India's delusions of dominance in South Asia are exposed

[FearlessRoar]

As a Pakistani, I've always been skeptical of India's claims of being a regional power. Recent events have vindicated my stance, exposing India's ambitions as nothing more than a pipe dream.

The fall of the Ashraf Ghani government in Afghanistan in 2021, which India had propped up, marks a strategic defeat for India. Their heavy investment since 2001 has been wasted, and the Taliban's takeover has emboldened anti-India sentiment in the region.

In Bangladesh, Sheikh Hasina's recent step-down has ended India's decade-long stranglehold on the country's foreign policy.
The new government in Bangladesh may tilt towards China.

The Maldives, too, has rejected India's overtures, with President Mohamed Muizzu taking a firm stance against Indian hegemony. Canceling joint military exercises and strengthening ties with China has dealt a blow to India's plans for regional dominance.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's extremist Hindutva ideology has been a disaster for India's foreign policy. His domestic policies promoting Hindu nationalism have only added fuel to the fire.

India's dream of dominating South Asia is over. Strategic defeats, loss of allies, and anti-India sentiment have created an insurmountable obstacle.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Bharat aspires for responsible leadership not domination.

It is what differentiates Hinduism. We are truth seekers. Here to spread Brahminik wisdom.

 

[Devadwal]

When they are sellout countries then India can't do anything .

This is not india problem but they are responsible for own failure.

 

[HalBass9]

When they are sellout countries then India can't do anything .

This is not india problem but they are responsible for own failure.

It is pretty much India's problem.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

When they are sellout countries then India can't do anything .

This is not india problem but they are responsible for own failure.

In what manner are they selling out? Pakistan used to be part of the Asian bloc in cricket where the ASEAN countries feared their power, then India tried to become part of the Big Three along with England and Australia. Pakistanis has been boycotted from IPL participation while players from outside the subcontinent are prized and admired. Now I get currently Pakistan players are not gold standard, but this boycott has been in place for almost 20 years, there were plenty of stand out Pakistan cricketers in that time.

Cricket is of course a microcosm of Asian life, but it is a good example of India's failure to nurture influence in it's own sphere. So from an outsider's viewpoint, looks like India is the biggest sellout of all.

 

[deltexas]

As a Pakistani, I've always been skeptical of India's claims of being a regional power. Recent events have vindicated my stance, exposing India's ambitions as nothing more than a pipe dream.

The fall of the Ashraf Ghani government in Afghanistan in 2021, which India had propped up, marks a strategic defeat for India. Their heavy investment since 2001 has been wasted, and the Taliban's takeover has emboldened anti-India sentiment in the region.

In Bangladesh, Sheikh Hasina's recent step-down has ended India's decade-long stranglehold on the country's foreign policy.
The new government in Bangladesh may tilt towards China.

The Maldives, too, has rejected India's overtures, with President Mohamed Muizzu taking a firm stance against Indian hegemony. Canceling joint military exercises and strengthening ties with China has dealt a blow to India's plans for regional dominance.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's extremist Hindutva ideology has been a disaster for India's foreign policy. His domestic policies promoting Hindu nationalism have only added fuel to the fire.

India's dream of dominating South Asia is over. Strategic defeats, loss of allies, and anti-India sentiment have created an insurmountable obstacle.

Ind never had any global domination ambitions. It has always been Ind first policy. Ind has never started a war in its 75 yrs history. All the wars were started by its neighbors - Pak & China. Ind has to protect its borders from the terrorists and other infiltrators and aggressive nations. The relations have always been between 2 countries - Ind and neighbors ; not between a specific party. Ind will work with whoever the gov is in its neighbors. That is a common sense approach. Ind has a working relationship with Afg now. The FM is visiting Maldives this week. Ind congratulated the new Ban PM. And with Pak - well, status quo I guess! Nothing beneficial will come out of it and they wont allow Ind cricket team to go to Pak for CT.

 

[Devadwal]

In what manner are they selling out? Pakistan used to be part of the Asian bloc in cricket where the ASEAN countries feared their power, then India tried to become part of the Big Three along with England and Australia. Pakistanis has been boycotted from IPL participation while players from outside the subcontinent are prized and admired. Now I get currently Pakistan players are not gold standard, but this boycott has been in place for almost 20 years, there were plenty of stand out Pakistan cricketers in that time.

Cricket is of course a microcosm of Asian life, but it is a good example of India's failure to nurture influence in it's own sphere. So from an outsider's viewpoint, looks like India is the biggest sellout of all.

Bro read the thread once again, this is not related to cricket.

 

[deltexas]

In what manner are they selling out? Pakistan used to be part of the Asian bloc in cricket where the ASEAN countries feared their power, then India tried to become part of the Big Three along with England and Australia. Pakistanis has been boycotted from IPL participation while players from outside the subcontinent are prized and admired. Now I get currently Pakistan players are not gold standard, but this boycott has been in place for almost 20 years, there were plenty of stand out Pakistan cricketers in that time.

Cricket is of course a microcosm of Asian life, but it is a good example of India's failure to nurture influence in it's own sphere. So from an outsider's viewpoint, looks like India is the biggest sellout of all.

Sellout to USA and China . US forced Pak to use its forces to hunt the Taliban down and Pak meekly agreed. Its airspace was violated when someone was captured but again meekly accepted. And allowing China to build high interest loan infrastructure in the country is another sell out. And now still requesting Ind cricket team to tour Pak and then agreeing to a hybrid model - another sell out.

 

[oatmeal]

There are only two big countries in the region - India and China and China is more powerful but its also a country which tends to pick petty battles and neighbouring countries are suspicious of its expansionist agenda.

Pakistan is firmly in the China camp. Sri Lanka, Nepal, Maldives oscillate between India and China. Bhutan is pro India. Bangladesh was pro India and not sure about the next government. Aghanistan India relationship is not bad even after the Taliban took over.

This is just how geopolitics work. you cant always pick the government in other countries, you just deal with whosoever is at the helm.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

India has been badly exposed in the region.

 

[Technics 1210]

Spot on. India could not even dominate Cricket with ICC trophies let alone Kashmir!

It is all hot air. 5000 year head start and instead of dominating, India ended up being dominated.

India cannot dominate squat when Indians are desperate to flee India anyway!

India cannot even dominate the market in call centres!

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lol...India went to isolate Pakistan and ended up making a mockery of itself

 

[Ahmed216]

Hasina's closeness to Modi also contributed to her downfall.
This is Modi's legacy he's managed to strain relations even with a neighbouring hindu country Nepal

 

[Devadwal]

Lol...India went to isolate Pakistan and ended up making a mockery of itself

Indian doesn't need to do destroyed or isolated Pakistan. Lol

They are on the way of self destruction .

 

[aboveandbeyond]

When they are sellout countries then India can't do anything .

This is not india problem but they are responsible for own failure.

When the puppets of these respected countries were in power, Indians were on Board.

What's changed?

 

[HalBass9]

Modi is tweeting.

Tweeting diplomacy.

 

[HalBass9]

Lol...India went to isolate Pakistan and ended up making a mockery of itself

If rabid Hindutva supporters calmly tried to understand what took place in Bangladesh, most of them would not resort to such comments. Their lack of understanding of geopolitics is remarkable.

But Modi is tweeting. The poor guy has been reduced to tweeting. I hope the Western media and politicians are listening to him.

 

[Devadwal]

Similarity between the day when Taliban take over Bangladesh and A coup goverment take charge in bangladesh .

On the evening of both day Pakistan poster were/ are doing Bhangra but after few day Taliban were fighting with Pakistan with in Pakistan alongside Durand line . Now they are facing bigger problems than Ghani goverment.

Now they are celebrating again like Mushfiqur celebrated to early just to humiliated himself few minutes later

Lets see what will happen in next few month's

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Spot on. India could not even dominate Cricket with ICC trophies let alone Kashmir!

It is all hot air. 5000 year head start and instead of dominating, India ended up being dominated.

India cannot dominate squat when Indians are desperate to flee India anyway!

India cannot even dominate the market in call centres!

They dominate fake news, bigotry and historical revisionism.

They propped up Hasina and are now crying tears and pointing fingers when their puppet fell.

They are crying about illegal migration but seems to have fast tracked Hasinas visa lol

 

[rickroll]

If rabid Hindutva supporters calmly tried to understand what took place in Bangladesh, most of them would not resort to such comments. Their lack of understanding of geopolitics is remarkable.

But Modi is tweeting. The poor guy has been reduced to tweeting. I hope the Western media and politicians are listening to him.

Good point!

 

[rickroll]

Similarity between the day when Taliban take over Bangladesh and A coup goverment take charge in bangladesh .

On the evening of both day Pakistan poster were/ are doing Bhangra but after few day Taliban were fighting with Pakistan with in Pakistan alongside Durand line . Now they are facing bigger problems than Ghani goverment.

Now they are celebrating again like Mushfiqur celebrated to early just to humiliated himself few minutes later

Lets see what will happen in next few month's

How will this backfire for Pakistan? Unlike Afghanistan, we do not share a border with Bangladesh though.

 

[sweep_shot]

India is overrated.

China is the real deal.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

India is overrated.

China is the real deal.

Yep they walk the talk

 

[The Bald Eagle]

The fall of the Ashraf Ghani government in Afghanistan in 2021, which India had propped up, marks a strategic defeat for India. Their heavy investment since 2001 has been wasted, and the Taliban's takeover has emboldened anti-India sentiment in the region.

This was one of ISI's biggest achievement and toppling of Hasina government is a result of his pro India stance and authoritarian style of government

 

[gazza619]

To be honest I wish Pakistan could follow all the good things India does.

 

[sweep_shot]

If rabid Hindutva supporters calmly tried to understand what took place in Bangladesh, most of them would not resort to such comments. Their lack of understanding of geopolitics is remarkable.

But Modi is tweeting. The poor guy has been reduced to tweeting. I hope the Western media and politicians are listening to him.

Indeed.

These BJP posters don't understand the potential long-term consequences of their reckless trajectory.

They are slowly getting isolated regionally while China is strengthening their grip.

 

[rickroll]

To be honest I wish Pakistan could follow all the good things India does.

Like what?

 

[cricketjoshila]

I hope the Taliban government in Afghanistan is being friendly to Pakistan.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Indeed.

These BJP posters don't understand the potential long-term consequences of their reckless trajectory.

They are slowly getting isolated regionally while China is strengthening their grip.

Long term trends are something that's not getting picked up here!

 

[deltexas]

Indeed.

These BJP posters don't understand the potential long-term consequences of their reckless trajectory.

They are slowly getting isolated regionally while China is strengthening their grip.

The trajectories are there for everyone to see. Pak is a failed Islamic establishment state. Afg is a failed Islamic extremist state. Ban is on the downward spiral now to another failed so called secular/practically Islamic state. And Ind trajectory - on the 5th biggest economy, millions removed from poverty, eliminating extreme poverty, population stabilization, scientific achievements.. And before you guys say it - yes, still need lot more toilets, need more people out from economy, need increase in education.. And a strong stable secular democracy. So, I can see which trajectory is moving up and which ones are moving down

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Well Indians may dislike it but If they really want to keep growing then the MUST not pick fights with China as US would lose nothing but it would be them as next door neighbor. Pakistan has suffered before because of US just take a lesson

 

[IAJ]

And even in Olympics Pakistan have a gold medal and India zero lol

 

[sweep_shot]

Well Indians may dislike it but If they really want to keep growing then the MUST not pick fights with China as US would lose nothing but it would be them as next door neighbor. Pakistan has suffered before because of US just take a lesson

Exactly.

India are losing regional allies. One after another.

This is what happens when country gets run by an illiterate chaiwala.

Look at China. Xi Jinping is a leader with a chemical engineering degree. He understands the importance of effective long-term vision. China has been growing strong and making allies regionally.

Modi on the other hand seems to have petty short-term goals (like empowering cow vigilante mobs and dog-whistling against Muslims).

 

[Devadwal]

And even in Olympics Pakistan have a gold medal and India zero lol

This is real achievement . respect

 

[sweep_shot]

And even in Olympics Pakistan have a gold medal and India zero lol

Ouch!

That is embarrassing for India. Maybe they should send Bumrah to Olympics.

Congratulations to Pakistan, BTW.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Guys no off topic discussion please

 

[rpant_gabba]

In what manner are they selling out? Pakistan used to be part of the Asian bloc in cricket where the ASEAN countries feared their power, then India tried to become part of the Big Three along with England and Australia. Pakistanis has been boycotted from IPL participation while players from outside the subcontinent are prized and admired. Now I get currently Pakistan players are not gold standard, but this boycott has been in place for almost 20 years, there were plenty of stand out Pakistan cricketers in that time.

Cricket is of course a microcosm of Asian life, but it is a good example of India's failure to nurture influence in it's own sphere. So from an outsider's viewpoint, looks like India is the biggest sellout of all.

did they teach history where you live?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330369168_SECURITY_GAME_SEATO_and_CENTO_as_Instrument_of_Economic_and_Military_Assistance_to_Encircle_Pakistan#:~:text=In%201950s%2C%20SEATO%20and%20CENTO,objectives%20of%20the%20Soviet%20Union.

what is Pak betraying Taliban in 2001 to US. not sure there is better example of a country selling itself out than Pakistan.

 

[deltexas]

did they teach history where you live?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330369168_SECURITY_GAME_SEATO_and_CENTO_as_Instrument_of_Economic_and_Military_Assistance_to_Encircle_Pakistan#:~:text=In%201950s%2C%20SEATO%20and%20CENTO,objectives%20of%20the%20Soviet%20Union.

what is Pak betraying Taliban in 2001 to US. not sure there is better example of a country selling itself out than Pakistan.

For all the ummah muslim talk- pak sold themselves to the USA by hunting and killing the taliban terrorists which they themselves created for proxy war. Pak entire history is littered with ssell outs. But pak zindabad pak paindabad !

 

[rpant_gabba]

For all the ummah muslim talk- pak sold themselves to the USA by hunting and killing the taliban terrorists which they themselves created for proxy war. Pak entire history is littered with ssell outs. But pak zindabad pak paindabad !

The United States has steadily increased its support of counter-insurgency campaigns by the government of Pakistan through direct military aid and training, and compensation for assistance to the U.S. war in Afghanistan. The U.S. has also used Pakistan as a major supply route for weapons, fuel, and material into Afghanistan, in addition to launching cross border attacks into Afghanistan from Pakistan’s territory.

This increased U.S. support has coincided with a dramatic escalation of the conflict between local Pakistani insurgents and their government. Most of the fighting is concentrated in the Northwest, near the border with Afghanistan, but the bloodshed not infrequently affects civilians throughout Pakistan.

The U.S. began its semi-covert campaign of drone strikes in 2004 to kill Al Qaeda and Taliban forces based in Northern Pakistan. The strikes are obscured by secrecy and are of questionable legality. There is also a debate about who and how many have been killed in the strikes. According to the highest estimates, these strikes have killed thousands of people.

Approximately 66,650 Pakistanis – civilians and opposition fighters – have been killed since 2001. Of these, about 24,099 are civilians.

Pakistani Civilians | Costs of War

The Costs of War Project is a team of 35 scholars, legal experts, human rights practitioners, and physicians, which began its work in 2011. We use research and a public website to facilitate debate about the costs of the post-9/11 wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

watson.brown.edu

Predator Drone: National bird

 

[deltexas]

Exactly.

India are losing regional allies. One after another.

This is what happens when country gets run by an illiterate chaiwala.

Look at China. Xi Jinping is a leader with a chemical engineering degree. He understands the importance of effective long-term vision. China has been growing strong and making allies regionally.

Modi on the other hand seems to have petty short-term goals (like empowering cow vigilante mobs and dog-whistling against Muslims).

Ind is not losing any regional allies. Rather some of the neighbors have blind hatred as part of Muslim brotherhood as Ind is a hindu majority country. Even when pak committed genocide- millions kklledin Ban in 71- the Ban fuys now execuse it because it was done by our Muslim brothers. Thats the blind irrationality for islam and its people. Ban culturally is way closer.to O d and Bengal- but they support Pak because of religion.

Ind is friendly with SL nepal bhutan and even Burma. China is different. China has global dominance ambitions and so has to undermine Ind and it is what it is.

 

[Technics 1210]

And Pakistan has always dominated the minds of fickle Indians.

 

[deltexas]

And Pakistan has always dominated the minds of fickle Indians.

Yeah its like 70s 80s Bollywood masala movies where 2 sons born from the same mother - 1 becomes educated and disciplined, the other a anarchist and chaotic.. and everyone wondered why lol

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Exactly.

India are losing regional allies. One after another.

This is what happens when country gets run by an illiterate chaiwala.

Look at China. Xi Jinping is a leader with a chemical engineering degree. He understands the importance of effective long-term vision. China has been growing strong and making allies regionally.

Modi on the other hand seems to have petty short-term goals (like empowering cow vigilante mobs and dog-whistling against Muslims).

Try to change the sources of your information once in a while bhai!

 

[Technics 1210]

Exactly.

India are losing regional allies. One after another.

This is what happens when country gets run by an illiterate chaiwala.

Look at China. Xi Jinping is a leader with a chemical engineering degree. He understands the importance of effective long-term vision. China has been growing strong and making allies regionally.

Modi on the other hand seems to have petty short-term goals (like empowering cow vigilante mobs and dog-whistling against Muslims).

India does not have allies.

Any photo op we see with Modi and world leaders is simply based on money and political ambitions of the West.

India throughout history has been a stepping stone to riches, but for others. Portuguese, Muslims, and the British to name but a few. Absolutely rinsed the riches out of India and with it scarred a nation probably for another 5000 years.

The fact Modi was banned in the USA/UK and then the ban lifted proves beyond doubt the West is up to its tricks again. A religious terrorist turns Amreekan puppet. Indians don't even realise, the West doesn't care about India, or Hinduism, or Tendulkar's 100 centuries - the West only cares about China.

India has isolated itself. Its own people have had enough and a desperate to flee 'Incredible' India. Some even flee to Musim states like UAE. And before anyone says Isreal, 2 buddies sharing victim stories is not an alliance, its a consolation.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Spot on. India could not even dominate Cricket with ICC trophies let alone Kashmir!

It is all hot air. 5000 year head start and instead of dominating, India ended up being dominated.

India cannot dominate squat when Indians are desperate to flee India anyway!

India cannot even dominate the market in call centres!

If Iia becomes ruthless like China, you guys will be the first inline to cry in unison and call India all sorts of names.

 

[zn426]

Guys no off topic discussion please

I feel like this needs to be responded to.
The cricketing relationships between Pakistan and India have been heavily politicized. You know that. India insists touring Pakistan or playing Pakistan in any kind of cricket match is a government decision-a decision by political leaders is in fact political!
So why is it, that on the largest cricket website in Pakistan and quite possibly on the planet aside from cricinfo politics isn't suitable for any kind of discussion when it comes to cricket, despite the utter politicization of cricket by Pakistan's largest rival in effectively everything that matters?
Motives matter. The views of the decisionmakers matter. How they act matters, because the decisionmakers will act the same way when it comes to cricket.

I'm not here to take shots, but pakpassions leadership team needs to make a decision on how you're going to handle Pakistan-India relations discussions on this board. No, begging people to stop talking about it isn't the answer. Content moderation hasn't proven the answer either as people are still talking about this subject. Make a decision, make it extremely public, and stand by it.
As great as pakpassion's media content is, with many acclaimed coaches, players, and well known commentators having contributed to this website, this is still a message board where people come to interact. You guys are the leaders here. Make a constructive policy and I am sure many here will follow it, including myself.

 

[rpant_gabba]

I feel like this needs to be responded to.
The cricketing relationships between Pakistan and India have been heavily politicized. You know that. India insists touring Pakistan or playing Pakistan in any kind of cricket match is a government decision-a decision by political leaders is in fact political!
So why is it, that on the largest cricket website in Pakistan and quite possibly on the planet aside from cricinfo politics isn't suitable for any kind of discussion when it comes to cricket, despite the utter politicization of cricket by Pakistan's largest rival in effectively everything that matters?
Motives matter. The views of the decisionmakers matter. How they act matters, because the decisionmakers will act the same way when it comes to cricket.

I'm not here to take shots, but pakpassions leadership team needs to make a decision on how you're going to handle Pakistan-India relations discussions on this board. No, begging people to stop talking about it isn't the answer. Content moderation hasn't proven the answer either as people are still talking about this subject. Make a decision, make it extremely public, and stand by it.
As great as pakpassion's media content is, with many acclaimed coaches, players, and well known commentators having contributed to this website, this is still a message board where people come to interact. You guys are the leaders here. Make a constructive policy and I am sure many here will follow it, including myself.

Just following example of PCB. remember Pak/PCB shenanigans in the early 90's? remember moscow olympics boycott? glen eagles agreement?

 

[arunp]

despite the utter politicization of cricket by Pakistan's largest rival

Politics and sports were never separate and are never separate. India ha a long way to go in learning from Pak and western world in how to use sports and a means of state policy.

 

[arunp]

Exactly.

India are losing regional allies. One after another.

This is what happens when country gets run by an illiterate chaiwala.

Look at China. Xi Jinping is a leader with a chemical engineering degree. He understands the importance of effective long-term vision. China has been growing strong and making allies regionally.

Modi on the other hand seems to have petty short-term goals (like empowering cow vigilante mobs and dog-whistling against Muslims).

Which allies is India losing ?
Btw there are no permanent friends or enemies in FP. Just self interests.

 

[arunp]

In what manner are they selling out? Pakistan used to be part of the Asian bloc in cricket where the ASEAN countries feared their power, then India tried to become part of the Big Three along with England and Australia. Pakistanis has been boycotted from IPL participation while players from outside the subcontinent are prized and admired. Now I get currently Pakistan players are not gold standard, but this boycott has been in place for almost 20 years, there were plenty of stand out Pakistan cricketers in that time.

Cricket is of course a microcosm of Asian life, but it is a good example of India's failure to nurture influence in it's own sphere. So from an outsider's viewpoint, looks like India is the biggest sellout of all.

Do you mean Pakistanis were banned ?
India was not nurturing influence, it was pursuing it's national interest in writing off Indo-Pak relationship.

 

[arunp]

As a Pakistani, I've always been skeptical of India's claims of being a regional power. Recent events have vindicated my stance, exposing India's ambitions as nothing more than a pipe dream.

Which region are we talking about ? India is not yet a regional power in South Asia, it has ambitions of being one (or atleast I hope it has). Problem is, it was ruled by idiots until 2014 who valued soft power and impractical ideals over hard economic power.

 

[Champ_Pal]

India does not have allies.

Any photo op we see with Modi and world leaders is simply based on money and political ambitions of the West.

India throughout history has been a stepping stone to riches, but for others. Portuguese, Muslims, and the British to name but a few. Absolutely rinsed the riches out of India and with it scarred a nation probably for another 5000 years.

The fact Modi was banned in the USA/UK and then the ban lifted proves beyond doubt the West is up to its tricks again. A religious terrorist turns Amreekan puppet. Indians don't even realise, the West doesn't care about India, or Hinduism, or Tendulkar's 100 centuries - the West only cares about China.

India has isolated itself. Its own people have had enough and a desperate to flee 'Incredible' India. Some even flee to Musim states like UAE. And before anyone says Isreal, 2 buddies sharing victim stories is not an alliance, its a consolation.

That post must have made your heart lighter

A poor man hoping that a middle class guy is nothing and will go down one day.

 

[rpant_gabba]

That post must have made your heart lighter

A poor man hoping that a middle class guy is nothing and will go down one day.

you don't know what you are talking about. CPEC will now include bangladesh and it will be a game changer just like it was for Pak

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Which allies is India losing ?
Btw there are no permanent friends or enemies in FP. Just self interests.

Neighbourhood is on the boil and that's always a concern.
Let them continue with their social media bubble here.
We were getting trolled for the Bangaldesh beating us in certain parameters of HDI and GDP per capita, would be interesting to see how the hardliners maintain that?
Maldives has already changed its tune from India out, to Welcome India in 6 months
Sri Lanka was very much the same after getting bankrupted by aligning themselves with China.

Chinese already have a visa free entry into Pakistan now, I am sure the great big brother has granted Pakistan the same access. Oh wait

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

you don't know what you are talking about. CPEC will now include bangladesh and it will be a game changer just like it was for Pak

Its scary, after bankrupting Sri Lanka, now its time for Bangladesh to enjoy the fruits of BRI

 

[Champ_Pal]

you don't know what you are talking about. CPEC will now include bangladesh and it will be a game changer just like it was for Pak

Well another Chinese puppet in the making.
However US will not let another south Asian country go Chinese way. I expect BD to fall into US hands eventually. All their leaders will be bought for a few million dollars.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Neighbourhood is on the boil and that's always a concern.
Let them continue with their social media bubble here.
We were getting trolled for the Bangaldesh beating us in certain parameters of HDI and GDP per capita, would be interesting to see how the hardliners maintain that?
Maldives has already changed its tune from India out, to Welcome India in 6 months
Sri Lanka was very much the same after getting bankrupted by aligning themselves with China.

Chinese already have a visa free entry into Pakistan now, I am sure the great big brother has granted Pakistan the same access. Oh wait

India can do nothing about what is happening in BD. When the dust settles down, their people will realize they did a mistake. Right now their people are drenched in the euphoria of victory. They spit on their own father of the nation by beating his statue with chappal.

BD wants an Islamic country. It was bound to achieve it sooner or later. Let’s see how they will go from here.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistanis and a Bangladeshi deciding India's influence.

This is a joke.

This is like North Korea and Afghanistan deciding USAs influence.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

India can do nothing about what is happening in BD. When the dust settles down, their people will realize they did a mistake. Right now their people are drenched in the euphoria of victory. They spit on their own father of the nation by beating his statue with chappal.

BD wants an Islamic country. It was bound to achieve it sooner or later. Let’s see how they will go from here.

The issue is neighborhood does matter.
Take sports for an example, South Asia is absolute garbage.
So our athletes miss out any regional quality competition whereas our competitors have East Asian games, SEA games and Europe has its own tournaments. We will always lack experience against the big guns because of this.
Same applies to other aspects of economy too.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Pakistanis and a Bangladeshi deciding India's influence.

This is a joke.

This is like North Korea and Afghanistan deciding USAs influence.

All Muslim nations bordering India are turning anti India. It should not be surprising. Why will a Muslim nation or at least a majority Muslim nation listen to a pagan nation like India?

Even Maldives was also barking like a chihuahua not long ago. It is not coincidence. This is all orchestrated. It is Muslim nations uniting against India.

 

[Champ_Pal]

The issue is neighborhood does matter.
Take sports for an example, South Asia is absolute garbage.
So our athletes miss out any regional quality competition whereas our competitors have East Asian games, SEA games and Europe has its own tournaments. We will always lack experience against the big guns because of this.
Same applies to other aspects of economy too.

I doubt any of India’s neighbors care about regional cooperation. They want to see India bleed and die even if it means their own country fails. The hatred is deep rooted in them.

 

[Devadwal]

All Muslim nations bordering India are turning anti India. It should not be surprising. Why will a Muslim nation or at least a majority Muslim nation listen to a pagan nation like India?

Even Maldives was also barking like a chihuahua not long ago. It is not coincidence. This is all orchestrated. It is Muslim nations uniting against India.

They can't do a jack. Most of the nation are bankrupt

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

They can't do a jack. Most of the nation are bankrupt

Always be careful of someone who has nothing to lose

 

[Champ_Pal]

They can't do a jack. Most of the nation are bankrupt

They are powerless against India. But they can become a nuisance at the border.

 

[JaDed]

All nations around India are getting bankrupt , hopefully Bangladeshis avoid this.

 

[Champ_Pal]

All nations around India are getting bankrupt , hopefully Bangladeshis avoid this.

I stopped buying any clothing if I see Made in Bangladesh tag on it.

 

[Hitman]

LOL, this what truth tastes like.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1821749990970028214

 

[Varun]

We live in such a volatile neighbourhood. Either there is a military coup, or rigged elections, or bankruptcy, or all of them put together.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I stopped buying any clothing if I see Made in Bangladesh tag on it.

You should not buy garments made in Bangladesh, but for ethical reasons. Their garment business is built on the death of poor.

 

[gani999]

As a Pakistani, I've always been skeptical of India's claims of being a regional power. Recent events have vindicated my stance, exposing India's ambitions as nothing more than a pipe dream.

The fall of the Ashraf Ghani government in Afghanistan in 2021, which India had propped up, marks a strategic defeat for India. Their heavy investment since 2001 has been wasted, and the Taliban's takeover has emboldened anti-India sentiment in the region.

In Bangladesh, Sheikh Hasina's recent step-down has ended India's decade-long stranglehold on the country's foreign policy.
The new government in Bangladesh may tilt towards China.

The Maldives, too, has rejected India's overtures, with President Mohamed Muizzu taking a firm stance against Indian hegemony. Canceling joint military exercises and strengthening ties with China has dealt a blow to India's plans for regional dominance.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's extremist Hindutva ideology has been a disaster for India's foreign policy. His domestic policies promoting Hindu nationalism have only added fuel to the fire.

India's dream of dominating South Asia is over. Strategic defeats, loss of allies, and anti-India sentiment have created an insurmountable obstacle.

As the biggest and most powerful economy in South Asia by a mile, India already dominates the show. It doesn't need a puppet regime anywhere to underscore its dominance. Good if it has it, doesn't matter if it doesn't.
Pakistanis should learn that dominance in today's world is not all about conquering countries and capturing their land. Those days are long gone.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Never mind the whole of South Asia... they are also dominated at home by a nasty coalition of liberals, secularists and Muslims.

 

[gazza619]

Like what?

An establishment who can settle on less luxuries will be a good start.

 

[Romali_rotti]

India is overrated.

China is the real deal.

This..

Forcing Ughyurs to eat pork and drink alcohol.

Banning the name Mohammad, also rewriting the quran.

Above are a few peaceful behaviours which the Chinese are showing as an example for the Ummah..

Alhamdulillah

China is the real deal sweep shot bro

 

[Hitman]

This..

Forcing Ughyurs to eat pork and drink alcohol.

Banning the name Mohammad, also rewriting the quran.

Above are a few peaceful behaviours which the Chinese are showing as an example for the Ummah..

Alhamdulillah

China is the real deal sweep shot bro

Now watch them label all of it as western propaganda.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Which region are we talking about ? India is not yet a regional power in South Asia, it has ambitions of being one (or atleast I hope it has). Problem is, it was ruled by idiots until 2014 who valued soft power and impractical ideals over hard economic power.

India doesn't have hard economic power in South Asia, that is why it is losing influence to China. In that case soft power is even more important.

 

[Red-Indian]

Ind never had any global domination ambitions. It has always been Ind first policy. Ind has never started a war in its 75 yrs history. All the wars were started by its neighbors - Pak & China. Ind has to protect its borders from the terrorists and other infiltrators and aggressive nations. The relations have always been between 2 countries - Ind and neighbors ; not between a specific party. Ind will work with whoever the gov is in its neighbors. That is a common sense approach. Ind has a working relationship with Afg now. The FM is visiting Maldives this week. Ind congratulated the new Ban PM. And with Pak - well, status quo I guess! Nothing beneficial will come out of it and they wont allow Ind cricket team to go to Pak for CT.

To be fair, Maldives and Bangladesh have to a certain extent exposed certain weaknesses in our foreign policies in our neighborhood

- We do not yet have the kind of resources - money, infrastructure, influence etc. to offer a truly attractive alternative to China. They are able to pour in enough to truly entrap a country. Similar to what the US would do earlier.

- Unlike China, we have allied ourselves too closely with one side in each country. China after some initial missteps in Africa has alighted on a strategy where they align either with both sides (if possible) or with the powers behind the throne.

- We're also a little more transparent in our friendships/relationships. China's learnt to be more circumspect.

All are understandable mistakes. We're still early in flexing our nascent muscles and to be honest, our muscles are not that well developed. We're atleast 15... probably closer to 20 years behind China.

Our time will come as long as we're patient and learn our lessons. China has other priorities in East Asia. We can afford to single-mindedly focus on South Asia.

We also need to be clearer in our strategic goals. Not much in local administration should matter to us beyond not giving China strategic military advantages. America's often made the mistake of also trying to push an ideological agenda. That we should never do.

 

[HalBass9]

As the biggest and most powerful economy in South Asia by a mile, India already dominates the show. It doesn't need a puppet regime anywhere to underscore its dominance. Good if it has it, doesn't matter if it doesn't.
Pakistanis should learn that dominance in today's world is not all about conquering countries and capturing their land. Those days are long gone.

Then why support the former PM of Bangladesh?

 

[deltexas]

Then why support the former PM of Bangladesh?

It doesn't "support ". It has good relationships and tries to maintain that. Nobody wants a hostile neighbor. Ind will have good relations with the new ban gov as well. Support means explicitly backing the regime by military or weapons which is not the case here.
It's a relationship between ind and ban - not between bjp and AL.

 

[sweep_shot]

Indian posters don't seem to understand what kind of damages are happening to their reputation and alliances (thanks to Modi).

Things are moving toward China's grip.

 

[deltexas]

Indian posters don't seem to understand what kind of damages are happening to their reputation and alliances (thanks to Modi).

Things are moving toward China's grip.

Yeah will have multiple puppets of China - pak ban, maybe burma... nothing new. Previously American puppets now Chinese puppets.