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The scheduling is weird.

If some people in India want to cry about it then i will not say that they are 100%wrong in doing so.
 
Do WTC trophy victories after unfair warm up games count? [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]
 
So the excuses have already started, eh?

The World Test Championship final concept is just not sustainable in the modern world. It will soon get scrapped.
 
gazza619 said:
The World Test Championship final concept is just not sustainable in the modern world. It will soon get scrapped.
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Why would it be scrapped given that ICC has just committed to the event for the next 10 year cycle? They will be contractually obliged to delivering that event to their broadcasters over the next cycle.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kohli pulled no punches on his response to whether English conditions might favour New Zealand &#55357;&#56384;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WTC21?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WTC21</a> <a href="https://t.co/GPCkLwWlp0">pic.twitter.com/GPCkLwWlp0</a></p>— ICC (@ICC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1400130489818783751?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Series was part of the FTP and it happens quite often in cricket where one team is coming into a series with more cricket behind their back than the other team.

Yes this difference gets bit exaggerated now a days with covid lack of warm up matches against home domestic sides. As an example after the covid gap, Pak went into the series against Eng when Eng was better prepared for test cricket after their series against WI.
 
What about the Big 3 getting to host the World Tournament finals or ICC World Cup finals 9 of 10 times?

Is that not an unfair advantage for Big 3? It's important to be a man and accept the situations being put infront rather than whining about it.
 
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Ab Fan said:
What about the Big 3 getting to host the World Tournament finals or ICC World Cup finals 9 of 10 times?

Is that not an unfair advantage for Big 3? It's important to be a man and accept the situations being put infront rather than whining about it.
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Completely agree with you. :inti
 
Babar_Azam_fan said:
People (mostly desis) want to cry at every opportunity, don't they?
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OP(who retired from cricket section on this forum few months ago) has a habit of starting spicy topics on this forum. This excuse will be used by Shastri and company if we lose WTC final. Still a long way to go though. :inti
 
The amount of insight that Kohli has given in that little interview is already much more than what Pakistan XI players combined cannot put together.

Win or lose, India, first under Dhoni and now under Kohli have always played like champions with confidence you can't take that away from their team. There's no ifs, and buts, and safety first defensive ** associated with their team.
 
gazza619 said:
Absolutely, that would make so much sense. But then again who has the time to find almost a month from the calendar?

People/players/board prefer Mickey mouse leagues these days.
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WTC final won't happen every year so it shouldn't be a problem to find a month especially when low quality leagues like IPL keep getting their unofficial window twice per year these days. :inti
 
Titan24 said:
Series was part of the FTP and it happens quite often in cricket where one team is coming into a series with more cricket behind their back than the other team.

Yes this difference gets bit exaggerated now a days with covid lack of warm up matches against home domestic sides. As an example after the covid gap, Pak went into the series against Eng when Eng was better prepared for test cricket after their series against WI.
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No this series is not a part of FTP .its was scheduled in January this year .
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kohli pulled no punches on his response to whether English conditions might favour New Zealand ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WTC21?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WTC21</a> <a href="https://t.co/GPCkLwWlp0">pic.twitter.com/GPCkLwWlp0</a></p>— ICC (@ICC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1400130489818783751?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Did Anyone ask kohli about indias shameful record in england or New zealand on recent tours.
 
Devadwal said:
No this series is not a part of FTP .its was scheduled in January this year .
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Yes, you are right it wasnt part of the FTP cycle schedule issued in 2018. However, NZ was supposed to tour Eng for 3 tests in June 2022, not sure if it still is on or if there has been some change with that series being changed to this one as usually its not the case for any team to tour same country twice in the span of 12 months.
 
Was the venue of the WTC just announced today?
Was New Zealand's tour of England just made yesterday?

So why complain now?
 
India is a better team and will win the test match. If the match was in Lords or Old Trafford, NZ bowlers would have troubled us. But on flat Southampton deck they wont beat us, especially if this heat wave continues.

So they can play as many prior games as possible but India will win the WTC final. Only rain washout can save them. So OP need to relax :)
 
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freelance_cricketer said:
The scheduling is weird.

If some people in India want to cry about it then i will not say that they are 100%wrong in doing so.
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Southampton is dry and will favor spinners, the conditions are going to suit India more than anything.

You might of had an argument if the final was at Lords, but that's not the case. Even then this is like our first tour to England in 3-4 years.
 
India play a 5 match test series in England every 2-3 years, whereas, New Zealand are playing their first series there since 2015. India's players get a better idea of the English conditions in one series than New Zealand's players do in 2 spread over 6 years.

So you know what? Maybe they do deserve a little advantage. And if India were so worried about match practice they could have arranged a few FC matches with the county teams. But India don't care, so neither should you. Kohli has said in the past that he prefers training and nets to playing practice matches.
 
Rajdeep said:
WTC final should be a best-of-three affair in the long run: Ravi Shastri

"I think ideally, in the long run, if they want to pursue this Test championship, a best of three final would be ideal. A three match series as a culmination of two and a half years of cricket," Shastri said in the pre-departure press conference.

https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/c...run-ravi-shastri/amp_articleshow/83174406.cms

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Yikes. I expect some BCCI bigwigs to have words with Shastri about this statement. Under no circumstances should something irrelevant like international cricket get in the way of their IPL and he will be told off for suggesting that the final should take up more of the calendar than it already does.
 
Its an advantage but not unfair as England is the home of cricket , not Bombay.

Lords had to be the host of the first final.

Its been a wet couple of months, if its cloudy, the ball will swing round corners & you may see Indian batting line up skittled for not much. If its dry & hot, Indians can use the spinning pitch on days 3,4&5. Its more than fair.
 
It's an advantage but this tour had been planned for a while so you can't really complain as an Indian fan.
 
India would be worried looking at that performance from NZ.
 
Pakistan had a 5 match ODI series in England against England right before the World Cup, and they learned nothing from it.

Their World Cup campaign crashed & burned in the very first game against the West Indies when they were bundled for 105, a capitulation that nuked Pakistan’s NRR and effectively meant that they were on the brink of elimination in the group stage after the very first game.

The moral of the story is that if you are not good enough, no amount of match practice will help you.

New Zealand are a very good team, but the Indian side is the greatest Asian Test team of all time, capable of Herculean feats especially when they have a point to prove.

After what they achieved in Australia few months back, it will not be wise to bet against them in spite of their perceived weakness against the Dukes ball and the strength of this New Zealand team as well as their relatively better preparation.

The inaugural WTC Final is a historic moment. It is one of the most important games of cricket to be ever played, and it presents a remarkable opportunity for a legendary Test team to further enhance their legacy and set a benchmark for future Asian Test teams - especially future Indian teams since the other Asian teams do not have the ability - that will be very hard to match.

It is a pity that this historic occasions will not be marked at the Home of Cricket, but Team India will be switched-on and ready to give their 100%.

Nevertheless, you need a slice of luck no matter how great you are, and I hope that luck favors India because they deserve it a lot more than New Zealand.
 
Practice or no practice. India stand no chance in England against that bowling attack.They are far superior than Indian trundlers and Indian batting always buckle in these conditions.
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan had a 5 match ODI series in England against England right before the World Cup, and they learned nothing from it.

Their World Cup campaign crashed & burned in the very first game against the West Indies when they were bundled for 105, a capitulation that nuked Pakistan’s NRR and effectively meant that they were on the brink of elimination in the group stage after the very first game.

The moral of the story is that if you are not good enough, no amount of match practice will help you.

New Zealand are a very good team, but the Indian side is the greatest Asian Test team of all time, capable of Herculean feats especially when they have a point to prove.

After what they achieved in Australia few months back, it will not be wise to bet against them in spite of their perceived weakness against the Dukes ball and the strength of this New Zealand team as well as their relatively better preparation.

The inaugural WTC Final is a historic moment. It is one of the most important games of cricket to be ever played, and it presents a remarkable opportunity for a legendary Test team to further enhance their legacy and set a benchmark for future Asian Test teams - especially future Indian teams since the other Asian teams do not have the ability - that will be very hard to match.

It is a pity that this historic occasions will not be marked at the Home of Cricket, but Team India will be switched-on and ready to give their 100%.

Nevertheless, you need a slice of luck no matter how great you are, and I hope that luck favors India because they deserve it a lot more than New Zealand.
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You know how call it luck when Pakistan won the CT17?

Well in this World Cup that five matche series did help.
We beat England, New Zealand, South Africa, Bangladesh & Afghanistan and we competitive until the last 8-10 overs against the Aussies.

But at the end of the say we got unlucky with the weather against Sri Lanka.

So let's call it bad luck.
 
IMMY69 said:
You know how call it luck when Pakistan won the CT17?

Well in this World Cup that five matche series did help.
We beat England, New Zealand, South Africa, Bangladesh & Afghanistan and we competitive until the last 8-10 overs against the Aussies.

But at the end of the say we got unlucky with the weather against Sri Lanka.

So let's call it bad luck.
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If Pakistan and Sri Lanka could beat England, if Afghanistan could push India to the last over and only lose to Pakistan because of umpiring blunders, if West Indies could crash Pakistan for 105 and chase the target in 13 overs, if South Africa could beat Australia after losing to Pakistan and Bangladesh, then Sri Lanka could have also beaten Pakistan.

Both Sri Lanka and Pakistan were average teams, and that game could have gone either way. Moreover,, we should not forget that India vs New Zealand group game was also washed-out and if New Zealand would have won that match, Pakistan would have been eliminated even if they would have defeated Sri Lanka. It is important to remember that New Zealand beat India in both the warm-up and the semifinal, and they could have beaten them in the group as well.

Based on the completed matches, Pakistan did not deserve to qualify for the semifinals because they had an embarrassing NRR. The third worst NRR in the World Cup. In order to compensate for the humiliation against West Indies in the opener, Pakistan need to win at least two of its three matches against the three best teams in the world (England, India, Australia).

However, fortunately or unfortunately, depending on which side you are one, Pakistan got pounded against India, choked against Australia and that fluke win against England was not enough to turn things around.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Hopefully the venue of the WTC final changes every cycle and is not in England all the time.
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Yeah, that's what my biggest gripe is. Why choose England as venue for final for WTC? Any special reasons?
 
MP2011 said:
Yeah, that's what my biggest gripe is. Why choose England as venue for final for WTC? Any special reasons?
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Well England is the home of cricket. It hosted the first World Cup and it fair to give them hosting rights for the first WTC Final as well to respect a historic tradition.

The likes of India and Australia will also host the WTC Final in the future, although I highly doubt that the other countries will get a chance in the near future.
 
Mamoon said:
Well England is the home of cricket. It hosted the first World Cup and it fair to give them hosting rights for the first WTC Final as well to respect a historic tradition.

The likes of India and Australia will also host the WTC Final in the future, although I highly doubt that the other countries will get a chance in the near future.
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Great logic!

Since they hosted the first ODI WC, they should host first WTC final as well!

That was close to half a century earlier when they were probably justified in hosting first ODI WC, not any longer.

For starters, England isn't the most dominant test cricket playing nation, they aren't one of the finalists, they are not dominant neither from cricket administration nor from commercial point of view.

Then how come they got the rights to host to WTC finals? Because they are called home of cricket by some?
 
MP2011 said:
Yeah, that's what my biggest gripe is. Why choose England as venue for final for WTC? Any special reasons?
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Well it fits the calendar perfectly doesn't it?

WTC cut off ends in April and we'll have a month of build up (and of course the IPL) with the final in June. And which is the best venue to host Test match cricket in June? There we have it...
 
But I do hope they make a few tweaks to the scheduling in the future. MCG , Wankhede , Wanderers and the Kensington Oval etc all deserve to host the final.
 
Mesozoic said:
Well it fits the calendar perfectly doesn't it?

WTC cut off ends in April and we'll have a month of build up (and of course the IPL) with the final in June. And which is the best venue to host Test match cricket in June? There we have it...
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So may be the whole WTC scheduling was done to suit England's cricket calendar!
 
Mesozoic said:
But I do hope they make a few tweaks to the scheduling in the future. MCG , Wankhede , Wanderers and the Kensington Oval etc all deserve to host the final.
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Agree with this.

Eden Gardens as well.
 
MP2011 said:
Great logic!

Since they hosted the first ODI WC, they should host first WTC final as well!

That was close to half a century earlier when they were probably justified in hosting first ODI WC, not any longer.

For starters, England isn't the most dominant test cricket playing nation, they aren't one of the finalists, they are not dominant neither from cricket administration nor from commercial point of view.

Then how come they got the rights to host to WTC finals? Because they are called home of cricket by some?
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England will always be the home of cricket irrespective of whether their team is dominant or not at a point in time. Moreover, Lord’s will always be a venue of immense importance, significance and prestige in the game of cricket.

It was only fitting that Lord’s would commemorate the historic occasion of the first WTC final.

Unfortunately, the change in venue did take the sheen off a bit.

Nevertheless, from a sporting perspective, it is better that the final is not in India because it would not have been competitive.

The current India is the greatest Asian Test team of all time, and they would have massacred any side in the final in India.

England is probably the most neutral venue in Test cricket and this is why England enjoys relatively little home advantage compared to other sides.

Their pitches offer everything so there is something for every team, plus the unpredictable weather also plays a role in influence the direction of the game.

I really don’t see why anyone should have any problem with England hosting the final. Moreover, it also suitable from scheduling point of view.

The English summer falls in the middle of the year and most other teams, at least the major ones, have already completed their home season or will start in a few months, so England seems like an appropriate venue to host a one-off match at a point where the other major sides are not playing Test cricket.
 
MP2011 said:
Yeah, that's what my biggest gripe is. Why choose England as venue for final for WTC? Any special reasons?
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Also, no matter who the host was, this question could have been raised. Hence it is a pointless debate. Someone had to get the hosting rights.
 
MP2011 said:
Yeah, that's what my biggest gripe is. Why choose England as venue for final for WTC? Any special reasons?
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Yeah I think the final should be played in one of the finalists' home venues. No point playing in a neutral venue because it should be an occasion for the fans of the finalists to celebrate.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Yeah I think the final should be played in one of the finalists' home venues. No point playing in a neutral venue because it should be an occasion for the fans of the finalists to celebrate.
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True.

England fans have no reason to relate to this WTC final, apart from it being test cricket. However that also takes backseat considering that not many fans will be allowed at the final venue.
 
Make it a best of 3 in future

1 test in each of the finalists home ground

Whoever has the higher ICC ranking gets to host the 3rd test if it even gets to that!!!



Or a best of 2 even because even a draw has it's special place in test cricket.

Don't think a clear winner should be a necessity for WTC like it is for ODIs
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
Yeah I think the final should be played in one of the finalists' home venues. No point playing in a neutral venue because it should be an occasion for the fans of the finalists to celebrate.
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That will mean everyone will have to be ready for organizing since it won't be known beforehand.
It is similar to ODI world cups wherein finalist is not always a host.
 
BaankeJi said:
That will mean everyone will have to be ready for organizing since it won't be known beforehand.
It is similar to ODI world cups wherein finalist is not always a host.
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In this case, both finalists were known at least 4 months in advance. Good enough time period imo.

Also, it's not same as an ODI WC which is far more condition independent than say a WTC.
 
Looolll. Indian fans crying that world cricket is stacked against them & might world minnows NZ have an unfair advantage. India who bullies everyone financially. Who has prejudicial policies against Pakistan. Who are untouchable in the Match Review committee. Who impose the IPL & will steal your best players from a Test series to play in it.

Bwahaha. Quality posting.
 
Gor all the sacrifices made, and everything that India/Indians have done for the game of Cricket, they have every right to cry about things.
 
NZ heading into the WTC final having played two quality test matches against England.

India heading into the final having played amongst themselves in practive games lol
 
Mesozoic said:
But I do hope they make a few tweaks to the scheduling in the future. MCG , Wankhede , Wanderers and the Kensington Oval etc all deserve to host the final.
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It should be held in Dubai only which is the home of cricket (ICC).
 
Tendulkar questions timing of England-New Zealand Test series; says it could've happened after WTC final
Sachin Tendulkar feels New Zealand hold advantage going into the WTC final.


Sachin Tendulkar said in a conversation with the Times of India, “There is no doubt that New Zealand has a slight advantage because of this, because they have played two Tests against England. Whereas the Indian team has played a practice match with itself.” However, the former India captain believes that Virat Kohli’s team will be ready, as everyone in the team has already played some cricket in England. Which includes India A. He said, “That is a good thing. Our players have played in different teams in England before. In such a situation, he is not completely aware of the conditions there.


The veteran batsman has also expressed regret over the ICC’s decision to go ahead with the recently concluded England vs New Zealand Test series. Kane Williamson’s team has won this series 1-0. Tendulkar said the two-match Test series should have been played after the ICC WTC final as it was not contributing to the World Test Championship points table. In such a situation, New Zealand got some advantage in terms of preparations going ahead of the England Test series. He said, “I do not know when the New Zealand vs England series was decided. I believe this was already fixed. Before New Zealand made it to the final. Maybe it’s a coincidence. The England vs New Zealand series was not going to contribute to the WTC final. So the final of the World Championship could have been played first, then this series.” The Master Blaster feels that unlike the 50-over or T20 World Cup, the WTC lacks consistency, at least for now. .


Sachin Tendulkar said, “There have been a lot of breaks due to the pandemic and other challenges in its wake. Due to which the enthusiasm of the final is missing. When a tournament goes on without a break – like a 50-over WC or a T20 WC, there is a consistency in it. There is a build-up to these tournaments, which is missing in the World Test Championship.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/icc-world-test-championship/england-new-zealand-series-couldve-been-held-after-the-wtc-final-sachin-tendulkar/articleshow/83531305.cms
 
English still own cricket. That's why final is in England. No other logical reason.
 
NZ couldnt have asked for a better scenario to play India in England with no practice - Shane Bond

Former New Zealand pacer Shane Bond has said that the Black Caps couldn’t have asked for a better scenario to take on India in the World Test Championship final. New Zealand headed into the inaugural WTC Final on the back of a 1-0 Test series win over England whereas India prepared for the final with an intra-squad stimulation match.

Bond backed New Zealand to wipe off the hard-luck factor in the WTC Final and get the better of India to lift the Mace.

"We couldn't have asked for a better scenario to play India in England with no practice. Us coming off two Test matches. We are primed to win something," said Bond on the TOI Sportscast.

"So I am hoping that some of the hard-luck stories that we have had in the last couple of World Cups, we will flip the script this time and lift up that mace and be the champions, which will be pretty special, pretty cool for our sport over here, because cricket is the number two sport in the country and for us to achieve that (win WTC Final) will be fantastic," he further said.

https://www.wionews.com/sports/cric...tter-scenario-against-india-shane-bond-392749
 
Some fans who are crying over lack of practice for Indian team are the same ones who had no problem in IPL finishing on 30th May. You won't get better hypocrites than these. :inti
 
I don't mind wtc played in New Zealand at this time. Fans want to watch cricket and not rain and puddles. Horrendous scheduling
 
Rajdeep said:
NZ couldnt have asked for a better scenario to play India in England with no practice - Shane Bond

Former New Zealand pacer Shane Bond has said that the Black Caps couldn’t have asked for a better scenario to take on India in the World Test Championship final. New Zealand headed into the inaugural WTC Final on the back of a 1-0 Test series win over England whereas India prepared for the final with an intra-squad stimulation match.

Bond backed New Zealand to wipe off the hard-luck factor in the WTC Final and get the better of India to lift the Mace.

"We couldn't have asked for a better scenario to play India in England with no practice. Us coming off two Test matches. We are primed to win something," said Bond on the TOI Sportscast.

"So I am hoping that some of the hard-luck stories that we have had in the last couple of World Cups, we will flip the script this time and lift up that mace and be the champions, which will be pretty special, pretty cool for our sport over here, because cricket is the number two sport in the country and for us to achieve that (win WTC Final) will be fantastic," he further said.

https://www.wionews.com/sports/cric...tter-scenario-against-india-shane-bond-392749
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Best conditions for NZ for sure, but useless match irrespective of results. So much rain and teams batting at 2 runs per over.
 
JattMaula said:
English still own cricket. That's why final is in England. No other logical reason.
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It may also be to do with the best cricketing facilities on the planet, a huge broadcast deal with Sky and the fact that the final was actually supposed to be held at Lords, you may have heard of it, it is known as the home of cricket.

Stop whinging, honestly.
 
This was New Zealand's golden chance to win an ICC tournament but their intentless batting has ensured that it will be a drawn test and they will still remain in the shadow of the Big 3.

India will eventually win a WTC or any other world tournament multiple times in next 5-6 years but NZ might have to wait for several more years.

This is the difference between a team like Pakistan or West Indies and New Zealand. Pakistan and Windies make it count after getting this close while New Zealand remain second.
 
Ab Fan said:
This was New Zealand's golden chance to win an ICC tournament but their intentless batting has ensured that it will be a drawn test and they will still remain in the shadow of the Big 3.

India will eventually win a WTC or any other world tournament multiple times in next 5-6 years but NZ might have to wait for several more years.

This is the difference between a team like Pakistan or West Indies and New Zealand. Pakistan and Windies make it count after getting this close while New Zealand remain second.
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Not sure what you've been watching but NZ have a great test side, arguably their greatest ever. NZ will win this match if rain doesnt put an early end to it. NZ will likely get a 50+ lead and skittle the Indians out for less than 200, chase it down with ease.
 
India played a long tour of Australia right before WC15 and I am pretty sure none of the people that are voicing their opinion about scheduling problems had any concerns then. It is only when random things work against you is when they start shouting how the whole world and ICC is against us!

Things like this work in our favor sometimes and could work against you from time to time as well. Instead of playing the victim card, just learn to roll with the punches with the right attitude. That is exactly what Kohli is trying to convey in his answers as well. But people that love to cry will cry at every reason they find.
 
So NZ won and we have all congratulated...that is all good. But will no one talk about the added advantage NZ team got just before the finals i.e playing 2 unscheduled test matches on the host country.

Imagine if India got such advantage...we would been crying about ICC making life easy for Indian team. Some fans would have attached an asterick on the win as well.
 
Rajdeep said:
So NZ won and we have all congratulated...that is all good. But will no one talk about the added advantage NZ team got just before the finals i.e playing 2 unscheduled test matches on the host country.

Imagine if India got such advantage...we would been crying about ICC making life easy for Indian team. Some fans would have attached an asterick on the win as well.
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Was probably one of the reasons India fared poorly as India are traditionally slow starters.
 
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OMB said:
Was probably one of the reasons India fared poorly as India are traditionally slow starters.
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One can make up a thousand reasons as to why India lost.The result was that New Zealand won the final fairly and squarely.
 
So what about T20 WC starting days after IPL ending, will that be advantage for India first and foremost and then some of the other countries?
 
IAJ said:
So what about T20 WC starting days after IPL ending, will that be advantage for India first and foremost and then some of the other countries?
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Its bit of a chalk and cheese comparison, isnt it? WT20 is a whole tournament where as WTC Finals is just 1 game. In a tournament even if you start slowly, you get aclamatized as things start moving. But playing 2 matches prior to a one off match is a massive advantage.

Basically NZ got to play 3 test matches to lift the WTC mace where as India only got 1 shot. Thats unfair but only because it was against India, we are not bothered.
 
Not Indians making excuses. Accept ur loss, nothing to be ashamed of.

India played well (over the years) and easily one of the top three teams (all formats).
 
Indians can cry all they want but they were thrashed badly by New Zealand.India just can't win in England.They will lose their next series against England for sure.I don't see them winning a single test.
 
Artaxerxes said:
One can make up a thousand reasons as to why India lost.The result was that New Zealand won the final fairly and squarely.
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Who is disputing that? All congratulations to the NZ team and their fans. The mace is theirs deservedly.

No one is making up a thousand reasons. Just a true observation, that India was unprepared whereas NZ were ready. One NZ player said the same before the match. so no dispute
 
'India were hard done by that way': England legend Alastair Cook on factor that determined WTC final

India were playing a Test match after a gap of more than three months. The only red-ball practice they had was the intra-squad simulation they played ahead of the WTC final, which Cook said doesn’t have the same intensity of a Test match.

Former England captain Alastair Cook said India were hard done by for not getting match-practice ahead of the World Test Championship final like their opponents and eventual winners of the WTC New Zealand.

Cook said New Zealand were better prepared as they played two Tests against England barely a week before the WTC final in Southampton.

"I did say New Zealand were going to win that game purely down to the fact that they were match-hardened. Those two Test matches against England were such perfect preparation,” Cook said on the BBC's Tuffer and Vaughan Podcast.

India, on the other hand, were playing a Test match after a gap of more than three months. The only red-ball practice they had was the intra-squad simulation they played ahead of the WTC final, which Cook said doesn’t have the same intensity of a Test match.

“Intra-squad games, as good as your intention might be, it hasn't got the same intensity. First hour might be really competitive but everything goes less and less and less. India were hard done by that way," Cook added.

The Indian batsmen looked underprepared in front of the New Zealand seamers. They were bowled out for 217 in the first innings and fared even worse in the second innings when they were all out for 170.

Another factor, that played a key role in deciding the outcome of the WTC final was India’s decision to play two specialist spinners despite knowing the rain forecast throughout the Test match.

Cook said India went ahead of themselves by naming their side a day in advance and then not deciding to change it despite the first day being washed out.

"They (India) got a bit confident in picking that side three days out before (the game) and playing two spinners where they pretty much knew it was going to rain for a lot of that game. So a lot of seam bowling was bowled. Even though their spinners are world-class, they got a little bit ahead of themselves there," he said.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/india-were-hard-done-by-that-way-alastair-cook-on-factor-that-determined-wtc-final-101625132809812.html
 
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Yasir_ch said:
Indians can cry all they want but they were thrashed badly by New Zealand.India just can't win in England.They will lose their next series against England for sure.I don't see them winning a single test.
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With your ability to see the future, can you tell us who will win 2023 ODI World cup, so I can move on to 2027, thanks in advance.
 
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