India vs South Africa & Pakistan vs New Zealand: Who will win these upcoming ODI series?

[Kohli The King of Chase]

INDIA:

Our next Odi series is, well, feeling embarrassed even to mention. Yes, against SL.

We know the result. There is not much to discuss about.


Then we go to RSA for 6 Odis. That's the real test.

Off late, We are riding on series against WI,SL, and then home series.

We say, we are number one, let's see we can defeat RSA, at their own den.

One advantage, Steyn may or may not play.


PAKISTAN:

They have been doing well, off late, just like us.

Surely , they have one of the finest bowling attacks currently.

But since CT, it's their bowlers that have been saving them(Apart from CT final).

They didn't manage to win a series against top teams, since many years.

This is their best chance, with a good bowling attack, good AR's and a thinking captain.

Will India prove that they deserve to be the no.1 team, or would it turn to be another away series loss?

Would Pakistan prove that they are truly one of the top sides currently, or it would similar story for them?

Some good competitive cricket could be seen in Jan and Feb.

 

[babajee]

Pakistan will need to make some changes if they are to win in NZ.

Firstly Junaid needs to be replaced by either Rumman or Shinwari.

Secondly Imad and Hafeez both need to be dropped for Faheem and Haris

If Junaid, Imad and Hafeez play then we will make it extremely difficult for ourselves to win the series.

 

[JattMaula]

India will lose bilateral ODI series against SA at home and away atm.

 

[CanadianG00se]

South Africa will hammer India 6-0.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

South Africa and New Zealand will win.

 

[DRsohail]

South Africa and New Zealand will win.

but both will be closed fought series,india has more chances to win than us but u never know if indian top 3 does not perform then u can judt dream for a win expecting the others to perfrom,bumrah,kohli and shikar dhawan will be the key .

 

[ethan hunt]

India has never won an ODI series in Southafrica . EVER.

 

[CanadianG00se]

but both will be closed fought series,india has more chances to win than us but u never know if indian top 3 does not perform then u can judt dream for a win expecting the others to perfrom,bumrah,kohli and shikar dhawan will be the key .

Man if you think India have any chances to win a series in SA than you're deluded. Not even die hard Indian fan think we have any chance of winning a game let alone series. With the sheer amount of passengers we carry in our team, i just hope we can somehow try to do better than what BD managed. Our aim should be try to salvage some respect with giving tough fight which I highly doubt.
Anything less than 6-0 will be huge disappointment for Saffas.

 

[mystical man]

India will lose bilateral ODI series against SA at home and away atm.

So then what is the use of boasting that this is the most complete Odi and test side in the world. They have to win everywhere to prove themselves as the best of this decade.

 

[CanadianG00se]

So then what is the use of boasting that this is the most complete Odi and test side in the world. They have to win everywhere to prove themselves as the best of this decade.

I dont think any Indian fan will boast about current team that has over the hill Dhoni, Kedar 'Useless' Jadhav, Dinesh 'Youngster' Karthick. This team is on par with Bangladesh

 

[Raja Sab]

India has never won an ODI series in Southafrica . EVER.

Pakistan only asian team to win one, 2013

 

[htariq25]

Pakistan will need to make some changes if they are to win in NZ.

Firstly Junaid needs to be replaced by either Rumman or Shinwari.

Secondly Imad and Hafeez both need to be dropped for Faheem and Haris

If Junaid, Imad and Hafeez play then we will make it extremely difficult for ourselves to win the series.

Bit harsh on junaid but agree Hafeez and imad must go. Junaid shouldn't be in the playing xi but should be in the squad as back up imo.
My xi would be:
Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Haris (if passes fitness test)
Malik
Sarfraz
Faheem
Shadab
Hasan
Amir
Rumman

Bench strength
Usman
Junaid
Azhar
Imad (back up spinner)

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

I've a feeling that India will do really well in South Africa. So will back them.

I'm also hopeful that Pakistan will win against New Zealand. It will be a close series but we should do this.

 

[aloo paratha]

I think south Africa will win 4-2, or maybe it will be 3-3 but really it depends on how well kohli plays. Bumrah is good and on his day bhuvi might be able to back him up.

The Pakistan, new Zealand series will be 3-2 either way I think. We need to get out combination right. Play Haris instead of Hafeez, azhar instead of imam or shehzad. Usman khan needs to replace Junaid, I think he is better than rumman too.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Pakistan and South Africa. AB will steal the show in next series. He is hungry to perform.

 

[Suleiman]

Even New Zealand's suspiciously sized grounds wont help them this time. Also no Anwar Ali to give freebies.

 

[aloo paratha]

Even New Zealand's suspiciously sized grounds wont help them this time. Also no Anwar Ali to give freebies.

Last time I checked the field size was the same for both teams

 

[munirnadeem]

Bit harsh on junaid but agree Hafeez and imad must go. Junaid shouldn't be in the playing xi but should be in the squad as back up imo.
My xi would be:
Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Haris (if passes fitness test)
Malik
Sarfraz
Faheem
Shadab
Hasan
Amir
Rumman

Bench strength
Usman
Junaid
Azhar
Imad (back up spinner)

I agree with this team only change i would make is usman for Rumman. As usman can wrek a havoc with supporting conditions.

Also as much as i would like, you cannot just remove hafeez as he has been slogging for past 2-3 series.

 

[munirnadeem]

https://youtu.be/bCzPwPJUExc

How do you keep junaid out after the above video

 

[babajee]

https://youtu.be/bCzPwPJUExc

How do you keep junaid out after the above video

He’s not the same bowler he was.

 

[IndYeah1]

India start the SA tour as slight favorites for the tests. SA comfortable favorites for the ODIs.

 

[Hasan123]

South Africa to beat India and Pakistan will beat NZ if they pick the right combination.

 

[Sin Nombre]

India will either draw the test series 1-1 or win it 2-1. Bold prediction but I think this is the most equipped Asian team.

India will lose the ODI series 1-5 or 0-6.

 

[giri26]

India will lose the ODI series in SA with this team. The team has no imagination and with Karthik, Jadhav, Dhoni and Pandya occupying spots 4-7 we are going to struggle in SA. Pandya isn't going to get too many spinners in SA and he needs to improve his game against the pacers. His bowling also needs to improve for him to be considered as India third seamer. India needs to somehow include Shami in ODI X1, otherwise they are going to struggle.

 

[giri26]

Pakistan vs NZ will be tight. It will depend on how Pakistan batting handles NZ bowlers. It will be a close series, cannot predict the winner in that.

 

[riz45]

I expect New Zealand to edge out Pakistan 3-2

I am unable to comment on the other series as I only watch Pakistan matches.

 

[Sachin136]

I dont think any Indian fan will boast about current team that has over the hill Dhoni, Kedar 'Useless' Jadhav, Dinesh 'Youngster' Karthick. This team is on par with Bangladesh

No need to get carried away just because your favorites aren't in the team.

 

[shane]

India wil lose because they are rubbish away from home.

Pakistan will lose because NZ are excellent at home.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

India wil lose because they are rubbish away from home.

Pakistan will lose because NZ are excellent at home.

All teams are rubbish away from home so are Pak.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

I've a feeling that India will do really well in South Africa. So will back them.

I'm also hopeful that Pakistan will win against New Zealand. It will be a close series but we should do this.

Dude!! Where have you been ?? Humor has been dying a slow painful death on PP these days Missed reading your posts in recent times....

 

[wrongun]

I'll tip SA over India at home. I think their pace attack is better, but India are a strong side these days. They could well prove me wrong.

Really fascinated to see NZ vs Pakistan. I suspect NZ's batting will be more effective in home conditions and their bowlers do well at home too, so should just about match Pakistan.
NZ in a close series.

 

[another drop catch]

I believe India will closely edge out Africa in a closely fought series
whereas Pakistan will show its negatie mentality and will lose the series from winning positions

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Sa & nz

 

[austerlitz]

Calibre of indian middle order will be tested,as will the limitations of 2 wrist spinners strategy away from home.

Calibre of young pak batsmen will be also tested and see if guys like azam live up to their newfound hype.

 

[Benchwarmer]

>SA to win by 2-0 in tests.
>Hope that ODI series is highly competitive & results in 3-3 so that no other board would ever arrange ODI Series with even number of matches.
>Expecting India to lose T20 series by 1-2 with AB going absolutely beserk in one of the matches.
>NZ to win by 4-1 against Pakistan in ODI's
>Pakistan to win T20 series by 2-1.

 

[Haz95]

NZ are giving India in India a run for their money, at home they'll be even more comfy. I see them winning 3-2 against Pakistan.

The treatment SA gave Bangladesh may well be the same against India like they did back in 13(?). I see this being a big batfest which I think SA will take. Especially if Miller or AB fire.

 

[Hermoine Green]

South Africa and New Zealand i tink.

 

[90MPH]

Pakistan lost the last series against NZ because of some really unusual poor bowling.

Pak's bowling is now much stronger so I think it will be a 50/50 series.

 

[CanadianG00se]

No need to get carried away just because your favorites aren't in the team.

i dont have favourites unlike you. Im only disappointed with same garbage players being recycled. since CT how many new players were given chance??

 

[bujhee kom]

Saffers 4-2 (maybe 5-1 but 4-2 more likely).
NZ 3-2 (maybe 4-1).

 

[Sherlock]

SA's bowling is still not quit right for me. Something's missing [no, not Steyn]. Batting shouldn't be a problem as much. I do expect India to edge this though.

NZ to beat Pakistan.

 

[Khan12]

Calibre of indian middle order will be tested,as will the limitations of 2 wrist spinners strategy away from home.

Calibre of young pak batsmen will be also tested and see if guys like azam live up to their newfound hype.

Last time he toured New Zealand his score were 61 and 83 if i am not wrong.

 

[InziRules]

Depends on the tracks. If they're flat, we stand an okay chance, if they're good for bowling, we might fluke a win but will also be destroyed

 

[troodon]

India vs SA
SA will win this handsomely. They can potentially send the likes of MSD, Karthik, Jadhav to retirement.
QDK, AB will score centuries for fun. Even Faf will score some fifties.
Rabada, Morkel and Steyn(though old) will be too much for Indian top order. Middle order will collapse like a pack of cards.
India will be lucky to win even one match.

Pak vs NZ
This will be a closely contested series. Won't be easy for Pakistan. I still have Pak winning this by a close margin.
Pak bowlers will be too much for Kiwis.
Kiwi bowlers will expose Pak batting. If Babar fails, Pak will lose the series. I have a feeling, Babar will score just enough to give Pak bowlers a chance to defend.

 

[Syed1]

The last time we toured NZ this was our bowling attack in the last ODI:




Amir was still the standout bowler. Thankfully we don't have Irfan, Wahab, Rahat and Azhar. Malik is hardly required to roll his arm over these days.


Pakistani bowling is a hundred times better than what it was when we last toured. Rest assured Kiwis will not be winning.

 

[Khan12]

The last time we toured NZ this was our bowling attack in the last ODI:

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Amir was still the standout bowler. Thankfully we don't have Irfan, Wahab, Rahat and Azhar. Malik is hardly required to roll his arm over these days.


Pakistani bowling is a hundred times better than what it was when we last toured. Rest assured Kiwis will not be winning.

God how awful was that bowling. But i think you forgot the legend Anwar Ali who also played that series lol.

 

[Syed1]

God how awful was that bowling. But i think you forgot the legend Anwar Ali who also played that series lol.

Not only played, he was opening the bowling



And then they say what has Saifi done for the side.


Sarfaraz >>>> Misbah >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Azhar

 

[Khan12]

Not only played, he was opening the bowling



And then they say what has Saifi done for the side.


Sarfaraz >>>> Misbah >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Azhar

Sarfaraz is million times a better skipper then both, but still he needs to improve is a lot of aspects as well.

 

[Syed1]

Sarfaraz is million times a better skipper then both, but still he needs to improve is a lot of aspects as well.

Agreed, he needs to perform with the bat sooner than later otherwise the murmurs of deposing him will only get stronger and stronger.



Fun fact: Alot of PP'ers used to say Sarfaraz only plays friends but Anwar and Saifi are close friends and he hasn't even featured in a year or so

 

[Nikhil_cric]

SA to win 4-2 and expose the likes of Dhoni, Jadhav and co. hopefully. I think PAK-NZ will be a lot closer than last time. I expect 3-2 for PAK.

 

[troodon]

SA to win 4-2 and expose the likes of Dhoni, Jadhav and co. hopefully. I think PAK-NZ will be a lot closer than last time. I expect 3-2 for PAK.

We would be lucky if we can lose this 5-1. India is a poor ODI team.

 

[Khan12]

Agreed, he needs to perform with the bat sooner than later otherwise the murmurs of deposing him will only get stronger and stronger.



Fun fact: Alot of PP'ers used to say Sarfaraz only plays friends but Anwar and Saifi are close friends and he hasn't even featured in a year or so

His batting will come good when he decides to move up the order. he is not a number 6 bat. he should swap positins with Malik who is a much better hitter. Also need to get rid of Hafeez and play Haris at 4. Can't believe he is on the bench for mr cheater.

I do agree with that fact but he seems to be cutting it down down now which is great and was pleasently surprised that we didn't see nawaz tough i will take him over imad any day, but still got much better options then them 2. I hope he does the same when he skippers Quetta in PSL becuase there is a lot of his friends in that team, such as nawaz, asad, anwer saad, zulfi. But,i don't care much about that as long as we don't see them in Pak colours.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

We would be lucky if we can lose this 5-1. India is a poor ODI team.

I think we can win 2 matches somehow. We are a poor ODI team no doubt but I don't think SA are that strong either to whitewash us.

 

[Syed1]

I think we can win 2 matches somehow. We are a poor ODI team no doubt but I don't think SA are that strong either to whitewash us.

It will be 3-3

 

[Nikhil_cric]

It will be 3-3

Don't think so. QDK,Amla,AB,Faf,Markram is a strong batting lineup. And their bowling of Morne, Rabada,Tahir is pretty good too. Indian ODI batting lineup will get exposed if there's something in it for the quicker bowlers.

 

[Syed1]

Don't think so. QDK,Amla,AB,Faf,Markram is a strong batting lineup. And their bowling of Morne, Rabada,Tahir is pretty good too. Indian ODI batting lineup will get exposed if there's something in it for the quicker bowlers.

Their batting is good, but Indian batting better. Also Tahir won't be a big threat to India. All depends on how good a tour Indian pacers have.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Their batting is good, but Indian batting better. Also Tahir won't be a big threat to India. All depends on how good a tour Indian pacers have.

If it swings under lights like it did last time we were here, Dhawan and Rohit will flop like there's no tomorrow. And then we have utter dross like Jadhav and grandpa Dhoni. What better batting lineup? It's kohli it bust.

 

[Pete Rose]

Smart money would be on NZ in NZ.
Not yet convinced by Paksitan's batting:
hafeez and malik both looking a million dollars against Sri Lanka (in fact SL has done more to prolong Hafeez, Malik, and Afridi's career than any other team).
Imam ul haq is a plodder and we'll see that in NZ (happy to be bashed if I am proven wrong)
We just dont have a reliable alternative to Sharjeel whose loss is a big blow.
Babar Azam? we'll see.

 

[Khan12]

Smart money would be on NZ in NZ.
Not yet convinced by Paksitan's batting:
hafeez and malik both looking a million dollars against Sri Lanka (in fact SL has done more to prolong Hafeez, Malik, and Afridi's career than any other team).
Imam ul haq is a plodder and we'll see that in NZ (happy to be bashed if I am proven wrong)
We just dont have a reliable alternative to Sharjeel whose loss is a big blow.
Babar Azam? we'll see.

do you think shafiq derserves another crack? insted of maybe haris and babar?

 

[CanadianG00se]

Lmao Pakistani fans overrating this crappy India team. We would be extremely lucky it we avoid whitewash. Last time we went there QdK smashed 3 hundreds against us. He must be roaring to go and smash few more hundreds.

6-0 on the cards.

 

[DRsohail]

do you think shafiq derserves another crack? insted of maybe haris and babar?

shafiq???naam amt loo yaar/

 

[DRsohail]

Lmao Pakistani fans overrating this crappy India team. We would be extremely lucky it we avoid whitewash. Last time we went there QdK smashed 3 hundreds against us. He must be roaring to go and smash few more hundreds.

6-0 on the cards.

bumrah and kohli can give them tough time if other support them but dhoni and jadav are liabilities i this team.

 

[Heisenberg111]

India will win 4-2, Pak to lose 2-3.

 

[Khan12]

shafiq???naam amt loo yaar/

he hasn't been given a fair chance. Let him bat at babar postion and then watch.

 

[CanadianG00se]

bumrah and kohli can give them tough time if other support them but dhoni and jadav are liabilities i this team.

lol two player cannot always win u games. I cant recall when was last timw Bumrah won India a game outside of India.

Mark my words series will be pretty much same as SA v BD was or perhaps even worse.

SA should allow India to bat twice to make matches competitive.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

5-1 South Africa.

3-2 either way. It really depends on the team we play. Looking forward to this series.

 

[Pete Rose]

do you think shafiq derserves another crack? insted of maybe haris and babar?

I can’t say that with a straight face. Problems are at opener level and late middle order.

 

[waleed88]

NewZealand has been Pakistan's nemesis off late

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

4-2, to SA

3-2, to either NZ/ PAK

 

[Ali_1985]

Can Pakistan beat NZ in NZ? What should be playing X1

Pakistan have been superb in 2017 limited over cricket, mainly due to Bowling, will they manage to beat NZ in NZ, I think this is the real challenge.
My playing X1
Azhar
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Malik
Hafeez / Imad (Subject to Hafeez test result)
Sarfaraz
Shadab
Amir
Hassan
Junaid / Shanwari/ Rumman

 

[Forum363]

I think the majority of the team picks itself. They will have to make a decision between Azhar and Imam both of whom have been very good in the last matches they played. They are both slower than we ideally want. If I had to choose between them I would go with Azhar since he is superior against pace and Imam seemed to be struggling with the swing early on in the UAE so not sure if he will cope with New Zealand.

The biggest issue with the team, which they don't seem to be addressing because the team is winning, is Sarfaraz's batting position. He is a very good ODI batsman and ideal for the middle overs. It is a complete no brainer that he should be batting at 4, with Malik at 5.

I actually have wanted Hafeez out of the team for a long time but now I am thinking, for the short term, he is the most suitable at number 6. We don't have any other players who can time the ball like hafeez from the start (when he feels like it). I know Haris is waiting on the bench but it would be terrible for his development to bring him in at 6.

 

[Test champion]

fakhar ,hafeez ,malik are walking wicket in nz

 

[Ali_1985]

India Vs SA will be a close series, I am expecting a high scoring series considering the quality of batsmen both team have.. Hardly any home advantage to SA due to huge Indian support in SA

PAK Vs NZ: NZ will win, Pak can't win matches only on bowling and there batting is not yet capable of making or chasing 300+...In NZ mostly drop in pitches with short boundries, 300 is par on most venues in NZ

 

[The_Odd_One]

I think SA and NZ will win. The reason is simple, the ODI tracks are going to belters and both SA and NZ have far better hitters in their batting line ups. SA, specially is packed with such players.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Ithink SA and NZ will win. The reason is simple, the ODI tracks are going to belters and both SA and NZ have far better hitters in their batting line ups. SA, specially is packed with such players.

Im surprised that you ‘Think’ SA would win. Any sane cricket fan would tell you that India getting a beatdown is certain, there is no escape.

 

[nam]

Sa 4-2
nz 4-1

 

[The_Odd_One]

Im surprised that you ‘Think’ SA would win. Any sane cricket fan would tell you that India getting a beatdown is certain, there is no escape.

You can never be certain in Cricket. Indian top order is too slow to score 350+ against better attacks.

 

[CanadianG00se]

You can never be certain in Cricket. Indian top order is too slow to score 350+ against better attacks.

Just like Death is certain, Similarly Indian phainty is certain.

Bookmark this thread and we shall come back when series is over.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

Rohit gaining form

 

[Amjid Javed]

India start the SA tour as slight favorites for the tests. SA comfortable favorites for the ODIs.

Slight favourite for tests? based on what?