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NEW DELHI — Returning from a lecture in southern India a few weeks ago, Prof. Anand Teltumbde was booking a cab outside Mumbai’s airport after midnight when security officers approached him in the dark and took him away.

Mr. Teltumbde, a prominent scholar and writer on Indian social issues, was locked in an iron-grilled cell in the nearby city of Pune. For eight hours, he sat behind bars on a dirty mat until a court intervened, ruling that the arrest was illegal.

But it was not entirely a surprise. Last year, the police in Maharashtra, one of India’s largest states, said they had uncovered a vast conspiracy to topple the Indian government that involved Mr. Teltumbde and other well-known writers, academics and lawyers.

Officers raided more than a dozen of their homes, confiscating hard drives and documents. Citing a broad antiterrorism law, the police have put nine of them in jail, accusing them of helping Maoist insurgents, trying to procure grenade launchers, inciting a riot and plotting to assassinate Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

“I cannot describe the humiliation,” Mr. Teltumbde, 67, who denies the accusations, said in an interview.

Human rights activists say the allegations are part of a crackdown on intellectuals who criticize Mr. Modi’s record, especially his government’s treatment of religious minorities and lower castes.

Mr. Teltumbde was an obvious target, activists say. He is a well-known champion of Dalits (the group formerly known as untouchables), a prolific writer with a wide audience, and an unrelenting critic of Mr. Modi.

At a literary festival in 2017, Mr. Teltumbde called the prime minister a “narcissist par excellence” who could prove to be more dangerous than Hitler. He said Mr. Modi’s politics, which are rooted in Hindu nationalism, amounted to “fascism plus something.”

In the same speech, Mr. Teltumbde pressed an even more sensitive button by saying Mr. Modi had “enacted the carnage of Muslims in 2002,” referring to religious riots that killed more than 1,000 people in Gujarat when Mr. Modi was the chief minister of that state. Mr. Modi has never been charged with a crime in connection with the violence.

The case against Mr. Teltumbde has alarmed scholars across the world. Hundreds of academics, including Noam Chomsky and Cornel West, have signed petitions calling for the United Nations to intervene and for the police’s “fabricated charges” to be withdrawn.

“I enthusiastically signed this,’’ Mr. West said in an interview last week. “Anand is my brother and comrade, and I wanted to show my support for him as well as the Dalit freedom struggle.’’

Sangeeta Kamat, a public policy professor at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, who also signed a petition supporting Mr. Teltumbde, called him the best-known of the Indian academics under official scrutiny. She said he had made a “compelling case for how and why the present regime is anti-democratic, anti-Dalit and anti-poor.”

As India’s national elections draw closer — they are expected in April and May — intellectuals fear that pressure on outspoken dissidents among them will only intensify.

“The idea is to crush such people and others will become silent on their own,” said Chandra Bhan Prasad, a journalist and commentator.

A. Bharat Bhushan Babu, a spokesman for the federal Ministry of Home Affairs, said the investigation was being handled by the Pune police, who he said had presented substantial evidence that the accused had traded arms and targeted “important V.I.P.s” in the government.

Police officials in Pune did not respond to numerous requests for comment. Pune is one of the largest cities in Maharashtra, which is controlled by some of Mr. Modi’s closest and most powerful political allies.

Param Bir Singh, the director general of the Maharashtra police, said at a news conference last year that the intellectuals were conspiring to “create chaos and overthrow the established government.”

If the Indian authorities are trying to quash dissent, it would hardly be the first time. Indira Gandhi, to cite one example, cut deeply into civil liberties when she was prime minister. During a 21-month period in the 1970s, she censored the press and jailed opponents.

But today is worse, in Ms. Kamat’s opinion. “The law, the judiciary, the bureaucracy, the police are being weaponized,” she said.

The police’s case against Mr. Teltumbde and the other intellectuals hinges on violence that erupted on Jan. 1, 2018, after thousands of Dalits gathered to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the Battle of Koregaon, a small town near Pune.

In 1818, members of the Mahar community, who would have been considered Dalits, joined British colonizers there to fight off other Indians who were trying to get rid of the British. As the story goes, a small group of British soldiers, aided by a spirited Dalit contingent, stopped thousands of high-caste Peshwas from taking a British base in Pune.

The battle has left a complicated legacy. Some higher-caste Hindus object to its commemoration, saying Dalits should be ashamed to have sided with the British. But many Dalits see the battle as a victory over an oppressive class.

The commemoration last year quickly turned into a brawl, with upper-caste Hindus fighting on one side, Dalits on the other. At least one person was killed.

Police officials in Pune initially turned their attention to hard-line Hindu leaders. Then they changed tack, accusing Mr. Teltumbde and the other academics and writers of instigating the unrest.

Five of them have already been charged. At least seven others, including Mr. Teltumbde, have been named by the police in court submissions as having colluded in the plot. They are waiting to see if the authorities file formal charges later this month.

The police say the scholars are part of a Maoist conspiracy. They say they found several incriminating letters during the raids, including one addressed to “Comrade Anand,” identified by investigators as Mr. Teltumbde. The officials said the letter urged him to “give more traction to domestic chaos.”

Some security analysts believe the letters were falsified — in some cases, laughably.

Ajai Sahni, executive director of the Institute for Conflict Management in New Delhi, said they resembled “the work of a satirist or comedian.” They bear little resemblance to how Maoist militants usually communicate and have “all the hallmarks of mischievous fabrication,” he wrote in an essay for the South Asia Intelligence Review.

Julio Ribeiro, a former police commissioner in Mumbai, said it was unlikely that all the evidence would have been fabricated. But he said the most extreme accusations against the scholars, including the supposed plot to assassinate Mr. Modi, sounded like a “political gimmick.”

Mr. Teltumbde says the only reason he is not in jail is that he happened not to be at his house when it was raided in August. Since then, he has appealed to the courts — successfully, so far — to prevent his arrest. On Thursday, investigators questioned him for six hours.

He said he had to step away from a teaching job in Goa that he loved because he could no longer concentrate. He is now staying at his in-laws’ house in Mumbai, waiting for the next shoe to drop.

“In my innocence, I thought that there was absolutely nothing and that it would boomerang on them,” Mr. Teltumbde said. “That’s what I was confident about, but all my hopes have shattered.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/world/asia/india-modi-intellectuals-dissent.html
 
seems like there is no freedom of speech in India.

Didnt you guys jail a Kohli fan for keeping his poster at home? Lol. And you are talking about freedom of speech? Atleast here its badmouthing PM involved.
 
World's largest democracy at it once again. :kakmal

So democracies allow people to have connections with banned terror groups like the Maoists in India?

He has serious accusations againist him.and that will be investigated.

His brother Milind Teltumbde is a known maoist.
 
So democracies allow people to have connections with banned terror groups like the Maoists in India?

He has serious accusations againist him.and that will be investigated.

His brother Milind Teltumbde is a known maoist.

It's not just this one incident in isolation. News coming out of India is just disturbing and bereft of what one would call a democracy. Also, it is not your birth right to defend India without putting even one brain cell to the test. :kakmal
 
So democracies allow people to have connections with banned terror groups like the Maoists in India?

He has serious accusations againist him.and that will be investigated.

His brother Milind Teltumbde is a known maoist.

:facepalm:

oh bhai stop being a blind nationalist all the time.

You need a warrant to arrest someone, you cant just arrrest someone like that. This is indeed a violate of his human rights
 
Didnt you guys jail a Kohli fan for keeping his poster at home? Lol. And you are talking about freedom of speech? Atleast here its badmouthing PM involved.

Poster? From what I remember the guy hoisted a flag of India frim his roof. Not that I agree with him being jailed, should have been let off with a warning..
 
So democracies allow people to have connections with banned terror groups like the Maoists in India?

He has serious accusations againist him.and that will be investigated.

His brother Milind Teltumbde is a known maoist.

Ha ha, and, when some Hindutva judge finds him guilty of plotting against the anointed Modi you will say the Indian courts prove his culpability!
 
:facepalm:

oh bhai stop being a blind nationalist all the time.

You need a warrant to arrest someone, you cant just arrrest someone like that. This is indeed a violate of his human rights

Do you know CRPC?

A person can be arrested without warrant under Section 41 CRPC.
 
Ha ha, and, when some Hindutva judge finds him guilty of plotting against the anointed Modi you will say the Indian courts prove his culpability!

Indian judiciary is by and large free from political influence because their appointment and dismissal is not in the hand of politicians.

Secondly a indian citizen committing a crine in India againist Indians will be tried in Indian courts. Thats the law.
 
A bit stupid for us Pakistanis to laugh at this.

Try saying something about Muhammad in Pakistan and see what happens (and no, I'm not comparing Modi and Muhammad, but we can't deny that Pakistan has an ever bigger freedom of speech problem).
 
A bit stupid for us Pakistanis to laugh at this.

Try saying something about Muhammad in Pakistan and see what happens (and no, I'm not comparing Modi and Muhammad, but we can't deny that Pakistan has an ever bigger freedom of speech problem).

You can say something about Muhammad (PBUH) in Pakistan. You can say he was great, or a wonderful prophet for example, you can absolutely use freedom of speech to talk about Rasool in such terms.
 
A bit stupid for us Pakistanis to laugh at this.

Try saying something about Muhammad in Pakistan and see what happens (and no, I'm not comparing Modi and Muhammad, but we can't deny that Pakistan has an ever bigger freedom of speech problem).

That would be the case in any Islamic country worth their salt.
 
In fact, in most countries as a lot of countries around the world have an Islamic presence where offence against the Prophet (PBUH) would not be tolerated.
 
Well we are talking about political figures here. Why bring the sensitive religious discussion into it?
 
Clearly any one can criticize any political or military leadership in Pakistan without any kind of social or institutional backlash
 
I think it has to do with how gullible people are in India and in the world. There is no neutrality in press anymore. Even in US, Fox and MSNBC openly have an agenda. Same is the case with India. Social media takes it to another level. A few fake posts on social media made Donald Trump the most powerful man in the world. And that's in the civilized world. Imagine the impact of harmful rhetoric in a country like India where masses are already divided based on trivial things in this day and age like caste, religion. It is easy to cause a riot with a propaganda. Because the press doesn't debunk any false propaganda or in many cases supports false rhetoric, the onus is on government and thereby law enforcement to curb anything that could cause a security issue. This is more in the case of Modi who has a massive following. I see memes and jokes openly about Ghandi but there isn't much reaction because people ain't rioting for him and hence anything about him is not a security threat. When you have a popular leader, what you say about him could lead to loss of property and in the worst case scenario, death.
 
Modi is a despicable murderer of the highest order for his barbaric crimes against Muslims and a disgrace to humanity but he's not comparable to Hitler.
 
seems like there is no freedom of speech in India.

The lead anchor by the name of Arnab Goswami was shutting down guys on his show that were calling out Modi for his incompetency on the Pulwama issue and the lead up to it.
 
Modi is a despicable murderer of the highest order for his barbaric crimes against Muslims and a disgrace to humanity but he's not comparable to Hitler.
He has been investigated 1000 times when opposition party was at center and he was in Gujarat.
No evidence was found. I am not a Modi supporter but this is ridiculous. Blaming someone for a heinous crime that he did not commit is very unfair.
 
He has been investigated 1000 times when opposition party was at center and he was in Gujarat.
No evidence was found. I am not a Modi supporter but this is ridiculous. Blaming someone for a heinous crime that he did not commit is very unfair.

Bro, he was the Chief Minister! The killings and other atrocities raged on for days. If he wanted to stop it, he could have. You can't have systematic killing of this scale without state complicity. There is no denying that Modi bears a responsibility for some of the worst religious violence ever seen in independent India.
 
The lead anchor by the name of Arnab Goswami was shutting down guys on his show that were calling out Modi for his incompetency on the Pulwama issue and the lead up to it.

Arnab Goswami reminds me of someone from this forum. They both use to shout and never listen to others. I like their josh though. :inti
 
Bro, he was the Chief Minister! The killings and other atrocities raged on for days. If he wanted to stop it, he could have. You can't have systematic killing of this scale without state complicity. There is no denying that Modi bears a responsibility for some of the worst religious violence ever seen in independent India.

There were riots in London sometime back, was the PM or Mayor held guilty for it?
 
There were riots in London sometime back, was the PM or Mayor held guilty for it?

There was never any suggestion that the Mayor or PM were anyway complicit in the riots, or let the riots rage for days without authorities moving in to shut them down. Please don't compare the British authorities with someone who's name has become synonymous with the massacre of over a thousand people under his watch. Did you ever hear the Mayor of the UK capital described as the Butcher of London?
 
Didnt you guys jail a Kohli fan for keeping his poster at home? Lol. And you are talking about freedom of speech? Atleast here its badmouthing PM involved.

Lol jailed, kohli's poster or it was Indian flag on his roof top but what to say propaganda is the definition of you people. And yes he was a lucky boy if he would have been in India mob would have been butchered him before the police.
 
There was never any suggestion that the Mayor or PM were anyway complicit in the riots, or let the riots rage for days without authorities moving in to shut them down. Please don't compare the British authorities with someone who's name has become synonymous with the massacre of over a thousand people under his watch. Did you ever hear the Mayor of the UK capital described as the Butcher of London?

Neither was Modi ever held guilty of any wrong doing by any competent authority.

The media portrayal was done to paint Bjp in a bad light as muslim votes were starting to move towards BJP due to Vajpayee.

Most of the media that reported on Modi were later found to be involved in Radia Tapes.

Politics in India goes far deeper than UK.

Winston Churchill is a hero in UK, for bengalis he is a murderer of millions of bengalis.
 
There were riots in London sometime back, was the PM or Mayor held guilty for it?

The London riots weren't targeted at any specific religious group, how many Hindus died in Gujarat, how many people were charged with murder and why did it take so long to stop them?
 
There were riots in London sometime back, was the PM or Mayor held guilty for it?

Just as a thought experiment. Imagine if, in the wake of 7/7 which killed 52 civilians, Ken Livingstone the then Mayor of London had not behaved with his commendable dignity, but had immediately blamed the tube attacks on jihadis; paraded the bodies up and down Pall Mall; and then declared a capital-wide strike. He would have probably been arrested for wilful neglect of duty, hate speech and for inciting violence.

Now contrast this with Modi in which events actually happened. When the train coach carrying Hindu pilgrims caught fire in Godhra station in Gujarat - 58 people died. Within hours and without a shred of evidence, Modi declared that the Pakistani secret services had been to blame. He then had the charred bodies paraded in the main city of Ahmedabad and let his own party support a state-wide strike for three days. What followed was mass bloodshed and other atrocities I can't describe here: 1,000 dead on official estimates, more than 2,000 by independent tallies with the vast majority being muslim.
 
Just as a thought experiment. Imagine if, in the wake of 7/7 which killed 52 civilians, Ken Livingstone the then Mayor of London had not behaved with his commendable dignity, but had immediately blamed the tube attacks on jihadis; paraded the bodies up and down Pall Mall; and then declared a capital-wide strike. He would have probably been arrested for wilful neglect of duty, hate speech and for inciting violence.

Now contrast this with Modi in which events actually happened. When the train coach carrying Hindu pilgrims caught fire in Godhra station in Gujarat - 58 people died. Within hours and without a shred of evidence, Modi declared that the Pakistani secret services had been to blame. He then had the charred bodies paraded in the main city of Ahmedabad and let his own party support a state-wide strike for three days. What followed was mass bloodshed and other atrocities I can't describe here: 1,000 dead on official estimates, more than 2,000 by independent tallies with the vast majority being muslim.

Great points about the role Modi played in the massacre of innocent people. Do we know how many people were charged with murder? How many people are serving time for a massacre of 1000's of innocent people? [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]
 
The London riots weren't targeted at any specific religious group, how many Hindus died in Gujarat, how many people were charged with murder and why did it take so long to stop them?

Close to 250 plus hindus died in those riots. Plus the 70 in Godhra. 750 plus muslims died. These are all official figures.

Riots in India dont die down in a day. Look up any riot in India. The sheer number of people and area make it difficult.
 
Just as a thought experiment. Imagine if, in the wake of 7/7 which killed 52 civilians, Ken Livingstone the then Mayor of London had not behaved with his commendable dignity, but had immediately blamed the tube attacks on jihadis; paraded the bodies up and down Pall Mall; and then declared a capital-wide strike. He would have probably been arrested for wilful neglect of duty, hate speech and for inciting violence.

Now contrast this with Modi in which events actually happened. When the train coach carrying Hindu pilgrims caught fire in Godhra station in Gujarat - 58 people died. Within hours and without a shred of evidence, Modi declared that the Pakistani secret services had been to blame. He then had the charred bodies paraded in the main city of Ahmedabad and let his own party support a state-wide strike for three days. What followed was mass bloodshed and other atrocities I can't describe here: 1,000 dead on official estimates, more than 2,000 by independent tallies with the vast majority being muslim.

Modi said this was not a communal attack but a terrorist strike. This was to deflect the attention from the locals.

Then to further calm down the hindu community he offered to give the dead a state sponsored funeral. If he had not allowed the bodies to be brought to their homes in Ahmedabad, the hindu community would have been further outraged.




It was the VHP that called for a strike and that later descended into riots. This over the years led to Modi becoming extremely anti to Vhp and its secretary Togadia. Togadia was finally removed as VHP president couple of years ago.

Regarding the death toll, in any hindu muslim riot in India, invariably the muslim victims will be more as thd hindus overwhelmingly are in majority in most states. That doesnot mean that the govt was complicit.
 
Great points about the role Modi played in the massacre of innocent people. Do we know how many people were charged with murder? How many people are serving time for a massacre of 1000's of innocent people? [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Close to 250 people have been convicted.

640 under trial.
 
Modi said this was not a communal attack but a terrorist strike. This was to deflect the attention from the locals.

Then to further calm down the hindu community he offered to give the dead a state sponsored funeral. If he had not allowed the bodies to be brought to their homes in Ahmedabad, the hindu community would have been further outraged.




It was the VHP that called for a strike and that later descended into riots. This over the years led to Modi becoming extremely anti to Vhp and its secretary Togadia. Togadia was finally removed as VHP president couple of years ago.

Regarding the death toll, in any hindu muslim riot in India, invariably the muslim victims will be more as thd hindus overwhelmingly are in majority in most states. That doesnot mean that the govt was complicit.

Think massacre of muslims would be more accurate than a "Hindu - Muslim riot" with Modi unwilling to intervene.
 
In fact, in most countries as a lot of countries around the world have an Islamic presence where offence against the Prophet (PBUH) would not be tolerated.

That's not freedom of speech. There is a problem in Western countries regarding freedom of speech, but no to that extent. It's ridiculous that you'll either have a lengthy prison sentence or be executed about saying something not-nice about Muhammad.

You can say something about Muhammad (PBUH) in Pakistan. You can say he was great, or a wonderful prophet for example, you can absolutely use freedom of speech to talk about Rasool in such terms.

Yeah, that's not freedom of speech. Freedom to say nice things but jail or execution if you say not-nice things? No person in history is above scrutiny.
 
Millions pf of people are comparing Modi to Hitler. In freee India anyone saying this will be killed or he'll go missing.
 
PM Modi walking on Hitler's path: Kejriwal

With electioneering in full swing, political parties are not missing any chance to take a dig at their rivals. On Saturday, Delhi Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal launched an attack on Prime Minister Narendra Modi by comparing him with Adolf Hitler and accusing him of using the force to curb dissenting voices.

"Goons of Hitler use to beat and kill innocent people. Later, police use to file cases against the victims. Modiji is also doing the same. He is following Hitler's tactics to grab the power, but his supporters are not able to see in which direction India is going," tweeted Kejriwal.

The scathing attack by Delhi's chief minister came hours after a video went viral that showed members of a Muslim family in Gurugram's Dhamaspur village being beaten up with sticks and rods, by a group of men.

The incident took place after some of the accused allegedly approached the boys from the family, who were playing cricket outside, and said that they "go to Pakistan and play."

The Delhi Chief Minister also re-tweeted the video of the incident and stated, "Look at this video. In which holy book it is written that one should beat Muslims.

https://www.business-standard.com/a...on-hitler-s-path-kejriwal-119032300240_1.html
 
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