, including those targeting Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Dalits, Adivasis, and other religious and cultural minorities.

It added that the House also expressed grave concern about the "worsening treatment" of religious minorities in India and called on Blinken to designate India as a "country of particular concern" under the International Religious Freedom Act of, 1998.

The resolution has been referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs.

DAWN