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This was always on the cards post 2009. But walking on the street, I really feel that cricket in Pakistan has diminished or you can say that has lost intensity. Its not about home players not playing in front. Its not about players not performing. People have just started to take cricket as another game. The number of kids playing cricket in steets and pretending to copy the actions of their stars is reduced much. There are very little intense matches left where one can tune their skills before entering into the domestic setup. Its not like its dead. But the intensity is way way less. Here, no body cared about looking at World XI scorecards. Infact I saw many people playing football at that time. Previously, people used to paste stickers of their stars in their room or workplaces, they laugh at them now. Empty seats in Lahore was not due to poor pricing or dirty politics. People of Pakistan used to play much for seeing games. They used to climb things just to have a peek at stadium. Now very less people care about being passionate in stadium.

Do you admit this? Its just a matter of time that we stop having superstars in the team. We are probably among last few generations to care about that. Only because we have touched the generations who were cricket crazy.
 
Kids are more concerned about getting most likes on their profile picture on Facebook or Twitter these days in Pakistan. They use social websites but actually, they don't like socializing.

Parents too have a role in it. Most of them want their kids to be Engineer or Doctor. In their view, there is no scope of sports for their kids.

Society too have some role in it. Boys in Pakistan, now a days, are too concerned about their skin color. Because many people don't like dark complexion in Pakistan. So, that is why boys try to stay in their home even during summer vacations.
 
Kids are more concerned about getting most likes on their profile picture on Facebook or Twitter these days in Pakistan. They use social websites but actually, they don't like socializing.

Parents too have a role in it. Most of them want their kids to be Engineer or Doctor. In their view, there is no scope of sports for their kids.

Society too have some role in it. Boys in Pakistan, now a days, are too concerned about their skin color. Because many people don't like dark complexion in Pakistan. So, that is why boys try to stay in their home even during summer vacations.


Guys usually dont care about likes much, its the girls. You'll see so many girls on instagram claiming themselves to be fashion bloggers having thousands followers calling it a success. Guys are usually worried about having a job and then getting a bigger one (or business).

Parents always wanted their kids to be that, it should be easier to take sports as career these days.

I dont think many guys are concered about skin color. Its money instead. Most of the girls that I have met have admitted or hinted prefering someone with strong financial back. Maybe low pay of local games can be a factor but even the small kids are not that interested these days.
 
Abscence of super stars is to blame

They had Afridi, they had Misbah. They do got Hassan Ali now Fakhar Zaman in banners all over Pakistan. Yet no one cares. Football players visit for a charity game created way more buzz than World XI cricket games. Its just that people find it too boring now.
 
Misbah as a super star :))

I say that as his fan but he had nowhere near the appeal needed for a superstar.
 
To be honest I think this has to do with not being "paindo" because this year when I went to Pakistan I could see more people playing Football then Cricket. I've heard mostly people in KPK play Cricket and it's not really common in other places. And people do this because they want to do what foreigners do now aparently. And the funny thing is that where I live in Canada I can see more people playing Cricket here.
 
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To be honest I think this has to do with not being "paindo" because this year when I went to Pakistan I could see more people playing Football then Cricket. I've heard mostly people in KPK play Cricket and it's not really common in other places. And people do this because they want to do what foreigners do now aparently. And the funny thing is that where I live in Canada I can see more people playing Cricket here.

:facepalm: ~ How long was your trip ? which parts of Pakistan did you visit ? how many times did you come across people playing anything for that matter?......
 
Well, I just recently came back from a trip to Lahore and parts of Punjab and I can tell you that cricket is still the #1 sport there. There are people getting up early early in the morning at like 5-6 AM with their friends just to play cricket in empty parts of land and grounds. Obviously when the sun's beating down in the afternoon, most people tend to stay at home but they're back out in the evening till the sun sets.
 
How? We just won the CT 17. Yes I know it is beaten to death by now, but clearly you saw the jubilation and festivities that ensued.
 
We now have social media, netflix and video games (ps4, xbox 1 etc). Sports might be popular as a physical activity but as entertainment media it has shrunk a lot.

Virat Kohli might be famous in India but no young generation fan will idolize him. Idolizing superstars has already died. Not just for cricket but for movies too. Internet has exposed all the saints. Nobody is perfect and nobody will receive unconditional love and adulation anymore.
 
Too much coverage is paradoxically causing fan fatigue
 
There are so many things to follow.

1) Endless Content (Movies, Music, Books)
2) Endless Live Events (Concerts, Festivals, Sports)
3) Endless Sports (There is something going on every day!)
4) Internet/Mobile Devices (Easy Access To An Incredible Amount of Content)

Now let's imagine someone looks past all of this and is a die-hard cricket fan.

Even then, interest fades.

There is cricket going on at all times of the year. Someone is always playing. You're not going to miss out if you skip a few series here and there.

In the past, if you missed a series, you probably wouldn't see the team play for 3-4 months!

Now, they're already onto the next series in 2 weeks. PAK played the World XI and is already headed to face off against SL in the same month.
 
[MENTION=8597]kingusama92[/MENTION] Not just that, now people have the option to replay matches they have missed on youtube or other legal streaming sites. Anyone can instantly check team scores on their smartphone app. People have far too many options now, there's no urgency for anything. Also with internet people are also becoming aware of other foreign sports (I know many Indians who have come to like UFC).
 
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Any data to back this up or is this your mann ki baat?

There is actually plenty of data to back this up.

1) empty seats
2) lowering of TVR especially in West Indies/ SA.
3) i can actually see people around me not so much interested.
 
[MENTION=8597]kingusama92[/MENTION] Not just that, now people have the option to replay matches they have missed on youtube or other legal streaming sites. Anyone can instantly check team scores on their smartphone app. People have far too many options now, there's no urgency for anything. Also with internet people are also becoming aware of other foreign sports (I know many Indians who have come to like UFC).

LOL and yet still there are some Test Fanatics who think that their beloved format is as popular as it was in the best and will always be in the future.
 
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:facepalm: ~ How long was your trip ? which parts of Pakistan did you visit ? how many times did you come across people playing anything for that matter?......

My trip to Pakistan was 3 weeks, I went to Islamabad, Karachi, and Lahore and I only came across people playing gully cricket thrice. But I did see many people playing club cricket in grounds.
 
We now have social media, netflix and video games (ps4, xbox 1 etc). Sports might be popular as a physical activity but as entertainment media it has shrunk a lot.

Virat Kohli might be famous in India but no young generation fan will idolize him. Idolizing superstars has already died. Not just for cricket but for movies too. Internet has exposed all the saints. Nobody is perfect and nobody will receive unconditional love and adulation anymore.

That's a very interesting point. And very true.
 
I'm not sure about this.

I think back to the mid 90s when there were satellite dishes and cheap jugaad alternatives for foreign channels. There were also video game consoles and arcades, hobbies such as stamp/coin collecting etc, PCs, and general activities open to middle class kids back in the late early 90s.

On TVs which everyone watched: There was a jump from PTV 1-2, and STN to several channels with programming from UK/US/IND. This was probably the biggest shift in how most people spent their time. Then were 24/7 cartoon channels.

The jump forward from the late 80s to the 90s was massive.

Maybe interest in cricket is fading, and good research could say more on the topic.

However, on the face of it, I'm not immediately convinced that social media and smartphones means kid won't play cricket.

After all, more than some of them want to put up photos on Instagram to brag about physical activity. :yk2
 
With my relatives it has faded, as too many of them are more interested in doing nothing, not studying, sitting on their mobile phones all day, watching dvds and expecting handouts from others.
 
[MENTION=8597]kingusama92[/MENTION] Not just that, now people have the option to replay matches they have missed on youtube or other legal streaming sites. Anyone can instantly check team scores on their smartphone app. People have far too many options now, there's no urgency for anything. Also with internet people are also becoming aware of other foreign sports (I know many Indians who have come to like UFC).

Top point!

It's definitely easier to watch replays/highlights online for the average working person.
 
Cricket around the world is fading.

That is another reality, thanks to money-minded greed of few countries. ICC forgot that along that way that there job is to promote the game NOT to earn more money, its a cricket council not a business.


To be honest I think this has to do with not being "paindo" because this year when I went to Pakistan I could see more people playing Football then Cricket. I've heard mostly people in KPK play Cricket and it's not really common in other places. And people do this because they want to do what foreigners do now aparently. And the funny thing is that where I live in Canada I can see more people playing Cricket here.

This is true, after the rise of electronic and social media, more and more people find football and other sports played in west as more trendy. This is also contributing in the fall of cricket.

:facepalm: ~ How long was your trip ? which parts of Pakistan did you visit ? how many times did you come across people playing anything for that matter?......

I dont know about him but I live in Pakistan and I have been visiting such grounds for ages.

Any data to back this up or is this your mann ki baat?

Not much, but apart from observations of various cities, we have organized cricket events in universities. We were hardly able to find 20-25 teams for cricket while futsal (lighter football) had 80+ teams every single time and even more used to beg for entry.

Well, I just recently came back from a trip to Lahore and parts of Punjab and I can tell you that cricket is still the #1 sport there. There are people getting up early early in the morning at like 5-6 AM with their friends just to play cricket in empty parts of land and grounds. Obviously when the sun's beating down in the afternoon, most people tend to stay at home but they're back out in the evening till the sun sets.

You must have seen very few of the people. Its not dead at all, but its greatly diminished. Punjab's core will show this soon.

How? We just won the CT 17. Yes I know it is beaten to death by now, but clearly you saw the jubilation and festivities that ensued.

Apart from Sarfraz Welcome, there was hardly any celebration like 1992. Infact Pakistani people have celebrated much more in 1999 for reaching finals only. Couple of groups doing crazy thing is not nationwide celebration.

We now have social media, netflix and video games (ps4, xbox 1 etc). Sports might be popular as a physical activity but as entertainment media it has shrunk a lot.

Virat Kohli might be famous in India but no young generation fan will idolize him. Idolizing superstars has already died. Not just for cricket but for movies too. Internet has exposed all the saints. Nobody is perfect and nobody will receive unconditional love and adulation anymore.

True. It has reduced the desire to follow sport as a super-pleasing thing. But India is still going large at cricket. Kohli is there in the minds of every Indian much like Tendulkar, there's another thing that flat innings are not giving people much to remember of him.

Too much coverage is paradoxically causing fan fatigue

Pakistan hardly had home games, most of the games were shown on TV and are played inside almost dead UAE grounds.

There are so many things to follow.

1) Endless Content (Movies, Music, Books)
2) Endless Live Events (Concerts, Festivals, Sports)
3) Endless Sports (There is something going on every day!)
4) Internet/Mobile Devices (Easy Access To An Incredible Amount of Content)

Now let's imagine someone looks past all of this and is a die-hard cricket fan.

Even then, interest fades.

There is cricket going on at all times of the year. Someone is always playing. You're not going to miss out if you skip a few series here and there.

In the past, if you missed a series, you probably wouldn't see the team play for 3-4 months!

Now, they're already onto the next series in 2 weeks. PAK played the World XI and is already headed to face off against SL in the same month.

Every team's fans have to face the same dilemma, this can't be the reason of Pakistan's fans alone.

[MENTION=8597]kingusama92[/MENTION] Not just that, now people have the option to replay matches they have missed on youtube or other legal streaming sites. Anyone can instantly check team scores on their smartphone app. People have far too many options now, there's no urgency for anything. Also with internet people are also becoming aware of other foreign sports (I know many Indians who have come to like UFC).

But there's more urgency to watch football games despite having same options available for football.

There is actually plenty of data to back this up.

1) empty seats
2) lowering of TVR especially in West Indies/ SA.
3) i can actually see people around me not so much interested.

Same here, I cant see many people interested except those few who are still stuck in past.
 
[MENTION=145660]maxamax[/MENTION] India hasn't seen decline because cricket is still profitable investment for BCCI and IPL teams. However teams that have been hurt financially or other reasons (West Indies, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe) has seen fan interests decline. There's also a key point that cricket isn't a global sport like soccer, the competition is limited and some people get tired of seeing the same teams play again and again. Also cricket is very much fragmented. You have international and T20 franchise cricket, and even international cricket itself is divided in 3 formats. As you might have seen, not all people like all 3 formats equally.

People's interests have divided and diversified far too much, so there's no singular fan base which creates group pride. Unlike football, cricket is too fragmented in formats but also limited by teams. All these points accumulate and you see the decline in interest for cricket amongst Pakistanis (and other teams too, West Indies even more so).
 
Kids are more concerned about getting most likes on their profile picture on Facebook or Twitter these days in Pakistan. They use social websites but actually, they don't like socializing.

Parents too have a role in it. Most of them want their kids to be Engineer or Doctor. In their view, there is no scope of sports for their kids.

Society too have some role in it. Boys in Pakistan, now a days, are too concerned about their skin color. Because many people don't like dark complexion in Pakistan. So, that is why boys try to stay in their home even during summer vacations.
These points are quite valid.
 
Also the lack of international cricket in Pakistan is an issue, together with the lack of high profile and world-class cricketers from Pakistan.
 
Uhmmm not really. Pak as a country can only win ans compete in 1 sport and that is cricket. Its just the fanatsy and agenda of certain posters to pretend as if cricket has no future. Just look at the PSL. In 2 seasons only its 1 of the biggest things in PAK.
 
Uhmmm not really. Pak as a country can only win ans compete in 1 sport and that is cricket. Its just the fanatsy and agenda of certain posters to pretend as if cricket has no future. Just look at the PSL. In 2 seasons only its 1 of the biggest things in PAK.

Declining interest doesn't mean cricket has no future. Interests go up and down over time.
 
Most of these arguments are applicable to the UK as well football >>>>>> Cricket and they have home matches superish stars but declining. Think its more to do with 90 min game vs 5 day matches. T20’s are important for this reason at least
 
Cricket around the world is fading.

spot on.

The farce that is test cricket is to blame. Bad display of cricket, it just doesnt belong anymore in this modern era,

It will pick back up when t20s take over, kids will come out in droves.
 
Now a days we school students dont have time.Studies are a big issue.While the interest of football is increasing while cricket is decreasing but we dont have a future in football we dont have a football federation as it is going to be banned by FIFA due to political interference.This credit goes to these 3rd class sports teachers in school who are not letting people play cricket.Same goes for my school we are not allowed to play cricket but we are allowed to play football
 
Now a days we school students dont have time.Studies are a big issue.While the interest of football is increasing while cricket is decreasing but we dont have a future in football we dont have a football federation as it is going to be banned by FIFA due to political interference.This credit goes to these 3rd class sports teachers in school who are not letting people play cricket.Same goes for my school we are not allowed to play cricket but we are allowed to play football

Its not just teachers. New kids kinda think of football as a cool sports while cricket is for the old paindus (like us :D)
 
Also the lack of international cricket in Pakistan is an issue, together with the lack of high profile and world-class cricketers from Pakistan.

Thats one thing I would like to observer. That how nation responds to high profile players and games being Playing in Pakistan. Empty seats there would mean that cricket has faded in Pakistan.
 
[MENTION=145660]maxamax[/MENTION] India hasn't seen decline because cricket is still profitable investment for BCCI and IPL teams. However teams that have been hurt financially or other reasons (West Indies, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe) has seen fan interests decline. There's also a key point that cricket isn't a global sport like soccer, the competition is limited and some people get tired of seeing the same teams play again and again. Also cricket is very much fragmented. You have international and T20 franchise cricket, and even international cricket itself is divided in 3 formats. As you might have seen, not all people like all 3 formats equally.

People's interests have divided and diversified far too much, so there's no singular fan base which creates group pride. Unlike football, cricket is too fragmented in formats but also limited by teams. All these points accumulate and you see the decline in interest for cricket amongst Pakistanis (and other teams too, West Indies even more so).

Never saw anyone liking test cricket in Pakistan :D
 
Thats one thing I would like to observer. That how nation responds to high profile players and games being Playing in Pakistan. Empty seats there would mean that cricket has faded in Pakistan.

Yes good point, let's see.

I still feel that the current generation in Pakistan is the T20 generation and even if Tests are played in Pakistan I'm not sure that there will be big crowds.
 
Yes good point, let's see.

I still feel that the current generation in Pakistan is the T20 generation and even if Tests are played in Pakistan I'm not sure that there will be big crowds.
test cricket wont be around in 2050 for sure, people simply cannot afford to spend hours watching on tv or in the ground.
 
Social media, electronic media and overly sensitive parents are to be blamed. Its not just cricket but i think other sports too.
 
Also the lack of international cricket in Pakistan is an issue, together with the lack of high profile and world-class cricketers from Pakistan.

That is exactly the problem with our so-called fans and culture.

We have Babar Azam who averages 50+ in BOTH ODI's and T20's but is not considered a "star" due to his low profile yet we idolize the likes of Afridi and Akhtar who were both mediocre for the vast majority of their careers.

I'd say good riddance to "superstars" and hope we produce more good, consistent cricketers like Shehzad, Babar, Haris, Fakhar, Hassan Ali etc.
 
Cricket in the subcontinent is still popular but around the world the interest levels are fading.
 
test cricket wont be around in 2050 for sure, people simply cannot afford to spend hours watching on tv or in the ground.

I hope you are wrong.

For me, there is nothing quite like Test cricket, but sadly a lot of fans these days want the quickfire 20 over version.
 
That is exactly the problem with our so-called fans and culture.

We have Babar Azam who averages 50+ in BOTH ODI's and T20's but is not considered a "star" due to his low profile yet we idolize the likes of Afridi and Akhtar who were both mediocre for the vast majority of their careers.

I'd say good riddance to "superstars" and hope we produce more good, consistent cricketers like Shehzad, Babar, Haris, Fakhar, Hassan Ali etc.

Why did you chuck in shehzad in there? he is as mediocre as they come.

Fakhar is very new and can easily go down jamshed path.
 
There is good interest in 25+ age guys but now a days 5-6 years old kids are always playing football it means we will become a minnow until 2030 and I don't see cricket surviving until 2040.According to a survey in India football will take over India until 2025 due to their teams good run in international football and due to their league ISL rising fame and even in Pakistan cricket demand is decreasing seriously.Only 13-14 nations play cricket in teams like USA Canada mostly Asian origin players are playing so that is an alarming sign.ICC is not interested about globalizing Cricket which is a huge setback.
 
Nobody is this much free to watch cricket match which is lasting 9 hours every day for 5 days whereas football match consists of 90 minutes
 
There is good interest in 25+ age guys but now a days 5-6 years old kids are always playing football

Living in Islamabad I have always played football throughout my life and seen majority of the kids and teenagers playing it. After fsc I have rarely played cricket (though a big fan of watching) thats why my poor technical knowledge too. From 2007 on-wards, cricket was played lesser and lesser and that had to with our mediocrity too.

But from my experience, In Karachi and Lahore it was different. Whenever i visited these places, I saw cricket was being played more than football.
 
Interest in football is increasing but for various reasons Pakistan will never be competitive on the world stage. If you're a kid who's superstar at sports at your Pakistani school you're still going to choose to pursue cricket over anything else and it'll be the Hassan's and Amir's who'll be their heroes.
 
There were still many empty seats. Either security is scaring masses away from watching the game or there's a considerable decline in interest of people here.
 
Interest in football is increasing but for various reasons Pakistan will never be competitive on the world stage. If you're a kid who's superstar at sports at your Pakistani school you're still going to choose to pursue cricket over anything else and it'll be the Hassan's and Amir's who'll be their heroes.

Its all about having a single Imran Khan sort of figure in football and everyone will get a hero to follow. I dont expect whole team to rise but one good player is enough to ignite a spark.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION]

I don't think so. May be what happened that in last few years teams' performance, lack of icon figures and the brand of cricket Misbah, Azhar's team played took it's toll. Overall, I don't think IND/PAK people can ever get out of cricket - one reason is that in modern world we (South Asians with 1.7bn population) have only one sports to somewhat compete at top level, mainly because only 10-12 teams seriously play this game, half of them from 3rd world ...... FIFA tried their best hosting U17 WC in India ..... they finished 24th out of 24 as host with -8 GD (1 for, 9 against in 3 games), this actually indicates that we hardly have any escape from cricket in near future (that near could be close to a century).

Besides, for subcontinent crowd, IND-PAK clash is extremely important to keep mass people engaged - in last few years BCCI has successfully replaced PAK with AUS, SAF, ENG as the main rivals; somewhat BCB has created own brands (hardly many BD people bothers about what IND-PAK doing, even own team don't do well, they'll spend time criticizing own players rather than cheering for neighbors) - PCB has made it regular practice few times every to request, beg, threat ... finally calling police to make IND play, which isn't happening. I am sure, still cricket is by far the most popular pass time (not only in sports) in PAK and it has great future even in domestics, if marketed properly.
 
That is another reality, thanks to money-minded greed of few countries. ICC forgot that along that way that there job is to promote the game NOT to earn more money, its a cricket council not a business.

This! We all know who ruined it for everyone....The entire business model is flawed and Cricket will suffer in the long-run...including in India..but hey who cares because "80% Revenue"... This new model has also made fans believe that a good game = many sixes.

Sad reality...but let just keep chest thumping because "80% revenue".
 
Cricket is the only sport that India/Pakistan are good at and it will not go anywhere.

its the only sport public is interested in even when their teams are at their worst level. When Pakistan was hockey champions there was not much roar from local people, cricket was their attention all the time
 
Cricket is the only sport that India/Pakistan are good at and it will not go anywhere.

India has won gold medals in Shooting, and currently has multiple badminton players, both male and female who are ranked in the top 5. Lots of promising young athletes in multiple sports coming up.
 
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Cricket is the only sport that India/Pakistan are good at and it will not go anywhere.

India is different at the moment because there is so much money in India. This means that sports facilities are developing well. On top of that of the many people who are interested, some are from extremely rich background and thus can make enormous investments in their careers.

India will be world #1 in Badminton very soon. The players who have trained in era with great facilities are complete monsters. Only someone who has played badminton will understood how much standard has improved and just how scary good the players are.

In another 10-15 years India will be good at football. And don't laugh please, India was a very strong country at football in the past. As soon as facilities and training become good and we see the generation that has played with good players and trained by good coaches, everything will change.

What is more, this general region of the world should be witnessing a great economic resurgence soon. As long as Pakistan can control it's terrorism problem and get even a slight improvement in it's corruption problems there will be great improvements (the same is true of Bangladesh).

Additionally, you are even wrong with your prediction that cricket will go nowhere. There is a very large audience for it because at the very minimum, desis like this game for the foreseeable future and with changes coming (more T20) it will be the kind of game that might become popular elswehere also.
 
My relatives in Pakistan seem to be more interested in mobile phones, facebook, sitting around chatting all day and expecting freebies, rather than following cricket.
 
Cricket, talk shows, and nuclear weapons are the only things in Pakistan that are too big to fail


Talks of cricket going hockey's way are exaggerated. It will never get that far, i mean most Pakistani's dont know who Sohail Abbas is. Cricket will never go down that far
 
Yeah it's getting kinda boring with all the winning we have been doing recently
 
Cricket, talk shows, and nuclear weapons are the only things in Pakistan that are too big to fail


Talks of cricket going hockey's way are exaggerated. It will never get that far, i mean most Pakistani's dont know who Sohail Abbas is. Cricket will never go down that far

That's incorrect. Sohail Abbas is the last hockey player most Pakistanis can easily identify and say they know who he is in. The players that came after him, not so much.
 
That's incorrect. Sohail Abbas is the last hockey player most Pakistanis can easily identify and say they know who he is in. The players that came after him, not so much.

ask people on the street, i reckon no more than 50% will know who he is
 
We now have social media, netflix and video games (ps4, xbox 1 etc). Sports might be popular as a physical activity but as entertainment media it has shrunk a lot.

Virat Kohli might be famous in India but no young generation fan will idolize him. Idolizing superstars has already died. Not just for cricket but for movies too. Internet has exposed all the saints. Nobody is perfect and nobody will receive unconditional love and adulation anymore.

Oh no sir, you haven't seen Imran Khan supporters then, there is nothing stopping his supporters from believing in him. Actually Idolizing has gone up even more than social media is around, one like or comment or a reply from your favorite superstar will make you dedicate their whole life to the cause of supporting their hero.

Have you seen the number of users with virat-ian or imran-ian attached to their names, you should search them up you will be surprised.
 
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Oh no sir, you haven't seen Imran Khan supporters then, there is nothing stopping his supporters from believing in him. Actually Idolizing has gone up even more than social media is around, one like or comment or a reply from your favorite superstar will make you dedicate their whole life to the cause of supporting their hero.

Have you seen the number of users with virat-ian or imran-ian attached to their names, you should search them up you will be surprised.

I can assure you at least 70% of those [insert_name]-ian accounts are:

1) Automated Bots
2) Paid accounts managed by PR firms.

This is done by every celebrity these days or by their managers who want to garner following for their clients so that they may get sponsors, merchandise deals etc, In case of Imran it's the objective of such accounts to provide political awareness among the masses in line with whatever manifesto they may be promoting.

Any sane person with a functioning cerebral cortex would never take such bots and paid accounts seriously and this is coming from a guy who's essentially been an Imran follower since 2002 (practically ever since I developed any capacity to follow a political discourse).

My family all voted for him back in the 2002 general elections (We voted for him again in 2013 - including me) & have been his staunch stoppers since 1996, I remember people used to laugh at my parents (late 90s) during political conversations in any gatherings whenever they brought up Imran as the 'solution, but they kept at it and only almost a decade and some years later did people finally see him as a genuine option. I am not in any way trying to glorify that decision here while our support for Imran does not even remotely mean we won't call a spade a spade and not tell it how it should be told.

Imran isn't perfect, neither he is flawless (far from it actually) but what he brings to the table is something Pakistan have never tasted before and i.e. a leader that is NOT CURROPT. I have travelled to a few places in the last half a decade or so and trust me brother, all countries that are celebrating financial stability and progressive policy development have one particular thing in common - Their leaders are as transparent as they come. Countries like Singapore, Japan, Korea, Morocco and New Zealand are what we should strive for and Imran (although maybe not particularly a Nelson Mendela in leadership) is the the need of the hour.

Coming back to the topic of those [insert_name]-ian: As I iterated above 70% of those are either bots and or paid accounts but when you come across a genuine fan or a supporter that isn't a 12 year old (intellectually) he / she will bring facts, figures and objective viewpoints to a discussion rather than contesting a like for like comparison based on 'Player X > Player Y because I say so !' narrative :D

A lot of times while discussing cricket related matters you might hear, people say that 'there are something which metrics cannot show!' - Anybody who uses this analogy I normally stop the conversation right there because as a man of science I FUNDAMENTALLY BELIEVE everything in this entire universe can be broken down mathematically and or otherwise in any form of numerical notation.

It is the inability of the human race to fathom that numerical notation and hence we resort to subjective crap as 'looking good' and 'has so much time' type of nonsense glorification. I am not too sure how many of you guys follow the World Series, NFL or the NBA but the stats, metrics and numerical notations those guys use and utilize in comparing athletes most certainly will put modern day 'cricket analysts' to shame.

The point of this entire 'rant', if you want to call it that :)) is to intellectually box on why such 'botting and paid accounts' work in the Pakistani society pertaining to any discourse. The simple answer to this query is that in our culture the general populace loves to develop uninformed opinions (refer to the human capacity Analogy I described earlier) relating to anything they have a bias for. This applies to cricket, politics, religion, foriegn policy et al and hence bots and paid accounts!

The debate now should steer from why there are people with such accounts to is it wrong for the people that are making these 'bots and paids accounts'? Morally Yes! Legally No! (Unless and until they are spreading disinformation or hate speech). These 'bots and paid accounts' are only tapping into the mindset of the populace and if that is working and driving concensus then so be it.

Among sportsmen the best PR campaign using such a targeted approach that I've personally seen is Shoaib Malik's. I don't do Facebook but I am a avid Twitter user and have been there for nearly 7 years now. In this time frame I have seen Malik going from (almost retiring due to non existent performances) to being the best batman for the country and garnering a mass social media following. How did he do that? Well I just explained above how he did what he did - It also helps that he is Mashallah performing almost every single time we need him to but all I am saying is the use of such a marketing strategy isn't alien and shouldn't be deamonized to put down the support a person has online and or otherwise. Thanks!
 
I sincerely believe that Cricket is merely a Placeholder sport for subcontinent. As all of us grow(hopefully), we will develop our own unique sporting cultures and cricket will not be on top. Just as it happened in UK.
 
I sincerely believe that Cricket is merely a Placeholder sport for subcontinent. As all of us grow(hopefully), we will develop our own unique sporting cultures and cricket will not be on top. Just as it happened in UK.

The amount of prestige a nation can earn by winning a FIFA world cup is unprecedented. I don't understand why desi folks don't take that big of an interest in it. I'm sure if we put our minds to it India Pakistan can easily have top 50 or better teams in the rankings. The population in our one city is more than alot of European countries. Its all about nurturing talent and investing in players. India is doing well with the ISL, but I gather the overwhelming majority of Indians still only prefer cricket.
 
I gather the overwhelming majority of Indians still only prefer cricket.

Oh yes. But hopefully other spots will develop their own audience. Kabbadi has, ISL is slowly growing in non traditional football support areas too.
 
A lack of superstars has been a problem in recent years. Also 2010 fixing episode put many off cricket.

Perhaps that may change with some promising young cricketers showing good signs.
 
India is different at the moment because there is so much money in India. This means that sports facilities are developing well. On top of that of the many people who are interested, some are from extremely rich background and thus can make enormous investments in their careers.

India will be world #1 in Badminton very soon. The players who have trained in era with great facilities are complete monsters. Only someone who has played badminton will understood how much standard has improved and just how scary good the players are.

In another 10-15 years India will be good at football. And don't laugh please, India was a very strong country at football in the past. As soon as facilities and training become good and we see the generation that has played with good players and trained by good coaches, everything will change.

What is more, this general region of the world should be witnessing a great economic resurgence soon. As long as Pakistan can control it's terrorism problem and get even a slight improvement in it's corruption problems there will be great improvements (the same is true of Bangladesh).

Additionally, you are even wrong with your prediction that cricket will go nowhere. There is a very large audience for it because at the very minimum, desis like this game for the foreseeable future and with changes coming (more T20) it will be the kind of game that might become popular elswehere also.

Read my post again please. I said cricket won't go away from india/pak.
 
The amount of prestige a nation can earn by winning a FIFA world cup is unprecedented. I don't understand why desi folks don't take that big of an interest in it. I'm sure if we put our minds to it India Pakistan can easily have top 50 or better teams in the rankings. The population in our one city is more than alot of European countries. Its all about nurturing talent and investing in players. India is doing well with the ISL, but I gather the overwhelming majority of Indians still only prefer cricket.

Because we are yet to have Fazal Mehmood and Imran Khan of football.
 
The fall in crickets popularity

IT seem that crickets popularity has declined heavily over the past few years in Pakistan or am I mistaken?What do you think has been the main reason playing away from home or lack of stars produced?
 
I sincerely believe that Cricket is merely a Placeholder sport for subcontinent. As all of us grow(hopefully), we will develop our own unique sporting cultures and cricket will not be on top. Just as it happened in UK.

I dont think cricket will ever go away from the sub-continent as it has become part of culture now. And I personally dont understand the craze about playing football. It is a overrated sports and is not necessary to play it to have a sporting culture. Americans hardly play football and they have a sporting culture. On top of everything I dont think desis will play a physically challenging sports like football
 
i feel the psl happening in pak has helped cricket in regaining interest as during psl the whole of our school was talking about unlike the previous years where they mostly used to discuss football
 
The return of cricket to Pakistan as well as the emergence of potential superstars such as Babar and Shaheen may bring back some of the interest. Going through that thread about our fast bowlers over the last decade was depressing.
 
A win in England could do wonders for interest in Pakistan cricket
 
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