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India vs South Africa | 1st ODI | Ranchi | November 30 | Match Discussion

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Team India are set to kick off their limited-overs campaign with a three-match ODI series against South Africa, beginning Sunday. The fixtures are scheduled to be played in Ranchi, Raipur, and Visakhapatnam, where Proteas captain Temba Bavuma will look to assert dominance in the 50-over format.

India, meanwhile, will be led by KL Rahul after injuries ruled out both regular captain Shubman Gill and vice-captain Shreyas Iyer. Iyer is currently recovering from an abdominal issue sustained during the Australian tour, while Gill is on the mend following a neck injury suffered in the opening Test against South Africa.

Despite these setbacks, India will still field an experienced lineup, with senior players Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli expected to feature in the playing XI.

India and South Africa have met 94 times in ODI cricket, with the Proteas maintaining a historical advantage after winning 51 of those encounters. India have emerged victorious in 40 matches, while 3 games ended without a result. Although South Africa hold the upper hand overall, India have made notable strides in recent years.
 
Morne Morkel calls for a fresh white-ball reset after a disappointing Test series:

"Obviously, it was a disappointing two weeks for us, but we had a couple of days now to reflect and I think the important thing now is to give all our energy into the white-ball team," Morkel said. "We've been playing a lot of good white-ball cricket. It's a couple of new faces, but fresh energy into the squad now with Virat and Rohit and them coming back. Excited for the next couple of weeks now with playing white ball cricket."

"Preparation for the T20 world cup is one thing but every time you put on the Indian jersey, you are representing the country and you are representing lots of people, the fans standing outside the gate, supporting us and waving us and cheering us on. For me, preparation is one thing, but for me it's playing good cricket for all the cricket lovers there and the cricket supporters."

"I think that would be the focus, to bring a bit of momentum back into the Indian dressing room after a disappointing two weeks and by that is to put all other thoughts aside and just play good, solid white ball cricket starting in two days' time,"

"Look, it's a change of colour by clothing and it's a change of ball which always brings a different energy, but I feel you know the South African team, they have that momentum with them and a confident Proteas team is a dangerous team. It will be important to start well, for us to play good cricket over the next week or two, because they're here to win.

"Luckily, we have got some good experience ahead now in the team. For us, it is now our focus for the next two days. Give ourselves the best opportunity to prepare well and go out there and put the last couple of weeks behind us and really focus on playing solid cricket."

With Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli returning, questions are abound about whether they will be able to play the 50-over World Cup in two years' time:

"I feel that their bodies can do that. It is still a long way away. The World Cup, by all means," Morkel said. "I have played many games against them. I have had sleepless nights bowling to them. So, I know as a bowler what goes through your preparation playing against them. So, for me, definitely onboard with that."


"I think the best is for the medical [team] to update that," Morkel said. "I spoke to Shubman two days ago just to check in with him and he is recovering well. So, that is pleasing to hear.

"Shreyas has also started his rehab, which is great. So, we are looking forward to welcoming them back into the squad. The good thing is that they are healthy and they are starting their preparation on their way back into the team."
 
KL Rahul was chosen to take the reins for the three-match ODI series against South Africa, a decision which he was informed of, at the very last moment.

"Just a day before the announcement, I was told that the opportunity might come and I might have to lead (India)," he said on the eve of the first ODI in Ranchi.
 
Jaiswal
Rohit
Kohli
Pant( Wk)
Kl (C)
Reddy
Jadeja
Sundar
Kuldeep
Arshdeep
Rana

This is likely team they will Play.

:kp
 
Jaiswal
Rohit
Kohli
Pant( Wk)
Kl (C)
Reddy
Jadeja
Sundar
Kuldeep
Arshdeep
Rana

This is likely team they will Play.

:kp
Pathetic pace bowling attack.

Arshdeep 120kmph halwa is useful only in T20's and when there is some swing. In indian conditions and to bowl 10 overs on flat batting wickets -he is toast on ice..... chances very high for 10-0-75-0

unless Harshit learns to reverse swing - another 10-0-65-0 coming up

unless Washy, kulli, Jadz or varun strike & take about 8 wickets amongst themselves bowling first , we will be chasing 350 + each time we bat second

-If defending, i would back SAF to pound this pathetic trundling pace attack and if we win it will be in the last over by less than 5 runs.

Hopefully Nitish Kr Reddy gets his chance to bowl and performs well. Else Hardik will slot in straight away when he returns from injury.

If we cannot use this series to give chances to young pacemen, and are selecting the same washed out harshith, Arshdeep, prasidh - BCCI are not focussed on the future.

wonder where is umran malik and these kind of guys, i wish these are selected and played straight away....

are BCCI even scouring our domestics?

Hope Bring back Bharath Arun in some capacity either in domestics or at NCA or at some youth camps etc- dude was the catalyst in developing ishant, umesh, Mo shami, JazzBoom and also siraj....Hope bcci also use Sridhar the ex fielding coach in similar capacity as Bharat Arun...we have two diamonds amongst us and need to use them better.
 
Pathetic pace bowling attack.

Arshdeep 120kmph halwa is useful only in T20's and when there is some swing. In indian conditions and to bowl 10 overs on flat batting wickets -he is toast on ice..... chances very high for 10-0-75-0

unless Harshit learns to reverse swing - another 10-0-65-0 coming up

unless Washy, kulli, Jadz or varun strike & take about 8 wickets amongst themselves bowling first , we will be chasing 350 + each time we bat second

-If defending, i would back SAF to pound this pathetic trundling pace attack and if we win it will be in the last over by less than 5 runs.

Hopefully Nitish Kr Reddy gets his chance to bowl and performs well. Else Hardik will slot in straight away when he returns from injury.

If we cannot use this series to give chances to young pacemen, and are selecting the same washed out harshith, Arshdeep, prasidh - BCCI are not focussed on the future.

wonder where is umran malik and these kind of guys, i wish these are selected and played straight away....

are BCCI even scouring our domestics?

Hope Bring back Bharath Arun in some capacity either in domestics or at NCA or at some youth camps etc- dude was the catalyst in developing ishant, umesh, Mo shami, JazzBoom and also siraj....Hope bcci also use Sridhar the ex fielding coach in similar capacity as Bharat Arun...we have two diamonds amongst us and need to use them better.
Harshit has a very good ODI record. But otherwise this is a pathetic squad
 
Bavuma waiting to give another thrashing to India after that Dwarf comment... Not gonna be easy but they can do it
 
Bavuma used to be a quota player but he definitely grew into a strong and capable leader.

It shows perseverence pays off.

Bavuma is technically the most successful South African captain since Hansie Cronje.

Bavuma and Cronje are the only two captains in South African history to win an ICC trophy and also whitewash India in India (SA whitewashed India in 2000 under Cronje).
 
Bavuma waiting to give another thrashing to India after that Dwarf comment... Not gonna be easy but they can do it
now that you've mentioned, i sort of remember another comment made by your keeper about Andile phelukwayo a few years back...
 
Hmmm.. Did you condemn dwarf one?

Tendulkar regularly being called as midget here. Though I agree Bumrah should not have said but Pakistanis taking a morally high ground is funny. I am sure every team address players like that in change room...its just that Bumrah got caught in stump mike. Calling a short player as short is no big deal. I have heard many openly calling M.Irfan as lambu etc.
 
Tendulkar regularly being called as midget here. Though I agree Bumrah should not have said but Pakistanis taking a morally high ground is funny. I am sure every team address players like that in change room...its just that Bumrah got caught in stump mike. Calling a short player as short is no big deal. I have heard many openly calling M.Irfan as lambu etc.
Dont talk about here... talk about the game... Sarfaraz did it in game and he got punished... but not Bumrah and Pant...why???
 
1. Rohit
2. Jaiswal
3. Kohli
4. Tilak
5. Rahul
6.
Pathetic pace bowling attack.

Arshdeep 120kmph halwa is useful only in T20's and when there is some swing. In indian conditions and to bowl 10 overs on flat batting wickets -he is toast on ice..... chances very high for 10-0-75-0

unless Harshit learns to reverse swing - another 10-0-65-0 coming up

unless Washy, kulli, Jadz or varun strike & take about 8 wickets amongst themselves bowling first , we will be chasing 350 + each time we bat second

-If defending, i would back SAF to pound this pathetic trundling pace attack and if we win it will be in the last over by less than 5 runs.

Hopefully Nitish Kr Reddy gets his chance to bowl and performs well. Else Hardik will slot in straight away when he returns from injury.

If we cannot use this series to give chances to young pacemen, and are selecting the same washed out harshith, Arshdeep, prasidh - BCCI are not focussed on the future.

wonder where is umran malik and these kind of guys, i wish these are selected and played straight away....

are BCCI even scouring our domestics?

Hope Bring back Bharath Arun in some capacity either in domestics or at NCA or at some youth camps etc- dude was the catalyst in developing ishant, umesh, Mo shami, JazzBoom and also siraj....Hope bcci also use Sridhar the ex fielding coach in similar capacity as Bharat Arun...we have two diamonds amongst us and need to use them better.
Reddy shouldn't be played in ODIs, was pathetic in Australia with the ball.

He should be in the test team when India play in SENA.
 
Toss: South Africa (Bowling first)

India 52/1 in 7 overs.


LOL India loses another toss... This is getting funny
 
Even though I did know they hadn't retired I still got a surprise to see these two batting.

They are doing well hope they can score big runs.
 
Even though I did know they hadn't retired I still got a surprise to see these two batting.

They are doing well hope they can score big runs.
India need ROKO for next 5 years...... as young brigade unable to take responsibilities
Who said they need to go??

People won’t understand the conditions. All they will see is RoKo hitting boundaries and pilling runs. They’ll celebrate them madly. Pushing them till 2027 World Cup which will be played in totally different condition and they will be 22 month older.

:kp
 
Wow the experienced duo vs an inexperienced attack. These two are owning it. Kohli with 5 sixes already!
 
If BCCI is smart, they will ask Kohli to take back his retirement from test cricket which we all know he had taken in a jest due to his differences with Gambhir and serve Indian cricket for couple of years.
 
Hmmm.. Did you condemn dwarf one?
yes i do, wish it was never said. such things should never be said. Obviously we do not know Jasprit personally or even Sarfie for that matter.

I am sure in both cases what was said more in jest and in the heat of the moment than with any other intent.

Lastly, what was said in your match was leagues above 'dwarf' -any wasys...lets enjoy the match :)
 
If BCCI is smart, they will ask Kohli to take back his retirement from test cricket which we all know he had taken in a jest due to his differences with Gambhir and serve Indian cricket for couple of years.

Did you forget the Aus tour where he kept nicking everything to slips ? Kohli fans are fickle.
 
Did you forget the Aus tour where he kept nicking everything to slips ? Kohli fans are fickle.
He also got a century in Perth. Its not as if we will play all tests in Australia and Boland is a fine fine bowler. We are struggling even at home now and think Kohli can still serve us in test cricket for few more years
 
He also got a century in Perth. Its not as if we will play all tests in Australia and Boland is a fine fine bowler. We are struggling even at home now and think Kohli can still serve us in test cricket for few more years
One good innings on a slow flat pitch against a 2nd string attack & people forget how he struggled in Australia just 1 month back

This level of hero worship is detrimental to Indian cricket
 
People won’t understand the conditions. All they will see is RoKo hitting boundaries and pilling runs. They’ll celebrate them madly. Pushing them till 2027 World Cup which will be played in totally different condition and they will be 22 month older.

:kp

Condition is not understanding by young players... when today ROKO scoring most of runs, some young player should take advantage of this and play big inning without pressure... this is exactly not happening in ODI and test...
 
Rickelton had average of 29 in odis 😂 he himself is second string.....plus Pakistan whitewashed SA in SA 10 months ago with rabada, RVD, Miller, bavuma,klaseen soo why they cant they beat them 2-1 in Pakistan? The table shows they used 38 players this year in odis SO they dont care about bilateral odis that much....
Bravis , Rickelton ? :kp
 
ODI is probably the lowest risk - highest reward format to play as a batter. No wonder Kohli/Rohit are hiding here.
 
Problem with ageing batters is their reflexes become slow. Hence they struggle against quicks on fast bouncy pitches. They can still do well on slow pitches against spinners & medium pacers.

This is issue with Ro Ko. They dont have reflexes any more. They will do well in India or UAE but not in SENA. We saw that in Australia recently. But now they will pile on runs & people will forget their struggles in SENA

BUT 2027 WC is in South Africa - not India or Dubai or Sri Lanka. Carrying 2 40 year olds for a series in South Africa will be disaster
 
Problem with ageing batters is their reflexes become slow. Hence they struggle against quicks on fast bouncy pitches. They can still do well on slow pitches against spinners & medium pacers.

This is issue with Ro Ko. They dont have reflexes any more. They will do well in India or UAE but not in SENA. We saw that in Australia recently. But now they will pile on runs & people will forget their struggles in SENA

BUT 2027 WC is in South Africa - not India or Dubai or Sri Lanka. Carrying 2 40 year olds for a series in South Africa will be disaster

Young players have better reflexes than ROKO but what's the use? They can't play long inning like ROKO.... nowdays young players always playing in T20 mode whether it's in ODI or test
 
LOL Kohli upsetting lots of Gambhir fans, first by scoring a big score, secondly by batting slowly for his century - good for him

If India don't make minimum 360, SA will chase them down
 
Young players have better reflexes than ROKO but what's the use? They can't play long inning like ROKO.... nowdays young players always playing in T20 mode whether it's in ODI or test
U have to give them oppurtunities for them to develope into world class batters. That wont happen if R0hit & Kohli stay around

Rohit & Kohli came into their own after Sachin Dravid Ganguly Sehwag wer dropped

Imagine if Sehwag & Gambhir wer not dropped & Rohit / Dhawan not promoted as openers in 2013 - do u think they wud have excelled as openers

Look at how Abhishek & Tilak made their way into T20s after Rohit & Kohli retired
 
I wud rather have Abhishek as opener. Tilak at 3. Rinku at 6

Tilak has big hundreds in T20s. Played such mature innings in Asia Cup final. Why not groom him as No 3 in ODI. He can play big shots & rotate strike as well

Give them chances for 6 months & track their progress
 
In 2027 on South African pitches, Kohli and Rohit won't be able to smash even Pakistani bowlers like they usually do.
 
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