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Iran confirms supreme leader Khamenei is dead after US, Israeli attacks [Update@ Post 563]

How will Iran react to the attack from Israel?

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IAJ said:
When so many Indians posting on X against the butcher of gujarat, surely daal mein kuch kala hai.
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Many Indians don't want to support israel by default no matter how heinous their crimes. Plenty of Indians want good relations with Iran I imagine.
 
ElRaja said:
dont think they were an accomplice, americans just took an opportunity, dont think indians would be complicit in making themselves look so weak.
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As I said in another thread, India may or may not have been an accomplice but our inability to even issue a proforma condemnation speaks volumes.

I think the most likely explanation is that we were informed that the ship would be sunk and there was nothing we could do about it. We probably requested the Americans to do it outside Indian waters to be able to maintain a fig leaf of deniability.
 
Red-Indian said:
As I said in another thread, India may or may not have been an accomplice but our inability to even issue a proforma condemnation speaks volumes.

I think the most likely explanation is that we were informed that the ship would be sunk and there was nothing we could do about it. We probably requested the Americans to do it outside Indian waters to be able to maintain a fig leaf of deniability.
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Hell, wouldn't accept weapons form US in 1962 to defend itself against China. Thats the path country has been set on.

Why jeopardize Indian interests to feel moral superiority? As you already pointed out, a much stronger nation China, with enormous economic interest in Iran is struggling to find a mic.
 
Red-Indian said:
As I said in another thread, India may or may not have been an accomplice but our inability to even issue a proforma condemnation speaks volumes.

I think the most likely explanation is that we were informed that the ship would be sunk and there was nothing we could do about it. We probably requested the Americans to do it outside Indian waters to be able to maintain a fig leaf of deniability.
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The Americans are going around projecting power, and they care not about anyone else and who they upset. I am pretty sure Indians are not happy about it but they dare not say anything. No sound minded country has a ministry of war, when they are not under attack from anyone, that in itself shows the mindset that exists in the current administration.

Sinking of this ship, is also a play on India to tell them that US is the big dog anywhere in the world and there is nothing the Indians can do about it. It's slightly more subtle gunboat diplomacy. Now they give you a "waiver" for 30 days to buy Russian oil. It's like they are taking control of what you can and cannot do.

Basically, Trump wants to be the king of kings.
 
IronShield said:
The Americans are going around projecting power, and they care not about anyone else and who they upset. I am pretty sure Indians are not happy about it but they dare not say anything. No sound minded country has a ministry of war, when they are not under attack from anyone, that in itself shows the mindset that exists in the current administration.

Sinking of this ship, is also a play on India to tell them that US is the big dog anywhere in the world and there is nothing the Indians can do about it. It's slightly more subtle gunboat diplomacy. Now they give you a "waiver" for 30 days to buy Russian oil. It's like they are taking control of what you can and cannot do.

Basically, Trump wants to be the king of kings.
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Yeah a pity. I suppose it is what it is. As I said, all of us upcoming powers - China, India maybe even Russia have been shown our limits and the extent of American power.
 
rpant_gabba said:
Hell, wouldn't accept weapons form US in 1962 to defend itself against China. Thats the path country has been set on.

Why jeopardize Indian interests to feel moral superiority? As you already pointed out, a much stronger nation China, with enormous economic interest in Iran is struggling to find a mic.
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I think it's a question of degree. This was a petty, spiteful attack by America. What harm could a small frigate thousands of kilometres away from the warfront have done? I doubt it was even carrying much live ammunition - after all it had travelled for a fleet exercise.

I'm not even asking for us to have protected it. After all, it was a warship and soldiers take their chances. Just a generic statement condemning the sinking would've sent a signal to Iran and the rest of the world that yes we're weak but we're not subservient.
 
I wonder how all of this stops.

The Iranian have so far remained steadfast.

The Arabs are already growing weary.

America cannot bomb forever.

Where does it end?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I wonder how all of this stops.

The Iranian have so far remained steadfast.

The Arabs are already growing weary.

America cannot bomb forever.

Where does it end?
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I said earlier on in this thread that for the Gulf arab nations this has to stop soon otherwise everything they have worked for will slowly get dismantled. Saudi, Qatar, UAE etc have been trying to place themselves as the business hub of the world, and they were succeeding. But for that they need safety and trust for global companies to locate there.

Iran has been backed into a corner, and the USA has been dragged into this for no benefit for their people. This is israel's war and that is why Starmer has been reluctant to join in. It benefits no one but the zionists.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I wonder how all of this stops.

The Iranian have so far remained steadfast.

The Arabs are already growing weary.

America cannot bomb forever.

Where does it end?
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It will stop when Israel says so, people still cant see it. Trump is just a pupped and USA will do so as their Master want it.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I said earlier on in this thread that for the Gulf arab nations this has to stop soon otherwise everything they have worked for will slowly get dismantled. Saudi, Qatar, UAE etc have been trying to place themselves as the business hub of the world, and they were succeeding. But for that they need safety and trust for global companies to locate there.

Iran has been backed into a corner, and the USA has been dragged into this for no benefit for their people. This is israel's war and that is why Starmer has been reluctant to join in. It benefits no one but the zionists.
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The gulf nations are done, this will take years and years to recover from.
 
pakistani pride said:
It will stop when Israel says so, people still cant see it. Trump is just a pupped and USA will do so as their Master want it.
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It will stop when Iran says. They are in the driving seat now. The US has lost the negotiating leverage they had before the war
 
Rana said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2029875497602097298
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Not sure how true as barely anything gets leaked out from the Zio side but apparently an iranin missile did hit Lincoln and it had to push back. They will never confess their humiliation just like how they made up Kuwait taking 3 of their jets down when it all so obviously was Iran. If US started reporting all the misery they are facing in this war, Trump ll lose far more support. His support is already tanking for fighting this war for Israel and not releasing the pedo Epstien list
 
Israel destroys Iranian military command bunker in Tehran, IDF claims


Israel says it has destroyed a major underground military bunker in central Tehran that was intended to serve as an emergency command centre for Iran’s leadership. The strike, carried out by dozens of Israeli fighter jets, marks one of the most dramatic developments in the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran.

According to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), around 50 Israeli fighter jets were involved in the operation targeting the bunker complex beneath Tehran. The IDF said the facility had been planned as a “secure emergency command centre” for Iran’s former supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

In a statement, the Israeli military claimed that Khamenei had already been “eliminated” before he could use the bunker, which it said stretched beneath multiple streets in the centre of the Iranian capital.

“The bunker spanned multiple streets in the centre of Tehran and continued to be used by senior Iranian regime officials,” the IDF said, describing it as a key command facility for Iran’s military leadership.

The development comes as the Middle East enters the seventh day of an expanding regional conflict, triggered by joint US-Israeli strikes on Iranian missile infrastructure, military bases and senior leadership. The strikes began early last weekend, with US President Donald Trump later confirming Washington’s involvement.

Iran responded with large-scale retaliatory attacks across the region. Missile and drone strikes were reported in several Gulf countries including the UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar and Oman, while Israel has continued air operations targeting Iranian-linked groups such as Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Inside Iran, residents of Tehran have described the past week as one of constant bombardment and fear. Some locals told international media that the latest wave of air strikes marked the “worst night” of the conflict so far, with explosions shaking buildings across the capital.

One resident said the blasts were so powerful that “the house was shaking for five minutes straight,” while another described the strikes as sounding “as if a dragon was making noises.”

The war has also begun to disrupt global trade and travel. Shipping giant Maersk has suspended some routes between the Middle East, Europe and Asia due to security risks, while governments are organising evacuation flights for thousands of citizens stranded in the region.

With air strikes intensifying and retaliation continuing across multiple fronts, analysts warn that the crisis could deepen further in the coming days.

BBC Live Updates
 
Red-Indian said:
I think it's a question of degree. This was a petty, spiteful attack by America. What harm could a small frigate thousands of kilometres away from the warfront have done? I doubt it was even carrying much live ammunition - after all it had travelled for a fleet exercise.

I'm not even asking for us to have protected it. After all, it was a warship and soldiers take their chances. Just a generic statement condemning the sinking would've sent a signal to Iran and the rest of the world that yes we're weak but we're not subservient.
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and immediately invited wrath a mad clown with unchecked power. to what end? You are way too qualified and life experience to think that it would help India in anyway in the long run. Its text book example of the brainwashing power of GNV. Say do things to gain moral high ground, while royally screwing you future.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I wonder how all of this stops.

The Iranian have so far remained steadfast.

The Arabs are already growing weary.

America cannot bomb forever.

Where does it end?
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No matter how much blood we Iranians have to shed but eventually we will come out on top and our enemies and their future generation of survivors will tremble with fear when the thought of Iran will come to their minds. We will be the end of them, Inshah'Allah.
 
Intense Israeli strikes hit Tehran and Beirut; Trump says Iran ground invasion would be a 'waste of time'


President Donald Trump told NBC News he would like Iran to have a "good leader," and has some names in mind for Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's replacement.

Live updates: Intense Israeli strikes hit Tehran and Beirut; Trump says Iran ground invasion would be a 'waste of time' https://share.google/PEsrN66Uj3AAOHSdg

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Iran and Lebanon is getting pounded by Israel
 
Rafale Nidhal Fan said:
expect some posters here who are celebrating this and supporting zionist to say "its just banter bro *insert emoji*"

this isn't banter its serious and it shows where their humanity level falls to
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It’s unfortunately the saddest thing to know that my tax dollars went for that.

Questioned human civilization and hypocrisy of humans, and still dabbling with it.
 
rpant_gabba said:
and immediately invited wrath a mad clown with unchecked power. to what end? You are way too qualified and life experience to think that it would help India in anyway in the long run. Its text book example of the brainwashing power of GNV. Say do things to gain moral high ground, while royally screwing you future.
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While the mad clown is definitely powerful, I think the current situation makes him seem powerful than he already. India has defied him plenty - refusing to concede on agricultural items, continuing to buy Russian oil, launching an attack on Pakistan without consulting the States.

A mild condemnation is not a major defiance that will provoke a 200% tariff. Remember long term that it's always useful to have an friend or two in the Muslim world - especially in the middle-east and especially one with the third largest oil reserves who's been a long term supplier. A gesture like this will be a signal to Iran that we can't help you now but we aren't actively against you. We'll do business again when we can.
 
Bhaijaan said:
No matter how much blood we Iranians have to shed but eventually we will come out on top and our enemies and their future generation of survivors will tremble with fear when the thought of Iran will come to their minds. We will be the end of them, Inshah'Allah.
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Hard to keep up, you become hindutva, hind-jew, hindu-muslim and now Santaniranian
 
Red-Indian said:
While the mad clown is definitely powerful, I think the current situation makes him seem powerful than he already. India has defied him plenty - refusing to concede on agricultural items, continuing to buy Russian oil, launching an attack on Pakistan without consulting the States.
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So, India took care business.
Red-Indian said:
A mild condemnation is not a major defiance that will provoke a 200% tariff. Remember long term that it's always useful to have an friend or two in the Muslim world
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Yo mean the Muslim world which is hosting US bases and encouraging the attack on Iran? sure.
Red-Indian said:
- especially in the middle-east and especially one with the third largest oil reserves who's been a long term supplier. A gesture like this will be a signal to Iran that we can't help you now but we aren't actively against you. We'll do business again when we can.
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Well, given the amount of trade between China and Iran and China's response to the current situation, it is more about what you bring to the table economically.

If Iran can't understand that token condemnation will do absolutely nothing, than its their problem.
 
@Red-Indian let me add this here, I don't recall much sympathy for Ukraine here when Russia was teeing of onthem. In fact there was glee.

Don't recall India condemning Russia's war on Ukraine and don't recall any threads talking about plight of Ukraine civilians.

Muslims don't give **** about anyone else. Not reason to put yourself in trouble for a muslim nation. India did that already in 1971 and paid an enormous price over years
 
Those who say that India is not that important should know that India is the largest democracy in the world and whoever India supports is in a morally stronger position in the war. That the power of india democracy.

:kp
 
BDfanforever said:
Why do you think previous US administration's never attacked Iran? They didn't want their bases in Middle East to come under fire. It's going to take a lot of money and manpower to rebuild all of these bases again.
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Where is the proof? Stop watching social media its floodes with chinese propoganda news....Trump now wants Iran to surrender unconditionally
 
Devadwal said:
Those who say that India is not that important should know that India is the largest democracy in the world and whoever India supports is in a morally stronger position in the war. That the power of india democracy.

:kp
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So assuming India is supporting israel, are you saying they are in the morally stronger position?
 
What will happen after investigation? Will the charge against Trump? I don't think so. .

He should be removed from Presidency immediately if they really want the accountability.

Trump is psycho. ..and some idiots or a USA client State recommended him for Noble Peace prize

:kp
 
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