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Indian Premier League | Day 8 | Deccan | Apr 15, 2016 | Match thread

its too hot at the moment. i am not sure how will the players cope up with the heat.

Thanks [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] bhai for creating a thread invariably for every game.
 
Hyderabad is burning like a furnace right now.. Temperature 45 C, no wind whatsoever!
 
So which team are the bengali posters supporting today? KKR for superstar Shakib or SRH for boywonder Musta?:shakib [MENTION=139394]Prince_[/MENTION]
 
street cricketer said:
So which team are the bengali posters supporting today? KKR for superstar Shakib or SRH for boywonder Musta?:shakib [MENTION=139394]Prince_[/MENTION]
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We support minnows always @SRH

Tbh want to see Mustafiz bowl well. Not sure how that will happen if his team won't even put 130 on a flat wicket.
 
Why did Mustafiz have to go to this crap team? Wish Bangalore had bought him instead.
 
street cricketer said:
So which team are the bengali posters supporting today? KKR for superstar Shakib or SRH for boywonder Musta?:shakib [MENTION=139394]Prince_[/MENTION]
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Most Bangladeshis are supporting Mustafiz. He is the new superstar of Bangladesh cricket. Shakib's popularity is on the decline. People find him arrogant and he has been underperforming for Bangladesh during the last couple of years and instead focusing too much on T20 leagues.
 
Scores of 130 and thereabouts have been defended previously by SRH during the days of Steyn and Mishra. We don't have good bowlers who can do that now..
 
Executioner said:
We support minnows always @SRH

Tbh want to see Mustafiz bowl well. Not sure how that will happen if his team won't even put 130 on a flat wicket.
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SRH always reminds me of the Pakistan team. Bowling perennially trying to make up for the sub par batting.
 
Thivagar said:
So did Narine chuck ? how was his action ?
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There is still a fair bit of extension going on at the elbow imo. Perhaps he's within the legal limits but if he is then he is just inside it - it would not be a surprise to see him reported again.
 
Dios said:
Most Bangladeshis are supporting Mustafiz. He is the new superstar of Bangladesh cricket. Shakib's popularity is on the decline. People find him arrogant and he has been underperforming for Bangladesh during the last couple of years and instead focusing too much on T20 leagues.
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I've heard this a lot but shakib underperforming for the national team was mainly due to his poor form. He was very scratchy with both bat and the ball and only regained some some sort of form during the fag end of the world cup.

Also you have to factor in the class difference between the two as well. Shakib while being a good all rounder, is a level below Mustafizur who looks genuine world class material and I think the latter will win matches for his team more frequently than the former. But yeah, his attitude problems are well documented.
 
What does Panauti mean?

And what does Param mean?

Cos Chawla gets called as Param Panauti Chawla and I wanna know its meaning.
 
street cricketer said:
I've heard this a lot but shakib underperforming for the national team was mainly due to his poor form. He was very scratchy with both bat and the ball and only regained some some sort of form during the fag end of the world cup.

Also you have to factor in the class difference between the two as well. Shakib while being a good all rounder, is a level below Mustafizur who looks genuine world class material and I think the latter will win matches for his team more frequently than the former. But yeah, his attitude problems are well documented.
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We have debates about Mustafiz or how good he is but Shakib has always been the top allrounder in world cricket over the past 7 years or so in pretty much all formats. His stats in world T20 is good.

Shakib is a consistent cricketer. Arrogant though that's a talk for a different day
 
Also Shakib has singlehandedly saved us from embarrassment in the past with no support. Mustafiz had Shakib Riad Mushy Tamim Taskin Al Amin and a good captain.
 
Executioner said:
We have debates about Mustafiz or how good he is but Shakib has always been the top allrounder in world cricket over the past 7 years or so in pretty much all formats. His stats in world T20 is good.

Shakib is a consistent cricketer. Arrogant though that's a talk for a different day
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I know he was ranked the no.1 all rounder but it's a fact that there has been a drop in the quality of all rounders now from those in the yesteryears like Imran, Kapil, Botham, Hadlee, Kallis, Flintoff, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I think Shakib is a very good player as well but I rate Mustafizur better as a player individually than Shakib is and I feel he has a higher ceiling.
 
street cricketer said:
I know he was ranked the no.1 all rounder but it's a fact that there has been a drop in the quality of all rounders now from those in the yesteryears like Imran, Kapil, Botham, Hadlee, Kallis, Flintoff, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I think Shakib is a very good player as well but I rate Mustafizur better as a player individually than Shakib is and I feel he has a higher ceiling.
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Yes, you are right in terms of potential Mustafiz is the first proper world-class player Bangladesh has ever produced. By that I mean he has the potential to be among the Top 5 players in the world at some point if he keeps developing according to his potential. He is already among the best T20 players in the world.

Shakib is a very good player with regards to his abilities. According to Bangladeshi standards he is a great but in an international context he is just decent. No. 1 all-rounder in the world means nothing when you are competing with Ashwin and Hafeez. Mustafiz is a class above Shakib when it come to ability and skill.
 
I am watching the Hindi broadcast. *** is Sidhu talking about? He is such a weirdo.
 
Warner is just clueless.

This IPL has been terrible so far. All one-sided matches. PSL was much better.
 
street cricketer said:
I know he was ranked the no.1 all rounder but it's a fact that there has been a drop in the quality of all rounders now from those in the yesteryears like Imran, Kapil, Botham, Hadlee, Kallis, Flintoff, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I think Shakib is a very good player as well but I rate Mustafizur better as a player individually than Shakib is and I feel he has a higher ceiling.
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You have a point

As for Shakib of course he isn't as good as imran kapil or Botham. He does have potential and almost a decade.more in Intl cricket. He is always contributing but unlike kohli for example he doesn't have those single performance that seperates him from the rest.

Not a bits and pieces player. Average of 39 in tests with bat and 15+ 5 wicket hauls in 42 tests.

Keep in mind that he has 7 disciplines to focus on bowling and batting in each 3 format and also fielding as opposed to 5 for past cricketers. Which also explains why there aren't too many world class allrounders barring Shakib these days
 
Does Warner realize that Mustafiz is useless if the opposition needs 50 from 50 and they can just play out Mustafiz?
 
Sunrisers needs to throw out useless Henriques.

And where are the spinners?

Need to get Murali in cos this Karn Sharma is looking useless these days.
 
They should take Warner out of captaincy and put Morgan as the captain eventhough Morgan is bad but not this bad.
 
Deccan under Gilly was 10 times better team than this one even when they weren't performing that great.
 
Oh man. Whenever I see KKR playing, there always seems to have an opening partnership of at least 50 between Gambhir and Uthappa. This opening partnership between them has won umpteen no.of matches for KKR. They must be on the top of the list of the highest no.of runs scored together in the IPL?
 
The Fizz is gonna be the new malinga of IPL . Watch him get snatched up by Mumbai or RCB soon .
 
The rest of these SRH bowlers are a joke. Bench this nobody Henriques and pick Boult instead. Give captaincy to Yuvraj when he returns or even Morgan or Williamson. Four foreign players should be: Warner, Morgan/Williamson, Boult, Mustafiz.
 
Executioner said:
You have a point

As for Shakib of course he isn't as good as imran kapil or Botham. He does have potential and almost a decade.more in Intl cricket. He is always contributing but unlike kohli for example he doesn't have those single performance that seperates him from the rest.

Not a bits and pieces player. Average of 39 in tests with bat and 15+ 5 wicket hauls in 42 tests.

Keep in mind that he has 7 disciplines to focus on bowling and batting in each 3 format and also fielding as opposed to 5 for past cricketers. Which also explains why there aren't too many world class allrounders barring Shakib these days
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I'm definitely not calling him a bits and pieces player but his test stats overseas are average, though that can be forgiven because of the limited number of matches that Bangladesh get to play out of Asia. However his ODI stats out of Bangladesh are average too except probably west indies. To put it simply, if I were the opposition captain, I won't be making overnight plans on how to play Shakib, but I'll be for Mustafizur.

Also I don't buy the extra discipline argument for the drop in the quality of all rounders. I don't take T20 performances too seriously but there are very few quality all rounders even in Tests or ODIs alone atm. Watson was quite good but none other than him. And let's face it, you don't need to break your brains over how to play T20s. ARs more often than not come during the later stages of the game and the only thing you need to concentrate is to try and whack the ball out of the ground.
 
Isn't sran the guy who was compared to Mustafiz?

Haven't seen much of him but doesn't look convincing
 
street cricketer said:
I'm definitely not calling him a bits and pieces player but hcricketertats overseas are average, though that can be forgiven because of the limited number of matches that Bangladesh get to play out of Asia. However his ODI stats out of Bangladesh are average too except probably west indies. To put it simply, if I were the opposition captain, I won't be making overnight plans on how to play Shakib, but I'll be for Mustafizur.

Also I don't buy the extra discipline argument for the drop in the quality of all rounders. I don't take T20 performances too seriously but there are very few quality all rounders even in Tests or ODIs alone atm. Watson was quite good but none other than him. And let's face it, you don't need to break your brains over how to play T20s. ARs more often than not come during the later stages of the game and the only thing you need to concentrate is to try and whack the ball out of the ground.
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Yet allrounders play such a key role as they give you options to play an extra batsman or an extra bowler.

Issue is no one notices it but coaches value allrounders. Quality atleast. Imagine henriques, not a front line bowler and a decent bat. SRH are playing him out of compulsion but he isn't adding much. Shakib on the other hand can bowl his full quota and a reliable batsman.

As for his overseas performance. He has hardly got too many.matches overseas onxe he has matured as a cricketer

He can only.play what is ahead of him. But won't deny Mustafiz has a good ceiling. He can win you matches. Not with a clueless captain like Warner.
 
A list of quality players Mustafiz has got out in his short career so far:
Rohit Sharma*
Suresh Raina*
MS Dhoni
Shahid Afridi (including him because it was a T20 match)
Quinton de Kock*
Hashim Amla
Chris Gayle
Marlon Samuels
Steve Smith
Kane Williamson
AB de Villiers
Shane Watson
Andre Russell

*= multiple times
 
HitWicket said:
Not as good but calling him a trundler when he's bowling faster/just as fast as mustafizur (ignoring the slower balls) doesn't make much sense.
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What was his pace?

I saw him bowling in Australia in his debut and tbh he wasn't that quick. Anyway trundler is generally a blanket term given to bowlers here who aren't express pace or lacking in skills and I must admit that I'm guilty of using those terms too.
 
street cricketer said:
What was his pace?

I saw him bowling in Australia in his debut and tbh he wasn't that quick. Anyway trundler is generally a blanket term given to bowlers here who aren't express pace or lacking in skills and I must admit that I'm guilty of using those terms too.
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The fizz is a trundler too :srini
 
street cricketer said:
What was his pace?

I saw him bowling in Australia in his debut and tbh he wasn't that quick. Anyway trundler is generally a blanket term given to bowlers here who aren't express pace or lacking in skills and I must admit that I'm guilty of using those terms too.
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Both have been bowling their normal pace balls at around the 134kmph mark on average.
 
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carrom_ball said:
The fizz is a trundler too :srini
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Someone who can bowl over 140 is a trundler? You need to learn the difference between trundling (which is what Indian bowlers do) and bowling slower balls as a variation.
 
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The fizz ending up on the losing side as always, he must be used to it as he plays for Bangladesh :yk
 
What was that midget Warner doing fielding in the boundary anyway? Any taller fielder would've caught that easily.
 
Dios said:
Someone who can bowl 140 is a trundler? You need to learn the difference between trundling (which is what Indian bowlers do) and bowling slower balls as a variation.
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Think you'll find the comment was in regard to someone calling Sran a trundler when he bowls just as fast as Mustafizur.
 
Gambhir is one of the best ever players of spin bowling and could've offered us a lot only if his reflexes against fast bowling didn't diminish. His career ended short tbh.

We have to manage with Dhawan instead of him:afaq
 
Gambhir used to be one my favourite Indian batsman.

India had a good batting lineup in 2011
Sehwag
Gambhir
Kohli
Tendulkar
Dhoni
UV
Raina

A batting lineup with good form and experience. Their current side:

Wannabe Kohli(Rohit)
Kohli's Temporary shield(Dhawan)
Kohli
The guy who infuriates kohli and forces him to bat better(UV)
Kohli's running partner(Dhoni)
Batsman there to give strike back to kohli(Jadeja)i
Batsman whom kohli wont ever get to bat with(Enter player here)
Kohli's future "best-man"(Enter player here)
Random guy
Random guy.
 
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