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Is it time to say farewell to Mohammad Hafeez?

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The stats on the Australia tour are shocking and the Professor would be the first one to acknowledge that but the bigger question is whether he has now crossed that thin red line where he has become unselectable and should be discarded for good?

His stats on the Australia tour : 0 wickets for 195 and a batting average of 24....:hafeez2
 
Yes he should be discarded for good, I don't understand what we achieved in selecting a 36 year old who has always been rubbish outside of Asia. In modern day LO cricket you can't afford to have players like Azhar,Malik ,Shafiq,Hafeez all in the same line up.
 
Please throw him out. We will receive a thrashing at the champions trophy also if people like him play.
 
But of course.
Malik and his best performance came in a match (a) chasing 200 odd (b) he was dropped first ball.
 
It's funny when MIG bhai uses this smiley: :hafeez2

And yes there is no turning back in Hafeez's career. Should voluntarily hang up his boots.
 
Although a good work out in PSL 2017 will see him back in the squad for WI series
 
We can't afford to have Azhar , Malik , Hafeez and Rizwam in playing 11. All are very limited in their short selection. Eveb though we can't totally ignore them as it never happens in Pakistan ( see Umar Akmal ) but we can frame a rotational policy for them .
 
Want to see him in a coaching/managerial capacity in the near future. One of the best cricketing brains in the country.

As a player, I think his time is up. Often undervalued, he has done a good job for Pakistan overall since 2010.
 
Yes please. Into the 14th year of his career and still his standout ability is to... give a catch to the slips.

Don't need him. Or the other seniors.
 
I think he can be utilised down the order as an A/R.

He has been very good with the ball, except the last two games.

He has the intelligence to play as a finisher and do very well.
 
His time was up the moment he got reported for his action and got banned. His only value was as an all rounder. A liability as a specialist batsman in the top order, and with his revised action, not effective. Really don't see what's his short term/long term use. A complete passenger on this tour.
 
His selection after his miserable domestic form was shocking , not his performance in Australia. It was awful and expected.

Yes, he should have been dropped more than year ago

His batting was always bad and he will never be the same bowler after banned twice.
 
Yes it is. Kick him out. He doesn't deserve a farewell series either. Should move onto coaching club/school teams in Punjab.
 
Even though i think hafeez should go, he played better than umar, shoiab malik, aZhar ali, m rizwan, inad wasim... does that mean all if them need to go?
 
Didn't we just say farewell to him in England only to go crawling back to him once he started to bowl?

With the lack of allrounders, he does provide us balance in the team if he is bowling. I'll be interested to see what combination we go with if he is shown the door. Hafeez + Malik do make up a bowler, and whatever Hafeez contributes with the bat is bonus since we do need the extra batsman with our weak batting lineup.
 
Didn't we just say farewell to him in England only to go crawling back to him once he started to bowl?

With the lack of allrounders, he does provide us balance in the team if he is bowling. I'll be interested to see what combination we go with if he is shown the door. Hafeez + Malik do make up a bowler, and whatever Hafeez contributes with the bat is bonus since we do need the extra batsman with our weak batting lineup.

yeah, he provides bowling, but do you really want a bowler who couldn't pick up a single wicket in 39 overs in the series?

I mean, might as well have Sharjeel or Babar bowl... don't think they can do much worse
 
Want to see him in a coaching/managerial capacity in the near future. One of the best cricketing brains in the country.

As a player, I think his time is up. Often undervalued, he has done a good job for Pakistan overall since 2010.

Only because younger/more deserving players were not given an opportunity to play instead of Hafeez.

Had Nasir, Fawad Alam, Haris (pre-2013) were given the same opportunities that Hafeez had - their output would have been atleast the same and probably better.
 
Want to see him in a coaching/managerial capacity in the near future. One of the best cricketing brains in the country.

As a player, I think his time is up. Often undervalued, he has done a good job for Pakistan overall since 2010.

Agree with this. He's not been amazing, but one of our most consistent players sine 2010 which is why he's lasted so long. But time is up, batting is down, and bowling is down too
 
Only because younger/more deserving players were not given an opportunity to play instead of Hafeez.

Had Nasir, Fawad Alam, Haris (pre-2013) were given the same opportunities that Hafeez had - their output would have been atleast the same and probably better.

This is a myth. We tries out so many players in that period. Umar, Jamshed, Shehzad, Maqsood etc. They just couldn't keep their form.

Hafeez never really blocked someone coming into the team. In fact when he could bowl, it allowed us to play an extra batsman.

Recently we've had a few consistent performers in Sarfraz, Babar and now Sharjeel. But in the period after 2010, only Misbah was consistent (and slow) and Haris until he got injured. Hafeez was the best on batting alone after those two until Sarfraz and Babar started performing.
 
Misbah and his gang of oldies Hafeez, Younis, Azhar, Wahab, Malik, Sohail have to be kicked out if we want to progress. Plus, this permanent sifaarshi player Umar Akmal should be immediately sacked along with the selectors who sent him despite failing his fitness test.
 
Hafeez never really blocked someone coming into the team. In fact when he could bowl, it allowed us to play an extra batsman.
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Of course he has blocked the inclusion of a genuine opener because of hafeez we have a totally unsettled batting line up. To hell with his bowling he can't get any wickets without chucking.
 
yeah, he provides bowling, but do you really want a bowler who couldn't pick up a single wicket in 39 overs in the series?

I mean, might as well have Sharjeel or Babar bowl... don't think they can do much worse

I knew this was coming - But it is a stupid question if you saw the first 2 ODIs. His bowling played a valuable role in limiting Australia and potentially setting us up for a 2-0 lead. Apart from those 2 ODIs, even our golden boy Imad wasnt able to achieve much.
 
I knew this was coming - But it is a stupid question if you saw the first 2 ODIs. His bowling played a valuable role in limiting Australia .
yeah that's why Australia scored almost 400. The reason why we lost the series miserably is because of mediocre players like hafeez. Had there been a wicket taking bowler we could have won. You can't limit aggressive teams , you've to take wickets otherwise you end up like this pakistani team.
 
yeah that's why Australia scored almost 400. The reason why we lost the series miserably is because of mediocre players like hafeez. Had there been a wicket taking bowler we could have won. You can't limit aggressive teams , you've to take wickets otherwise you end up like this pakistani team.

Our agressive bowlers Amir, Hasan and Wahab all conceded more runs that Hafeez to get them to 400. We can 5 specialist bowlers but then we wont be able chase 200 even if they bowl well.
 
Nope. I think he's going to be our next captain. Again. Which might not be a bad thing but we're going back to square one.
 
Do it as quick as possible..

Has been a good performer for Asian pitches while being terrible outside it.
 
Our agressive bowlers Amir, Hasan and Wahab all conceded more runs that Hafeez to get them to 400. We can 5 specialist bowlers but then we wont be able chase 200 even if they bowl well.

Just because others didn't perform doesn't excuse Hafeez

The fact is Hafeez didn't have any domestic performance but still got selected. Then he had an awful series taking 0 wickets and averaging 24 with the bat. Add the fact that he is 36 years old with no long term future

There is absolutely no reason that Hafeez should ever play for Pakistan again. None!
 
With regards to his batting average of 24 in the series, he needs to thank Steve Smith for it. In the second match (I believe), Smith dropped him while he was on ZERO, a simple chance that he dropped. And then Hafeez went on to score some 70 odd runs.
 
The only runs he did get were because of his dropped catch in the second match - which worries me because I think that 70 odd may keep him in contention for another series because after all, he is a "senior". As for his bowling, it is safe to say he looks like a part timer despite still chucking the odd ball. In fact, he looks worse than a part timer. Fielding isn't great either as he's on the wrong side of 30's and has always been a poor slip fielder, dropping dollies.
 
Inzamam in his latest press conference has clearly stated that Hafeez is Pakistan's number one all-round option
 
Inzamam in his latest press conference has clearly stated that Hafeez is Pakistan's number one all-round option

What a sad state of affairs...

From producing arguably the best all rounder the world has ever seen through to top worldclass all rounders such as Akram, Razaq, Mehmoud to now being left with Hafeez :(

I know I'm doing Hafeez a disservice as he was a decent all rounder before his bowling problems, BUT he's 36 now and surely someone should have emerged from the ranks by now..preferably a seam bowling all rounder.

Anyway, Hafeez has a good cricketing brain and the only minute reason for retaining him would be if he's captain.
 
Although a good work out in PSL 2017 will see him back in the squad for WI series

I hope not. Why should he be selected based on a good PSL? Are we scared to pick youngsters?
 
Never should have been called up in the 1st place. Time to move on.
 
Things that plague our system are Corruption, Sifarish and a fear of failure.

We'll never move on from TTF's until we get over the above.
 
Yes, he should be dropped permanently. Next world cup is in 2019. There is no point in playing anybody over the age of 34-35.
 
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