Is Adil Rashid good enough to walk into the Pakistani team?

[Major]

Pakistan hasn't produce a great spinner in odis after Ajmal. Yasir shah hasn't bowl that well in odis and Shadab hasn't really made his mark.

Imad Waseem is just a modern day Hafeez.

However, Adil Rashid bowls some very good leg spin with googlies for England. Is he better than all of our spinners currently? Can he walk into our odi and t20 team?

 

[Mamoon]

Yes he is. He is better than show-off Shadab in all departments except fielding and acting.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

He'd be captain of our limited over sides tbh

 

[Rana]

Shadab Khan gets into every international side in the world in limited overs cricket. Adil has matured as a leggie but I would still invest in Shadab and back him to become better and better.

 

[ataullah]

Rashid is everything a pakistani leggie should be. Love his variations and his record in white ball cricket is second to none

 

[Cric_lover4487]

Yes he is. He is better than show-off Shadab in all departments except fielding and acting.

I am sorry, Shadab is a good fielder but he is not really among the best fielders around in world cricket. He just looks better because he plays for Pakistan.

 

[Mamoon]

I am sorry, Shadab is a good fielder but he is not really among the best fielders around in world cricket. He just looks better because he plays for Pakistan.

Yes his fielding is overrated as well, but he is definitely better than Rashid in this department.

 

[Rana]

Yes his fielding is overrated as well, but he is definitely better than Rashid in this department.

I’m sorry, how is his fielding overrated?

 

[Saj]

Easily better than anything Pakistan has at the moment.

He's a wicket-taker, someone who can turn a match on his own.

Love his variations.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Didn’t Rashid get smashed all over the place by Hafeez of all people? Please...

 

[Rana]

Batting: Shadab>Rashid
Fielding: Shadab> Rashid
Age/Fitness/longevity: Shadab>Rashid
Experience: Rashid>Shadab
Bowling in general: Rashid>Shadab

 

[shaz619]

The best leg spinner in the shorter forms without a doubt, his fielding is quiet tidy and organised to, the batting is solid as well. Forget Shadab Khan, Rashy is better then Shahid Afridi and about par with Saeed Ajmal, a Pakistani spinner would have been taken apart by Carey. Rashid higher cricketing IQ allows him to adjust his length, variation and pace at the very last moment which makes him one of the most dangerous LOI spinners in history, it is an insult to compare him with one hit wonders who think they are the second coming of Shane Warne.

Additionally, Adil Rashid is a World Champion spinner and a part of England's golden generation in the limited forms.

 

[Zaz]

Shadab isnt the finished article Hes easiy someone who can avge 30 with the bat and ball

Rashid may be better than him now but shadab has a very high ceiling and 10 plus years on him

 

[shaz619]

Easily better than anything Pakistan has at the moment.

He's a wicket-taker, someone who can turn a match on his own.

Love his variations.

Imagine you're the captain and you give the second last over to a leggie who had been taken for a few when the Aussies were swinging the bat with risk given the fear they had of the impact he would have later on; you would presume the Irishman must have had too many!!! that level of trust / faith just speaks volumes in itself, plus we were playing Australia of all teams. The composure Rashy showed was incredible, no Pakistani spinner would ever make the England Lions squad in the limited forms let alone a full strength side, Rashid is our trump card and more importantly a World Champion Spinner.

 

[Mamoon]

He is the perfect role-model for British Asian cricketers.

No sob stories, no annual interviews to the Telegraph and Guardian about how hard it has been to break into English cricket as an Asian, no talk of racism and discrimination.

Just pure hard work and talent. He has proved that if you perform you will be rewarded. It is always the average ones who cry about racism because they need to blame others for their own failures.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Imagine you're the captain and you give the second last over to a leggie who had been taken for a few when the Aussies were swinging the bat with risk given the fear they had of the impact he would have later on; you would presume the Irishman must have had too many!!! that level of trust / faith just speaks volumes in itself, plus we were playing Australia of all teams. The composure Rashy showed was incredible, no Pakistani spinner would ever make the England Lions squad in the limited forms let alone a full strength side, Rashid is our trump card and more importantly a World Champion Spinner.

Since when did you turn into an English fan? Weren't you from Pakistan? I swear you were supporting Pakistan in last year's WC.

 

[shaz619]

He is the perfect role-model for British Asian cricketers.

No sob stories, no annual interviews to the Telegraph and Guardian about how hard it has been to break into English cricket as an Asian, no talk of racism and discrimination.

Just pure hard work and talent. He has proved that if you perform you will be rewarded. It is always the average ones who cry about racism because they need to blame others for their own failures.

Both Rash and Mo have played a massive role in that regard and we will see the effects for generations to come, however regarding Rafiq I don't think he ever complained about a lack of opportunity; in England we have to take Racism very seriously and the old boy culture at Yorkshire needs to be investigated thoroughly

 

[shaz619]

Since when did you turn into an English fan? Weren't you from Pakistan? I swear you were supporting Pakistan in last year's WC.

I have a soft spot for them given my moms heritage and also for WI same reason but England has always been my team and I am a proud fan of this new side, now more then ever I feel everyone should support them from the UK, there is no reason not to, am so proud

 

[Hasan123]

Is this even a debate? He walks into our team. Brilliant spinner.

 

[Titan24]

He walks into every single LOI team in the world. He is arguably the best white ball spinner at the moment and has been a key component in Eng’s LOI success

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Not at all... being overrated on the back of short term memory. I’ll take Shadab over him any day

 

[BreadPakoda]

The best leg spinner in the shorter forms without a doubt, his fielding is quiet tidy and organised to, the batting is solid as well. Forget Shadab Khan, Rashy is better then Shahid Afridi and about par with Saeed Ajmal, a Pakistani spinner would have been taken apart by Carey. Rashid higher cricketing IQ allows him to adjust his length, variation and pace at the very last moment which makes him one of the most dangerous LOI spinners in history, it is an insult to compare him with one hit wonders who think they are the second coming of Shane Warne.

Additionally, Adil Rashid is a World Champion spinner and a part of England's golden generation in the limited forms.

Par with Ajmal? You got to be kidding. With an average of 31 vs Ajmal’s 22.

 

[Mamoon]

Par with Ajmal? You got to be kidding. With an average of 31 vs Ajmal’s 22.

Ajmal wouldn’t even average 40 with a clean action. A terrible spinner but a brilliant chucker.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Why do we always have threads about "would xyz walk into Pakistan's team"

Why is there always a need to compare when there isn't even a match.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Ajmal wouldn’t even average 40 with a clean action. A terrible spinner but a brilliant chucker.

Agree but I doubt that’s what the poster meant. I’m assuming he is comparing Rashid with the pre-clean action Ajmal.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Apparently Rashid can turn a game on its head but Shadab’s 2 wickets in 2 balls with a possible 3rd later in the same over Is completely forgotten - sorry, but he had the worst economy in that last T20 against Pakistan, going for 40 in 3 overs at an economy of 13.33 against supposedly a shambolic batting attack. I thought Pakistan’s batting was the worst in the world?

 

[Rana]

I recon Misbah and Younis khan even now would pick up 24 runs in an Adil Rashid over, not sure why Big 3 supporters are forcing him into the Pakistan side

 

[Savak]

Both Adil Rasheed and Zampa are improved leg spinners with great variety. Shadab Khan unfortunately has not been in great form with the ball for a long while, he can learn a great deal from Adil Rasheed, Adam Zampa, Imran Tahir when it comes to setting a batsman up, having a stock ball, pace variation and not being scared to use his googly from time to time

 

[Thunderbolt14]

What about the 2019 World Cup last year where Rashid went for 43 in 5 overs picking 0 wickets for an economy of 8.6, getting smashed around by Hafeez, while Shadab bowled out 63 in 10 overs at an economy of 6.3, taking the two wickets of Roy and Root?

I thought this is England side is the greatest ODI side of all time? According to all the posts in the threads popping up today? Most clutch aide ever, best limited overs batsmen ever? Then how does Rashid walk into a Pakistan team that is apparently so bad? Is Hafeez better than Roy and Root? Or is Rashid maybe a tad bit overhyped!

At the end of the day, you can’t please Pakistan fans. Rashid will be discarded by the same people the next time he has a game where he’s deposited around the park. Hell even Imad Wasim was more economical bowling to Bairstow and Morgan who are supposedly some of the greatest players to ever play white ball cricket than Rashid against Pakistan who are supposedly the worst ever batting chokers in existence!

 

[BreadPakoda]

Forget him walking into Pakistan’s side which one could still build a case for, he’s been termed as good as Ajmal on this very thread.

 

[Rana]

Adil Rashid is the best role model for British Asian cricketers...biggest joke I’ve read on this thread.

British Asians have every right to aspire to become Joe Root and Ben Stokes, they don’t need to look at an Asian as a role model, and they need to be acknowledged in comparison to those posh white players instead of pigeon holing them with a select few Asian players who happened to play for England or some county.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Golden generation of English cricketers...... lol

I will take the spinner performing against this golden generation rather than the spinner in the generation itself who can’t perform against “minnows” like Pakistan.

 

[Mamoon]

People wouldn’t like to hear it, but performances against small teams like Pakistan, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Bangladesh etc. do not hold much significance.

If you beat these sides and lose to India or Australia, no one would remember your wins. Similarly, if you lose to these sides and beat India or Australia, no one would remember your defeats.

Rashid always performance against Australia. He also played a key role in England’s biggest ODI series since their resurgence - the home series against India in 2018.

He was England’s leading wicket-taker, and produced an absolute peach in the decider to bowl Kohli who was looking set for another hundred.

That dismissal turned the game on its head and won England the series, cementing their status as the #1 ODI side in the world and overwhelming favorites for the World Cup in 2019.

As an English cricketer, these are the moments that you live. Performing against Australia and India, taking 3 wickets in a World Cup semifinal against Australia etc.

Who cares about performances against small and average teams like Pakistan. Rashid has Pakistani heritage so he probably should care at a personal level, but he is also part of a high performance environment where India and Australia are considered to be the two benchmarks that define your worth as a cricketer.

 

[Rana]

So now it’s ok to be poor against Pakistan but your true value is defined against India and Australia.

 

[Rana]

You are allowed to be poor against Pakistan....and you will also walk into the Pakistan side

 

[FreePalestine]

Batting: Shadab>Rashid
Fielding: Shadab> Rashid
Age/Fitness/longevity: Shadab>Rashid
Experience: Rashid>Shadab
Bowling in general: Rashid>Shadab

Correct sir. On current form, Rashid is the more valuable cricketer. Inshallah, Shadab will continue to improve. Better than Rashid would have been around his age, I imagine, by leaps and bounds.

 

[Mamoon]

Adil Rashid took the most wickets across the 5 ODIs and 1 T20I as England demolished Australia 6-0 in summer of 2018.

Prior to that, he was England’s leading wicker-taker in February 2018 as England smashed Australia 4-1 in Australia.

It was a hugely important series for England because many people were tipping England to receive a reality check because they thought their brand of cricket was not going to work outside England.

Also in 2018 as mentioned earlier, he was England’s leading wicket-taker in the series win over India.

He has been the leading wicket-taker in all of England’s major and important series wins over the last few years.

A fabulous performer.

 

[Mamoon]

His true worth is clear to the England setup. He is one of select few untouchables who are the first names on the sheet. They know how vital he is to their success against the top sides.

But Pakistani fans can dismiss him because he has been average against their average side.

Speaking of performances against Pakistan, he did pull the rug beneath our batsmen in the Abu Dhabi Test in 2015. Unfortunately for him and England, the sun couldn’t stay out for a few more minutes. He produced a game-changing spell.

 

[Rana]

The real question is, does Shadab Khan walk into the England set up with Adil Rashid and Moeen Ali around as they spin bowling options?

I think he will be preferred over Adil, and he will bat one below Moeen. England will most likely go for the dynamic and younger option in Shadab if they had the choice to do so.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

People wouldn’t like to hear it, but performances against small teams like Pakistan, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Bangladesh etc. do not hold much significance.

If you beat these sides and lose to India or Australia, no one would remember your wins. Similarly, if you lose to these sides and beat India or Australia, no one would remember your defeats.

Rashid always performance against Australia. He also played a key role in England’s biggest ODI series since their resurgence - the home series against India in 2018.

He was England’s leading wicket-taker, and produced an absolute peach in the decider to bowl Kohli who was looking set for another hundred.

That dismissal turned the game on its head and won England the series, cementing their status as the #1 ODI side in the world and overwhelming favorites for the World Cup in 2019.

As an English cricketer, these are the moments that you live. Performing against Australia and India, taking 3 wickets in a World Cup semifinal against Australia etc.

Who cares about performances against small and average teams like Pakistan. Rashid has Pakistani heritage so he probably should care at a personal level, but he is also part of a high performance environment where India and Australia are considered to be the two benchmarks that define your worth as a cricketer.

So essentially, performing against one team (Australia) is enough these days. Makes you a greater cricketer than Saeed Ajmal. Got it.

 

[Mamoon]

Shadab has been a joke against India. Indian batsmen don’t even see him as a proper bowler.

It was incredible how bad he was in excellent spin conditions in the UAE in the 2018 Asian Cup.

He was so rubbish in conditions where he should have tested the Indian lineup especially without Kohli.

So Rashid definitely walks into the Pakistan team if we are to slightly enhance our chances of beating India. He knows how to bowl to quality batsmen.

 

[Mamoon]

So essentially, performing against one team (Australia) is enough these days. Makes you a greater cricketer than Saeed Ajmal. Got it.

For the big 3 boards, performances against each other hold the greatest significance, and performances against each other overshadows everything else.

I can understand it is a difficult pill to swallow and hurts our pride and ego, but it is what it is.

If England comes to Pakistan and loses series, and then it goes to India and wins, the defeat in Pakistan will lose significance because if you win in India, performances in Pakistan/UAE or elsewhere in Asia don’t matter anymore.

It is the same for Pakistan. If we lose to Sri Lanka but then go onto beat India, we wouldn’t give a toss about the result against Sri Lanka.

 

[Mamoon]

The real question is, does Shadab Khan walk into the England set up with Adil Rashid and Moeen Ali around as they spin bowling options?

I think he will be preferred over Adil, and he will bat one below Moeen. England will most likely go for the dynamic and younger option in Shadab if they had the choice to do so.

Rashid is England’s main asset against Indian and Australian batsmen. He will never dropped for someone who is viewed as a part-timer by Indian batsmen.

 

[Rana]

Rashid is England’s main asset against Indian and Australian batsmen. He will never dropped for someone who is viewed as a part-timer by Indian batsmen.

Adil is viewed as a proper bowler by Indians? Remind me what IPL side does he represent or will represent?

 

[MMHS]

Adil’s batting is seriously underrated. He bats for England hence hardly get chance to bat but whenever he got to show his batting skills, he has often delivered. He has 10 FC hundreds and an average of 32; which often is ignored for his bowling. I think, bar India who has Chahal or Tthe lefti leggi, he’ll get into every ODI team including Afghanistan (as second leggi)

 

[Rana]

The Shane Warne of the modern era Adil Rashid is viewed as a proper bowler by the Indians who certify him.

Cant wait to see this great bowler demonstrating his great skill in this year's IPL, as he has been verified and acknowledged by the Great Indian batsmen.

 

[Mesozoic]

Of course he would. Does Pakistan have better options than him ? I don't think so.

Misbah will pick him in a heartbeat over Shadab or Imad.

 

[Rana]

Of course he would. Does Pakistan have better options than him ? I don't think so.

Misbah will pick him in a heartbeat over Shadab or Imad.

It was Misbah who drafted Shadab into the IU side at 16-17 years of age. You don’t talk for us. How about you pick him over Yuzwendra Chawwal

 

[topspin]

He is the perfect role-model for British Asian cricketers.

No sob stories, no annual interviews to the Telegraph and Guardian about how hard it has been to break into English cricket as an Asian, no talk of racism and discrimination.

Just pure hard work and talent. He has proved that if you perform you will be rewarded. It is always the average ones who cry about racism because they need to blame others for their own failures.

Maybe it will come out once he's retired.

I agree Rashid is a good role model for British Asian cricketers and I'm glad you've finally found good words to say for a British Asian cricketer.

 

[topspin]

The Shane Warne of the modern era Adil Rashid is viewed as a proper bowler by the Indians who certify him.

Cant wait to see this great bowler demonstrating his great skill in this year's IPL, as he has been verified and acknowledged by the Great Indian batsmen.

Is Adil Rashid playing IPL this year?

 

[Rana]

Is Adil Rashid playing IPL this year?

I guess he should be as he is seen as a proper bowler by Indians. But Shadab Khan isn’t seen as a proper human being let alone bowler so he is not playing of course

 

[topspin]

I guess he should be as he is seen as a proper bowler by Indians. But Shadab Khan isn’t seen as a proper human being let alone bowler so he is not playing of course

Oh my bad, I can never tell if you're being sarcastic or serious lol

 

[Rana]

Oh my bad, I can never tell if you're being sarcastic or serious lol

Lol

There are people here who you have to use the Tairri ungli approach to. They deserve this humiliation

 

[Pakhs]

He can play ahead of Shadab as he can bat too and slightly better bowler than Shadab. However if Pakistan can nick a player from England they would be asking for someone like butler or Stokes instead.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

He is obviously better than Shadab and will get into any side except india.His overall stats are quite average and his performance in world cup was abysmal(averaged 48 at 5.8)so he is no champion.

Yuzvendra chahal is obviously better.

 

[shaz619]

The Shane Warne of the modern era Adil Rashid is viewed as a proper bowler by the Indians who certify him.

Cant wait to see this great bowler demonstrating his great skill in this year's IPL, as he has been verified and acknowledged by the Great Indian batsmen.

Saying Shadab is better then Rashid is like saying Tajiri is better then Brock Lesnar

 

[Rana]

Saying Shadab is better then Rashid is like saying Tajiri is better then Brock Lesnar

Your getting the analogy wrong. Not once did I say Shadab is a “better bowler” than Rashid.

Since when did Rashid become the Brock Lesnar of leg spinners? More like the Eddie Guerrero enjoying a late push in the twilight of his career whilst being a mid carder for the most part of it.

 

[Loralai]

Yes. Our ODI team is terrible. Adil Rashid would walk into our ODI team as a batsman alone.

 

[shaz619]

T20 and ODI's are two distinct formats to the folk going on about the IPL, a guy who was part of new England's World Championship winning campaign is being berated due to narrow minded folk and a serious lack of education. And as it stands, I've not seen him bowl any better more recently; in fact he should be in the Test squad to ahead of Bess / considered where two spin options are needed. However it is also worth highlighting that England tours have often clashed with the IPL and quiet simply you take a look at T20 rankings there are so many options for teams when it comes to spin and also in India to the extent that the foreign slot predominately is taken up by seamers, all rounders etc Sodhi was no.1 at one point to and called up as a replacement. In the end this is pyjama cricket and ultimately none of those pure T20 specialists will ever contribute to a world championship winning campaign, e.g the most prestigious trophy in cricket.

 

[shaz619]

Your getting the analogy wrong. Not once did I say Shadab is a “better bowler” than Rashid.

Since when did Rashid become the Brock Lesnar of leg spinners? More like the Eddie Guerrero enjoying a late push in the twilight of his career whilst being a mid carder for the most part of it.

Well so the point you are making is that you like Shadab and we should like him to but because Adil Rashid is doing well, you envy him thanks for your input

 

[Rana]

T20 and ODI's are two distinct formats to the folk going on about the IPL, a guy who was part of new England's World Championship winning campaign is being berated due to narrow minded folk and a serious lack of education. And as it stands, I've not seen him bowl any better more recently; in fact he should be in the Test squad to ahead of Bess / considered where two spin options are needed. However it is also worth highlighting that England tours have often clashed with the IPL and quiet simply you take a look at T20 rankings there are so many options for teams when it comes to spin and also in India to the extent that the foreign slot predominately is taken up by seamers, all rounders etc Sodhi was no.1 at one point to and called up as a replacement. In the end this is pyjama cricket and ultimately none of those pure T20 specialists will ever contribute to a world championship winning campaign, e.g the most prestigious trophy in cricket.

You are right, the point isn’t even about him getting an IPL contract or not. The point was to debunk a bloke who claimed Shadab is not seen as a bowler by Indians but Rashid is, I mean what a joke? Surely he would be picked as this great bowler even as a bench warmer or a replacement in the IPL if that’s the case? However you can bet your house on it that Shadab will be a guaranteed pick in any world league barring political interference due to him being a more complete package.

Rashid has not shown the performances Shadab showed with the bat in T20 domestics as compared to Shadab in T20s. And Rashid is 11 years older and far more experienced at this level, what’s the reason why his county have never trusted him to bat up the order the way Shadab was batting in the top 5 in last years PSL, and actually scoring decent runs?

Smack talk like the rock doesn’t always work when you actually break it down and analyse

 

[Rana]

Well so the point you are making is that you like Shadab and we should like him to but because Adil Rashid is doing well, you envy him thanks for your input

No, the point I’m making is I would stick to Shadab and let him grow even if we have the choice of a matured up Rashid now.

 

[shaz619]

You are right, the point isn’t even about him getting an IPL contract or not. The point was to debunk a bloke who claimed Shadab is not seen as a bowler by Indians but Rashid is, I mean what a joke? Surely he would be picked as this great bowler even as a bench warmer or a replacement in the IPL if that’s the case? However you can bet your house on it that Shadab will be a guaranteed pick in any world league barring political interference due to him being a more complete package.

Rashid has not shown the performances Shadab showed with the bat in T20 domestics as compared to Shadab in T20s. And Rashid is 11 years older and far more experienced at this level, what’s the reason why his county have never trusted him to bat up the order the way Shadab was batting in the top 5 in last years PSL, and actually scoring decent runs?

Smack talk like the rock doesn’t always work when you actually break it down and analyse

He may have meant that in the sense that T20 cricket isn't serious cricket, hence why Rashid would be taken a lot more seriously compared to Shadab in the serious formats, his recent championship winning performances and influence in crunch situations should highlight that. But I still value the T20 World Cup tournament.

If we are strictly talking T20 then sure overall Shadab has probably done better in that format though, however based on recent form I'd take Rashid personally right now, Shadab has fallen off a bit to

 

[shaz619]

No, the point I’m making is I would stick to Shadab and let him grow even if we have the choice of a matured up Rashid now.

I'd love to see him improve, am a massive fan of leg spinners; but if there was a bowler like Rashid who you know still has a couple of major ICC tournaments in him I'd still prefer him but then go with one or the other based on form prior to T20 World Cup but he'd have the edge in that format perhaps. But yes he has the chance to evolve in the coming years, this is the hardest part when Batsman have figured you out, what now? his googly is too predictable and the leg spinner doesn't turn a lot, he needs to work harder on his round arm action because people are now playing him like an off spinner, when you can bowl from the back of the hand even when you don't know what you're doing, the unpredictability of the variation is there providing you can outfox batsman in other ways

 

[Mesozoic]

It was Misbah who drafted Shadab into the IU side at 16-17 years of age.

So? Does that make him irreplaceable ?

You don’t talk for us. How about you pick him over Yuzwendra Chawwal

I don't know what "us" you're referring to here. I'm not talking for anyone just stating my opinion. Easiest thing is to ignore if you don't like someone's opinion.

Yes I would pick Rashid over "Chahal", whom you were too triggered to even spell correctly. Thanks.

 

[Rana]

So? Does that make him irreplaceable ?



I don't know what "us" you're referring to here. I'm not talking for anyone just stating my opinion. Easiest thing is to ignore if you don't like someone's opinion.

Yes I would pick Rashid over "Chahal", whom you were too triggered to even spell correctly. Thanks.

My autocorrect would spell ‘Chahal’ correctly if i want it to.

 

[shaz619]

The thing about Rashid which is overlooked a bit is that he played over 150 FC games with him playing a lead role for Yorkshire's red ball pursuits as their spinner, England scouted him pretty early and kept him around the U-19 England squad, peer support helped with someone like Jason Gillespi who rated him highly with heavy potential not just as a spinner but as an all rounder, you can see from an early stage he was developed very carefully and with all his experience at the FC level and with England's younger squads, he would then make the transition as a white ball specialist; this is why he is so versatile, his leg spinner is as good as his googly as an example and the investment in him was bound to pay off ultimately. You look at someone like Babar Azam and he was sort of developed in a similar fashion and in the development squads from an early stage / scouted by the PCB, I don't think Shadab has been developed in the same way or played much FC cricket ? he has a lot of hard work to do

 

[shariqnoor]

Forget Adil Rashid, right now Fawad Ahmed who played for Australia is miles better than any spinner Pakistan has in its setup. Pakistan is going to play 2023 World Cup in India and the T20 World Cup next year with spinners like Shadab and Imad. God help them.

 

[Bhaijaan]

He's a very good ODO bowler. Any team would love to have him right now.

Leg spin bowling at its peak with Rashid, Tahir, Yasir, Chahal, Zampa

 

[PakPremi]

Why do Pak need him when every time the two teams meet, Pak spinners out perform him.

 

[topspin]

It’s disrespectful to Rashid to come up with this question. He’s a world class ODI spinner. Rashid is a far better leggie and given how substandard Pakistan’s batting is, I’m sure he’s good enough to bat somewhere in the top 6 for the side as well.

 

[Rana]

Why do Pak need him when every time the two teams meet, Pak spinners out perform him.

He’s been a failure in the UAE. Well below the class and guile of Yasir Shah, Zulfiqar Babar, Saeed Ajmal, Abdul Rehman and even Bilal Asif in those conditions. All the guys mentioned (besides Ajmal) have been quite poor in ODIs and T20i but this is because Pakistani batting isn’t as heavy loaded as the English batting has been for quite some time.

When you bowl spin for a team that has guys who will dare to chase down 500 if needed, you will feel far more confident to bowl with freedom. And then you have a captain like Morgan who couldn’t care less if you go for 90 in 3 overs, this has a lot to do with why Rashid who although isn’t as naturally gifted as many of the Pakistani Test spinners still has been bowling brilliantly for England.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Bump - no.

 

[Rana]

Bump - no.

It doesn’t suit big 3 narrative to bump

 

[Thunderbolt14]

It doesn’t suit big 3 narrative to bump

Wondering where everyone is now.

 

[Hasan123]

Bump - no.

1 bad game means he isn't good enough?

 

[Rana]

Wondering where everyone is now.

He’s been bowling trash throughout the summer at 6-7 runs per over

 

[Thunderbolt14]

1 bad game means he isn't good enough?

Same applies to the people in the Pakistan team that apparently Rashid will replace. One bad game and knives are out, wolves hunting.

Given the body of work, Rashid just isn’t good enough.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

He’s been bowling trash throughout the summer at 6-7 runs per over

Hafeez was schooling him that says everything we need to know

 

[Hasan123]

Same applies to the people in the Pakistan team that apparently Rashid will replace. One bad game and knives are out, wolves hunting.

Given the body of work, Rashid just isn’t good enough.

Shadab Khan is our main spinner and your mocking Rashid LOL.

Rashid is leagues above Shadab.