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India's foreign minister to visit Pakistan for the first time since 2015​


India's foreign minister S Jaishankar will attend a meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) in Pakistan this month, his ministry has announced.

This will be the first visit by a high ranking Indian minister to Pakistan in nearly a decade.

The trip comes after Mr Jaishankar's Pakistani counterpart attended a similar meeting of foreign ministers from the SCO in India last year - he was the first senior Pakistani politician to visit since 2011.

Relations between the nuclear-armed neighbours have been tense for years and they have fought three wars since they became independent nations in 1947 - two of them over the Himalayan region of Kashmir.

The SCO is a political union of countries formed to discuss security and economic matters in Central Asia.

The organisation was created by China, Russia and four Central Asian countries in 2001 as a countermeasure to limit the influence of Western alliances such as Nato.

India and Pakistan joined the group in 2017.

While India chaired the SCO in 2023, Pakistan will be hosting this year's summit from 15 October to 16 October.

At a press briefing on Friday, India's foreign ministry spokesperson Randhir Jaiswal confirmed that Mr Jaishankar will lead the Indian delegation to Pakistan.

The last time an Indian foreign minister visited the nation was in 2015, when Sushma Swaraj attended a security conference in Islamabad and held rare talks with Pakistani officials.

Days later, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi also made a surprise trip to Lahore where he met then Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.

Ties between India and Pakistan have always been strained but they hit a new low in 2019, when India launched strikes in Pakistani territory, following a militant attack on Indian troops in Indian-administered Kashmir.

Both India and Pakistan claim Kashmir in full, but control only parts of it. Separatist insurgency in Indian-administered Kashmir has led to thousands of deaths over three decades. India accuses Pakistan of supporting insurgents but its neighbour denies this.

A thaw of relations seemed in sight last year when Pakistan's Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari visited the Indian state of Goa for a SCO meeting.

But Mr Zardari said his visit was "focussed exclusively on the SCO" and did not hold any direct talks with Mr Jaishankar during his trip.

In an interview with the BBC at that time, he said that the onus was on India to restart peace talks between the two countries.
 
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Govt calls in Pakistan Army for SCO Summit security in Islamabad​


The Pakistan Army has been called in to provide security for the upcoming Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) Summit, scheduled to take place in Islamabad on 15-16 October. The deployment was approved under Article 245 of the Constitution, according to a notification issued by the Interior Ministry on Friday.

The notification confirmed that the army will oversee the security of key government buildings and the Red Zone in Islamabad. While the Rangers are already stationed in the capital, the military will take over security duties from 5 to 17 October, ensuring heightened protection during the summit.

The federal government has completed its preparations for the event, which will be attended by the heads of state and delegations from the eight member countries of the SCO.

The organisation, established in 2001, promotes political, economic, and security cooperation in the region. Its current members include China, Russia, Pakistan, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan.

In 2023, Iran became a full member of the SCO. Several other countries participate as observers or partners, cooperating with the regional bloc.

Significantly, Indian External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar will also be attending the summit, marking the first high-level visit from India to Pakistan since 2015. The last visit by an Indian foreign minister to Pakistan was in December 2015, when then-minister Sushma Swaraj attended the "Heart of Asia" conference on Afghanistan in Islamabad.

This visit is seen as an opportunity to ease tensions between the two neighbours, which have been strained in recent years.

 
Government must raise the article 370 issue before him. Any omission of it would be considered a fixed match by the incumbent government.
 
Want to see a neutral moderated debate between him and the Pakistani foreign minister.
 
Want to see a neutral moderated debate between him and the Pakistani foreign minister.

A 2 year old child could easily embarrass the current Pakistani foreign minister with nothing more than a few incoherent babbles.
 
Government must raise the article 370 issue before him. Any omission of it would be considered a fixed match by the incumbent government.
Pakistan doesn't recognise article 370 of Indian constitution so what's the need for raising this issue? It's like Pakistan wanting India to change its constitution. How is this possible? It's not like a shared constitution clause of the two countries.
 
Hope the FM requests for release of Imran Khan and pray for free and fair elections in Pakistan with the help of the supreme powerful Xi of China at the SCO.
 
If the ex-PM of Pakistan is not safe in the capital of Pakistan, a diplomat from "dushman mulk" should always be more cautious.
Did you copied and pasted it from Indian WhatsApp and telegram university? Because the one with developed cerebral cortex would not quote me with such immature reply while attempting to appear as if “got ya” moment?
 
I don't think Pakistan should.
Imran Khan was already so obsessed with the Indian constitution that he cut off all contact between both sides of Kashmir to punish India when we changed it.

I'll admit he was an idiot but why would you expect this military government to be any smarter?
 
Thanks for the correction, Pakistan should instead raise the issue of Kashmir plebiscite with him
Pakistan doesn't recognise article 370 of Indian constitution so what's the need for raising this issue? It's like Pakistan wanting India to change its constitution. How is this possible? It's not like a shared constitution clause of the two countries.
 
I believe majority Hindutva would hope and wish that he won’t go to Pakistan.
 
Did you copied and pasted it from Indian WhatsApp and telegram university? Because the one with developed cerebral cortex would not quote me with such immature reply while attempting to appear as if “got ya” moment?
Safety of foreign dignitaries is always a major security headache in summits like this, especially, if the concerned visitor is from an unfriendly nation. What's that got to do with whatsapp or telegram university?
 
Imran Khan was already so obsessed with the Indian constitution that he cut off all contact between both sides of Kashmir to punish India when we changed it.

I'll admit he was an idiot but why would you expect this military government to be any smarter?
That was his mistake. He shouldn't have as Kasmir issue was settled long before Indian abolished article 370.
 
Would Bilawal use the is moment to take revenge?
 
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That was his mistake. He shouldn't have as Kasmir issue was settled long before Indian abolished article 370.
True but I doubt it'll be any different this time.

I'm not sure the Indian government is doing the right thing attending the SCO but I suppose it fits with the general Indian foreign policy of trying to appear as neutral as possible while definitely aligning with the West.

As a developing nation, I suppose it behoves us not to alienate any of the four big powers too much - US, China, Eurozone and Russia (barely clinging on as a world power). This attendance isn't much to do with Pakistan but sort of a signal to China that we haven't turned utterly against them but I fear it's a pointless endeavour given our actions recently.
 
Thanks for the correction, Pakistan should instead raise the issue of Kashmir plebiscite with him
Yes that would be the perfect issue to raise but it's impractical. Pakistan is never going to bring its army back from Pakistan held kashmir and India to maintain only a minimal force to conduct a plebiscite as mentioned in the UN plebiscite conditions. These preconditions before plebiscite can't be met. So final solution is going to be making LOC as the permanent border and having cordial relations between the countries so that people can visit each other.
 
I am happy and pleased that Mr. S Jaishanker is coming to Pakistan. I hope that the idiots and buffons in charge understand the importance of this visit and treat him with utmost respect and dignity. I hope that Peace returns to both nations. Leave article 370 or whatever its called for now. Just small baby steps in improving relations and diplomacy.
 
True but I doubt it'll be any different this time.

I'm not sure the Indian government is doing the right thing attending the SCO but I suppose it fits with the general Indian foreign policy of trying to appear as neutral as possible while definitely aligning with the West.

As a developing nation, I suppose it behoves us not to alienate any of the four big powers too much - US, China, Eurozone and Russia (barely clinging on as a world power). This attendance isn't much to do with Pakistan but sort of a signal to China that we haven't turned utterly against them but I fear it's a pointless endeavour given our actions recently.
You may be right that the Indian foreign minister's visit to Pakistan may not be directly related to Pakistan itself. However, one thing is certain, India cannot afford to overlook its immediate neighbor indefinitely.
 
Yes that would be the perfect issue to raise but it's impractical. Pakistan is never going to bring its army back from Pakistan held kashmir and India to maintain only a minimal force to conduct a plebiscite as mentioned in the UN plebiscite conditions. These preconditions before plebiscite can't be met. So final solution is going to be making LOC as the permanent border and having cordial relations between the countries so that people can visit each other.
Honestly I'm not sure if you're Indian or Pakistani but well said. The solution is so clearly obvious that it's too simple to be implemented.

We'll have to waste hundreds even thousands of lives on both sides before we settle on the only possible solution to this issue.

It's the same with so many other conflicts globally but it hurts when it's your own countrymen.
 
Yes that would be the perfect issue to raise but it's impractical. Pakistan is never going to bring its army back from Pakistan held kashmir and India to maintain only a minimal force to conduct a plebiscite as mentioned in the UN plebiscite conditions. These preconditions before plebiscite can't be met. So final solution is going to be making LOC as the permanent border and having cordial relations between the countries so that people can visit each other.
Unofficially LOC is the permanent border.
 
You may be right that the Indian foreign minister's visit to Pakistan may not be directly related to Pakistan itself. However, one thing is certain, India cannot afford to overlook its immediate neighbor indefinitely.
Yeah you'll see it from how studiously Jaishankar will ignore any bilateral dialogue with Pakistan except for maybe a feelgood photo-op but given Russia and Chinese involvement, India can't afford to take the risk of completely skipping an SCO summit and getting FOMO on what's being discussed. After they're both BRICS partners.

As to engagement with Pakistan, as I've said before, it'll take a Pakistani first step. Even something as simple as refusing Zakir Naik entry or toning down the pointless rhetoric at the UN may have been a start and a signal.
 
Yeah you'll see it from how studiously Jaishankar will ignore any bilateral dialogue with Pakistan except for maybe a feelgood photo-op but given Russia and Chinese involvement, India can't afford to take the risk of completely skipping an SCO summit and getting FOMO on what's being discussed. After they're both BRICS partners.

As to engagement with Pakistan, as I've said before, it'll take a Pakistani first step. Even something as simple as refusing Zakir Naik entry or toning down the pointless rhetoric at the UN may have been a start and a signal.
Pakistan being the host will have a lot of control of the organisation of the summit. This will be true test of Jaishankar's skills as he tries to avoid Pakistan's attempt at embarrassing India as much as possible.
Discussions with Russia and China take priority and also discussions on Azerbijan- Armenia conflict.
 
Honestly I'm not sure if you're Indian or Pakistani but well said. The solution is so clearly obvious that it's too simple to be implemented.

We'll have to waste hundreds even thousands of lives on both sides before we settle on the only possible solution to this issue.

It's the same with so many other conflicts globally but it hurts when it's your own countrymen.
Unofficially LOC is the permanent border.
The solutions are often very simple but the execution requires leaders who are popular & visionary. Very rare to get these two traits together in a leader and that too simulatenously in both the countries. This can't be done without taking the masses along.
 
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The solutions are often very simple but the execution requires leaders who are popular & visionary. Very rare to get these two traits together in a leader and that too simulatenously in both the countries. This can't be done without taking masses the along.
Modi actually had the political clout enough to execute it, but Pakistani establishment will not survive without the Kashmir issue. Musharraf was the best chance possible. I dont see anyone in the future with Pakistan firmly under Chinese control. China cannot be happy with peace between India and Pakistan.
 
The solutions are often very simple but the execution requires leaders who are popular & visionary. Very rare to get these two traits together in a leader and that too simulatenously in both the countries. This can't be done without taking masses the along.
Yep it'll take leaders who're both popular and visionary as you say. Unfortunately both sides are stuck with leaders who fall short. Modi, a populist bigot and either Imran a populist narcissistic idiot or a military government so not much hope.
 
Modi actually had the political clout enough to execute it, but Pakistani establishment will not survive without the Kashmir issue. Musharraf was the best chance possible. I dont see anyone in the future with Pakistan firmly under Chinese control. China cannot be happy with peace between India and Pakistan.
As it has been mention before and it was quite visible under IK premiership, Pakistanis do not care much about Kashmir issue anymore.

It is current Indian government that need anti-Pakistan and anti-Muslim narrative.

Regarding China, it is India that want to appear aggressor in the region.
 
As it has been mention before and it was quite visible under IK premiership, Pakistanis do not care much about Kashmir issue anymore.

It is current Indian government that need anti-Pakistan and anti-Muslim narrative.

Regarding China, it is India that want to appear aggressor in the region.
Can you back up the statements with some references?
 
Might as well take over the government , waste of resources and money being given to Shariffs and Zardaris
 
Matter of time, or maybe the Governor is not openly having beef.
Nah the cow vigilantes are utter cowards and opportunists. They're fine with beating some poor truck driver but like snakes, won't dare emerging into the sunlight
 
Can you back up the statements with some references?
I won't be taking that approach, as there is ample material available for you to conduct that analysis on your own.

However, it's worth noting that during Imran Khan's premiership, following the revocation of Article 370, the anticipated public outcry did not materialize as he had expected. In fact, he even resorted to urging government officials to protest. Shabbar Zaidi has publicly acknowledged this.
 
As it has been mention before and it was quite visible under IK premiership, Pakistanis do not care much about Kashmir issue anymore.

It is current Indian government that need anti-Pakistan and anti-Muslim narrative.

Regarding China, it is India that want to appear aggressor in the region.

The pakistani government keeps talking about Kashmir, keeps financing separatist terrorist movement in Kashmir.

Any government concerned about the country's security will talk about it.

Most of the West, Taiwan Philippines Vietnam Japan and others call China as the aggressor.
 
The pakistani government keeps talking about Kashmir, keeps financing separatist terrorist movement in Kashmir.

Any government concerned about the country's security will talk about it.

Most of the West, Taiwan Philippines Vietnam Japan and others call China as the aggressor.
Meh
 

Pak visit for multilateral event, not to discuss diplomatic ties: S Jaishankar​


External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar, who is scheduled to visit Pakistan later this month for the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit, said on Saturday that his visit to the neighbouring country is for a multilateral event, not for discussions on India-Pakistan relations.

"It (visit) will be for a multilateral event. I'm not going there to discuss India-Pakistan relations. I'm going there to be a good member of the SCO. But, you know, since I'm a courteous and civil person, I will behave myself accordingly,” the Union Minister said.

Jaishankar noted that typically the Prime Minister attends such high-level meetings with heads of state, but "it changes" sometimes.

“So your question, I think, is, what am I planning for it? Of course, I'm planning to go... In my business, you plan for everything which you're going to do, and for a lot of things which you're not going to do and which could also happen. I mean, you plan for that as well,” he said.

Pakistan is hosting the SCO summit in Islamabad on October 15-16. India confirmed on August 30 that it had received an invitation from Pakistan for the upcoming summit.

Jaishankar’s trip to Islamabad will mark the first visit by a high-ranking Indian minister to the country in nearly a decade. The last external affairs minister to visit Pakistan was Sushma Swaraj, who travelled to Islamabad in December 2015 to attend a conference on Afghanistan.

The SCO was founded as a political union of Central Asian nations--Russia, China, the Kyrgyz Republic, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan--to discuss security and economic matters. India and Pakistan became permanent members in 2017.

 
Thanks for the correction, Pakistan should instead raise the issue of Kashmir plebiscite with him
According to the UN resolution, Pakistan must first vacate the part of Kashmir occupied by it, before a plebiscite can be held.
One doesn't need a Jaishankar to tell Pakistanis that.
 
PTI to invite Indian FM to address party protest in Islamabad: Barrister Saif

In a surprising move, Barrister Ali Saif, information adviser to the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa government, has said that his party would invite Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar to address their protest at D-Chowk during his upcoming visit to Islamabad for the SCO summit.

Said said while speaking to private TV channel.

PTI would invite the Indian foreign minister to attend its protest and address it so that he could see how strong democracy was in Pakistan, he added.

PTI had announced protests against the government this week and moved to gather at Islamabad’s D-Chowk.

Meanwhile, Federal Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi has categorically stated that the government will not allow the PTI to sabotage the upcoming SCO summit in Pakistan.

In a media talk at D-Chowk today, Naqvi expressed his confidence in the police force and other law enforcement agencies, saying that their morale is high.

He said that the SCO conference is the top priority currently, and the presence of international delegations in the capital is a testament to its importance.

Naqvi accused the PTI of attempting to disrupt the summit, but assured that the government would not let that happen. He mentioned that the police, FC, Rangers, and Army are all on high alert to ensure the event’s security. The minister warned that anyone attempting to sabotage the summit would be dealt with firmly.

Earlier, a comprehensive security plan for the upcoming SCO summit was approved at a meeting chaired by Federal Minister for Interior Mohsin Naqvi.

Additional personnel from Pakistan Army, Rangers, FC and Punjab police will be deployed to ensure foolproof security for the guests, said Naqvi.

The SCO, comprising India, China, Russia, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, is an influential economic and security bloc that has emerged as one of the largest trans-regional international organisations.

 
PTI to invite Indian FM to address party protest in Islamabad: Barrister Saif

In a surprising move, Barrister Ali Saif, information adviser to the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa government, has said that his party would invite Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar to address their protest at D-Chowk during his upcoming visit to Islamabad for the SCO summit.

Said said while speaking to private TV channel.

PTI would invite the Indian foreign minister to attend its protest and address it so that he could see how strong democracy was in Pakistan, he added.

PTI had announced protests against the government this week and moved to gather at Islamabad’s D-Chowk.

Meanwhile, Federal Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi has categorically stated that the government will not allow the PTI to sabotage the upcoming SCO summit in Pakistan.

In a media talk at D-Chowk today, Naqvi expressed his confidence in the police force and other law enforcement agencies, saying that their morale is high.

He said that the SCO conference is the top priority currently, and the presence of international delegations in the capital is a testament to its importance.

Naqvi accused the PTI of attempting to disrupt the summit, but assured that the government would not let that happen. He mentioned that the police, FC, Rangers, and Army are all on high alert to ensure the event’s security. The minister warned that anyone attempting to sabotage the summit would be dealt with firmly.

Earlier, a comprehensive security plan for the upcoming SCO summit was approved at a meeting chaired by Federal Minister for Interior Mohsin Naqvi.

Additional personnel from Pakistan Army, Rangers, FC and Punjab police will be deployed to ensure foolproof security for the guests, said Naqvi.

The SCO, comprising India, China, Russia, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, is an influential economic and security bloc that has emerged as one of the largest trans-regional international organisations.

Are PTI guys idiots? Why would Indian Foreign Minister comment on Pakistan's democracy? It is for local Pakistanis to sort/comment about.
 
PTI to invite Indian FM to address party protest in Islamabad: Barrister Saif

In a surprising move, Barrister Ali Saif, information adviser to the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa government, has said that his party would invite Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar to address their protest at D-Chowk during his upcoming visit to Islamabad for the SCO summit.

Said said while speaking to private TV channel.

PTI would invite the Indian foreign minister to attend its protest and address it so that he could see how strong democracy was in Pakistan, he added.

PTI had announced protests against the government this week and moved to gather at Islamabad’s D-Chowk.

Meanwhile, Federal Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi has categorically stated that the government will not allow the PTI to sabotage the upcoming SCO summit in Pakistan.

In a media talk at D-Chowk today, Naqvi expressed his confidence in the police force and other law enforcement agencies, saying that their morale is high.

He said that the SCO conference is the top priority currently, and the presence of international delegations in the capital is a testament to its importance.

Naqvi accused the PTI of attempting to disrupt the summit, but assured that the government would not let that happen. He mentioned that the police, FC, Rangers, and Army are all on high alert to ensure the event’s security. The minister warned that anyone attempting to sabotage the summit would be dealt with firmly.

Earlier, a comprehensive security plan for the upcoming SCO summit was approved at a meeting chaired by Federal Minister for Interior Mohsin Naqvi.

Additional personnel from Pakistan Army, Rangers, FC and Punjab police will be deployed to ensure foolproof security for the guests, said Naqvi.

The SCO, comprising India, China, Russia, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, is an influential economic and security bloc that has emerged as one of the largest trans-regional international organisations.

What is happening in pakistan its their internal matter so why would Indian FM attend the rally or comment on this matter .
 
I think he should. Would be lovely to see Jaishankar sitting in Islamabad and castigating Pakistan for cross border terrorism.

He's already said he's not going to discuss Pak-Indian matters, he's going as a good SCO member. I would like to think the Pakistan delegates will refrain from castigating hiim on Indian cross border terrorism. Important to maintain a professional decorum at such events.
 
I think he should. Would be lovely to see Jaishankar sitting in Islamabad and castigating Pakistan for cross border terrorism.

Bit upsetting that Indian FM visits a country that gives red carpet to an Indian fugitive. Expected better from Indian govt. Nonetheless, the key for Jaishankar now is to stay safe there and get out ASAP. No point discussing cross border terrorism there. We must raise it in forums like UNGA.
 
Tbh, I think his current visit is going to be futile and just PR exercise for both countries.
 
There are currently no elections in India, so it seems unlikely that the country would feel the need to construct a ‘Pakistan boogeyman’ narrative. Therefore, it is improbable that India would deploy assets within Pakistan to target the Indian Foreign Minister.

However, given the tendencies of the current Hindutva-aligned government, one cannot entirely dismiss the possibility. They have shown a willingness to go to great lengths in perpetuating anti-Muslim and anti-Pakistani rhetoric.

So, yea, I hope Pakistani government can provide him tight security against Indian state sponsored terrorists.
 
There are currently no elections in India, so it seems unlikely that the country would feel the need to construct a ‘Pakistan boogeyman’ narrative. Therefore, it is improbable that India would deploy assets within Pakistan to target the Indian Foreign Minister.

However, given the tendencies of the current Hindutva-aligned government, one cannot entirely dismiss the possibility. They have shown a willingness to go to great lengths in perpetuating anti-Muslim and anti-Pakistani rhetoric.

So, yea, I hope Pakistani government can provide him tight security against Indian state sponsored terrorists.

Maharashtra and Jharkhand elections are next month. One should not speak without knowing.

No one needs to tell any Indian that Pakistan is a hostile state.
 
Government must raise the article 370 issue before him. Any omission of it would be considered a fixed match by the incumbent government.

What’s left in this issue? It’s a history now… we hve to forward…. Also he is foreign minister not a PM or HM.

Still if any Pak reporter asked him he will definitely say “forget article 370 now, stone pelters got a job”
 
There has been no such visit in the last decade. this is not a small thing that Indian minister is visiting Pakistan.

He is attending the SCO meeting. He isn't in Pakistan for sny bilateral meet.

Understand the difference.
 
Brother, where is that SCO meeting to be held???? Can you Understand that??

Country heads go to USA regularly to the annual UNGA. Doesn't mean they are on a bilateral US visit.


Sergey Lavrov cannot travel to USA as he is on USA sanctions list, yet he could attend the UNGA. Because its not a bilateral visit.

Understand the difference.
 
Country heads go to USA regularly to the annual UNGA. Doesn't mean they are on a bilateral US visit.


Sergey Lavrov cannot travel to USA as he is on USA sanctions list, yet he could attend the UNGA. Because its not a bilateral visit.

Understand the difference.
Nobody is calling it a bilateral visit Brother.
 
Country heads go to USA regularly to the annual UNGA. Doesn't mean they are on a bilateral US visit.


Sergey Lavrov cannot travel to USA as he is on USA sanctions list, yet he could attend the UNGA. Because its not a bilateral visit.

Understand the difference.
Yes agreed.

It is very insignificant and too much is being read into the visit.
 
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