India's obsession with lighter skin

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India's unfair obsession with lighter skin

By Monisha Rajesh

The Dark is Beautiful campaign hopes to halt India's huge appetite for skin whitening products, and has a new champion in film star Nandita Das

"You look green!" said a friend. "Are you ill?" asked another. Last year, a respected Indian newspaper published a photograph of me online which had been lightened so drastically by the art director's magic wand that I called the editor to complain and he apologised and replaced it with the original. The art director had thought he was doing me a favour by whitening my skin.

India's obsession with fair skin is well documented: in 1978, Unilever launched Fair & Lovely cream, which has subsequently spawned numerous whitening face cleansers, shower gels and even vaginal washes that claim to lighten the surrounding skin. In 2010, India's whitening-cream market was worth $432m, according to a report by market researchers ACNielsen, and was growing at 18% per year. Last year, Indians reportedly consumed 233 tonnes of skin-whitening products, spending more money on them than on Coca-Cola.

Cricket players and Bollywood stars regularly endorse these products. But now the film star Nandita Das has taken a stance against the craze and given her support to the Dark is Beautiful campaign which challenges the belief that success and beauty are determined by skin colour. "I want people to be comfortable in their own skin and realise that there is more to life than skin colour," she says, adding that an Indian paper had written "about my support for the campaign and then lightened the photo of me that went alongside it".

While she agrees that there is a long history behind the obsession with skin colour, owing to caste and culture, she thinks the current causes should be targeted first. "Indians are very racist. It's deeply ingrained. But there is so much pressure by peer groups, magazines, billboards and TV adverts that perpetuate this idea that fair is the ideal," she says.

Das has often faced directors and makeup artists trying to lighten her when she plays the role of an educated, upper-class woman. "They always say to me: 'Don't worry, we will lighten you, we're really good at it,' as a reassurance. It's perpetuating a stereotype that only fair-skinned women can be educated and successful."

In 2005, the cosmetics company Emami launched Fair & Handsome for men, with an ad featuring the Bollywood star Shah Rukh Khan tossing a tube of whitening cream to a hopeful young fan, which the Dark is Beautiful campaign is seeking to have withdrawn. "Shah Rukh Khan is saying that to be successful you have to be fair," says Das. "Don't these people have any kind of conscience? You can't be naive; you know what kind of impact you have and yet you send out the message that says: 'Forget about working hard, it's about skin colour.'"

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/aug/14/indias-dark-obsession-fair-skin
 
I would like to know their usage of whitening creams in respect to their population.

It is safe to assume that they consume a lot more of many things because of having the second most populous country in the world.

It is obviously going to use a lot more creams than a country at no 6 in terms of population (Pakistan).
 
Secondly, coke is extremely bad for health and whitening creams aren't good either but they aren't as bad as coke.

Not sure what was the purpose of this analogy. Great to see India consuming less coke than whitening creams.
 
Well though it's a stereotype, it's hard to deny that it isn't true to an extent in society. Your complexion matters a lot more in modern times than it did some years ago, in all aspects of life.
 
dont know about obsession with fairness, but their is something peculiar to mentality of some , I was watching a documentary on Indian cricket "Empire Of Cricket----India" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAcIkiZSL3M) and it is full of such absurd sentences even from seasoned experts like Harsh Bhogle.

some of the sentences were like

........ this shows that a brown hand can hit six to a white.

Arrival of Kapil dev showed that an Indian can also bowl a bouncer to white.

-------- showed that an Indian can be equally good.

Aggressiveness of particular player depicts the transition in society because of economic growth.

I dont think across border Pakistan ever had such feelings regarding their cricket or players.
 
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their national heroes have starred in ads promoting whitening creams, yes it's a problem : shahrukh
 
they were not absurd statements. they depict the reality.

there IS an inferiority complex when it comes to comparing with the whites (although the present generation could hold its own, but wasnt the case for the earlier generations). cricket started in india trying to emulate the whites. first it was parsis, the most affluent, who started playing cricket, then hindus, and then muslims..each one found it respectful to play the game of the whites. so naturally there was a deference and inferiority complex attached. present generation wont think too much of a kohli hitting a white bowler for six (and wont even see the bowler as a white), but it is understandable if it was a big thing then for a brown to play well against the white.
 
In the end, fairer people are generally topping the charts among good looking people. Even Beyonce is 'fair' for a black woman. You can see where the purchasing of whitening cream perpetuates.

Is it unfair? Hell yes.

BUT, that's what you get with society in this day and age. I don't think its limited to India, but all over the world.
 
have seen a lot of sucking up by the indians in usa. if they come for phd, they will avoid working with a brown professor and go for a white one. when buying a car, they will trust a white over a brown..for some reasons indians dont trust indians when it comes to business. in some indian cultural festival, i saw that indians were serving at the food counter (even though it was supposed to be a buffet). when a brown came, they would say, hey only take one. when the white sahib came..they would offer extra helpings with their most courteous smile. lots of other disgusting examples of neo slave mentality which i will leave for some other day.
 
their national heroes have starred in ads promoting whitening creams, yes it's a problem : shahrukh

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it is a big problem in pakistani society as well. dont trust anyone who says otherwise. just notice how some pakistanis identify themselves with white skin. anything dark is not a quintessential pakistani. there was a tv show some time back, making fun of balochs for their dark skin.
 
People who bleach look disgusting.I don't know where they get the idea that they look natural.
 
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Its just ironic.

Whites want to be darker, browns want to be lighter, blacks don't care lol.
 
It is a fact that India , Pakistan and BD people are partial to white skin. I do not think it will go away.
 
How many black actresses in Hollywood have been famous ?

Not subcontinent, its true for everywhere.
 
I think no white wants to be dark, they want a shade of light brown. I find a hint of light brown to be most sensuous.
 
Re: India's unfair obsession with lighter skin

Well to br fair, Pak has much more whiter skin people than their neighbour.

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I think no white wants to be dark, they want a shade of light brown. I find a hint of light brown to be most sensuous.

There is a reason for Latinas being considered the most attractive women as a whole. :akhtar
 
dont know about obsession with fairness, but their is something peculiar to mentality of some , I was watching a documentary on Indian cricket "Empire Of Cricket----India" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAcIkiZSL3M) and it is full of such absurd sentences even from seasoned experts like Harsh Bhogle.

some of the sentences were like

........ this shows that a brown hand can hit six to a white.

Arrival of Kapil dev showed that an Indian can also bowl a bouncer to white.

-------- showed that an Indian can be equally good.

Aggressiveness of particular player depicts the transition in society because of economic growth.

I dont think across border Pakistan ever had such feelings regarding their cricket or players.


lol, you will get these sort of gems from the likes of Harsha and Manjerakar. Both of them are from the 1960's school of cricket. You see both of them, Harsha weighs hardly 50 kgs and if you kick him, he will not hit back. He is a nerd and thinks like a nerd. you will get these sort of gems from that unmanly fool. You will hear these sort of gems from Manjerakar as well. He has hardly hit sixers in his life, his strike rate has to be one of the worst in indian cricket. He thinks like that, passive, non aggressive manner.

These are the people who should have never made it to the higher levels, but getting educated in good schools have got them in these positions. If we want to know real india, you gotta hear people like sehwag, gavaskar or bhajji.
 
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lol, you will get these sort of gems from the likes of Harsha and Manjerakar. Both of them are from the 1960's school of cricket. You see both of them, Harsha weighs hardly 50 kgs and if you kick him, he will not hit back. He is a nerd and thinks like a nerd. you will get these sort of gems from that unmanly fool. You will hear these sort of gems from Manjerakar as well. He has hardly hit sixers in his life, his strike rate has to be one of the worst in indian cricket. He thinks like that, passive, non aggressive manner.

These are the people who should have never made it to the higher levels, but getting educated in good schools have got them in these positions. If we want to know real india, you gotta hear people like sehwag, gavaskar or bhajji.

lol!! that is exactly what I was thinking(many gems from him throughout but part when Saurav Ganguly removes his shirt stands out :yk) . I found rahul bhattacharya best of the lot.
 
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obsession with lighter skin is also here in PK.. i've seen people been treated differently because of lighter skin color..
 
Whats wrong in wanting to be fair?

nothing wrong in wanting to be white, yellow or pink.

what is wrong in discriminating based on color. giving preferential treatment to those with a particular skin shade. considering someone superior or inferior based on color.
 
lol!! that is exactly what I was thinking(many gems from him throughout but part when Saurav Ganguly removes his shirt stands out :yk) . I found rahul bhattacharya best of the lot.

Nah...Sourav did that in reply to Flintoff. Flintoff did that in India when they won an OD series. I remember sourav watching that incident sitting in the balcony. I remember Sourav talking about that incident to Ravi shastri in an interview and he told him that he pre planned doing it in lords if India goes on to win NatWest series against England. Infact Flintoff was so ****** off at sourav, that he accused sourav behaving like prince of England when he played for a same county side with him. Sourav has to be the best indian captain India ever produced. We don't find that funny.
 
From my experiences and observations, Pakistanis tend to show a lot more paranoia regarding fair skin. This is despite being relatively fairer than other southern sub continental people. While a lot of darker Indians simply prefer being fairer, i often see already fair Pakistanis trying to put even more make up to look ultra fair and even showing off as if this natural state of being is a big deal.

Take this video for example, i haven't seen this amount of madness, insensitivity and retardedness ever on a tv show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0G-J1NAhTo
 
Ganguly won my respect just for that act of baring his chest on the so called mecca of cricket. loved it to see the offense it caused. if flintoff can do it in mumbai, ganguly did it at their sanctum sanctorum of cricket and defiled its holiness.
 
To be fair this phenomenon is not just limited to the subcontinent. In one of his skits Dave Chappelle talks about how he was treated differently for being the darkest in the family. There are tabloid reports about black actresses (Beyone) magically getting lighter and a while ago there was a serious article about the dangers models go through to get their skin bleached in Africa. Now this is just Africa, I think similar things are happening in the Philippines and many East Asian countries.

obsession with lighter skin is also here in PK.. i've seen people been treated differently because of lighter skin color..

it is a big problem in pakistani society as well. dont trust anyone who says otherwise. just notice how some pakistanis identify themselves with white skin. anything dark is not a quintessential pakistani. there was a tv show some time back, making fun of balochs for their dark skin.

I won't dispute the fact that it is a problem in Pakistan but I wouldn't think it's anywhere as serious as it is in India. And anyways at least from what I've seen people want to look like Shahid Afridi.......(no exactly white) I don't think that's too much to ask for (I joke)
 

no, indians are not racist. a racist is one who believes in the superiority of his race and discriminates between others outside his race.

indians are white skin worshippers. so how can we be racist? we bend over backwards for the white skin.
 
Ganguly won my respect just for that act of baring his chest on the so called mecca of cricket. loved it to see the offense it caused. if flintoff can do it in mumbai, ganguly did it at their sanctum sanctorum of cricket and defiled its holiness.

Sounds pretty devilish. :kapil :kapil Hats off to Dada. :))
 
I won't dispute the fact that it is a problem in Pakistan but I wouldn't think it's anywhere as serious as it is in India. And anyways at least from what I've seen people want to look like Shahid Afridi.......(no exactly white) I don't think that's too much to ask for (I joke)

even with the preference for white skin, we can see dark complexioned actresses in bollywood. i am unaware of any dark actress in pakistan.

why does afridi ad says max fairness for max confidence?
 
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Ambi is himself racist, kinda guy who would never share his idli sambar with a hindi speaker. Rise above hate, bitter folks dont get to judge India.
 
Nah...Sourav did that in reply to Flintoff. Flintoff did that in India when they won an OD series. I remember sourav watching that incident sitting in the balcony. I remember Sourav talking about that incident to Ravi shastri in an interview and he told him that he pre planned doing it in lords if India goes on to win NatWest series against England. Infact Flintoff was so ****** off at sourav, that he accused sourav behaving like prince of England when he played for a same county side with him. Sourav has to be the best indian captain India ever produced. We don't find that funny.

you got me wrong, I meant comments of harsha and other on that celebration(www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uV515KIBvM 2:50-3:52 ). It was completely normal from saurav a celebration nothing more nothing less.
 
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Ambi is himself racist, kinda guy who would never share his idli sambar with a hindi speaker. Rise above hate, bitter folks dont get to judge India.
Says a guy who don't like including lower caste hindus in the list of common hindus
 
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nothing wrong in wanting to be white, yellow or pink.

what is wrong in discriminating based on color. giving preferential treatment to those with a particular skin shade. considering someone superior or inferior based on color.

thats exactly my point.nothing wrong in wanting to be fair.It can;t be called racist as we dont discriminate based on color
 
even with the preference for white skin, we can see dark complexioned actresses in bollywood. i am unaware of any dark actress in pakistan.

why does afridi ad says max fairness for max confidence?

Well first of all of course there will be less "dark skinned" (I don't even know what constitutes dark skin really) actresses in Pakistan. Pakistanis on the whole are quite a bit more light brown than India (Would you dispute that?) And even though Ive only watched two pakistani dramas my whole life even I know of one or two(she's quite famous in Pakistan considering how many adverts shes it):


why does afridi ad says max fairness for max confidence?

Because its an advert for skin lightening cream and they want to maximize their so called advantages (marketing Ploy). Let's not make a mistake, skin lightening is attractive in Asia and Africa just like boeb jobs are tan salons are big in US and Europe. They appeal to people's vanity.
 

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Says a guy who don't like to including lower caste hindus in the list of common hindus

Dont make up stuff Shorty. I dont think of any caste as lower, i only judge people. :moyo
 
no, indians are not racist. a racist is one who believes in the superiority of his race and discriminates between others outside his race.

indians are white skin worshippers. so how can we be racist? we bend over backwards for the white skin.
people of north east and south india may not agree with you.for me casteism=racism
 
Posting random videos from internet will not prove anything about color discrimination in Pakistan.

There are two types of major skin colors in Pakistan one is brown(typical examples younis khan, Shoaib malik, ex PM yousaf raza gillani etc range spectrum for color streches on both sides of this brown) other is fair. The social discrimination is almost non existent b/w these two major colors, there might be few cases but they are exceptions.
 
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cant believe that pakistanis will be any different than indians in their social vices. pakistanis and indians are cut from the same cloth..with has been painted with different dyes.
 
Another example (might not be that relevant as both are famous) is that Shoaib Akhter The Rawalpindi Express is considered more 'glamorous' than Afridi in Pakistan.
 
Here's an ad from a Pakistani matrimonial site

NDEPENDENT GIRL/ LADY REQUIRED ( RAWALPINDI/ ISLAMBAD) [This ad has picture(s)] I AM VERY GENTLE ,VERY SYMPATHATIC , VERY KIND HEART, EDUCATED , HANDSOME WITH FAIR COMPLEXION AGE 34 Y, HAVING OWN JOB , FULFILLING ALL OWN FINACIAL REQUIREMENTS.
 
Another example (might not be that relevant as both are famous) is that Shoaib Akhter The Rawalpindi Express is considered more 'glamorous' than Afridi in Pakistan.

While in India Bipasha Basu/ Deepika etc. are considered bad-looking and Kangana Ranawat good-looking.
 
cant believe that pakistanis will be any different than indians in their social vices. pakistanis and indians are cut from the same cloth..with has been painted with different dyes.

there is difference of religion , majority of Pakistanis follow Islam, Islamic teachings are very clear on no discrimnation on the bases of color, race etc.
 
Lol,at that ad mentioning the person to be gentle,very sympathetic and very kind heart.more than the handsome and fairskinned part,this is what caught my eyes and made me laugh very hard.never heard it before like this.
 
there is difference of religion , majority of Pakistanis follow Islam, Islamic teachings are very clear on no discrimnation on the bases of color, race etc.

i know, that is what i said they are colored with different dyes.

and the islam practiced in the sub continent is very much different from true islam.
 
there is difference of religion , majority of Pakistanis follow Islam, Islamic teachings are very clear on no discrimnation on the bases of color, race etc.

Bhai Jan !! pls - in a country where people are dying every day due to being shia/sunni/Christians ...

Yar lets lets stick to colour on this one.
 
Bhai Jan !! pls - in a country where people are dying every day due to being shia/sunni/Christians ...

Yar lets lets stick to colour on this one.

I just talk about an implication that a religion might have on a society because of a rule(no discrimination on color) being cornerstone of its teachings, nothing more than that.
 
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there is difference of religion , majority of Pakistanis follow Islam, Islamic teachings are very clear on no discrimnation on the bases of color, race etc.

Hinduism/Sikhism etc also don't teach that. Only people are messed up.
 
it is a big problem in pakistani society as well. dont trust anyone who says otherwise. just notice how some pakistanis identify themselves with white skin. anything dark is not a quintessential pakistani. there was a tv show some time back, making fun of balochs for their dark skin.

its a problem ..but not a big one...

as most of Pakistanis are wheatish to fair color (Dark skinned are generally migrated from east :d)

and show made fun of Makrani Baloach (it was a wrong thing to do)..however Makranis are in small number..and regular Balouchs are generally very fair..
 
what about casteism in Hinduism? if that is not discrimination then what is it ?
 
its a problem ..but not a big one...

as most of Pakistanis are wheatish to fair color (Dark skinned are generally migrated from east :d)

and show made fun of Makrani Baloach (it was a wrong thing to do)..however Makranis are in small number..and regular Balouchs are generally very fair..

That is my point, I dont think most Pakistanis will discriminate b/w Younis Khan and Shahid Afridi( as common persons representing two major skin shades in Pakistan) in job hiring etc. There is some discrimination for dark people(very sadly) for certain jobs, but it is not that visible.
 
Women in north africa were doing the same, buying cheap products as well to the detriment of their health. There was a documentary about as well. I dont know whats the obsession with a lighter complexion and wigs, nothing puts me off than a woman wearing a wig.
 
I would say...if you want to be fair...its VERY wrong...

(is there any scientific evidence that "fair is better"?)
Actually,,people with dark skins have less chance of developing skin cancer than people with fair/white skin.It is because dark colored people have more melanin,a pigment,that protects the skin from harmful ultra violet light thus preventing damage to skin cells.
 
I would say...if you want to be fair...its VERY wrong...

(is there any scientific evidence that "fair is better"?)

Not better its just a preference for some. You regularly see people with light skins go for tanning in USA and northern Europe. The only reason this is being considered here as somewhat racist is because of our own inferiority complex.
 
Do you know people with darker skins tend to inherit whiter teeth ? my dentist told this to me yesterday.
 
no, indians are not racist. a racist is one who believes in the superiority of his race and discriminates between others outside his race.

indians are white skin worshippers. so how can we be racist? we bend over backwards for the white skin.

Racism is not necessarily about one's own race.
 
Actually,,people with dark skins have less chance of developing skin cancer than people with fair/white skin.It is because dark colored people have more melanin,a pigment,that protects the skin from harmful ultra violet light thus preventing damage to skin cells.

Dark skin is not better than white skin (unless albinos). Dark skin is more benefitial in a sunny environment since it prevents a certain proportion of genetical mutations to the dna through the uv rays, while white skin is better in a northern environment, the less numerous mutations being generally repared anyways, so that the energy expense of having a dark skin is not necessary.
 
Thais, Japanese, Chinese... All of them have been accused of having a liking for the fair skin.

What next ? Unfair obsession with good height ? Looks ? Appearance ? Hair ? Size Zero ? Six pack abs ?

Why bother with any sort of these appearances at all if obsession with anything is bad ?
 
I agree that we are obsessed with white skin. When my son was born I can remember one of the ladies saying don't worry he is chitta.
 
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What really bothers me is the govt audacity to allow such ads where some girl couldn't get married because "rishtay waaliyan" reject her as dark skinned. Then she uses fair n lovely or whatever and becomes light skinned within days, and then gets engaged/married to whoever. And the ad ends with smiles.

What it does is two things. Push the rishta finder mothers look for a lighter skin girl as it sounds to be the industry standard. And it would be a question of ego and shame if they get their son married to a dark skin girl.

The second thing is: Those million upon millions dark skin girls develop a deep complex due to their dark skin. Their personality is shattered, their confidence takes a nose dive (yes there are exceptions) but generally speaking ,,, these money hungry businesses make billions at the expense of people's lives.

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If I had the choice I would STRICTLY banned such ads and ask the manufactures that if your product REALLY WORKS then go sell it in Africa. It's a better market there.
 
Caste system isn't a religious thing. Its cultural.

@Ambi-


Which scripture contains racist stuff? Care to elaborate?
 
Dark skin is not better than white skin (unless albinos). Dark skin is more benefitial in a sunny environment since it prevents a certain proportion of genetical mutations to the dna through the uv rays, while white skin is better in a northern environment, the less numerous mutations being generally repared anyways, so that the energy expense of having a dark skin is not necessary.

True.I did not say that it was better.I was just comparing the two.
 
I do not need any such cream , i am chitta but i consume at least 500 ml of coke every day .
 
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