Indian politician compares Muslim children to 'pollution' in tweet

[Professor]

NEW DELHI: Former AAP MLA Kapil Mishra, who recently joined the BJP, on Monday drew flak on social media over a controversial tweet which the RJD alleged was stoking communal hatred, but he maintained that he was trying to raise awareness on the need for population control.

The tweet was later taken down by Twitter for violating its guidelines.

"If you want pollution to come down, then you should reduce these firecrackers and not the ones burst on Diwali," Mishra tweeted tagging a photograph of an elderly man with a skull cap and several children along with women in burqa, waiting in a queue.

The Rashtriya Janata Dal (RJD) hit out at Mishra, accusing him of comparing "Muslim children to pollution" for his "petty politics" and stoking acrimony in society.

Mishra, a former AAP MLA who was disqualified as member of the Delhi's Legislative Assembly, hit back saying he had only posted pictures of children but "they are seeing them as Muslims".

"There is no mention of Hindu or Muslim in my tweet.


The since-deleted tweet
"If the picture would have been of a Hindu family, would they have reacted in the same manner," he tweeted.

One of the social media users, who lashed out at Mishra, said: "one should not stoop down to such a level just for a ticket that it is event difficult to get up".

There was also a hashtag in support of Mishra which was trending for some time.

Mishra, however, said he is only advocating population control but is being abused and threatened on phone and social media for his tweet.

"There is so much fear after one tweet. What will these people do when the population control law comes in place, " he tweeted referring to criticism on social media.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...to-pollution-in-tweet-draws-flak-2053863.html

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Is it written in BJP's guidelines that each MLA has to give at least 2 controversial statements regarding Muslims every month?

 

[KingKhanWC]

BJP worlds biggest extremist government. But if Indian Muslims are happy to take regular abuse from their Hindutva government, it really is their problem.

 

[Hitman]

And he is the biggest waste in the already overbearing population of our country. Wish PP allowed me to curse.

 

[Redchilly007]

He was advising population control. I am sure "seculars" would have no issues if a pundit was shown instead of a person with skull cap.

 

[Professor]

He was advising population control. I am sure "seculars" would have no issues if a pundit was shown instead of a person with skull cap.

Why did he have to post a picture of a family wearing religious clothing? It’s pretty obvious he wanted to target Muslims.

If the intention was to bring attention to population control then why not just use a picture of a family without any religious symbols?

 

[kk1992]

He was advising population control. I am sure "seculars" would have no issues if a pundit was shown instead of a person with skull cap.

Highlight two important points.

India is not a secular country, no matter how many RSS supporters disguised as secular Indian repeat the same thing over and over.

Indian, particularly RSS are inherently racist toward minorities, particularly Muslims.

 

[Slog]

He was advising population control. I am sure "seculars" would have no issues if a pundit was shown instead of a person with skull cap.

Wow what a disgrace

 

[Professor]

And he is the biggest waste in the already overbearing population of our country. Wish PP allowed me to curse.

The scariest thing is that you have people defending his crazy hateful views. There was a twitter trend in his support and even in this thread you have a poster defending him.

 

[Abdullah719]

The scariest thing is that you have people defending his crazy hateful views. There was a twitter trend in his support and even in this thread you have a poster defending him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Top trend in India is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IStandWithKapilMishra?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IStandWithKapilMishra</a><br><br>In support of BJP member <a href="https://twitter.com/KapilMishra_IND?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KapilMishra_IND</a> (700K+ followers). <br><br>Account was restricted after he posted a pic of Muslim kids & wrote “to control pollution, reduce them instead” of the firecrackers used during the Hindu Diwali festival. <a href="https://t.co/AlSI3bPMcB">pic.twitter.com/AlSI3bPMcB</a></p>— Arif Rafiq (@ArifCRafiq) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArifCRafiq/status/1188852347440697345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Patriot]

A lot of Indians on Twitter are advocating for a one child policy. It’s a bad idea as China found out with families aborting girls and preferring boys.

 

[Redchilly007]

Highlight two important points.

India is not a secular country, no matter how many RSS supporters disguised as secular Indian repeat the same thing over and over.

Indian, particularly RSS are inherently racist toward minorities, particularly Muslims.

You are passing judgement on basis of one statement. I am sure you don't mind when people call an entire country terrorist state because some of its citizens are caught doing terrorist activities in other countries.

 

[troodon]

Epic fail from this Kapil guy.

Saw the picture and it clearly shows an old man with 4 women(probably his daughters) and 2 young men (Son-in-laws) perhaps. This is a typical large family irrespective of religion.

While I support population control, targeting Muslims only is wrong. There are tons of Hindu families with over 3 kids. If this Kapil guy had guts he would have posted a picture of slum dwellers and people living in gutters with tons of kids too. But he won't. He does not want to lose his vote bank.

 

[Redchilly007]

Why did he have to post a picture of a family wearing religious clothing? It’s pretty obvious he wanted to target Muslims.

If the intention was to bring attention to population control then why not just use a picture of a family without any religious symbols?

In a ideal world it should have been a neutral picture, unfortunately this world is far from being that.
He used the picture of the community whose birth rate is the highest in the country. It can be called mean but not irrelevant.

 

[Hitman]

The scariest thing is that you have people defending his crazy hateful views. There was a twitter trend in his support and even in this thread you have a poster defending him.

I swear I’d be glad at such people’s death. Yes, I said it. They don’t deserve to live in the civilised society amongst us.

 

[Redchilly007]

I swear I’d be glad at such people’s death. Yes, I said it. They don’t deserve to live in the civilised society amongst us.

So much hate and so much intolerance... This is what causing the growth in Modi's camp.

I can only wish you to get well.

 

[troodon]

So much hate and so much intolerance... This is what causing the growth in Modi's camp.

I can only wish you to get well.

If you cannot see the negative comments against Muslims in India by BJP ministers, then nobody can help you.
Irrespective of political affinity, you should condemn these types of comments when people in power bark on social media.

 

[kk1992]

You are passing judgement on basis of one statement. I am sure you don't mind when people call an entire country terrorist state because some of its citizens are caught doing terrorist activities in other countries.

You, yourself accused everyone who does not agree with a tweet or you for supporting secularism.

I don’t think you know what you are talking about.

And if you are getting triggered by anyone calling out group like RSS for what they are then it support my point.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

So much hate and so much intolerance... This is what causing the growth in Modi's camp.

I can only wish you to get well.

Extremists like Modi and his bjp are the cause of many lynchings and torture

In a sense India’s recruitment of the ikwhan in Kashmir and the kidnap of so many triggered the rise of isis who were sent to do exactly the same in Syria once Assad and his minority’s governmentwas under attack

 

[JaDed]

Extremists like Modi and his bjp are the cause of many lynchings and torture

In a sense India’s recruitment of the ikwhan in Kashmir and the kidnap of so many triggered the rise of isis who were sent to do exactly the same in Syria once Assad and his minority’s governmentwas under attack

Yeah if trigger excuses are to be used, let me give you one about how Muslim league triggered the creation of RSS..

Probably you love one of them, a Muslim League supporter is no diff to me than a RSS one.

 

[Professor]

You are passing judgement on basis of one statement. I am sure you don't mind when people call an entire country terrorist state because some of its citizens are caught doing terrorist activities in other countries.

It’s not just one statement though, anti Muslim statements seem to be coming every week from BJP members . Also the top Twitter trend in India was supporting this guy, so clearly it’s more than just one or two statements.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why did he have to post a picture of a family wearing religious clothing? It’s pretty obvious he wanted to target Muslims.

If the intention was to bring attention to population control then why not just use a picture of a family without any religious symbols?

When a muslim leader says that muslims wont adhere to population laws as they are not islamic, then somewhere it brings religion into the forefront.


https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....am-govt-s-new-job-criteria-1613192-2019-10-27

 

[cric_man]

When a muslim leader says that muslims wont adhere to population laws as they are not islamic, then somewhere it brings religion into the forefront.


https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....am-govt-s-new-job-criteria-1613192-2019-10-27

I read the article you posted. It does not criminalize having more than 2 children. The law will disqualify you from having a government job if you have more than 2. The law itself is essentially a poll tax to disenfranchise the muslim population which unfortunately will look at population control as un-islamic (yet will do a lot of other things which are strictly prohibited).
However how did you rationalize it to be ok in referring to Muslims as pollution because muslims conscientiously oped out (making themselves ineligible) for gov jobs in Assam?

 

[Varun]

Which tweet/statement will it take to break the back of the BJP?

One day, all this will add up. Just wait and watch.

 

[Akki malhotra]

Oh BJP why digging own grave. Congress is at their worst phase and there is no one to challenge you but your some illiterate ministers giving chance to others.
Overpopulation has become curse in India. We need strong law against every community for the same. But i dnt think any party has dare to do this.
BJP should better concentrate on economy now.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I read the article you posted. It does not criminalize having more than 2 children. The law will disqualify you from having a government job if you have more than 2. The law itself is essentially a poll tax to disenfranchise the muslim population which unfortunately will look at population control as un-islamic (yet will do a lot of other things which are strictly prohibited).
However how did you rationalize it to be ok in referring to Muslims as pollution because muslims conscientiously oped out (making themselves ineligible) for gov jobs in Assam?

It will disqualify anyone who has mire than 2 children from govt jobs. India is not an Islamic country and with 83% non muslim population will never have laws conforming to islam. Thats the reality. If muslim leaders think they need special treatment o that they wont adhere to laws and bring religion into it, then thats the start of bringing religion into law.

The politician who posted the tweet put forward a pertinent point in rather crude and unwarranted way.

But one had to realise the background behind it.

About time muslims realize that world is not going to run according to islam, and they must keep religion personal. Bringing religion into everything will only end up segregating them as a group that refuses to integrate.

 

[cricketjoshila]

A lot of Indians on Twitter are advocating for a one child policy. It’s a bad idea as China found out with families aborting girls and preferring boys.

Somewhere india has to bring in population control laws. May be a 2 child policy.

 

[Itachi]

Somewhere india has to bring in population control laws. May be a 2 child policy.

In govt sectors, it is already unofficially encouraged. You can get benefits for your kids limited to 2 (maternity/paternity leave, child care, child education allowance). More than 2, you can't claim.

 

[cric_man]

It will disqualify anyone who has mire than 2 children from govt jobs. India is not an Islamic country and with 83% non muslim population will never have laws conforming to islam. Thats the reality. If muslim leaders think they need special treatment o that they wont adhere to laws and bring religion into it, then thats the start of bringing religion into law.

The politician who posted the tweet put forward a pertinent point in rather crude and unwarranted way.

But one had to realise the background behind it.

About time muslims realize that world is not going to run according to islam, and they must keep religion personal. Bringing religion into everything will only end up segregating them as a group that refuses to integrate.

I re-read the article. Where did the muslims ask for special treatment?
Gov of Assam created a law which does not make it against the law to have more than 2 children. It will disqualify you from having a gov job. And the muslims of Assam will simply forego the gov jobs.
Where does it say that they demanded special treatment....

This is similar to how my health insurance works. I pay $300 a month for my premium. If I certify that I am a non smoker, I get a $50 discount. Does not make smoking illegal. And by smoking I am not committing a felony.

Please don't try to equate this to something like Muslims are holding whole of India hostage or trying to bend it to their will.

You are saying one guy is a racist because of something the other may have done???

 

[Professor]

Which tweet/statement will it take to break the back of the BJP?

One day, all this will add up. Just wait and watch.

If social media is anything to go by their base love hateful tweets like this so statements like these would probably not hurt them.

However if they or one of their members mistakenly talk about about peace with Pakistan or not torturing Kashmiris then that may prove to be back breaking.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I re-read the article. Where did the muslims ask for special treatment?
Gov of Assam created a law which does not make it against the law to have more than 2 children. It will disqualify you from having a gov job. And the muslims of Assam will simply forego the gov jobs.
Where does it say that they demanded special treatment....

This is similar to how my health insurance works. I pay $300 a month for my premium. If I certify that I am a non smoker, I get a $50 discount. Does not make smoking illegal. And by smoking I am not committing a felony.

Please don't try to equate this to something like Muslims are holding whole of India hostage or trying to bend it to their will.

You are saying one guy is a racist because of something the other may have done???

Muslims will continue to produce children, they will not listen to anyone. Now, the government has brought this law to stop Muslims from having jobs.

Whatever laws you make, they will have no impact on the Muslims. Tampering with nature is not good. Muslims will do whatever they want to bear children. Don't shout later that we have more children. Don't fight with nature."

Can you tell me what is he trying to say here?

I am saying that muslim politicians bring religion into everything, a hindu politician did it this time. And no it doesn't mske it right. But this is not a one way street.

 

[Tiger96]

Which tweet/statement will it take to break the back of the BJP?

One day, all this will add up. Just wait and watch.

Yeah Hindus will start voting in masses for Congress because they love Islam and Musalmaans so much.

 

[Danyaalr01]

In a ideal world it should have been a neutral picture, unfortunately this world is far from being that.
He used the picture of the community whose birth rate is the highest in the country. It can be called mean but not irrelevant.

He not only compared the Muslim family to pollution, but he basically called them suicide bombers. He basically called them terrorists.

What do you take from this statement: "...reduce these firecrackers and not the ones burst on Diwali.".

If that isn't religious discrimination then what it?

 

[Patriot]

I don’t understand where this view that muslims will continue to reproduce is coming from. India is more than a billion people not just because of Muslims, it’s because of the population as a whole regardless of religion. The problem is that people from lower socioeconomic backgrounds have more kids and India has a lot of people from lower socioeconomic backgrounds. As India becomes more developed, and standard of living improves, birth rates will fall. You don’t need child limitation policies for that. All you need is to develop your country.

Birth control isn’t exactly something that is against Islam. The views that somehow Muslims are the only ones breeding like rabbits is just wrong.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Should have posted a picture of Lalu Prasad Yadav with his 'LaalTen' instead.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don’t understand where this view that muslims will continue to reproduce is coming from. India is more than a billion people not just because of Muslims, it’s because of the population as a whole regardless of religion. The problem is that people from lower socioeconomic backgrounds have more kids and India has a lot of people from lower socioeconomic backgrounds. As India becomes more developed, and standard of living improves, birth rates will fall. You don’t need child limitation policies for that. All you need is to develop your country.

Birth control isn’t exactly something that is against Islam. The views that somehow Muslims are the only ones breeding like rabbits is just wrong.

There is a difference between the fertility rates of Muslims and other communities in India.

 

[big_gamer007]

Over population is the biggest cause of concern for us. It should be taken seriously, by using religion in tweets the core issue gets diluted and people start talking about hindu/muslims. No one seems to realize how big this issue is.

 

[Varun]

Yeah Hindus will start voting in masses for Congress because they love Islam and Musalmaans so much.

Or they sit at home and non-BJP MPs/MLAs have it easier a la Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Chattisgarh last year.

You're welcome, genius.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

About time muslims realize that world is not going to run according to islam, and they must keep religion personal. Bringing religion into everything will only end up segregating them as a group that refuses to integrate.

Actually you are the one who is continually posting negatively about Muslims in every post in this thread. There is an easy answer to make the 2 child rule policy for everyone regardless of religion.

 

[cric_man]

Muslims will continue to produce children, they will not listen to anyone. Now, the government has brought this law to stop Muslims from having jobs.

Whatever laws you make, they will have no impact on the Muslims. Tampering with nature is not good. Muslims will do whatever they want to bear children. Don't shout later that we have more children. Don't fight with nature."

Can you tell me what is he trying to say here?

I am saying that muslim politicians bring religion into everything, a hindu politician did it this time. And no it doesn't make it right. But this is not a one way street.

Your inherent bias against Muslims come out all the time. I read the article you cited, it didnot say anything of the sort you blamed the Muslims for? There is a difference b/w penal laws and these other policy laws.
Are Muslims of India disregarding traffic laws or financial impropriety laws stating that they are exempt from paying taxes or stopping at the traffic lights?

Unfortunately you will twist like a pretzel to justify Racism and bigotry directed at Muslims because of perceived actions of the Muslims.

 

[topspin]

Muslims will continue to produce children, they will not listen to anyone. Now, the government has brought this law to stop Muslims from having jobs.

Whatever laws you make, they will have no impact on the Muslims. Tampering with nature is not good. Muslims will do whatever they want to bear children. Don't shout later that we have more children. Don't fight with nature."

Can you tell me what is he trying to say here?

I am saying that muslim politicians bring religion into everything, a hindu politician did it this time. And no it doesn't mske it right. But this is not a one way street.

I am surprised the Mods have allowed this to stay up for long as it has because this is hate speech.

You remind me of those Islamphobic Indians who have their heads stuck in the rear ends of the far right like Tommy Robinson and Britain First. If this is how you conduct yourself on a moderated forum, then I can't even imagine how obnoxious you are on platforms such as Youtube and Twitter.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Actually you are the one who is continually posting negatively about Muslims in every post in this thread. There is an easy answer to make the 2 child rule policy for everyone regardless of religion.

The Assam laws says no govt job for anyone with more than two children.

But muslim politician comes and says that its unislamic and and muslims wont adherr to it and its a conspiracy to keep Muslims out of govt jobs.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Your inherent bias against Muslims come out all the time. I read the article you cited, it didnot say anything of the sort you blamed the Muslims for? There is a difference b/w penal laws and these other policy laws.
Are Muslims of India disregarding traffic laws or financial impropriety laws stating that they are exempt from paying taxes or stopping at the traffic lights?

Unfortunately you will twist like a pretzel to justify Racism and bigotry directed at Muslims because of perceived actions of the Muslims.

A law is made in Assam. Its applicable on every one.

But somehow muslim politician says muslims wont adhere to it and its unislamic and that its a conspiracy to keep muslims out of govt jobs.

Is the law muslim specific? No.

Is India going to make laws according to islam? No.

Can anyone not obey the law and get away with it? No

Just FYI Muslims threatened to riot if the loudspeaker ban was enforced on their places of worship. So yes due to politics muslims get away with breaking laws.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I am surprised the Mods have allowed this to stay up for long as it has because this is hate speech.

You remind me of those Islamphobic Indians who have their heads stuck in the rear ends of the far right like Tommy Robinson and Britain First. If this is how you conduct yourself on a moderated forum, then I can't even imagine how obnoxious you are on platforms such as Youtube and Twitter.

I did not say this. A muslim leader said this. The article link is posted above.

You remind me of those who cry victim and islamophobia at the drop of a hat.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The Assam laws says no govt job for anyone with more than two children.

But muslim politician comes and says that its unislamic and and muslims wont adherr to it and its a conspiracy to keep Muslims out of govt jobs.

What Muslim politicians say is his right like every other citizen, doesn't mean laws are going to bend for him or any other Muslims. All you had to say was the law should be 2 children for everybody in India, but instead you have continued to huff and bluster complaints about Muslims in this thread. Indian Muslims I should add, you can't even say you are attacking arch enemy Pakistan here.

 

[Patriot]

There is a difference between the fertility rates of Muslims and other communities in India.

Not by much. So to overreact over this is wrong.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....fertility-gap-tells-us/amp-1550686404387.html

 

[cricketjoshila]

What Muslim politicians say is his right like every other citizen, doesn't mean laws are going to bend for him or any other Muslims. All you had to say was the law should be 2 children for everybody in India, but instead you have continued to huff and bluster complaints about Muslims in this thread. Indian Muslims I should add, you can't even say you are attacking arch enemy Pakistan here.

To say one will not obey the law and then trying to incite people by saying they are being targeted is not anyone's right.

I am attacking a politician who says he has no respect for my country's law.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Not by much. So to overreact over this is wrong.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....fertility-gap-tells-us/amp-1550686404387.html

This article says that the diff is 23.8%.

 

[kk1992]

There are close to a billion Hindus in India and about 200+ million Muslims.

and we get a lecture on fertility rate, the idea is to decrease the fertility rate of minority and increase the fertility rate of Hindus.

And, RSS supporters are moaning about Muslims population control?

Bigotry and ignorance is at display by educated RSS supporters.

 

[Patriot]

This article says that the diff is 23.8%.

Yeah half a birth on average difference. Hindu women likely to have 2.1 births and Muslim women 2.6. The article points out that it’s declining and stabilising.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Yeah if trigger excuses are to be used, let me give you one about how Muslim league triggered the creation of RSS..

Probably you love one of them, a Muslim League supporter is no diff to me than a RSS one.

Are we talking about the shuddi movement?
What triggered the start of the tanzeem movement

What are your thoughts on Saifidin kitchlew?

 

[JaDed]

Are we talking about the shuddi movement?
What triggered the start of the tanzeem movement

What are your thoughts on Saifidin kitchlew?

My view is to hell with religion, agnosticism and atheism all the way esp after a nation is formed.

What about Kitchlew? How does he fit in here?

 

[PakLFC]

Why are Muslim and not Hindu kids called pollution? Muslim's in India going overboard in wishing Hindu's "happy Diwali" and the like of Shahrukh even wearing a "tilak" only to be reminded what Hindu's fundo's think off them.

 

[MP2011]

There are close to a billion Hindus in India and about 200+ million Muslims.

and we get a lecture on fertility rate, the idea is to decrease the fertility rate of minority and increase the fertility rate of Hindus.

And, RSS supporters are moaning about Muslims population control?

Bigotry and ignorance is at display by educated RSS supporters.

Do you know what's the biggest irony? The one (Assam CM) who announced this dictatorial farmaan, himself is 8th child of his parents!

lol, couldn't more ironic! If this Sonowal guy has got guts and is really serious about curbing this problem, will he resign from CMship?

 

[MP2011]

Its such an idiotic thing to relate population control with Muslims only. However this is one area where you can safely assume that its only bloody sanghis who've this single point of agenda to paint everything into Hindu-Muslim thing since they are ganwaars of the highest order and have nothing else to do. Quite a few on this thread are case in point.

 

[MP2011]

Have seen so many hindus who have been producing 4-5 kids (still) without much ado. My maid (including her own) and her relatives have all 4-5 kids minimum. My driver has a friend (mind you a hindu) has 7 daughters and a son!

Muslims too have such cases so its not good to paint Muslims only as sinners in this regard.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Do you know what's the biggest irony? The one (Assam CM) who announced this dictatorial farmaan, himself is 8th child of his parents!

lol, couldn't more ironic! If this Sonowal guy has got guts and is really serious about curbing this problem, will he resign from CMship?

So Sonowal being 8th child his Sonowals fault or his parents? Sonowal himself is a bachelor.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yeah half a birth on average difference. Hindu women likely to have 2.1 births and Muslim women 2.6. The article points out that it’s declining and stabilising.

2.1 is replacement level fertility rate. 2.6 isnt.

 

[Redchilly007]

Have seen so many hindus who have been producing 4-5 kids (still) without much ado. My maid (including her own) and her relatives have all 4-5 kids minimum. My driver has a friend (mind you a hindu) has 7 daughters and a son!

Muslims too have such cases so its not good to paint Muslims only as sinners in this regard.

I agree that Muslims are not to be solely blamed for not following 2 child policy. In other communities it's mostly not so educated people who do it however I have observed that even educated Muslims don't follow 2 child policy.

In my work place I know 4 people who have more than 2 children. 1 is a Hindu and 3 are Muslims. Hindu guy had triplets so can't really blame him but this is not the case with rest of the three. More worrying factor is that out of the 4 people only Hindu guy is remorseful of having more than 2 children.

 

[Patriot]

2.1 is replacement level fertility rate. 2.6 isnt.

No. 2.1 is replacement level in developed countries. In countries with higher fertility rates, replacement level is higher. So Indian fertility rate is already below replacement level.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

There are close to a billion Hindus in India and about 200+ million Muslims.

and we get a lecture on fertility rate, the idea is to decrease the fertility rate of minority and increase the fertility rate of Hindus.

And, RSS supporters are moaning about Muslims population control?

Bigotry and ignorance is at display by educated RSS supporters.

Ignore that dumb post by joshila please and tell him that the real reason of increasing population is not religion but illiteracy. There are 20 crore muslims in India but what about the rest of the 100 crores? Who is responsible for that?

 

[cricketjoshila]

No. 2.1 is replacement level in developed countries. In countries with higher fertility rates, replacement level is higher. So Indian fertility rate is already below replacement level.

Can you provide a source to back up this claim?

 

[Patriot]

Can you provide a source to back up this claim?

Yeah, from a medical journal as opposed to a news article.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7834459/

It’s not specifically geared to India but it explains what replacement fertility is. If 2.1 is for the West, India’s should be higher due to a higher population and India on average has a fertility of 2.2, which should be below replacement levels for it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

To say one will not obey the law and then trying to incite people by saying they are being targeted is not anyone's right.

I am attacking a politician who says he has no respect for my country's law.

No you aren't, now you are deflecting. These are your actual quotes in this thread:

"About time muslims realize that world is not going to run according to islam, and they must keep religion personal. Bringing religion into everything will only end up segregating them as a group that refuses to integrate."

"Muslims will continue to produce children, they will not listen to anyone. "

"There is a difference between the fertility rates of Muslims and other communities in India."


Once again I remind you, you are talking about your own fellow Indians, not Pakistan.

 

[Pakpak]

No you aren't, now you are deflecting. These are your actual quotes in this thread:

"About time muslims realize that world is not going to run according to islam, and they must keep religion personal. Bringing religion into everything will only end up segregating them as a group that refuses to integrate."

"Muslims will continue to produce children, they will not listen to anyone. "

"There is a difference between the fertility rates of Muslims and other communities in India."


Once again I remind you, you are talking about your own fellow Indians, not Pakistan.

This is some sick BNP level nonsense being peddled by this joshila guy, everyday here. Sickening.

 

[Slim]

He was advising population control. I am sure "seculars" would have no issues if a pundit was shown instead of a person with skull cap.

Who are you trying to fool here? One of BJP's main fear mongering statements for Indian hindus are them to turn into minority due to increasing Muslim population.

 

[Slim]

A lot of Indians on Twitter are advocating for a one child policy. It’s a bad idea as China found out with families aborting girls and preferring boys.

India unfortunately already has a rape epidemic, imagine what would happen when like China they would have more Males and low amount of females.

 

[JaDed]

If people from Kerala and TN start mentioning UP.. if it can be a religious thing it can also be a regional thing ..

 

[Patriot]

India unfortunately already has a rape epidemic, imagine what would happen when like China they would have more Males and low amount of females.

People will find creative ways. Look at what the Chinese men are doing. Promising Pakistani girls a good life in China and then selling them. Horrible and disgusting practice going on and the Government needs to shut it down.

 

[MP2011]

So Sonowal being 8th child his Sonowals fault or his parents? Sonowal himself is a bachelor.

Yeah what great sacrifice for the nation by not getting married, just like event manager, no?

He is part of the problem, so he should voluntarily leave the CM chair at least, no? Or is that too much to ask from a sanghi?

If he can't, he has no right to impose his hypocrisy on others.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No you aren't, now you are deflecting. These are your actual quotes in this thread:

"About time muslims realize that world is not going to run according to islam, and they must keep religion personal. Bringing religion into everything will only end up segregating them as a group that refuses to integrate."

"Muslims will continue to produce children, they will not listen to anyone. "

"There is a difference between the fertility rates of Muslims and other communities in India."


Once again I remind you, you are talking about your ownfellow Indians, not Pakistan.

1. Thats my opinion on muslim politician saying muslims wont abide by laws.

2. Thats not my quote. Thats what Badruddin Ajmal said, my opinion on that is the first quote.

3.My answer to a poster about why the politician talked about muslims.

Yes i am talking about fellow indians. A leader of a particular community is discouraging the community to obey laws and bring down the fertility rates.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yeah what great sacrifice for the nation by not getting married, just like event manager, no?

He is part of the problem, so he should voluntarily leave the CM chair at least, no? Or is that too much to ask from a sanghi?

If he can't, he has no right to impose his hypocrisy on others.

Why should he leave the CM chair? What is his fault?

You can keep whining sanghi sanghi, the country is voting them and you cant do a damn thing about it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If people from Kerala and TN start mentioning UP.. if it can be a religious thing it can also be a regional thing ..

Even in kerala the fertility rates are different for different communities.

 

[MP2011]

Why should he leave the CM chair? What is his fault?

You can keep whining sanghi sanghi, the country is voting them and you cant do a damn thing about it.

His fault is that he himself is part of the problem though not due to his own will, but he is a part nonetheless! Instead of ordering like a dictator (which all sanghis are), he should do something concrete and set an example..But I guess thats too much to ask from a sanghi....

As for sanghis, yeah country is definitely voting for them. I saw that in MH and Haryana. Despite event manager and mota bhai crying hoarse about 370, 370 everywhere, they barely crossed majority mark in MH and couldn't even do that in Haryana! lol at mission 250 & 75+!

And did I mention the way he let lose the EDs, the CBIs on opposition leaders and shamelessly poaching them? And that there was hardly any opposition left in those 2 states!

If this is what you sanghis call your success (only success you can have) then be happy in stinky little world of yours.

 

[cricketjoshila]

His fault is that he himself is part of the problem though not due to his own will, but he is a part nonetheless! Instead of ordering like a dictator (which all sanghis are), he should do something concrete and set an example..But I guess thats too much to ask from a sanghi....

As for sanghis, yeah country is definitely voting for them. I saw that in MH and Haryana. Despite event manager and mota bhai crying hoarse about 370, 370 everywhere, they barely crossed majority mark in MH and couldn't even do that in Haryana! lol at mission 250 & 75+!

And did I mention the way he let lose the EDs, the CBIs on opposition leaders and shamelessly poaching them? And that there was hardly any opposition left in those 2 states!

If this is what you sanghis call your success (only success you can have) then be happy in stinky little world of yours.

Now now dont throw your toys out of the pram. I know it hurts. But truth is the truth.

Bjp has formed the govt in Hariyana where it is the SLP.

Its also the SLP in Maharashtra and the nda won majority.

Sonowal is not at fault. And he pased a law, thats how it happens in a democracy.

 

[MP2011]

Yeah the truth is, winning elections is the only worry of sanghis, India be damned.

Carry on with that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yeah the truth is, winning elections is the only worry of sanghis, India be damned.

Carry on with that.

Elections are won by public voting. Public makes India

 

[MP2011]

So you don't see anything wrong with BJP's relentless poll machine not producing outright wins for it in those 2 states despite EVERYTHING going for it?

Fair enough! Keep living in your fantasy land, however its not going to last forever. Hell, India's most favoured party to govern Congress, too couldn't sustain it for forever!

50 years, lol! Only in dreams of mota bhai....

 

[MP2011]

Sonowal is not at fault. And he pased a law

So you can't obviously see how patently wrong is this 'law' when he himself is part of that problem...Ok, didn't expect anything different from you....

 

[cricketjoshila]

So you can't obviously see how patently wrong is this 'law' when he himself is part of that problem...Ok, didn't expect anything different from you....

How is he part of the problem? Does he have more than 2 children? Or do you believe he asked his parents to give birth to him?