Is Islam regressive towards adoption?

[Slog]

Apparently an adopted child cannot inherit from parents and the biological nieces and nephews have more of a claim to the parents inheritance.

Similarly, the adopted son will be a na-mehram to the mother and vice versa for the adopted daughter so for strict interpretations they have to do covering in front of each other.

 

[rockyboy2018]

If you take a look at the issue with an objective eye from a distance, it all makes sense. For example, if that child is not adopted, perhaps he or she could be a potential partner of let's say if you are a adopted father, he or she could potentially be a partner of your real son or daugther or even his adopted mother. I have seen people of getting married with older women. For example, my uncle married a woman of 20 years older than him. There is nothing regressive about it. It is all about moral integrity. And issues into like this, of inheritance, it depends a lot on how your will is and there is nothing written on stone, he or she can not be a part of it. At the end of the day, it depends on the owner of the inheritance.
Similarly, you can argue the case for daugthers vs sons when it comes to the portions of the inheritance. I mean, in a country like Pakistan, where only sons are enouraged to get proper education and have the ability to get a foot in the door when the going gets tough. Similarly, if daughters are unmarried and to a large degree , are uneducated, and life is tough going when it comes to dividing the inheritance, they should have more financial security.

Infact I have witnessed other religions and out of other religions, sure not everything makes sense in Islam, is still very much logically intact and makes sense on a lot of issues.

 

[sweep_shot]

An adopted child is not the same as a real child. It is quite simple.

 

[Slog]

An adopted child is not the same as a real child. It is quite simple.

Why? If anything aren’t you doing a service to humanity by adopting a child who would otherwise be going through the orphanage system? For overpopulated countries such as ours isn’t adoption better than having several children?

 

[sweep_shot]

Why? If anything aren’t you doing a service to humanity by adopting a child who would otherwise be going through the orphanage system? For overpopulated countries such as ours isn’t adoption better than having several children?

Adoption is a noble thing to do and I quite love the concept.

But, Islam has certain laws in place when it comes to inheritance. We obviously can't change those laws.

 

[Pakpak]

An adopted child is not the same as a real child. It is quite simple.

One of my friends who tried for a kid for years and failed despite IVF and what not....they adopted a little 1 year old girl from an orphanage. Their lives have changed, I have never seen some people lifted from depression so quickly as them. They spend every second doting on her and giving her the best life. The little girl is thriving now and it's been a few years and all their lives have been transformed.

Tell this to them that it's not a 'real child'

 

[Musakhel]

An adopted child is not the same as a real child. It is quite simple.

Pretty much this, preservation of nasl is important in Islam, I'n Islam you can not adopt a child, but you can foster them.

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

Pretty much this, preservation of nasl is important in Islam, I'n Islam you can not adopt a child, but you can foster them.

An adopted child is not the same as a real child. It is quite simple.

My parents adopted me, I have my fathers name, I share the inheritance with my siblings. Never have I been treated like I was not the same, I grew up with parents and siblings who adored me. I was never considered "not the same" ever in my 25 years of existence. A relationship between a child and a parent is not bound by blood.

 

[miandadrules]

The Pre-Islamic Arabs, also saw no difference between biological and adopted children.

This was continued under early years of Islam. However, this changed once The Prophet Muhammad married Zainab.

Zainab was the ex-wife of The Prophet Muhammad’s adopted Son, Zayd.

The Muslims at the time were troubled by this and then there was a revelation which decreed that an adopted child was not the same as a biological child.

 

[Musakhel]

My parents adopted me, I have my fathers name, I share the inheritance with my siblings. Never have I been treated like I was not the same, I grew up with parents and siblings who adored me. I was never considered "not the same" ever in my 25 years of existence. A relationship between a child and a parent is not bound by blood.

Are you muslim?

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

Are you muslim?

My beliefs are irrelevant. My parents who adopted me and raised me, are Muslims.

 

[Musakhel]

My beliefs are irrelevant. My parents who adopted me and raised me, are Muslims.

Not to come across as rude, but The OP was asking the question in the context of Islam.

 

[Musakhel]

Why? If anything aren’t you doing a service to humanity by adopting a child who would otherwise be going through the orphanage system? For overpopulated countries such as ours isn’t adoption better than having several children?

You can foster them, but you can not give them your name, or any inheritance because they are not your biological children.

 

[BoredFromLifeXi]

[MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] is this true, what's the source?

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

Not to come across as rude, but The OP was asking the question in the context of Islam.

And my parents, are Muslim.

 

[miandadrules]

[MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] is this true, what's the source?

Quran 33:37 is a good place to start.

 

[Kroll]

Apparently an adopted child cannot inherit from parents and the biological nieces and nephews have more of a claim to the parents inheritance.

Similarly, the adopted son will be a na-mehram to the mother and vice versa for the adopted daughter so for strict interpretations they have to do covering in front of each other.

There is a condition in which if the child is under two years old and breast-fed by the adoptive mother, then that child becomes mehram to his adoptive family.

 

[miandadrules]

There is a condition in which if the child is under two years old and breast-fed by the adoptive mother, then that child becomes mehram to his adoptive family.

How is lactation linked to hereditary genetics?

 

[Musakhel]

How is lactation linked to hereditary genetics?

Prohibited to you [for marriage] are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your father's sisters, your mother's sisters, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your [milk] mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your step-daughters under your guardianship [born] of your wives unto whom you have gone in. But if you have not gone in unto them, there is no sin upon you. And [also prohibited are] the wives of your sons who are from your [own] loins, and that you take [in marriage] two sisters simultaneously, except for what has already occurred. Indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful. (4:23)

 

[miandadrules]

Prohibited to you [for marriage] are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your father's sisters, your mother's sisters, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your [milk] mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your step-daughters under your guardianship [born] of your wives unto whom you have gone in. But if you have not gone in unto them, there is no sin upon you. And [also prohibited are] the wives of your sons who are from your [own] loins, and that you take [in marriage] two sisters simultaneously, except for what has already occurred. Indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful. (4:23)

How is lactation linked to hereditary genetics?

I didn’t ask for the ruling. I asked for the rationale. Are the two mutually exclusive?

If you’re going to quote me, at least provide an relevant answer.

 

[Musakhel]

How is lactation linked to hereditary genetics?

I didn’t ask for the ruling. I asked for the rationale. Are the two mutually exclusive?

If you’re going to quote me, at least provide an relevant answer.

It is not, Lactation has nothing to do with hereditary genetics.

 

[miandadrules]

It is not, Lactation has nothing to do with hereditary genetics.

So, what’s the rationale for the ruling?

 

[Musakhel]

So, what’s the rationale for the ruling?

The Child which is breastfed before the age of 30 months, becomes a mahram for the women who breastfeeds him, but he does not acquire the Name of the Husband of the women( if she is married) nor does he have a share in the inheritance.

 

[Nadeemp]

An adopted child is not the same as a real child. It is quite simple.

i have one adopted child. no difference between him and my biological son. you really have to do some mental gymnastics to justify your thoughts on this.

 

[miandadrules]

The Child which is breastfed before the age of 30 months, becomes a mahram for the women who breastfeeds him, but he does not acquire the Name of the Husband of the women( if she is married) nor does he have a share in the inheritance.

Once again you’re not explaining the rationale, you’re just regurgitating the ruling.

How does this act change the relationship?

To put it simply, how does this make any sense?

 

[Musakhel]

Once again you’re not explaining the rationale, you’re just regurgitating the ruling.

How does this act change the relationship?

To put it simply, how does this make any sense?

She does not have to observe hijab in front of him, that is the rationale if you are looking for one.

 

[miandadrules]

She does not have to observe hijab in front of him, that is the rationale if you are looking for one.

That’s not an explanation.

How does breastfeeding suddenly change the dynamic?

How does it have more relevance than a lifetime of raising an adopted child?

 

[Musakhel]

That’s not an explanation.

How does breastfeeding suddenly change the dynamic?

How does it have more relevance than a lifetime of raising an adopted child?

Breastfeeding only affects the Ruling with regards to marriage and the ruling of hijab, it does not change the dynamic of lineage or inheritance.

 

[miandadrules]

Breastfeeding only affects the Ruling with regards to marriage and the ruling of hijab, it does not change the dynamic of lineage or inheritance.

How does that make sense?

 

[Musakhel]

How does that make sense?

It does not have to make sense, It is what Allah and his prophet(SAW) have told us.

 

[Slog]

One of my friends who tried for a kid for years and failed despite IVF and what not....they adopted a little 1 year old girl from an orphanage. Their lives have changed, I have never seen some people lifted from depression so quickly as them. They spend every second doting on her and giving her the best life. The little girl is thriving now and it's been a few years and all their lives have been transformed.

Tell this to them that it's not a 'real child'

Expect the religious people to expect your friend or the wife to do purdah in front of the kid if opposite gender. And they cannot give the child their name

 

[Slog]

There is a condition in which if the child is under two years old and breast-fed by the adoptive mother, then that child becomes mehram to his adoptive family.

Many parents adopt precisely because they cannot have a baby so obviously In This case the mother will not be able to breastfeed.

 

[Slog]

i have one adopted child. no difference between him and my biological son. you really have to do some mental gymnastics to justify your thoughts on this.

Are you muslim? How will you approach him and your wife’s relation when he reaches puberty? Do you expect there to be some changes in behavior as tour would expect with a na mehram l?

 

[Nadeemp]

Are you muslim? How will you approach him and your wife’s relation when he reaches puberty? Do you expect there to be some changes in behavior as tour would expect with a na mehram l?

not muslim. there is zero difference between the two kids.

 

[Nadeemp]

not muslim. there is zero difference between the two kids.

for us both the children are the same and will be treated as the same. not 1 percent of difference

 

[Syed1]

A very close member of my family and their spouse adopted a beautiful newborn baby girl and brought her up as their own. Infact even blood parents do not care for their children as much as they have cared for that girl. Reading the posts of some religious nuts on this thread they are making it seem that adopted children aren't at the same level as blood children.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Adoption is a noble thing to do and I quite love the concept.

But, Islam has certain laws in place when it comes to inheritance. We obviously can't change those laws.

Depends on what interpretation you take of those laws I would have thought. There are various schools of thought and quite a few of them have differing opinions on many subjects. I would be surprised if inheritance law is set in stone for everyone based on one the scripture mentioned so far.

 

[Musakhel]

A very close member of my family and their spouse adopted a beautiful newborn baby girl and brought her up as their own. Infact even blood parents do not care for their children as much as they have cared for that girl. Reading the posts of some religious nuts on this thread they are making it seem that adopted children aren't at the same level as blood children.

OP was asking in the Context of Islam, not your personal experience.

 

[Syed1]

OP was asking in the Context of Islam, not your personal experience.

Who appointed you as an authority on Islam?

 

[Musakhel]

Who appointed you as an authority on Islam?

Maybe if you read the Quran, you wouldn't make such mistakes.

Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. And He has not made your wives whom you declare unlawful your mothers. And he has not made your adopted sons your [true] sons. That is [merely] your saying by your mouths, but Allah says the truth, and He guides to the

way. (33:4)

Call them by [the names of] their fathers; it is more just in the sight of Allah . But if you do not know their fathers - then they are [still] your brothers in religion and those entrusted to you. And there is no blame upon you for that in which you have erred but [only for] what your hearts intended. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful (33:5)​

 

[Syed1]

Maybe if you read the Quran, you wouldn't make such mistakes.

Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. And He has not made your wives whom you declare unlawful your mothers. And he has not made your adopted sons your [true] sons. That is [merely] your saying by your mouths, but Allah says the truth, and He guides to the

way. (33:4)

Call them by [the names of] their fathers; it is more just in the sight of Allah . But if you do not know their fathers - then they are [still] your brothers in religion and those entrusted to you. And there is no blame upon you for that in which you have erred but [only for] what your hearts intended. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful (33:5)​

Our Quran and religion has multitude of instances where the importance of caring for orphans is explicitly mentioned.


In Surah Al-Insaan it is mentioned that caring for orphans will lead to Paradise



Since you seem to have ignored it, I again repeat, who appointed you as an authority on Islam?​

 

[Musakhel]

Our Quran and religion has multitude of instances where the importance of caring for orphans is explicitly mentioned.


In Surah Al-Insaan it is mentioned that caring for orphans will lead to Paradise



Since you seem to have ignored it, I again repeat, who appointed you as an authority on Islam?


Jahil mullahs like you are the filth of the earth.

You completely missed the point, no one is saying to not look after orphans that is a duty on the muslim community, However you can not claim them as your own, that is Clearly mentioned in the Quran.

 

[Slog]

You completely missed the point, no one is saying to not look after orphans that is a duty on the muslim community, However you can not claim them as your own, that is Clearly mentioned in the Quran.

Why not give them a better life and be able to adopt and call them your own.

So is Islam regressive towards adoption? I am not asking the rulings. I’m asking considering your interpretation of rulings do you think it is regressive in this one aspect or at the very least would you say it is not encouraging of adoption?

 

[Musakhel]

Why not give them a better life and be able to adopt and call them your own.

So is Islam regressive towards adoption? I am not asking the rulings. I’m asking considering your interpretation of rulings do you think it is regressive in this one aspect or at the very least would you say it is not encouraging of adoption?

Islam does not allow adoption, You can not call them your own, Allah has clearly said it in the Quran, this is not my interpretation.

Fostering is encouraged in Islam, various verses in the Quran as proof of this.

 

[rockyboy2018]

A very close member of my family and their spouse adopted a beautiful newborn baby girl and brought her up as their own. Infact even blood parents do not care for their children as much as they have cared for that girl. Reading the posts of some religious nuts on this thread they are making it seem that adopted children aren't at the same level as blood children.

One of my classmates was born in Serbia however was adopted by Turkish parents at the age of 6. She knew that her Turkish parents are not her original ones. Btw, whenever she is asked where she is from - she always says she is Turkish and from Turkey even though her facial orientation might not be the same. In Pakistan, parents mass-produce kids and let them grow up on their own. And, if such kids end up becoming useless, they can get a title from the same parents that "you are zero". When it comes to issues like this, we Pakistanis should be the last ones to pass on expert opinions. Apart from matters not related to bribes and cheating, they bring Allah to justify their arguments. Pakistani parents keep fighting on one side and on the other side, keep producing kids in wholesale. There goes our Pakistani parenting.

 

[srh]

not sure what the issue is. 2/3rd of your inheritance is already set for your blood-relative family and relatives, so you can use the remaining 1/3rd of your inheritance for your adopted children. That 1/3rd is at your own discretion.

 

[Slog]

i have one adopted child. no difference between him and my biological son. you really have to do some mental gymnastics to justify your thoughts on this.

If you don’t mind. How did you decide to adopt? How does your extended family see this? It seems you have biological children too so I know you are treating them equally but do you see your parents and siblings treat the adopted child slightly differently? Like I cannot believe that as per Islamic rules your adopted child (of daughter) will have to do purdah with your wife or daughters. Insane!

 

[Slog]

Islam does not allow adoption, You can not call them your own, Allah has clearly said it in the Quran, this is not my interpretation.

So is islam regressive towards adoption?

 

[miandadrules]

So is islam regressive towards adoption?

Regressive would be an understatement.

This is one of the first issues that made me question the faith.

 

[Nadeemp]

If you don’t mind. How did you decide to adopt? How does your extended family see this? It seems you have biological children too so I know you are treating them equally but do you see your parents and siblings treat the adopted child slightly differently? Like I cannot believe that as per Islamic rules your adopted child (of daughter) will have to do purdah with your wife or daughters. Insane!

There is no difference between my adopted son or biological son. NONE. I difference in treatment among my parents and brothers extended family yes. But I don’t care much . Not a Muslim so pardah not an issue

 

[Slog]

There is no difference between my adopted son or biological son. NONE. I difference in treatment among my parents and brothers extended family yes. But I don’t care much . Not a Muslim so pardah not an issue

Then the question doesn’t apply to you in the context of the thread. I assumed earlier you were Muslim cuz Nadeem usually Muslim name lol.

 

[Slog]

Regressive would be an understatement.

This is one of the first issues that made me question the faith.

I may not be the greatest Muslim practise / following rituals wise (and that ‘show’ for some mullahs is all that matters) but I do consider myself to be a strong believer and a person of faith.

And unfortunately this is one of the aspects I have not been able to reconcile at all. I mean there’s a few other things too but for those if you give leeway and stretch the parameters using hypotheticals you can somehow justify them. But for this I don’t see any mental gymnastics even which could justify this.

 

[miandadrules]

I may not be the greatest Muslim practise / following rituals wise (and that ‘show’ for some mullahs is all that matters) but I do consider myself to be a strong believer and a person of faith.

And unfortunately this is one of the aspects I have not been able to reconcile at all. I mean there’s a few other things too but for those if you give leeway and stretch the parameters using hypotheticals you can somehow justify them. But for this I don’t see any mental gymnastics even which could justify this.

I understand.

But I’ve never seen you using religion as justification for prejudice. Which is what is really important.

 

[MenInG]

Be very careful how you state your views on Islam in this thread. No insults on the Prophet (PBUH), his family etc will be allowed.

 

[James]

Adopting a child is a beautiful thing.

 

[Giannis]

Then the question doesn’t apply to you in the context of the thread. I assumed earlier you were Muslim cuz Nadeem usually Muslim name lol.

I think he's ex muslim, he mentioned he's from some big old money family from Karachi and worked at the UN. A lot of people in those circles tend to be irreligious.

 

[Giannis]

So is islam regressive towards adoption?

Regressive depends on how you see it. In Islam you can raise someone as your child and support them morally and financially but they're not you're blood therefore you can not claim to their father, they can't take your name nor are they entitled to your will/estate nor are you to there's. I can give a better explanation latter on, the second part of my comment elaborate why it is (may now be) permissible.

As for regressive it's a subjective term, for example for some people opposing genetic engineering of humans is regressive as any scientific advancement is considered 'progressive' and therefore should be welcomed supported while others may believe genetically modifying humans and creating superhumans is unethical and regressive and is like a form of modern day eugenics. So "progessive" and "regressive" are subjective and are decided by the society you are part of.

 

[Nadeemp]

I think he's ex muslim, he mentioned he's from some big old money family from Karachi and worked at the UN. A lot of people in those circles tend to be irreligious.

From lahore. Dad comes from lower social class and has moved up nicely. Most of my family is prettt religious.

 

[Slog]

Regressive depends on how you see it. In Islam you can raise someone as your child and support them morally and financially but they're not you're blood therefore you can not claim to their father, they can't take your name nor are they entitled to your will/estate nor are you to there's. I can give a better explanation latter on, the second part of my comment elaborate why it is (may now be) permissible.

As for regressive it's a subjective term, for example for some people opposing genetic engineering of humans is regressive as any scientific advancement is considered 'progressive' and therefore should be welcomed supported while others may believe genetically modifying humans and creating superhumans is unethical and regressive and is like a form of modern day eugenics. So "progessive" and "regressive" are subjective and are decided by the society you are part of.

Your second paragraph has little relation to the first and you are talking about entirely different things.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Who says an adopted child cant be adopted in Islam? Who says the adopted child will be a na-mehram to adopted mother or sister?

Islam does not have a pope. You ask 100 Muslims about Islam you might get a 100 different answers.

There is nothing stopping a parent can make a will and give equal share to an adopted child. If a women feels she will be a na-mehram to an adopted child, than adoption is not a good idea for her.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Who says an adopted child cant be adopted in Islam? Who says the adopted child will be a na-mehram to adopted mother or sister?

Islam does not have a pope. You ask 100 Muslims about Islam you might get a 100 different answers.

There is nothing stopping a parent can make a will and give equal share to an adopted child. If a women feels she will be a na-mehram to an adopted child, than adoption is not a good idea for her.

By your logic, this is just one different answer of one different individual. How do we know which of these answers is the right one, including yours?

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

By your logic, this is just one different answer of one different individual. How do we know which of these answers is the right one, including yours?

There is no right answer. However the OP does not agree with a certain view he read about adoption. So he does not have to follow that view.

 

[CricketCartoons]

There is no right answer. However the OP does not agree with a certain view he read about adoption. So he does not have to follow that view.

There is no right answer is again one opinion out of many. How do we know that there is no right answer? Your logic leads to infinite regression.

 

[Slog]

There is no right answer. However the OP does not agree with a certain view he read about adoption. So he does not have to follow that view.

So I make up the view as I go along?

You just can’t make up views. The view I presented is what is generally accepted by >95% of the ulema who are basing it off Quran and Sunnah. So it’s pretty daft to ask ‘who says’

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

So I make up the view as I go along?

You just can’t make up views. The view I presented is what is generally accepted by >95% of the ulema who are basing it off Quran and Sunnah. So it’s pretty daft to ask ‘who says’

Yes you can. There is a concept in Islam called Ijtihad. You can use your own independent reasoning, without having to consult a Mullah.

Islam in the 21st century does not have to be same as Islam in the 7th century.

 

[Mamoon]

Regressive would be an understatement.

This is one of the first issues that made me question the faith.

I may not be the greatest Muslim practise / following rituals wise (and that ‘show’ for some mullahs is all that matters) but I do consider myself to be a strong believer and a person of faith.

And unfortunately this is one of the aspects I have not been able to reconcile at all. I mean there’s a few other things too but for those if you give leeway and stretch the parameters using hypotheticals you can somehow justify them. But for this I don’t see any mental gymnastics even which could justify this.

Along with completely inhumane treatment of adopted children in light of orthodox Islam, a portion of the inheritance law in Islam is itself very inhumane and cannot be reconciled with mental gymnastics.

If the son dies while the grandfather is alive, the grandchildren (the children of the deceased son) have no claim on the grandfather’s property/assets.

Practically, no grandfather will be cruel and evil enough to leave his grandchildren with no money, but if he is selfish and evil enough to do so and has no love and affection for his grandchildren, he cannot be held accountable in law and he is also not a sinner in the eyes of God because this is what the Islamic law states.

 

[Slog]

Yes you can. There is a concept in Islam called Ijtihad. You can use your own independent reasoning, without having to consult a Mullah.

Islam in the 21st century does not have to be same as Islam in the 7th century.

Aren’t gates of ijtihad closed as per most traditions? Also even for ijtihad not every random person can do it

 

[miandadrules]

Yes you can. There is a concept in Islam called Ijtihad. You can use your own independent reasoning, without having to consult a Mullah.

Islam in the 21st century does not have to be same as Islam in the 7th century.

Foreclosed identity in full effect.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

There isn't really a concept of adoption in Islam, however, the religion stresses the utmost importance of caring for orphans. Caring for orphan children more closely resembles a foster style relationship.

The exception to this is when a child is adopted at an early age and then breastfed by the mother.

As for inheritance while there is no legal mandate a person can do exactly what he wishes with a portion of his wealth. There isn't really an issue there. If someone loves an orphan he has fostered he can set aside some money for the orphan child.

I don't think that these are "regressive" in the slightest but perhaps different to western concept of adoption. Think of it more like a long term foster arrangement.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Aren’t gates of ijtihad closed as per most traditions?

Said who? Per Salafis?

If we look at the subcontinent, Sir Syed was probably the most famous reformer in the modern era. He advocated for a liberal and modern interpretation of Islamic texts which led to mullahs saying he was a Kaafir.

We should not listen to those people who say there can be no more ijtihad. Or that they are right and people who dont agree with them are kaafirs.

Also even for ijtihad not every random person can do it

Of course. But an educated Muslim can.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Foreclosed identity in full effect.

Say what?

 

[miandadrules]

There isn't really a concept of adoption in Islam, however, the religion stresses the utmost importance of caring for orphans. Caring for orphan children more closely resembles a foster style relationship.

The exception to this is when a child is adopted at an early age and then breastfed by the mother.

As for inheritance while there is no legal mandate a person can do exactly what he wishes with a portion of his wealth. There isn't really an issue there. If someone loves an orphan he has fostered he can set aside some money for the orphan child.

I don't think that these are "regressive" in the slightest but perhaps different to western concept of adoption. Think of it more like a long term foster arrangement.

So you feel the pre-Islamic Arabs were wrong in not seeing any difference between biological and adoptive children?

 

[Nadeemp]

There isn't really a concept of adoption in Islam, however, the religion stresses the utmost importance of caring for orphans. Caring for orphan children more closely resembles a foster style relationship.

The exception to this is when a child is adopted at an early age and then breastfed by the mother.

As for inheritance while there is no legal mandate a person can do exactly what he wishes with a portion of his wealth. There isn't really an issue there. If someone loves an orphan he has fostered he can set aside some money for the orphan child.

I don't think that these are "regressive" in the slightest but perhaps different to western concept of adoption. Think of it more like a long term foster arrangement.

I would pick western form of adoption over Islamic concept everyday. You have to do some real mental gymnastics to even hear it out.

 

[Slog]

Fairly good podcast / video on adoption from a Pakistani perspective

https://youtu.be/LRbkK24obb4

 

[Slog]

In Pakistan; adoption is not even a legal process. You cannot adopt a child and have them be your child legally

 

[guna]

Adoption and being a foster parents is a very noble deed. The child may not be biological, but once you bring up a child from a very young age, the emotional bonding does not see that the child is adopted.

Adoption is banned in Islam due to Zaid ibn Harith.

 

[guna]

So what happens to all the parentless children in Pakistan?

 

[Slog]

So what happens to all the parentless children in Pakistan?

Society judges them and the woman is blamed on most occasions.

I mean people ‘adopt’ but legally the kid is not your child. You are just child’s guardian. But the problem here is that Islam’s rules on adorations aren’t really in tune with what would be considered ideal today

 

[guna]

Society judges them and the woman is blamed on most occasions.

I mean people ‘adopt’ but legally the kid is not your child. You are just child’s guardian. But the problem here is that Islam’s rules on adorations aren’t really in tune with what would be considered ideal today

That is tough. Poor kids.

 

[Giannis]

So what happens to all the parentless children in Pakistan?

They adopted by relatives or non-relatives, they're treated like their own kids but they don't have all the rights and responsibilites/restrictions of being biological kids, it's like an uncle adopting a niece