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IPL teams ruling franchise cricket now, a boon or bane for the gentleman's game?

How do you see IPL teams take over of franchise leagues around the world?


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The increasing dominance of IPL teams in global cricket, particularly through their investments in various leagues, raises important questions about the implications for the sport as it allows them to shut the door for players from some countries while granting a headstart to others and most probably extending the politics of IPL in different franchise leagues around the world.

Current Landscape

Franchise Expansion: Several IPL franchise owners are expanding their reach by purchasing stakes in international leagues. For instance, the Sun Group, which owns Sunrisers Hyderabad, recently secured a stake in the Northern Superchargers in England's The Hundred tournament. This move follows similar acquisitions by other IPL franchises, such as RPSG Group and Reliance Industries, who have also invested in teams like Manchester Originals and Oval Invincibles respectively.

Financial Power: The financial backing of these franchises allows them to attract top talent and enhance competition within leagues. The IPL's lucrative model has set a precedent, making it an attractive investment opportunity for business conglomerates and media moguls. This trend is not limited to India; international leagues are increasingly influenced by IPL's financial model, which could lead to a more homogenized cricketing landscape.

Monopoly Concerns

Impact on Competition: The consolidation of power among a few wealthy franchise owners could lead to a monopoly-like situation where only a handful of teams dominate the sport. This might stifle competition and reduce opportunities for emerging teams and players, potentially leading to a less diverse cricketing environment.

Player Dynamics: With IPL franchises owning multiple teams across different leagues, there is a risk of prioritizing certain players over others based on business interests rather than sporting merit. This could affect player development and the overall integrity of the sport
 
At this point of time, the other countries should stand up against the greedy corporates and refuse the investment.

When you refuse the money, these corporations won't have any power over you and thus no monopoly will occur.
 
It's the Start of something bad, an end for limited over cricket down the years these greedy owners will talk up on Superleagues
 
This is why there needs to be two league windows where leagues are run for 3-4 months. Every player plays 1 league in a single window.

Have
 
World cricket has turned into a mess.

Petty politics. Overcommercialization.

Cricket stopped being a gentlemen's sport after 1990's.
 
Why are cricket boards selling their dignities for some cheap bucks?

Where is the self-respect?

South Africa is an established cricket team (they are the third oldest team in history). Why are their domestic T20 names named after Indian teams? Quite shameful.
 

RIP Northern Chargers​

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Sun Group buys entire stake of Yorkshire-based Northern Superchargers​


The Sun Group, owners of Sunrisers Hyderabad, won the bid to buy the entire stake of the Northern Superchargers in The Hundred. As per reports, the Chennai-based media conglomerate has paid just over £100m in the virtual auction for a 100% stake in the franchise. There were two other parties interested in the deal, but the Sun Group eventually outbid them.

They also became the third Indian Premier League (IPL) franchise to own a franchise in the hundred-ball tournament. Previously, Mumbai Indians owners, the Ambani family, negotiated a £60m price for a 49% stake in the Oval Invincibles and Lucknow Super Giants owner Sanjiv Goenka agreed to around £81m deal for 70% of Manchester Originals.

Apart from that, IT entrepreneur Sanjay Govil bought 49% stage of Welsh Fire for £40m and Birmingham Phoenix sold the same stage to the owners of Birmingham City football club, Knighthead Capitals for £40m.

A big money deal also happened between Lord's-based London Spirit and a Silicon Valley consortium led by Nikesh Arora. It is believed that the IT consortium bought a 49% share of the franchise for a mammoth £40m - over £100m more than the price of Welsh Fire and Birmingham Phoenix. The iconic Lords helped the franchise and the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) to sell it at a premium rate.

The two other franchises, Southern Brave and Trent Rockets are also expected to be sold sooner rather than later. As per BBC, Nottinghamshire are also set to sell a 49% stake in the Rockets when the sales resume before the weekend. An unnamed IPL franchise is set to be interested in the deal.

Source: India Today
 

RIP Northern Chargers​

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Sun Group buys entire stake of Yorkshire-based Northern Superchargers​


The Sun Group, owners of Sunrisers Hyderabad, won the bid to buy the entire stake of the Northern Superchargers in The Hundred. As per reports, the Chennai-based media conglomerate has paid just over £100m in the virtual auction for a 100% stake in the franchise. There were two other parties interested in the deal, but the Sun Group eventually outbid them.

They also became the third Indian Premier League (IPL) franchise to own a franchise in the hundred-ball tournament. Previously, Mumbai Indians owners, the Ambani family, negotiated a £60m price for a 49% stake in the Oval Invincibles and Lucknow Super Giants owner Sanjiv Goenka agreed to around £81m deal for 70% of Manchester Originals.

Apart from that, IT entrepreneur Sanjay Govil bought 49% stage of Welsh Fire for £40m and Birmingham Phoenix sold the same stage to the owners of Birmingham City football club, Knighthead Capitals for £40m.

A big money deal also happened between Lord's-based London Spirit and a Silicon Valley consortium led by Nikesh Arora. It is believed that the IT consortium bought a 49% share of the franchise for a mammoth £40m - over £100m more than the price of Welsh Fire and Birmingham Phoenix. The iconic Lords helped the franchise and the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) to sell it at a premium rate.

The two other franchises, Southern Brave and Trent Rockets are also expected to be sold sooner rather than later. As per BBC, Nottinghamshire are also set to sell a 49% stake in the Rockets when the sales resume before the weekend. An unnamed IPL franchise is set to be interested in the deal.

Source: India Today

This really defeats the purpose of The Hundred. The main purpose of this league was to promote cricket among young English fans.

There should be a clause that says name cannot be changed.
 
Disgraceful.

This really defeats the purpose of The Hundred. The main purpose of this league was to promote cricket among young English fans.

There should be a clause that says name cannot be changed.
Name changing is the worst part, the poor fate of SA league is before us. Literally no interest for non indians
 
Why are cricket boards selling their dignities for some cheap bucks?

Where is the self-respect?

South Africa is an established cricket team (they are the third oldest team in history). Why are their domestic T20 names named after Indian teams? Quite shameful.

Because dignity doesn't feed people.

Just take a look at your own country that has become a laughing stock around the cricketing world for not even being able to pay the players for featuring in that Bangla super league or whatever it's called.
 
It is a reality to accept.
Nobody can say today whether it is definitively good or definitively bad.

Ten years from now, I do not think Test cricket will exist and intl cricket will become limited to T20 world cups or similiar regional cups.
 
Name changing is the worst part, the poor fate of SA league is before us. Literally no interest for non indians

Yes.

These moves are counterproductive for those countries. Are they trying to promote cricket in their countries or are they trying to promote cricket in India?

BBL is doing well in this regard. They are not selling their dignity. Their teams are all owned by domestic people with domestic sounding names. They also cater to domestic fans.
 
At this point of time, the other countries should stand up against the greedy corporates and refuse the investment.

When you refuse the money, these corporations won't have any power over you and thus no monopoly will occur.
Easier said than done. Refusing money? We all saw what happened with the whole CT BCCI stand off. What could have been solved in five minutes by the ICC dragged along for months.

The ICC could have replaced Ind with SL but did not do it. Reason, $$$$$. In the real world no one refuses money!
 
Name changing is the worst part, the poor fate of SA league is before us. Literally no interest for non indians
I read that the SA t20 was a hit. With full houses. It has turned into a T20 franchise league success story.

I am sure there is some interest for the Indian audience. But that cannot be a big number. Also, I doubt that alone is the reason for the success.
 
First all the boards become self sufficient instead surviving on Indian money .

Bate badi badi but kam kuch karte hai ni h ICC ke liye lol

:kp
 
I can't believe Cricket South Africa is okay with this discrimination after how they themselves suffered from apartheid.

I have to call them gullible to allow this nonsense in their own league.

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EXPLAINED - Why Pakistan players are not a part of SA20 League?

The stakeholders don’t want any kind of controversy and hence they are not ready to welcome Pakistan players on board.


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Source: https://www.sportstiger.com/news/why-pakistan-players-are-not-a-part-of-sa20-league.
 
SUN GROUP IN HUNDRED LEAGUE

According to the cricbuzz Northern Supercharges franchise in Hundred League to Sun Group

Third Franchise for Sun Group: SRH in IPL, SEC in SA20 & now NSC in Hundred League.

:kp
 
Won't be long before they'll be infested too and not.many Pakistanis get in there already anyway as they're not equipped for Aussie conditions.

It was possible under Hasina but probably won't be possible under Dr. Yunus.

Even in Sri Lanka, they have wisened up. They haven't allowed India to dictate them lately.

I think BBL, CPL, BPL, and SLPL are safe for now.
 
It was possible under Hasina but probably won't be possible under Dr. Yunus.
Even in Sri Lanka, they have wisened up. They haven't allowed India to dictate them lately.

I think BBL, CPL, BPL, and SLPL are safe for now.
The quality of BPL where there are fixing accusations being ripe plus it's standards and same goes for the SLPL.

CPL is the other where they can feature but doubt with Indian owners there too
 
It was possible under Hasina but probably won't be possible under Dr. Yunus.

Even in Sri Lanka, they have wisened up. They haven't allowed India to dictate them lately.

I think BBL, CPL, BPL, and SLPL are safe for now.
The quality of BPL where there are fixing accusations being rife plus it's standards and same goes for the SLPL.

CPL is the other where they can feature but doubt with Indian owners there too now.
 
This is a big drawback for Pakistan players only... These IPL owned franchises will never allow Pak players hence making these league mini IPL type. SHame
 
Doesn't some Pak players play in Carribean league team owned by SRK and KKR franchise?
 
Lol...one good and one bad news for England cricket today
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Another addition to the Mumbai Indians family! 🙌

A new year, a new franchise, and the beginning of a new legacy, with MI franchise acquires a 49% stake in the Oval Invincibles, bringing the championship-winning men’s and women’s teams into the global MI family 🌍
 
Lol...one good and one bad news for England cricket today
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Another addition to the Mumbai Indians family! 🙌

A new year, a new franchise, and the beginning of a new legacy, with MI franchise acquires a 49% stake in the Oval Invincibles, bringing the championship-winning men’s and women’s teams into the global MI family 🌍

So Indians buying team is bad news for English Cricket?

Then its bad news in majority.

Only Birmingham and Trent Rockets have no Indian owner.

Why doesn't some pakistani puts his money into buying a team?
 
So Indians buying team is bad news for English Cricket?

Then its bad news in majority.

Only Birmingham and Trent Rockets have no Indian owner.

Why doesn't some pakistani puts his money into buying a team?
The Inds have paid millions for this dross. The more the merrier. Counties will wipe out their debt and get to spend money on hotels at grounds etc.
 
The Inds have paid millions for this dross. The more the merrier. Counties will wipe out their debt and get to spend money on hotels at grounds etc.

In some cases counties are selling out majority stake.

These owners now have influence over counties and ECB.
 
In some cases counties are selling out majority stake.

These owners now have influence over counties and ECB.
Great business by the ECB. I thought i was dumb by buying ICP and losing money, these guys have bought Sports teams on par with RL teams. Even The Late Allan Standford would be proud.
 
Great business by the ECB. I thought i was dumb by buying ICP and losing money, these guys have bought Sports teams on par with RL teams. Even The Late Allan Standford would be proud.

What is RL teams?

Most of the Indian owners own teams across multiple countries, giving them.leverage over multiple boards and Cricket in general.
 
Why are the governments not getting involved in these transactions, IPL owners have teams in every leagues which is some sort of a monopoly that these acquisitions should be approved by somebody in those governments as this is basically "antitrust".

I don't want to be supporting any team that happens to be owned by someone from IPL...
 
What is RL teams?

Most of the Indian owners own teams across multiple countries, giving them.leverage over multiple boards and Cricket in general.
This a very import point to take note of. Will have a huge impact on the cricket universe.
The IPL owners control a lot of the franchise leagues.
The IPL has control over the IPL owners.
The BCCI has control over the IPL.
 
Why are the governments not getting involved in these transactions, IPL owners have teams in every leagues which is some sort of a monopoly that these acquisitions should be approved by somebody in those governments as this is basically "antitrust".

I don't want to be supporting any team that happens to be owned by someone from IPL...
Why would the government get involved over private corporate matters? They should not. Never. Will set a bad precedent.

Let the free market determine things.
 
Why are the governments not getting involved in these transactions, IPL owners have teams in every leagues which is some sort of a monopoly that these acquisitions should be approved by somebody in those governments as this is basically "antitrust".

I don't want to be supporting any team that happens to be owned by someone from IPL...

Different leagues in different countries in different continents. Which government will get involved?

I doubt anyone cares who you want to support, everyone is looking at who wants to invest.
 
SA is relevant to more Indians because of Indian team names and their owners because more money is being invested now from the Indian owners... India has money, they can control things with money in world cricket and they are doing exactly that./
 
With Indian investors now owning stakes in The Hundred there’s a real chance that Pakistan players could be left out. Franchise owners have a big say in team selections and if they don’t want Pakistani players, there’s not much the ECB can do.
 
Thought England were our rivals in the Big 3, this is basically pumping money into their domestic system. :stokes

Why are our IPL owners so generous? I want to see us keep smashing them
 
Gould also stated the ECB will ensure opportunities for Pakistan's cricketers won't be limited by the IPL influence on the Hundred. Given the tensions between India and Pakistan, no player representing Pakistan has taken part in the IPL since the inaugural season in 2008.

The BCCI has never handed down an edict on the matter, but teams have operated accordingly, and not just in India. The first three seasons of the SA20, for instance, where all six teams are associated with IPL franchises, has not had any representative from Pakistan. There remains little if any Pakistan representation in IPL-owned teams at both the ILT20 and Major League Cricket (MLC). By contrast, the Hundred has relied heavily on Pakistani talent for overseas slots in a bid to uphold its "best versus best" tagline.

"We're aware of that in other regions," Gould said of the playing restrictions encountered by cricketers from Pakistan, "but that won't be happening here."

 
Gould also stated the ECB will ensure opportunities for Pakistan's cricketers won't be limited by the IPL influence on the Hundred. Given the tensions between India and Pakistan, no player representing Pakistan has taken part in the IPL since the inaugural season in 2008.

The BCCI has never handed down an edict on the matter, but teams have operated accordingly, and not just in India. The first three seasons of the SA20, for instance, where all six teams are associated with IPL franchises, has not had any representative from Pakistan. There remains little if any Pakistan representation in IPL-owned teams at both the ILT20 and Major League Cricket (MLC). By contrast, the Hundred has relied heavily on Pakistani talent for overseas slots in a bid to uphold its "best versus best" tagline.


"We're aware of that in other regions," Gould said of the playing restrictions encountered by cricketers from Pakistan, "but that won't be happening here."


Very good from Gould.

ECB should be sensible enough to not allow petty behavior in their league.
 
Inzamam-ul-Haq speaking during a TV show:

"Keep aside the Champions Trophy. Top players participate in IPL but Indian players don't participate in other leagues. Other boards should stop sending their players to IPL. If you (BCCI) don't release your players for leagues, then other boards should take a stance.”
 
Inzamam-ul-Haq speaking during a TV show:

"Keep aside the Champions Trophy. Top players participate in IPL but Indian players don't participate in other leagues. Other boards should stop sending their players to IPL. If you (BCCI) don't release your players for leagues, then other boards should take a stance.”
Well, I am sure a bunch of players including the ones that gave CT a miss are already at the IPL.

Team pre-season camps are already underway. Players are assembling for the season ahead.
 
IPL has truly taken over international cricket in the mind of the new gen Indian fan.

And since the Indian market runs cricket, this is a sign of the IPL becoming bigger and bigger.

I am someone who started watching in 2003 (2003 WC match vs Pak was my first match). Loved the 1-1 draw in 2003-04 in Aus and then twin ODI/test victories in Pak in 2004.

So I have always been an Indian fan. IPL I watch and enjoy but more with the eye of seeing new Indian talent.

For me India > IPL

But seeing the reactions of CSK fans/Tamils it seems for a lot of kids IPL > internationals

CSK and MI have similar records

Rohit has 5 IPLs, Dhoni has 5 IPLs

Internationally also their records are similar except for Rohit not having the ODI WC

Rohit - 1 T20 WC, 1 CT, 2 AC
Dhoni - 1 ODI WC, 1 T20 WC, 1 CT, 2 AC

A lot of CSK fans supported Aus in the 23 final so Rohit does not surpass Dhoni (and also Aus wear yellow). Similarly a lot were supporting Kiwis in the CT final cause a few of them have played for CSK and again they don't want Rohit to come close to Dhoni.

This is super interesting cause I have always seen these guys as Indian players, not MI/CSK players.

Even in Pakistan this has happened with Babar/Shaheen gangs and some "Qalandar Blood" etc stuff.
 
'Plank' & 'Ricks'

It is probably only a matter of time before cricket-playing nations outside of India and Pakistan are obliged to pick a side. In the years to come it may no longer suffice to be subservient, acquiescent and even obsequious to the financial power of India’s BCCI. Sooner rather than later it will become quite clear: ‘If you’re not with us, you’re against us.’

Cricket playing nations which are perceived to be a little too close to Pakistan and the PCB will see bilateral series from India reduced in game time and frequency, if not cancelled. The Indian government and the BCCI, which is effectively a department of it, have the financial clout to marginalise their cross-border foe.

When the PCB announced last week that it would continue and complete the remaining eight games in the PSL in Dubai, the Emirates Cricket Board discreetly revoked their invitation having initially agreed to be hosts – at a lavish fee. It was clear that the BCCI would not tolerate its neighbours completing their tournament while the IPL was in limbo. The Emirates Cricket Board was reminded of its ‘special’ relationship with the BCCI.

The Emirates Cricket Board is not alone. The England Cricket Board, the other ECB, is only a little less in the BCCI’s thrall. The Hundred has been desperate for ‘big name’ overseas signings for the last three years but, of the 50+ Pakistani cricketers to enter this season’s auction, precisely none were signed by any of the eight teams. Naturally there are no Pakistani players in the IPL or its subsidiary, the SA20. The more the IPL influence spreads - Caribbean Premier League and Major League Cricket in the USA – the more marginalised the Pakistan Cricket Board and its players will become.

Cricket South Africa, meanwhile, is closer in status to the smaller ECB as has become clear in the aftermath of the IPL’s extension from a May 25 final to one now on June 3. Even Cricket Australia said it would “fully support” their players’ decision on whether to return to India for the competition’s resumption.

Captain Pat Cummins has confirmed he will complete his duties as leader of the Sunrisers Hyderabad but they have been eliminated from Play-Off contention giving him plenty of time before the WTC Test match at Lord’s on June 11.

It is important to understand that “fully support” means financial as well as “agreeing with.” If an Australian player in the WTC squad opts not to return to the IPL they will be compensated for their national loyalty.

Cricket South Africa, however, do not have those means. Proteas coach, Shukri Conrad, said: “The initial agreement with the IPL/BCCI, with the final being on the 25th, is that the players would return home on the 26th. Nothing has changed from that perspective and that is the ongoing conversation. As it stands, we want our players back on the 26th.” Note “ongoing conversation” and “as it stands.”

CSA Director of Cricket, Enoch Nkwe, initially said: “It is an individual decision, obviously, to return or continue to play in the IPL. But one thing we’ve made clear, and we are finalising it with the IPL and the BCCI, is that we are sticking to our original plan when it comes to WTC preparations with May 26 being the latest for the Test guys to come back.”

A little later he ‘mellowed’. “Correction – the squad will resume training for the game on June 3rd. The matter is being discussed higher up than me. At ground level, we are focusing on preps for the WTC final.”

There are no less than eight members of the Proteas WTC squad involved in the IPL of whom five are playing for teams with a strong likelihood of being involved in the Play-Offs.

Ryan Rickelton and Corbin Bosch (Mumbai Indians), Wiaan Mulder (SunRisers Hyderabad), Marco Jansen (Punjab Kings), Aiden Markram (Lucknow Super Giants), Lungi Ngidi (Royal Challengers Bengaluru), Kagiso Rabada (Gujarat Titans), and Tristan Stubbs (Delhi Capitals) are the eight players who are in the squad for the WTC final.

They have, effectively, been left to make their own decisions with Conrad making it clear that his tenure as national all-formats coach would be characterised by loyalty to players who are loyal to their country – and the IPL franchises piling on the pressure for loyalty to the highest pay master. They are in a deeply invidious position, not to mention financially compromised.

The Proteas are/were scheduled to gather in London on May31 before playing Zimbabwe in a 4-day warm-up match in picturesque Arundel from June 3-6 before focussing on intra-squad training and middle practise. The likelihood is that those dates will have to be compromised, at least for a handful of the squad.

Take two examples: Marco Jansen, the most exciting young all-rounder in world cricket and an ever-present in the Punjab Kings XI who have never won the IPL or even reached the Play-Offs for over a decade. The pressure on him to stay for the Play-Offs can only be imagined. And Ryan Rickelton, establishing himself as an ever-present in the royal household of the Mumbai Indians at the age of 28 in his first IPL season. Could either of them really be expected to leave with an IPL final potentially three matches away?

For all the prestige of the WTC final at Lord’s, it is still just one match. Would any player seriously jeopardise R50m, R70m…even R100m in future earnings for the glamour of playing a one-off match in a format their country plays a dozen times every two years?

SOURCE: https://mannersoncricket.substack.com/p/plank-and-ricks?r=g7rsx&triedRedirect=true&s=08
 
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