IPL final shown at Lord's, after England vs Pakistan Test ended

[Hawkeye]

Specially arrangements were made to show the IPL final on a big screen at the Home of Cricket.

People who had come for Eng vs. Pak Test match were allowed to stay and watch the final.


This points to something very important and worrying (from Pak's perspective). IPL is growing like a wild fire.

Its attraction and interest for the international audience is also spreading at exponential rate. Probably set to overtake world's richest leagues like NFL, NBA, MLB.

One can argue it's not just worrisome for Pak, but also other leagues and Test/ODI cricket in general. Seems to be the only league that has real importance around the world, and intl selections are now made on the basis of performances there.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Why would people at Lord's care about this? Weird.

 

[Rana]

Lol why should Pak worry?

At any point in the future IPL will maximise its popularity by appealing to the 170M population that is neighbouring its country. In the next 5 years you will see Pakistani players in the IPL I can assure you. Money talks

 

[CanadianG00se]

Specially arrangements were made to show the IPL final on a big screen at the Home of Cricket.

People who had come for Eng vs. Pak Test match were allowed to stay and watch the final.


This points to something very important and worrying (from Pak's perspective). IPL is growing like a wild fire.

Its attraction and interest for the international audience is also spreading at exponential rate. Probably set to overtake world's richest leagues like NFL, NBA, MLB.

One can argue it's not just worrisome for Pak, but also other leagues and Test/ODI cricket in general. Seems to be the only league that has real importance around the world, and intl selections are now made on the basis of performances there.

IPL is baby compared to those mentioned leagues.

However, you’re right that IPL is growing and very popular among Indians globally. Not sure why it should be a concern for Pakistan as they have their PSL which also have huge potential when they are able to host at home.
I still think they can all co-exhists. The real problem will arise when and If IPL decides to have exclusivity clause in contract where players no longer can play multiple leagues. PSL and other leagues would suffer a massive blow as they will lose out on quality players. Until that happens, I dont see a problem to any one.

 

[Hawkeye]

Why would people at Lord's care about this? Weird.

Because they do care, and want to watch it, and did watch it.

Can't see the final of ANY other (cricket) league being screened at Lord's.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Why should Pak be worried?

 

[CanadianG00se]

Lol why should Pak worry?

At any point in the future IPL will maximise its popularity by appealing to the 170M population that is neighbouring its country. In the next 5 years you will see Pakistani players in the IPL I can assure you. Money talks

Tbh IPL isnt even concerned about growing into neighbouring markets. As of now, they have only managed to tap into urban areas of India. Last year Ipl managed to attract 400M eyeballs for entire season which in my opinion is way less than what it can if marketed properly. I cant imagine how huge IPL would get when and if every game attracts close to a billion eyeballs.

So, you see Pakistan market as of now( even for next 10 years) is completely irrelevant and No i do not see Pakistani players in IPL as it brings lot of baggage specially visas issues, Mumbai issues, public sentiments, etc. Tbh I dont think i have felt that IPL have been missing Pakistani players.

 

[Hawkeye]

Lol why should Pak worry?

At any point in the future IPL will maximise its popularity by appealing to the 170M population that is neighbouring its country. In the next 5 years you will see Pakistani players in the IPL I can assure you. Money talks

Why should Pak be worried?

Because it's shadowing the popularity of demand of other leagues, like the PSL. And, if IPL has total domination over its players, they can also ask them to not play other leagues.

Besides, the earning potential will get so enormous, active and popular cricketers will hardly think about risking injuries in other small leagues.

IPL is baby compared to those mentioned leagues.

However, you’re right that IPL is growing and very popular among Indians globally. Not sure why it should be a concern for Pakistan as they have their PSL which also have huge potential when they are able to host at home.
I still think they can all co-exhists. The real problem will arise when and If IPL decides to have exclusivity clause in contract where players no longer can play multiple leagues. PSL and other leagues would suffer a massive blow as they will lose out on quality players. Until that happens, I dont see a problem to any one.

It's a baby as of now, but the growth rate is amazing. I was talking about future, like 5 to 10 years.

And yes, they can include that clause. In current political context, they can even just exclude PSL. Which is a real worry.

 

[shane]

There was hardly anybody left at Lord's by the end of the Test match.

 

[Hawkeye]

Tbh IPL isnt even concerned about growing into neighbouring markets.

That's where you're wrong.

They're already planning to hold it in the UK. SA and UAE were also successes.

 

[Hawkeye]

There was hardly anybody left at Lord's by the end of the Test match.

It's not about filling the ground.

It's about the principle. Why would Lord's show a franchise T20 league's final that's not even in the UK?

 

[CanadianG00se]

Because it's shadowing the popularity of demand of other leagues, like the PSL. And, if IPL has total domination over its players, they can also ask them to not play other leagues.

Besides, the earning potential will get so enormous, active and popular cricketers will hardly think about risking injuries in other small leagues.




It's a baby as of now, but the growth rate is amazing. I was talking about future, like 5 to 10 years.

And yes, they can include that clause. In current political context, they can even just exclude PSL. Which is a real worry.

Its law of nature, only strongest survives.

In order for PSL or any other league to survive, they would need to do something, maybe joint-venture with SL, and BD and setup APL. If and when BCCI starts dominating in league cricket, I see smaller leagues will forever be in the shadows and Ipl rejects will be household names in those leagues. I just dont see any other nation (heck even if the rest of cricket world get together) they can’t outdo IPL in monetary wise. IPL is just huge and after 5 years, I can see IPL making at least $1B/ year just from broadcasting deal.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Baffled at the fuss being made over this.

IPL Final is a major cricketing event like it or not. Lords is the Home of Cricket. The owners want to keep people in the stadium as long as possible so they buy food and drink etc. Showing the IPL Final is an absolute no brainer, how is this even surprising.

 

[Pete Rose]

I assume they showed the final so that the folks who bought tickets for day 4 don’t go home feeling like they didn’t get their money’s worth

 

[CanadianG00se]

That's where you're wrong.

They're already planning to hold it in the UK. SA and UAE were also successes.

You’re again confusing two things, they are going in those market to target Indians. If a local fan watches it, well and good (a bonus), if not its no biggie. IPL first need to tap Indian market completely. Try to achieve 500-600M viewers every game and then think of expanding. Try to bring IPL of free to air TV and make it watchable for every house in India.

 

[Hawkeye]

Baffled at the fuss being made over this.

IPL Final is a major cricketing event like it or not. Lords is the Home of Cricket. The owners want to keep people in the stadium as long as possible so they buy food and drink etc. Showing the IPL Final is an absolute no brainer, how is this even surprising.

No fuss.

You said it's a no brainer. Can you imagine final of the CPL, SLPL, or PSL shown at Lord's? That'll never happen.

Just pointing out, that it indeed is a no brainer, and other leagues are shadowed by its popularity+reach. And... in 10 years, where there to stop IPL from introducing clauses that restrict participation of their players in other leagues?

Injury prevention or political reasons?

I assume they showed the final so that the folks who bought tickets for day 4 don’t go home feeling like they didn’t get their money’s worth

I agree. But they won't do it to show the final of other leagues. This league is jut too big and growing.

 

[Hawkeye]

You’re again confusing two things, they are going in those market to target Indians. If a local fan watches it, well and good (a bonus), if not its no biggie. IPL first need to tap Indian market completely. Try to achieve 500-600M viewers every game and then think of expanding. Try to bring IPL of free to air TV and make it watchable for every house in India.

That strategy doesn't make sense, they don't need to and will not make it a must watch in every local household first. International expansion will happen at the same time, as that makes the most business sense.

 

[CanadianG00se]

That strategy doesn't make sense, they don't need to and will not make it a must watch in every local household first. International expansion will happen at the same time, as that makes the most business sense.

Do you think ECB would sit by and let IPL come and take over their market? Im sure they are already in discussion with counties, and will also propose ways to curb the IPL growth.

 

[Rana]

I assume they showed the final so that the folks who bought tickets for day 4 don’t go home feeling like they didn’t get their money’s worth

This is precisely it. The tickets on Day 4 would still be full price and the match was over in 16 overs I think. That's a bit harsh on the people who were looking for a full day out. But ECB should have asked their players to entertain some fans through autographs and pictures

 

[shane]

It's not about filling the ground.

It's about the principle. Why would Lord's show a franchise T20 league's final that's not even in the UK?

Who knows? Maybe they were streaming Sky Sports Cricket, which showed the IPL immediately after the Test. More importantly, who cares? Maybe if the PSL was on today then they would have shown that.

 

[Bubby]

Relax u are making mountain out of mole, off topic Watson was absolutely amazing and brute, I was cursing him for wasting 10 balls but fafs dismissal triggered something and he became a different beast altogether.

 

[hur rizvi]

To be honest we have our own league I sincerely don’t want our guys to play 2 months of meaningless T20 cricket. Better tour Zimbabwe or Ireland than play this much T20s

 

[giri26]

Well to be really frank this is not a big deal. The Test match was over and if ECB decide to show the IPL finals, so be it. IPL is very popular in the cricketing circles, even though lots of ppers deny the fact. I have heard about IPL from the Australians here multiple times over the last few weeks. Cricket Australia have been reporting and tweeting about the tournament. Except for BBL, IPL is probably the second most reported cricket league in Australia.

 

[Titan24]

It's not about filling the ground.

It's about the principle. Why would Lord's show a franchise T20 league's final that's not even in the UK?

Answer is pretty simple it happened as the sky network has rights for both Eng vs Pak and IPL, they would have simply requested the ground administration to have it on the screen. When a network is investing so much in the broadcasting rights its the least ECB or Lord admins could do if sky network asks them.

 

[Asch Ali]

Wasn’t there a lot of Indians there at Lord’s.
A lot of Sikhs, celebrities who love to watch Pakistan cricket.

 

[Slim]

Silly post from the OP. Its a matter between IPL and Lords administration. Why are we being forcefully involved?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Because it's shadowing the popularity of demand of other leagues, like the PSL. And, if IPL has total domination over its players, they can also ask them to not play other leagues.

Besides, the earning potential will get so enormous, active and popular cricketers will hardly think about risking injuries in other small leagues.




It's a baby as of now, but the growth rate is amazing. I was talking about future, like 5 to 10 years.

And yes, they can include that clause. In current political context, they can even just exclude PSL. Which is a real worry.

1. With so many leagues players will pick abd choose leagues. PCB already restricted the appearance of Pak Players other bosrfs will likely do so. So its any way happening.

2. IPL is already the most popular and richest board. Lords screening is just a proof.

3. At the end of the day players will decide where they want to play and how to maximise the earning.

 

[Itachi]

I think people are missing OPs point. It's not the apparent effect but rather the step that is taken.

IPL shouldn't have any place before or after a test match between Pakistan and England at England.

Call it to fill up the gap or to entertain the fans, there's a void which is IPL is filling up (atleast that's what the authority felt). It shows preference of a domestic league and its influence.

It's an IPL promotion which the other leagues probably won't have even if they did have the final yesterday.

It's a proceeding which other leagues probably won't want to have.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I think people are missing OPs point. It's not the apparent effect but rather the step that is taken.

IPL shouldn't have any place before or after a test match between Pakistan and England at England.

Call it to fill up the gap or to entertain the fans, there's a void which is IPL is filling up (atleast that's what the authority felt). It shows preference of a domestic league and its influence.

It's an IPL promotion which the other leagues probably won't have even if they did have the final yesterday.

It's a proceeding which other leagues probably won't want to have.

Well other leagues cant decide what will happen in Lords. People want to watch it and Lords showed it.

 

[Syed1]

In case you haven't noticed there are millions of Indians that live OUTSIDE of India and they would obviously be very interested in the IPL.

 

[Oligochaetes]

Had to have been a BCCI idea. ECB cannot show the game live without BCCI permission

 

[Kaptan]

What is more suprising is that the commentators during the test match were constantly talking about IPL. Like every half an hour there was atleast one mention of IPL. At one point they talked about IPL final for about 3-4 minutes.

 

[shane]

Out of curiosity, I wonder do many non-Indians actually enjoy watching the IPL? I mean, it is definitely popular in the sense that everyone knows it exists. But do people actually enjoy watching it?

Personally, I think it is a great money-making initiative but, from a cricketing point of view, I count down the days until it is over and we can get back to sanity. I just cannot bring myself to watch it.

 

[zn426]

Does anyone have an attendance count for each day of the Test? I've heard on here that the stadium was packed, yet knowing the count would help us.
PSL's not going anywhere. SA's Global T20 probably won't make it (it's too late in the game), so the real question is if the BPL will stick around or if the teams will eventually get absorbed into an IPL.
Asking India to have half the country watching the IPL might be a long term goal unless someone can tell me at least half the country has a TV already.

 

[Savage]

What is more suprising is that the commentators during the test match were constantly talking about IPL. Like every half an hour there was atleast one mention of IPL. At one point they talked about IPL final for about 3-4 minutes.

1 First Buttler Test selection after great IPL season

2 Then Sky Commentators regularly mentioning IPL during Test Match

3 And Now Lords showing IPL final

It seems these things are giving nightmare to some PPers here.

 

[Napa]

Out of curiosity, I wonder do many non-Indians actually enjoy watching the IPL? I mean, it is definitely popular in the sense that everyone knows it exists. But do people actually enjoy watching it?

I assume other nationalities root for their countrymen. Lot of Afghanis probably follow Rashid's exploits. A large number of Australian players are in the teams, so Aussie cricket fans may watch. The top NZ and SA players are there too.

 

[JaDed]

In case you haven't noticed there are millions of Indians that live OUTSIDE of India and they would obviously be very interested in the IPL.

Yes but why would they go to watch a done Pak vs England match?

 

[JaDed]

Its dealing with the devil,say what you want ever since Sky/Star has the rights of it I'm seeing its being promoted heavily in UK and so many sky articles,same league which they kept degrading for years now so many times I see them mentioned in positive light, one can do what they want but capitalist interests will always be the master whatever happens.

Showing at Lords is nothing with the league being bigger,just that Sky has the rights of it and its being promoted well,good for IPL but I don't buy into this "suddenly IPL is huge deal" anymore.

 

[Sidilicious]

If you cant beat em, join 'em

 

[Varun]

Thankfully the monstrosity is over...for the year at least.

 

[Napa]

Thankfully the monstrosity is over...for the year at least.

The monstrosity is over... for a year and forever...

Next year it will return as a galaxisity (a galaxy is bigger than a monster) or something like that

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Lol why should Pak worry?

At any point in the future IPL will maximise its popularity by appealing to the 170M population that is neighbouring its country. In the next 5 years you will see Pakistani players in the IPL I can assure you. Money talks

If there is a change in Indian government, this is absolutely a possibility.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If there is a change in Indian government, this is absolutely a possibility.

It was during the UPA govt's time that Pakistani players were banned from IPL. So a change in govt may not be useful.

 

[pakistani pride]

Baffled at the fuss being made over this.

IPL Final is a major cricketing event like it or not. Lords is the Home of Cricket. The owners want to keep people in the stadium as long as possible so they buy food and drink etc. Showing the IPL Final is an absolute no brainer, how is this even surprising.

Woh sab theak hai bhai / all that is fine but once the test was over almost nobody was there.

 

[daytrader]

Hmm this is a non issue - the test was over within a session and management probably thought to give the fans something extra to make their money worth it. I wouldn't be surprised if for some fans this was a first time experience of watching a t20 league game. The Lords crowd probably wouldn't tune in from home

 

[HitWicket]

Had to have been a BCCI idea. ECB cannot show the game live without BCCI permission

Sky (who have he rights to the IPL) have a TV screen on the nursery ground for games at Lord's

 

[HitWicket]

You said it's a no brainer. Can you imagine final of the CPL, SLPL, or PSL shown at Lord's? That'll never happen.

No, because none of them would clash with a major game at Lord's where the food court and Sky screen is already in place whilst also being televised on Sky.

 

[jusarrived]

IPL is a disruption which cricket needed . I understand as a Test cricket fan myself there is a flip side , but Test cricket on its own would not have lasted for too long .
The bottom line is the game has to grow beyond 6-7 test playing countries and for that to happen it has to generate money , like it or not money plays a big role here . You dont need to sell cricket to a Indian or Pakistani kid , but if you want to see kid from Brazil or china dreaming of becoming a professional cricketer some day unlikely it will be watching test cricket .
IPL has turned Rashid Khan not just into a star but also a millionare , something a Afg cricket at this point cannot give him . Sandeep Lamichhane may never play test cricket in his life even if he proves himself to be a test class bowler ,but untill Nepal cricket grows the likes of Sandeep can make their living playing IPL or other leagues . we need more stories like these and its not just IPL , but PSL , CPL , BBL etc all of them have a role to play and I wont be surprised in 10 years cricket will find a decent following in at least 25 countries .

 

[Mamoon]

The quicker we come to terms with reality, the better.

The IPL is a in a different league compared to other copycats around the world. It is international cricket in franchise form, and performing in IPL can shape legacies and make or break careers.

The term "mickey mouse cricket" can be used to describe PSL, BPL, BBL, CPL etc., but the IPL is a giant that is only going to get bigger and better, and I do not mind it because I think it will be good for the game in the long run.

The perception on PakPassion will obviously change once the ban on our players is lifted.

 

[Savak]

Never say new, but I forsee the PSL final being shown as well

 

[Savak]

For the record, I have not been bothered to see a single IPL match. I didn't even realize there was an IPL final going on. Some Bollywood films have done well inspite of an IPL final going on.

 

[Reddy]

IPL is the biggest and best cricket league in the world, it influences even the England Test team selections and England commentators were talking about IPL even during PAK-ENG test match.

No other cricket league will get screened at Lord's like this, time for many PP members to stop the useless hating and come to terms with reality.